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    Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Bloody Nokia Adept, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. soul347

    soul347 Notebook Evangelist

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    That is very strange indeed. If you never edited the registry before, then there should be a LinearityData without the user. I'm quite stumped at this point. Be sure you're finding the correct linearitydata in the right path mentioned above.
     
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    Use EaseUS Todo Backup. It's very simple and fast.

    I changed mine to 1TB SSD so there was no point to keep 16 GB M2 SSD. It is much slower than Samsung Evo 840 Series and drains the battery if you keep it. So I personally think that removing it would be a great idea.

    If you need extra 16GB you can keep it. Some people also will keep it for additional OS. But if you need it for storage in Windows, don't forget to uninstall Lenovo Caching Software from Programs & Features in Control panel because caching to a slower drive would be a crazy idea.


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    Thanks Rabramov.

    I must be daft, but I can´t find the ´Intel Smart Response Technology´ on my TPY. Looked in ´Programs and Features´ & Device Manager. Where to look for it? I also went to Lenovo´s support Download center to find it to download it, but also there I can´t find it.

    Upgrade to SDD, I should have bought it with SDD but I splurged on the i7 w/HDD instead of i5 w/SDD..... But seeing as several people on this forum have had the guts to upgrade to SDD themselves, maybe I should do the same. Via cloning I assume. Just a little worried about warranty issues etc..
     
  4. amirvf

    amirvf Notebook Guru

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    The benchmarks of Samsung SSD that comes with TPY is not good at all. The write speed is much slower compared to New Samsung Evo 840 Series (180 Vs 525 MB/S without Rapid Mode ON & 180 Vs 1070 MB/S with Rapid Mode ON).

    So the best idea is to get HDD and upgrade to SSD. Don't worry. It is very simple and just a piece of cake. I am sure that it does not effect warranty status because it is very simple and does not interfere with any other parts of the laptop. I have done similar upgrades for all my laptops during past 15 years and no warranty issues so far with at least 5 brands and Lenovo won't be an exception.

    If this is the first time for you, read Lenovo instructions in the website carefully or get some help from a friend. I personally did not even look at the instructions and the whole process of cloning and swapping drives didn't not take more than 30-40 minutes. After you do it once, you will never hesitate for such simple upgrades in the future.


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    edzieba Newbie

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    A really odd issue I've just noticed:
    - Mute the laptop (using the FN+F1 shortcut or from the volume menu)
    - Lock the laptop (CTRL+L)
    - Unlock the laptop
    - It will unmute itself after 5 seconds!

    I've yet to find a setting that will stop this from occurring.
     
  6. godofwar424

    godofwar424 Notebook Evangelist

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    Sorry but the write speed on the stock drive is around the 250 region with the read being around the 500 region. Although the Samsung Evo is technically faster, the actual difference will be barely noticeable other then through benchmarks. I have a Corsair Force 3 in my desktop pc which is super slow compared to an Evo and besides the numbers in Crystalmark there was barely any difference with regards to installs or apps opening after the upgrade.

    The only reason to stick an Evo in is if you need more then 256GB, if you don't then its an expensive and relatively unnecessary upgrade. Not to mention the possible recovery issues you and soul had that require a bit of technical know how to fix.

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  7. godofwar424

    godofwar424 Notebook Evangelist

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    Has anybody noticed that the keyboard disables itself if you hold the laptop sideways while in laptop mode??

    Holding it so that the screen is basically portrait but still in laptop mode and the keyboard/trackpad will disable.

    Its a weird thing :s

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  8. isomax89

    isomax89 Newbie

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    Will I check the option :
    Sector by sector clone?
    disk-clone-2.gif
     
  9. magicstop

    magicstop Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes, they do. I just bought my TPY (had it for only 5 or 6 days), and it's already retaining the Start button and the Touch Keyboard buttons. Very annoying and the issue not only hasn't been fixed, but it has yet to be admitted by Lenovo.
     
  10. soul347

    soul347 Notebook Evangelist

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    I used the same software to clone my drive. Click optimize for SSD but DO NOT click sector by sector cloning.
     
  11. soul347

    soul347 Notebook Evangelist

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    You're probably right you won't notice that much of a difference between a slower and a faster SSD. But here are the reasons I wanted to upgrade:

    1. Like you mentioned, one might want more than 256GB. I wanted more because larger SSD's not only have more capacity (which I need) but longer life spans, and tend to have faster read/write speeds. Also take note that SSD's begin to slow down when they are almost filled to capacity. These days people need more storage, and I simply didn't want to keep accessing my files on an external hard drive, and I wanted to keep all of my files on a fast SSD, ready to access even when I'm out of the house.

    2. Lenovo flat out rips you off! Can you imagine they are charging $260 more for a 128GB SSD over the 500GB HDD and they are charging $410 more for a 256GB SSD! You can take the $260 and that will almost pay for a 500GB SSD that is faster, more reliable, has more features, consumes less power for better battery life, etc. all while keeping an HDD for backup. For $410 you can buy yourself a 750GB Samsung 840 Evo on amazon.com! You're basically paying the amount one would pay for a much larger, superior drive.

    3. Should I ever want to sell my computer, I can simply put in the original drive and let the new buyer know it was never used at all, so they can be sure the SSD has many more years left in it. I also won't have to worry about reformatting my drive and the possibility of people gaining access to my sensitive files. (When you reformat your drive, your files are technically still there and can be recovered easily).

    4. It is just flat out fun. I am the "do it yourself" kind of guy that likes to open up gadgets and learn. I can't even begin to tell you how much I've learned about computers by just opening up my machine and dealing with hardware/software issues. I ran into some complications on the way, but the experience and knowledge gained was totally worth it. There is just something so satisfying about upgrading something yourself and having it work smoothly.

    As far as recovery issues are concerned, it was really fun figuring out how to get it to work. Once you have the instructions, it will take you literally 10 minutes or less to get it working again. Chances are someone who is willing to upgrade a drive themselves will have no problem getting the recovery partition active again. I could imagine that the people who buy ThinkPads are usually willing to do these kind of things. But I could totally understand if someone just wants to buy the SSD straight from Lenovo and not deal with any "do it yourself" hassles. To each their own
     
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    I am pretty sure to have found the right item at registry, So, I still stuck because system isn't allowing me to re-calibrate via 273 points...
     
  13. soul347

    soul347 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmm, not sure why it is not working. Are you sure you followed this path in the registry: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\HID

    And when you find the item it already says "UserLinearityData" ? If that is the case, try removing "User" from it and see what happens. If it doesn't do anything or something goes wrong, put "User" back in front of it.
     
  14. hjm

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    Very strange, Lenovo charges on the Europe NL site only $163 (€120) more for a 256GB SSD over the 500GB HDD which seems far more reasonable.
     
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    TP Yoga at home XD
    1. It's normal that the screen bend (1-2 mm) specially between the hinge?
    2. There is a screen protector on the LCD? The feeling is horrible with the touch and the pen.Can i remove it?
     
  16. amirvf

    amirvf Notebook Guru

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    Those were the actual results of benchmark I did with Crystal Disk Mark for both drives before making my final decision. Maybe some configurations such as Rapid Mode change the result but I didn't find such modes in stock SSD and could not get higher speeds. Reviews about SSD performance for Stock SSD in TPY are not also good. I had TPY SSD version only for 2 days before I returned it and the major difference between my current one was noticeable in Windows Boot Up time (10.5 Seconds Vs. 7 Seconds from the Appearance of circles after Lenovo Logo and Windows Log On Menu).

    The price of 840 EVO Series is very reasonable at the moment. If you upgrade yourself you will have a better performance with cheaper price.

    According to Lenovo US Website, TPY with Normal HDD 500 GB & SSD 256 GB have $411 difference in price. Amazon Sells Samsung Evo 840 Series 250 GB for $155. So it's not a good idea to buy SSD version under any circumstances. By self upgrade you will have 3 benefits:
    1. The best available SSD Performance at the market
    2. Additional 500 GB HDD back up
    3. Extra $256 in your pocket


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    Backup (export), then delete all instances of LinearityData and UserLinearityData from the registry manually.
    It's what the reset calibration option should do. (you probably won't need the backups, but better save than sorry)
     
  18. amirvf

    amirvf Notebook Guru

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    Yes. If you put it on exactly at 90 degrees in laptop mode at either sides 2 things happen:
    1. Keyboard/trackpad disables.
    2. Back-lit turns off.

    This issue is very annoying and strange. I couldn't find any solution for that so far.

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  19. amirvf

    amirvf Notebook Guru

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    Only check optimize for SSD.
    Sector by sector takes longer and it not necessary.

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  20. soul347

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    I believe the reason for this is it assumes you are in a tablet mode and they would not expect you to use the keyboard while holding the screen this way
     
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  21. soul347

    soul347 Notebook Evangelist

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    1. Yes that's normal.
    2. Yes there is a screen protector, and I heard some people successfully removed it. I personally like it because it helps significantly with glare and I like how it is smooth on my finger tips vs. the plane shiny glass on most touch devices
     
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    Ok thank's for your help
     
  23. CluelessWithACurtsy

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    In case you were still curious:

    - I've now visited Boot Menu using F12 and found my Samsung SSD happily listed. I was also able to exit using Esc, unlike earlier.

    - I double checked Windows Update and Lenovo Software Update. There was one optional windows 8.1 update I had overlooked previously, and have now installed. Maybe that will do the trick.

    Now it's just a waiting game to see if it happens again...


    Soul, you're a prince for helping everyone here. :)
     
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    I haven't tried your scenario, but I have noticed that every time I un-suspend the laptop, I see the mute light come off. Basically the laptop is muting itself right before it goes to sleep, and unmuting itself after it comes out of sleep.

    I figured it was probably related to the issue other Win8 computers are having with excessive battery drain during sleep because the audio drivers do not allow the computer to sleep. Muting the audio fixes the issue.


    EDIT: I tried it on my machine. If it goes to sleep while it is muted, it stays muted when it comes out. If it goes to sleep unmuted, it will mute when sleeping, and unmute when coming out of sleep.
     
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    It makes me feel a little better to know I'm not the only one. Hopefully it's a sign that our problem is a software issue, and fixable by simple update, and not anything wrong with our individual laptops.

    If it happens again, please let us know... maybe we can figure out a similarity that might have triggered it. But I'll cross my fingers for both of us that it was just a fluke. :)
     
  26. soul347

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    Hope that does the trick. I put my TPYoga to sleep several times throughout the day and haven't experienced the problem yet. But I am always pretty meticulous in keeping all of my drivers and such up to date. If you experience it again, try to figure out what is the common denominator with mr_sarge.

    I've received a lot of help myself, so I'm always happy to help those in need
     
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    A friend of mine just bought a TP Yoga to replace a stolen X-201s and I've been setting it up for her (new drive, software etc.) and I have to say that it's a phenomenal machine and from a hardware perspective the only flaw I can think of is the port selection. One more USB and/or using a MiniDP rather than a miniHDMI would improve things -- I'm not sure why they went with HDMI on a business machine, especially when miniDP adapters are far easier to come by. If I were in the market for a new X-series I'd strongly consider the TPY instead (I just bought a T440p, so have had my fill of new machines for now).

    I've not yet experienced any of the software glitches others are reporting. I should test it further just to make sure. I'm also going to have her buy a OneLink dock, so should probably also test that to check it doesn't have the infamous issues.
     
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    I don't find it annoying, its a pretty useless mode to try and use the keyboard in, just wanted to know if it was meant to be like that :p

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  29. wg1

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    Yeah, I think my monitor has HDMI 1.3 What can I do about it is there such a thing as mini hdmi to displayport or DVI-D. The mini HDMI cable I bought was supposed to be 1.4.
     
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    What is this?!?
    Amazon.com: Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga 12.5-Inch Convertible Touchscreen Ultrabook (20CD00B4US) Grey: Computers & Accessories

    Went to look at the 20CD00US32 that I ordered from Amazon to go ahead and begin the return process (reasons listed in previous posts), and there's a link on the item page saying there's a newer version available. I click, and voila, the 20CD00B4US! What's up with this? Surely not a discreet fix for the screen? What gives? Costs $279 more than the 0032US for the same specs on Amazon. Weird.
     
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    It's nearly 250.00 more (similar to adding it to a custom build) and has the same specs. Does this maybe come with a digitizer? I know someone posted a sheet before that listed that retailers would soon be getting versions with the digitizer.
     
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    I think the same way but this is a wrong assumption by TPY! It only happens if you are exactly vertical and tilting forward and backward will initiate keyboard and backlit. It is a software bug and Lenovo should address that.

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  33. amirvf

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    My TPY accompanies me everywhere. I noticed it when in bed and lying on the side before falling asleep. :-D
    You have to always tilt it to get the keyboard and lights back.

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    Digitizer? Previously all models didn't have the pen in retail. I think that's how much was the difference to upgrade on Lenovo CTO.
     
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    Tried - no way - doesnt allow me to do the 273 point recalibration
     
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    That's what I was originally guessing, but all of the pictures show the non-digitizer version, and the description doesn't say anything about it. They've also just removed the bulk of the description. Very strange.
     
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    More people experiencing image retention and posting on the Lenovo support forums. Several have asked for an official word, solution, or even acknowledgement, but no one from Lenovo has yet to reply:

    Thinkpad Yoga watermark screen issue - Page 5 - Lenovo Community

    EDIT: I realize that not everyone's unit is showing any signs of image retention, but I think it's quite informative reading the experiences of those who have this issue. A few people who have posted about the image retention on their screens have had their yogas for only about a week! Whereas Soul347 and others have had theirs for longer with no sign of the issue at all.

    It's a gamble I personally won't take if the issue isn't addressed and fixed.
     
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    I'm after this as well, except with an SSD too.

    How did you get a better deal? I've tried googling for cheaper prices or coupons but it's still comes to a fortune.

    Visiting the US next month, so tempted to get one shipped to my hotel there instead (and put up with the US keyboard)

    Does any know any voucher codes / coupons for the US store ?
     
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    Out of interest has anyone found the Windows 8.1 product key printed anywhere on the device. I could not but have extracted it from the registry with Belarc.

    I am assuming it will be a block licence key, but useful to have if I decide to install a clean copy of Windows, has anyone seen if the Lenovo apps are available for download anywhere?
     
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    Maybe you should take a look at this article: How To Retrieve Windows 8 OEM Product Key From BIOS | Next of Windows
     
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    What's everyone using for their security type on their wireless networks?
    So far, I have not been able to connect to mine at home, and I have come to the realization that Windows 8 does not support WEP.
    Anyone able to connect with WEP? If you did, what's the trick?
     
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    Also, I can not find linearity data under Enum in the registry to redo the pen calibration. I can see it under control and tablet pc, but there are two, and one already says user linearity data.

    Anyone can help with this?
     
  44. soul347

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    A gamble indeed. So far still no sign of image rentention. As soon as I get hit I'll post it right away here, along with the amount of time I've had the TPY
     
  45. soul347

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    I already secured the cd-key of mine by using the free version of this software that you can download at this link: KeyFinder | Magical Jelly Bean

    I recorded mine in onenote just in case I want to do a clean install any time in the future. So far I'm perfectly fine though with just starting with the factory settings. ThinkPads don't come with THAT much bloatware.
     
  46. soul347

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    Awesome. Glad for your friend. I personally think 2 USB 3.0 points is sufficient. When I am out of the house I rarely would ever need more than 2. When I am at home, I have 6 USB 3.0 ports plus 2 USB 2.0 ports with the onelink dock, which is plenty. Call me crazy but I also prefer the mini hdmi. I've been using the Mini display port for a long time with my surface pro, and it just feels more flimsy and the connection isn't as firm as with the mini hdmi. The adapters for mini hdmi are even cheaper and less cumbersome than mini dp adapters, so I bought a bunch to keep in several different bags and places.

    Also love my onelink pro dock. I've encountered a few issues, but 80% of the time it is running exactly as it should be.
     
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    Why are you still using WEP, it's very insecure, almost equivalent to not using any security at all.

    Maybe you should read the following article: What Is WEP Wi-Fi Encryption & Why Is It Really Insecure?

    It turns out the TPY will not connect to any AP, for example my TPY has problems connecting to a TP-Link TL-WR841N V8 router at friends home, when I try this the wireless on the router crashes.
     
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    Anyone else have any ideas about this? I don't think it's the addition of a digitizer . . .
     
  49. soul347

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    For those of you using the old dependency package that enables you to charge your battery until 50% might want to disable this feature because there has been some reports that it creates problems with newer thinkpad models (which is probably why they removed the feature to begin with). The problem is that people have reported that it causes their battery to seemingly discharge faster. I don't know if it is a calibration issue, or if it actually lowers the capacity of your battery
     
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    I'm in the market for the Thinkpad Yoga. It would be my first Lenovo. Do you folks advise purchasing a warranty beyond the factory 1 year? Thanks?
     
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