New Y460 and Y560 Ideapads

Is it my eyes or is it really available with core i5 520M CPU? (I though it would only be shipped with a core i5 430M).

 

it is real it comes i5 520m. which cpu is better i7 720q or i5 520m?

 

It's good that they changed the processor. Neither i5 430M nor i7 720QM was ideal for me, because i7 has high TDP which causes lower battery life, while i5 would be a bit slow for my use. However, I'm afraid of higher price of 520M.

Sheva24: i5 520M (2 cores) is a bit faster than i7 720QM (4 cores) while using only 2 cores. Core i7 is better for apps which can use 4 cores, but it's much more expensive, worse for 2-cores use and more battery demanding...

 

I second that.

If You don't use applications that utilises 4 cores, the i5 520M is the way to go.

Though I'd like to have a notebook with a i5 540M CPU, I think the i5 520M could be enough for almost everything.
(I wouldn't settle with the i5 430M CPU, my main dillemma was that the Vaio CW did have a good CPU, but a slower GPU - not to mention no switching support - , while the Lenovo Y 460 was announced to have a good GPU, but the i5 430M was just not attractive enough to have itself sold. The other thing I have to get over is the patterns on the notebook...any notebook...guess I'll just have to bite this bullet)

The i7 620M is also a 2 core CPU, and faster than the i5 540M, but AFAIK (I'm nut sure about TDP) it consumes more than the i5 CPUs.

 

Sorry, a little off-topic: Anyone has any ideas why the Y series are not (and seems like never was) available in Europe?

 

hello everyone. great info on these forums.
Today I-m kinda disappointed about the options available for the y460 and the delays of the y560, I-m almost decided to pull the trigger fora different model (more than likely the ASUS n61jq, what do you think about it over the *possible*y560?)

I have to questions for this thread: how many of you guys would rather wait and hope that the y560 i7 is actually better soon enough?

Second, how many of you are still in favor of i5s over i7s for applications such as Adobe suite CS4, gaming, 3d modelling (for secondlife and Google Earth particularly)? I still can-t find a good list of four core software...

 

kiskapu: I'm Czech and there is no problem to get any configuration of Y550. And we're not large country at all. However, I haven't seen Y450 not even Y650 here, that's true.

Why don't u like those patterns? I love them at least in the pictures, they are cool

 

Not bad, can't wait to see the y560, and how good the battery life will be!

 

Lol, it would be outrageous if the Y460 wouldn't be released in Germany (or anywhere in Europe near Germany).

They must release this here.....

 

Oh my god!

Just read that it doesn't support VT !!
And also no option in the Bios ........

 

Is it necessary for a multimedia laptop? I don't know exactly the advantages of VT, but I'd say that it's not so useful for common users. What's your opinion?

EDIT: I just read that Windows 7 has VT support only for Professional, Ultimate and Enterprise version. So if you were planning to run VT with Win 7 Home or Premium, so it sadly shouldn't be possible

I'd say that both Y560 and Y460 have only Win 7 HP, so the problem is just here.

 

I've been waiting for this laptop and looking at the specs on the configurations listed on Lenovo's site, I'm disappointed.

What happened to switchable graphics w/ 5650/Intel?
What happened to Rapid Drive? Why would anyone be using 5400rpm drives?
The price is higher than anticipated.


Not that I'm surprised by this, but it's ugly too - I hate the pattern on the back and what's with the orange accent? At least the keyboard's black and not that awkward gray/white color. If the specs were better than the models being offered, I am totally willing to overlook aesthetics, but it still needs to be said that it's not an attractive notebook. Also not surprised by the 1066mhz memory, but why are notebooks so far behind on memory speed?

Oh well, guess I will just keep waiting for the right notebook for me to come out. (My laptop's NVidia video card died in December and the waiting is getting really old though.)

 

The specs arent there but I assume it has switchable graphics. Without it an acer would be better or a vaio e, especially for that price.

I dont care so much for Hybrid HDD, ill still stick an ssd in there. This is it I just wanna see the compete specs, no ExpressCard is a deal breaker (usb 3.0)!

i5-540/20m + 5650 w/ switchable graphics + expresscard.

They must sell this in Germany or ill cry.

 

It's shown in the product banner on the Canadian Lenovo site, but on the order page there's only the Y450. Is this an error?

 

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/...D71ACFD7C4475B8E490358F8CA8C3&tabname=Compare

closest thing to specs switchable graphics & hhdd looks likely tho

so its not nvidia optimus only

 

Been keeping a close eye on this and the asus n82 but from what was mentioned earlier about someone actually reading no VT support nor in the BIOS, where did you read that if you don't mind me asking? Was really leaning towards the y460 because of the HD5650, but now since I work alot with VMWare/VBox it's a huge deal breaker if the no VT support is confirmed and I guess I'll have to "settle" with the 335m. Any info would be awesome.
Why wouldn't they support this in the first place?

 

dual cores

i7 620M > i5 540M > i5 520M

quad cores

i7 720M or faster

 

Agreed.

It's defiantely not available in Hungary, not even mentioned on Lenovo's hungarian site, nor on other Euro regional site I've checked, but I'm happy You've confirmed it's availabde in Germany.

 

I just don't like them, guess it's just a matter of taste.

BTW I'm glad it's available in the Checz Republic, thats even closer to Hungary than Germany is (if I decide to buy one).

 

I'm absolutely shocked at the pricing of the Y460. $1199?! Canadians will be seeing this retail for $1350. With a good coupon, this is a good chunk more expensive than a nicely spec'd T410, how can this be? Is Lenovo out to lunch here?

 

As long as the display is high quality i am willing to pay 200$ more.

 

From looking at the quick review the Thai guy did of the Y460, it looks like it still runs hot just like the previous model does. Hope that's not the case, or it's bad news for lap users. Have to check it out as soon as they are in the stores.

 

so using virtualbox is totally impossible with y460 because it doesn't support VT?

 

I thought people found a way with the old y450/y550 to enable VT? I think I read it on here somewhere but can anyone verify?

 

i think u can run a vm normally just that the guest os cant be 64bit

 

VT support is dependent on your hardware. Most laptops allow you to enable VT through a BIOS option. Some manufacturers like Lenovo and Sony have disallowed the BIOS option even when the hardware does support VT.

In Windows 7, there a a compatibility mode for XP which is a VT environment built into Windows 7. This is only available in Windows 7 Pro and Ultimate versions. Having Win 7 Pro and Ultimate will not help you if the BIOS options are disabled.

In the previous versions of the Y450 and Y550, people were able to hack the BIOS to enable VT support. The same was true for people in the Sony forums who had the same problem.

The Ideapad Y550p with the Intel i7 option had a VT option in the BIOS as one owner stated in the Y550p thread.

Weather or not Lenovo is allowing VT in the new Y460 and Y560 is still unknown.

Hope that clears up some things.

 

care to explain?

 

google...

http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaPad-Y-and-U-series-Laptops/Y550-No-Intel-VT-Support/td-p/132056

last post in that page.

 

Just called Lenovo, and the rep told me that the Y460 won't be sold in Canada for at least a month or two, and even when it IS sold, probably not with good configurations. But it's already on the stupid banner! Just can't order. This is so frustrating!

 

min2209: Haven't you asked him for Y460 in Europe? But I guess it won't be any better.

It seems that Lenovo makes effort to discourage us from buying Yx60 series latops. Asus, Acer and even Sony already have their laptops with new Radeon 5xxx graphics in the market, so I can't understand why it's problem for Lenovo. Since today I'm looking for laptops of another brand, maybe new Vaio EB without switchable graphics, sadly

EDIT: Maybe I will get Fujitsu pi 3560, it was my first favorite and its price (800$) is great for a powerful laptop with GT 240M. But I'm still afraid that I will regret buying it after Y560 will be in the market (if it will) :-/

 

http://www.lenovo.com/contact/de/de/

can some1 in germany call and ask about it? is it gonna be available and confirm switchable graphics?

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Tel. 0800 55 11 330 (kostenfrei)

I would have but im not in germany right now...

 

Wow lol, this thread really died down. Has anyone pulled the trigger on one of these yet? I read on their sight that these two are suppost to ship with the rapid drive option but I don't see it at all when configuring or under the detailed specs when you click on the y460 selections (i3 or i5).

Also, has anyone heard any more info on if or if not the VT is enabled or can be enabled through bios (only thing keeping me from buying one atm otherwise waiting for asus n82/acer 3820(or 4820)).

 

im thinking about buying the core i5 version at the end of this month... idk about the rapid drive option i kinda hope it comes with it... but i can give a crap about VT....as i dont do vmware and stuff ill be using it as a 14 gaming notebook without having to lug a big 15" to 16" around... owning a netbook sure has taught me one thing lol...

 

im waiting on some reviews. Want to know if the baby gets hot or not.

 

NO announcement here in Europe....

 

yes, switchable graphics is confirmed link

 

yeah im considering getting this or the sony cw with i5 and 330m. they are fairly comparable but the lenovo is thinner and little lighter and the 5650 is better than 330m. lenovo is little more money but might be worth smaller package and switchable graphics. anyone know how lenovo keyboards are in general because i really like the vaios.

 

Can anybody confirm or deny the earlier comment that the 5650 is underclocked in the y460?

 

What are the chances Lenovo updates the Y460 with a rapid drive? 0%?

Anyone get their hands on one of these yet? I'd really like to hear or read some reviews and impressions of the Y460.

I've heard conflicting reports on whether it runs hot or cool.

Has anyone heard how quick it boots into Windows 7?

Also, does anyone know if the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 1GB actually has 1GB of RAM or is it using some of the 4 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1066MHz system memory as virtual gfx memory?

Very tempted to grab a Y460 but I'm hesitant because of the 5400RPM HDD, mediocre screen quality, and questionable chassis.

 

I decided to call Lenovo earlier today and find how what the deal was with RapidDrive. According to the sales rep I spoke with, the Y460 and Y560 won't ship with RapidDrive technology until this Fall. The rep even told me that she would email me a more exact time but never did. I don't know if I should believe this or what, b/c the web page dedicated to these two models clearly states that its a feature, not that its coming later in the year. It really sucks that they are dragging their feet with these models. The original specs for these units stated they would be available with 7200prm hard drives, not 5400rpm. The whole reason I considered the Y560 was for the RapidDrive feature and if thats not coming out until Fall, then I have to make a choice: either get the Y560 without the RD or look for another laptop. I need something by May, at the latest.

I've heard mention of the Sony CW and the Asus N82, and they sound like nice units, but I'm not familiar with either in terms of quality and reliability.

 

Thanks for the info scubascuba, you're giving me good reason not drop $1k anytime soon. I hope they tweak the Y460 sooner than the Fall because if they wait that long they're going to have to tweak more than the HDD to sell it anywhere near $1,000.

Make some updates Lenovo or I'm going to be forced to take a second look at the CW and N82!

 

they just lowered the price of both varients of the Y460 899 and 1,049.00


makes me want to buy it even more now..even if it dosent have rapiddrive ill just put a 500gb 7200rpm hdd in there if i dont find the speed of the current hdd fast enough...

 

Woah! Good news Raptor! Now I am really tempted!

Damn taxes make it an extra $80 If only it was available on newegg or amazon!

 

I was thinking of doing the same thing. While I really want RapidDrive, I'm starting to worry that the inclusion of it may hike the price up another $100-200 from where it was before the sale price.

 

Anyone seen any decent reviews of the y460 yet? Doesn't seem like there's much out there except a few google-translated asian forums

 

this still doesnt confirm switchable graphics w/ y460 i5-520m. it could be nvidia optimus for the y560 and the asian market y460 w/ 5650 and confirmed switchable graphics have the i5-430m processor.

nothing till now confirms a i5-520/40m and 5650 switchable graphics afaik.

im also surprised u guys care about the hybrid hdd so much, whatever is in there ill just swap it w/ an ssd. I didnt see any good reviews/benchmarks of hhdds.

 

Ober is right.

It could be like the Rapid drive which is also adverstised on the same page.

Can someone call Lenovo and check? I am not based in the US.

 

There is a page that sort of confirms it. It might be an error though.

Link

 

The same page also confirms rapid drive on select models.

Most probably it should have it, but we don't know for sure.

 

Does the Y460 have a white keyboard? That's a deal killer for me.