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    New specs on T410, T510, and W510

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by zephir, Dec 26, 2009.

  1. ooxxoo

    ooxxoo Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes. It seems like the T410s is the 'real' T series and the T410/510 is just rebadged R series.
     
  2. DaBzzz

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    That's a 10.5" display sized about 25.9cm x 6.5cm. A loose wrist band with UltraHD++ resolution? :rolleyes:
     
  3. Paul386

    Paul386 Notebook Evangelist

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    I suspect 16:9 is probably the end of the aspect ratio war as long as it is the popular trend in televisions.
     
  4. not.sure

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    Look at the bright side: soon we can use our snowboard bags as notebook sleeves.
     
  5. randomdude

    randomdude Notebook Guru

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    ok, look at the gpus that were in lenovos for a while. they were the 3 series... god. wat more did u expect. they werent special at all. the 4 series was a leap and the 5 series is another huge leap. ati is turning around.

    I am not about to downgrade ONE thing for my laptop upgrade. my t60 better not beat out any aspect of the latest technology coming 2-3-4 years later. if my ati 1600 beats that nv out... imma just wait till a refresh or wait for the t420.

    if your doing cad, shouldnt u be using the w500? its got more power. imo, thats the real cad/heavy duty gpu/cpu intense laptop.



    on that topic, when do they normally do a refresh? and with refreshed, might they switch gpu's? idk how long until ati starts getting their lower end dx11 cards out and by then, their drivers should start maturing.
     
  6. jonlumpkin

    jonlumpkin NBR Transmogrifier

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    Just wait for 21:9 (2.35:1) CinemaScope style panels. They are already popping up in a few Philips LCDs ( source and product page). The Vaio P is already close to this as well (1600x768).
     
  7. zhaos

    zhaos Notebook Consultant

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    16:10 had the benefit of fitting full size keyboards on smaller sized screens. I don't know how much screens can shrink past 16:9 because then 14 inch laptops won't be able to fit a proper 7 row keyboard.
    I have already moved the taskbar from the bottom to the right side of the screen on my T400 to increase vertical space, and I can have more open windows that way.
     
  8. wilse

    wilse Notebook Evangelist

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    this is an excellent way to put it
    yes, i think this is the case as well

    they took a bit out of the t400/500, added a bit to the r400/500
    and we have the new t410/510

    the left the t410s
    as a pricey bells and whistles enthusiast model

    as an enthusiast, i'm disappointed in the lack of options now
    although the t410s looks mighty nice
    but probably from their perspective, considering their target market
    it was a smart move
     
  9. bsoft

    bsoft Notebook Consultant

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    Does anyone know whether the T410s uses a 1.8" drive (like the T400s)?
     
  10. wilse

    wilse Notebook Evangelist

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    i think it is very safe to assume that it does
    which is kind of disappointing
    because even if it is available to purchase
    i can't buy one until intel starts making their x18m-g2 drives available
    there's no other ssd worth putting in a machine
     
  11. ZoinksS2k

    ZoinksS2k Notebook Virtuoso

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    Looks like some updates are making it onto the Lenovo site. Not sure if it is my fault, but the intro flash takeover just loops. I wasn't able to navigate from www.lenovo.com

    I selected a shop page from the browser history and saw this:
    Untitled.jpg
     
  12. LaptopGun

    LaptopGun Notebook Evangelist

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    No doubt Nvidia's driver situation is better; however, Lenovo had a couple driver releases for XP at least. I think Vista had one update to resolve a couple bugs and fix the issue of the FireGL V5700 showing up as the garden variety Radeon 3650. Most manufacturers do that and it sucks. Nvidia gets props for doing that.
     
  13. Genryu

    Genryu Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah I just keep looping around and around too, hopefully this means that since it's kind of late in the night they're just working out the bugs for more official news tomorrow.
     
  14. not.sure

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    Looks like they're keeping a couple of old 15.4" models available, at least for the moment...
     
  15. ZoinksS2k

    ZoinksS2k Notebook Virtuoso

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    Wow, looping continues for me on Firefox, Safari, IE and Chrome. Can't navigate away from it without first selecting the Edge or X100e. Somebody screwed up with the homepage takeover (HPT) animation.

    Better remove the HPT or fix it before releasing the T and W series today.
     
  16. siser

    siser Newbie

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    This means
    t410 14.1 inch 16:10 or t510 15.6 inch with 16.9 resolution? that wound mean that both has a high of 19cm, right?
     
  17. jairo

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    No new tablet (X210t) announced so far? :confused:
     
  19. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    x200 and X200t is not been replaced in this current round of update, there are rumours that it will be replaced in Q2 of this year. Not everything gets upgraded in one go, usually the product revamp occurs over several months.
     
  20. jcvjcvjcvjcv

    jcvjcvjcvjcv Notebook Evangelist

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    The 12 inchers always lag behind.

    So what. Who cares about the Beta drivers crap that they shipped with the first badge of T61's?
     
  21. ZoinksS2k

    ZoinksS2k Notebook Virtuoso

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    Thats what she said
     
  22. cashflow2

    cashflow2 Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone know why the new spec models don't work on the website?
     
  23. sp00n

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    it says it availible on thier site... i cant find it lol. it just shows the old t400
     
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    not sure but the boot up seems pretty fast according to that video.
     
  29. cn_habs

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    I remember paying 200 CND for the R400 when it was first launched but my order got cancelled later on.

    Now this? That's really a ripp off for Canadians. :)
     

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  30. QualitySeeker

    QualitySeeker Notebook Consultant

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    ~10 seconds for BIOS init, ~32 seconds from swiping to desktop (and we know Windows shows the desktop before the system is ready/idle). It's not bad but not ground-breaking either. My Ubuntu 10.04 Alpha 1 boots in 12 seconds from the boot loader to a fully usable desktop. That would make 22 seconds on the ThinkPad - at least 10 seconds faster without any voodoo.
     
  31. not.sure

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    Lol. nvidia invented an NVS 5100M for the W510
     
  32. freedom16

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    So far i really dislike these configurations and what happened to having 512 quadro graphics? Also if you config the T410 and the T410s to the highest one it will tell you the highest monitor setting will delay your order by 4 weeks! What type of disinfo is that? So far the T410 and T410s has no difference at all.
     
  33. freedom16

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    Wow my notebook can boot up in twenty seconds and shut down also within 5-10 seconds big deal, gimmick what a gimmick.
     
  34. not.sure

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    I have to agree. For 14" not much changes, while for 15".. well,
    I think it's nice that they make a high-res FHD available in the T510 (unlike in the T500), but it's no good if the GPU is to weak to power that (assuming the 3100M is).

    At the same time, the W510 is just total overkill with only 45nm/W quad i7 as options (135W power brick. yeah. more power *grunt*). On top of that both T510 and W510 get bigger and heavier again.

    Personally, I'm somehow missing a relatively lean and mean machine like the W500 (or the T61p) was before, packing very good, but not excessive CPU and GPU power with acceptable battery life and size/weight.
     
  35. Genryu

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    What exactly does this card compare to? I've never heard of it before but it sounds like a rebadge of something from the way nvidia has done things in the past sometimes.
     
  36. Paul386

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    When you upgrade the processor on the T410s it gives you a 5-1 card reader instead! No price increase either. Plus you don't get any Nvidia graphics with it!
     
  37. wilse

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    Ok, the T410S is available for purchase now - where the heck is NotebookReview's review????!!!
     
  38. hax0rJimDuggan

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    Agreed. I can't pull the trigger on anything until I see a review :)
     
  39. njsss

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    I went to bed last night hoping to wake up and find the new T410s with switchable graphics ready to order. I guess I'm going to wait a bit longer..
     
  41. Paul386

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    Lenovo always fubar's their launch in regards to the quality of the website. The information is normally wrong and the web configuration normally doesn't work.
     
  42. wilse

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    i wouldn't order until we see some reviews
    how does the new roll cage hold up?
    exactly what is this mystery nvidia card?
    is the screen still utter garbage?
     
  43. choder

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    I'm not worried about the roll cage or nVidia's newest rebadge job (if that is what it is). As long as the screen on the T410s is as bright as the one on the T400s I'll be happy.
     
  44. speedy21589

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    Lovely...on Tech Specs it says the T410, T510, and T410s all have switchable graphics, but on the Compare page it says only the T410s does. If the T410 and T510 really don't have switchable, I'm going to be really disappointed.
     
  45. hceuterpe

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    And then on the customization pages, you'll notice the T410s doesn't offer discrete!
    FUBAR!!
     
  46. jminiman

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    I’m very confused about the Elite T410/T510 with discrete graphics. If it’s got the Arrandale chipset (with integrated graphics on-die) AND an NVIDIA NVS 3100m, which wouldn’t there be a facility for using integrated graphics on battery power and the NVS 3100m when plugged in?

    In the tech specs for both, I see:

    "Graphics
    Integrated Intel® 5
    nVIDIA® switchable NVS3100M 512MB"

    But in the feature comparison of the T-Series line, neither has "switchable" as features unless the Elites are treated separately.
     
  47. QualitySeeker

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    Exactly what I wanna know: no switchable graphics for T410 and T510, but what does that mean?

    If I configure a T510 with an i7-620M and a NVS3100M, will I still be able to turn off the Nvidia GPU via the BIOS (let's say after it died due to a manufacturing screw-up :rolleyes:) and use Intel's integrated GPU? If not, I'm not buying it. Why should I pay for cool next-gen features when I can't use them?

    Or does it only mean we won't get driver support (no on-the-fly change)? That wouldn't bother me...
     
  48. cn_habs

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    The best way is to call Lenovo and ask whether T410&T510 have swithable graphics.
     
  49. wilse

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    I'm getting pretty disappointed with NotebookReview. Here we are over halfway through the release date for the T410S and still no review posted. What gives? Are they losing their edge?
     
  50. choder

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    I just got off the phone with them. According to Desmond at Lenovo, the T410 and T510 will have switchable graphics if ordered with the nVidia discrete video chip. Also, the T410s with switchable graphics won't be available until mid-February. :rolleyes:
     
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