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    New Y460 and Y560 Ideapads

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Rustican, Jan 22, 2010.

  1. youknowjack8

    youknowjack8 Notebook Guru

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    GTA iv, crysis and ETC all new games will run fine in MID to High Settings, just not ultra.

    SC2, i will test this week. My current notebook Asus N81vp-d1 (ATI 4650) can run it mid-high. So I expect the y560 (ATI 5730) to run it high-ultra.


    Also if you are CANADA: your options/customization is limited. If you are in the USA, you have many options to pick from.

    3D was shown on the notebooks during E3 conference, but will not be available on these notebooks due to cost. Expect that next year, read that somewhere online.
     
  2. TheWahbinator

    TheWahbinator Notebook Guru

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    My report: Portal is 70fps with lots of stuff going on and ~150-170fps staring a t a wall. SC2 is flawless on high, about to try a few minutes with ultra.

    I'll have a full pros/cons of the Y560 in a few days.

    Edit: Don't bother with ultra it runs like crap
     
  3. the_prairie_prophet

    the_prairie_prophet Notebook Enthusiast

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    thanks for the quick response jack, i did go back and spend some time reading the pages, i knew it was coming without RD and 3D, didn't expect them. I'm happy with the lappy so far, it's everything i thought it should be. It's my first laptop purchase, and no regrets so far!

    My only thing is deciding what to do about the bloatware, what is useful and what is not, so far there aren't much for detailed posts on that. I'll have to google the details of the most effective way of uninstalling programs you don't want and doing a safe registry clean to make sure you only scrap the things you want gone. In any case, thanks for any responses, it would be great to get all my info in one place :)
     
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    felixhelix Notebook Enthusiast

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    I ordered a Crucial 256 GB SSD drive from newegg, it will arrive in the next day or so. I will remove the original drive and install the SSD. I will post the results when I get hold of it.
     
  5. xb3h3mothx

    xb3h3mothx Notebook Enthusiast

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    Why is everyone switching to SSD
     
  6. xb3h3mothx

    xb3h3mothx Notebook Enthusiast

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    Take your time and delete it all
     
  7. dasj24

    dasj24 Newbie

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    if i install a PCIe SSD in a free slot on my Y560, am i going to be able to boot from it or not?
    if yes, can anyone explain in detail this process?
     
  8. Rustican

    Rustican Notebook Consultant

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    Because it's faster than a regular HDD. It's also has no moving parts which means that you have no risk of damaging your HD while moving your laptop around/bumping it into something/dropping it while it's being accessed. Uses less power when accessing data.

    The only down sides to a SDD is the price and smaller storage capacity.
     
  9. turqoisegirl08

    turqoisegirl08 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah and once you use SSD you'll notice just how noisy a regular hard drive is!
     
  10. youknowjack8

    youknowjack8 Notebook Guru

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    There are none available currently, the tech is there is its already in production, but none are being sold yet.

    I'd wait for the rapiddrive in Sept.
     
  11. supremekai

    supremekai Notebook Geek

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    some software maybe useful to me but not to you. Uninstall it after you have try it.

    Splitscreen - if you want more options than win 7 aero snap. Try it, like/don't like it, keep/uninstall it. [I kept it]

    SlideNav- the touch sensitive slider above the keyboard is useless with out this. [I kept it]

    OneKey theatre- for changing from normal to cinema mode and inteligent mode with the movie(one that looks like a film projector) touch sensitive button. [I kept it]

    OneKey Recovery - to restore to factory default, image your drive, etc. use the small button with the arrow. [I kept it]

    Lenovo Share direct - if your other laptop/computer has this you can share files with this. [I uninstalled it]

    Lenovo ReadyComm - network connection software. try it, if you don't think it's useful uninstall it. [I uninstalled it]

    Veriface- using the webcam to log you in. It is slow. Neat to show off to a friend. [I uninstalled it]

    Youcam- webcam software to take pics, videos. And it can also record your desktop. [I kept it, it's there when i need it]

    Power2Go- dvd/cd burner software. If you have another burning software uninstall it. [I kept it]

    Energy Management- self explainatory, also used for the battery touch sensitive button. And i believe some part of this software is needed for the other touch sensitive buttons. [I kept it]

    Mcafee Anti-virus- Uninstall it and Install your own anti-virus. [I uninstalled it]

    To uninstall anything i would recommend using Revo Uninstaller ( there is a free version). After the software uninstalls, it scans for left over registry and files.

    If i'm missing any other software, let me know.
     
  12. the_prairie_prophet

    the_prairie_prophet Notebook Enthusiast

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    Now that's the type of post I was looking for, mad props! Thanks for the
    details and uninstaller suggestion, I think that will work just fine for me. Looks like I got some work to do after work. haha

    Can't wait to get this thing fully operational. Guess I'm gonna have to pick up an extra mouse for it too, and some express card additions (extra usb's, firewire to name a few).

    So far definitely stoked! Mildly annoyed at the one dead pixel on arrival, but it's not worth the hassle of trying to get rma'd for something that small as I know most manufacturers have a minimum of like 3 or 4 before they'll do a replace, and the shipping time is just too long hahaha.
     
  13. Rustican

    Rustican Notebook Consultant

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    If you can't wait for rapid drive then get the new hybrid drives that Seagate has just come out with. Momentus XT.

    It basically does what the Lenovo rapiddrive does without the bother of dealing with Lenovo drivers or configurations.

    It offers performance that is close to SSDs while costing less and offering more storage. I actually see Lenovo dropping their rapid drive solution all together since installing a hybrid drive is a much simpler/cheaper solution.
     
  14. GtsXracer

    GtsXracer Notebook Consultant

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    Just curious with those who already received theirs. I order my y560 with the i7 back on 5/23. The ship date was originally for today. When I checked this morning, it was changed to next monday the 7th.

    0_o

    how long did you guys wait for yours from the purchase date?
     
  15. youknowjack8

    youknowjack8 Notebook Guru

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    i ordered on the 9th of May. Mine will be delivered tmrw, June 2nd.
     
  16. guillewu

    guillewu Newbie

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    i ordered a y460 may 31st. does that mean, it will be shipped from lenovo around june 15?
     
  17. GtsXracer

    GtsXracer Notebook Consultant

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    Wow. :eek:
     
  18. youknowjack8

    youknowjack8 Notebook Guru

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    Although I live in Canada. So I don't know how fast UPS is in the States.
     
  19. Monchoon

    Monchoon Newbie

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    I ordered a y560 on the 8th of May and it arrived on the 21st of May.
     
  20. the_prairie_prophet

    the_prairie_prophet Notebook Enthusiast

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    expect 3-4 weeks for shipping, plain and simple. a little bit of quick research would have found you that answer, to me the deal was worth the wait.
     
  21. seawolfxix

    seawolfxix Notebook Enthusiast

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    Looks like the highest price Y460 is now $999 if you add it to your cart. $849.15 after 15% coupon.
     
  22. abaddon4180

    abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Can anyone comment on the build quality of the Y560? From the pictures it looks to be cheap, glossy plastic but one can't really tell without handling it.
     
  23. lanctotsm

    lanctotsm Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey I dont have any complaints with my laptop so far. The glossy plastic does muck up easily, but overall the laptop feels very sturdy (no creaking or moveable plastic pieces). It most likely will not be able to stand up to the kind of abuse you would throw at a thinkpad, but in it's current capacity as a replacement for my desktop computer I think it is completely sufficient. Im very impressed with the quality, but I've never had a lenovo before so I cant compare it to its antecedents. As Ive said before, I wish the touchpad was smaller or more to the right as I frequently touch it inadvertently when typing.
     
  24. abaddon4180

    abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso

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    So the plastic is really glossy but there is no creaking or flex?
     
  25. lanctotsm

    lanctotsm Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well I think theres a little flex on the right hand side and the monitor casing but I feel completely comfortable using the empty space as a handrest even leaning on it. Its much better than my last laptop which would pres random keyboard keys if I leaned on the palmrest too hard. I would be very careful if you put this in a backpack to make sure theres padding between it and books, it doesnt offer the same protection for the screen as thinkpads or HP's glass screens.
     
  26. AboutThreeFitty

    AboutThreeFitty ~350

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    Just got my Kingston V+ Series 128Gb SSD. But I have to work so I can't pop her in. :(
     
  27. Starcub

    Starcub Notebook Consultant

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    TheWahbinator Notebook Guru

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    The keyboard flex is only noticeable when you push really really hard on it (yes, more on the right hand side) The only thing I'd consider bad build quality is the outer red trim. It feels like it's going to come off if pushed on too hard so I'm going to hope it doesn't break.
     
  29. supremekai

    supremekai Notebook Geek

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    anyone know what the led beside the wifi led is for? my is always off, i just notice there was a led there.
     
  30. TheWahbinator

    TheWahbinator Notebook Guru

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    My only explanation would be the ambient light sensor.
     
  31. youknowjack8

    youknowjack8 Notebook Guru

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    yes it is.


    Can anyone confirm that the new AMD ATI driver doesn't support switchable graphics? some canadian forum sites are saying that you shouldn't update the video card driver.
     
  32. TheWahbinator

    TheWahbinator Notebook Guru

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    I'd be happy if there is an update, where can I download it? Ever since the day after I opened the box I've been having issues where the screen flickers and makes the computer completely unusable, not even while gaming just web browsing. And sometimes it shuts down when it's supposed to sleep and it tells me there was an unexpected shutdown after booting; all attributed to atikmdag.sys

    This is a pretty big concern and I hope it's solvable and only a driver issue.
     
  33. seedopeedo

    seedopeedo Newbie

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    Hey Wahbinator, i see you swapped in a seagate momentus 7200, I've read lots of reviews and apparently theres loud clicking noises from the momentus 7200.4 series. How is it so far? I've been thinking about grabbing a WD scorpio, slight increase in price but I know i can trust WD
     
  34. TheWahbinator

    TheWahbinator Notebook Guru

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    Device manager tells me that's the drive that shipped with the laptop. But if you want to replace the drive I think a scorpio blue would be a good choice.

    btw I installed the new ATI driver, no crashes yet.
     
  35. seanguynj

    seanguynj Notebook Guru

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    so i finally pulled the trigger on the y560! my asus w3j died 2 weeks ago. it had a good 4 year run :)

    i'm hoping the 1366x resolution is good enough for the 15.6" screen... how is the screen quality of the y560?

    and how long of a wait am i looking at here for the laptop to arrive? I placed my order last night around 5pm, and live in us east.
     
  36. TheWahbinator

    TheWahbinator Notebook Guru

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    What model did you get? This week's special $350 off savings can be had with USPIDEAPAD0603 (only on i7 models again).

    The screen... not many good things to say about it. If you can handle the occasional grainyness it's fine.
     
  37. seanguynj

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    ahh... i got the basic model. i thought i didn't really need the higher processors for the things i do (but maybe that was a mistake a little time down the road hehe)

    maybe i should've gone the y460 route if y560 is grainy...
    i was even considering an older core 2 duo sony over the y560 because i feared screen wouldn't be crisp!
     
  38. thangdo

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    I've been having the same issues you were. Do you have a link to the driver? I don't think the one on the Lenovo site is right.
     
  40. KLOVER

    KLOVER Notebook Consultant

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    I'm getting bad flickering/dithering on blue backgrounds (new Y560). Can someone take a look at this image and tell me if you get flickering, shimmering, etc. in the red box?

    Yfrog Image : yfrog.com/62ditheringandflickeringp


    PS - You'll need to view it in it's large format to see it.
     
  41. thangdo

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    i get fuzzy static on white/grey backgrounds with dedicated graphics on. with the integrated everything is fine, try switching graphics?
     
  42. TheWahbinator

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    Lenovo Support - Drivers & Downloads

    Ignore the release date and look at the "last updated" date - they're from May 31. No changelog as of yet. I'm still getting unseen bluescreens with the 0x0000009f error faulting toward the display driver though, only when putting the computer to sleep when plugged in (on battery it works fine).
     
  43. nicksti

    nicksti Notebook Evangelist

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    Lenovo is revamping the Y560 models, so on their website you will notice as of today (June 03 2010) a sudden lack of options (only 2 models). This is to make way for the Y560 models featuring the new Intel i processors and ...

    Rapid Drive!

    The first one I am seeing out the gates is the Lenovo Y560 06462QU which has the new i5-450M, 500GB traditional HDD and 32GB SSD.

    Very nice :)
     
  44. KLOVER

    KLOVER Notebook Consultant

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    Happens on both intergrated and discrete. Only in blue-cyan areas. Looks like a cheap panel and its using dithering to produce colors.
     
  45. thangdo

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    Check the monitor settings and make sure the refresh rate is 60 and test out the colours, true/high settings maybe that will fix your problem
     
  46. supremekai

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    that's what i was asking before
     
  47. TheWahbinator

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    There's also two other notable models, 06462EU and 06462KU with... wait for it...
    3D display.

    :|
     
  48. seanguynj

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    I heard the refresh is coming in october.
    So long of a wait!
     
  49. soulibrium

    soulibrium Newbie

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    i just received my CANADIAN model y460. BOO, i got the english/french bilingual keyboard layout. where can i purchase the US keyboard, and can i install it pretty easily on the Y460 without messing up the OS keyboard settings?

    the CANADIAN version makes the ENTER key smaller and the LEFT SHIFT key smaller, by placing a "|\" key there. essentially there are 2 of those keys!! BOO!

    also, when i goto TASK MANAGER, it says i have 4 cores on my i5-520M. is it registering each cores (hyper thread) as 2 cores?
     
  50. ninja2000

    ninja2000 Mash IT

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    yes, it registers hyperthreading as cores in task manager
     
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