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    T440p / T440 / X240 / L440 / L540 Pictures leaked!

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by ibmthink, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. nagle3092

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    Which Thinkpad (other than W700 and W701) comes with dual fans?
     
    mochaultimate, Sep 3, 2013
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    X240 vs X230 side-by-side

    X240_vs_X230.jpg
     
    Bloody Nokia Adept, Sep 3, 2013
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    Gotta say I'm not liking the new case color of Thinkpads. The beauty of the old Thinkpad black was that everything was black... buttons, keyboard, case, trackpad. It gave everything a nice uniformity. The new dull gray color leaves the keyboard and trackpad looking awkwardly off color. Like a mis-matched suit. I hope it looks better in reality than in pics.
     
    pipspeak, Sep 3, 2013
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    Would most business users of an X240 really notice any difference? I doubt it. A gaming machine this is not!
     
    pipspeak, Sep 3, 2013
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    Lenovo outs five new ThinkPads, including a 15-inch business Ultrabook

    if what this article say is correct then my only hope for a quad-core, FHD+touch, dGPU laptop is the T440p or the T540/W540(hope these can come under 1 inch, i'm using a 5 years old macbook pro right now and i'm just dying to get an upgrade...but i still want it to have the same thickness)

    if all fails then i'll jump ship and buy the M3800...which is a lot more expensive but seems to be my only choice

    also am i correct to guess that if the article doesn't specifically say "quad core cpu" but only "latest 4th generation i7" that means they are ULV models? if i were in marketing i would point out that the laptop has a quad core, sounds good anyways...
     
    trojanec, Sep 3, 2013
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  7. 600X

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    My point was plenty of Ultabooks are built with dual fans. And since Lenovo seems to be leaning towards the Ultrabooks design, it seems likely they might also incorporate the dual fan design.
     
    600X, Sep 3, 2013
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  8. descendency

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    Optional Full HD with (or without) touch screen? On an X series Thinkpad? Thank you Lenovo. :)
     
    descendency, Sep 3, 2013
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    what do you need all those features for? honest question.

    quad core and dgpu arent necessary unless youre using it for work.
     
    MaX PL, Sep 3, 2013
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    Bloody Nokia Adept, Sep 3, 2013
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    Is it me or there is no dedicated Insert button anymore on X240/X240s?! It seems to be handled by Fn+End.

    Is it still a professional line of laptops for typists and road warriors? :confused:
     
    Bloody Nokia Adept, Sep 3, 2013
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    Well, in my experiences the Insert key has hindered my work more than it has helped it....

    But i guess for some it's a pro... Oh well :confused:
     
    Jobine, Sep 3, 2013
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    Who said anything about gaming? I see this annoying comment alot around here and its amazing how people jump to conclusions.
     
    nagle3092, Sep 3, 2013
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    its a black macbook in 14 inch and 12.5 inch.
     
    kaede, Sep 3, 2013
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    Corrected it for you.
     
    Jobine, Sep 3, 2013
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    Nonsense. The differences are very big.
     
    ibmthink, Sep 3, 2013
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    My point was that afaik I doubt anyone would notice single vs dual channel speed differences (on any machine) unless perhaps they were gaming. Certainly for normal business apps it probably doesn't matter, but I could be wrong
     
    pipspeak, Sep 3, 2013
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  18. nagle3092

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    Besides maybe VM's/Image editing/video editing/CAD/report generation and others. I get the feeling people see "business" and automatically think MS Office applications.
     
    nagle3092, Sep 3, 2013
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    Any infos if there will be an expresscard slot for the X240? If not, I stick with the X230.
     
    yplus, Sep 3, 2013
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    In my case, as someone that runs VMs, I would assume that anything with a "U" password would be out of the question. I assume that leaves only the T440p in my case? If so, whether or not I get a T440p would depend on whether or not it includes a 1080p IPS screen. Otherwise I'll stick with my T430.
     
    jlacroix, Sep 3, 2013
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    Video editing isn't going to be RAM bandwidth limited on this kind of machine. Neither would CAD. Image editing is more likely to be RAM space and not RAM bandwidth limited.

    Report generations are disk intensive, unless you are doing something that I'm not aware of.

    VMs are certainly an area where more and faster RAM is needed, but the number of people that are buying an X/T series laptop for what they need a workstation is probably fewer than Lenovo should be concerned about. If you need a workstation, you should buy one. That's why the Ws exist.
     
    descendency, Sep 3, 2013
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    But that's surely not what the X240 is designed for. Its design favors battery life and portability over sheer processing power and it was never intended to be a mini-workstation.
     
    pipspeak, Sep 3, 2013
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    Tell that to my sig, which proves that there doesn't have to be a big compromise between the two! It's just that with this generation of laptops, vendors are trying to create a new paradigm for us....
     
    Aikimox, Sep 3, 2013
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    There is something very wrong with those specs:
    The default option for the T440 is STILL 1366x768?
    The T440 can't have FHD but the T440s can
    The T440 has one LESS USB port than the T440s
    The T440 only goes up to i7
    Both machines have the same battery, but different types of processors (assumed), so they can't have the same battery life
     
    Yuxie, Sep 3, 2013
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    Looks like the new line is:
    T440 - entry model (budget oriented)
    T440s - better (slimmer and lighter)
    T440p - better (more power)

    Also, i5 and i7 (two core) have similar power consumption when on battery (Internet browsing/light work) especially the ULV versions. The difference shows up at full processor usage, but using 100% of CPU for long time on battery is rather rare.
     
    wnuku, Sep 3, 2013
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    I agree with you there... it always amazes me how manufacturers all jump on the same bandwagon in a giant "me too" frenzy. With cellphones it led to phones with 5" screens that frankly are now too cumbersome due to their enormous footprint, however thin they might be. With laptops it seems thinness and long battery life are the current "me too" features that companies are all racing to brag about. We seem to be heading towards a choice of either ultrabook or 15" workstation with not much in between.

    I just hope the T440p appears soon, because it looks like the T440 has also been compromised by Lenovo's marketing department, sacrificed on the alter of thinness
     
    pipspeak, Sep 3, 2013
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    very true, but for the phone argument i would say that consumers gave manufactures the "go ahead" with the votes from their wallets. just look at how well the GS4 is doing globally, a lot of people around the world like the idea of bigger screen phones(although i don't, i think 4.5 is more than enough)

    simple fact, if a company is trying to push out a new product idea of thinness and lightness, it's because the general population actually wants it to be pushed out. so in a sense we put ourselves in this situation.it's just that we are not in a stage of technology where we can solve both the thinness and heating issues. but the manufactures still want that piece of lucrative market.
     
    trojanec, Sep 3, 2013
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    I'm not convinced. There is no doubt a segment of the market that wants 5" phone screens and thin laptops, for example, but I think this is amplified by the herd mentality of manufacturers and their marketing departments. The result is that I suspect a lot of people would like other options but end up having to compromise. In the case of phones, for example, almost everyone I know does not want a giant phone so they either bought an iPhone or one of the few smaller Android handsets still available.
     
    pipspeak, Sep 3, 2013
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  30. Aikimox

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    I believe we are, but that would mean more expensive systems and a broken equilibrium...
     
    Aikimox, Sep 3, 2013
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    compare.jpg Is it just me or does the W540 look thinner than the T440P.

    It looks like there is no side vent which along with the thin profile makes me wish they made it dual cooling fans.
     
    Macpod, Sep 4, 2013
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    So, no info on the expresscard slot for the X240?

    Looks like the T440 lost the expresscard slot also... :mad:
     
    yplus, Sep 4, 2013
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    w540 has Thunderbolt connector? News to me...God I wish they made an external GPU built into the docking station or via Thunderbolt. Seems like a no-brainer to me (minus the technical details and Intel's compliance :p
     
    w_km, Sep 9, 2013
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    wow the T440p, T540p, W540 look really thick, any chance any of them is under 1 inch?
     
    trojanec, Sep 9, 2013
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    agreed, look very thick. i'm going to assume the answer is no
     
    unknown00, Sep 9, 2013
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    yeh, T440p is thick. What is inside?
     
    pepper_john, Sep 9, 2013
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    Probably a quad-core 4700 and a dGPU, like the Y series.
     
    Jobine, Sep 9, 2013
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    Is the previous generation T/W530 really thick? Sure it's big (weight/height wise), and heavy (especially with 170W power supply), but for these dimensions 1.25" thickness is nothing. The new ones are likely to have the same height or less.

    P.S. I would understand if people were interested whether Txxxp have enough RAM and storage to justify their prefix/suffix. Or even were unhappy with huge bezels, and thus larger physical dimensions than necessary for a given screen size, affecting choice of bags or usability in limited space etc. But why sub-1.5" when closed raises the "thickness" issue?
     
    power7, Sep 9, 2013
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    unfortunately that system is known to overheat and throttle the CPU. Here is a review of the Y510p. I'm going to assume the y410p is the same or slightly worse.
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Y510p-Notebook.97470.0.html
    I still havent seen a 14inch laptop that can take a 47w chip. Plenty can take the 37 non v-pro chips. But lenovo never uses non v-pro chips in T/W series notebooks for enterprise reasons.

    But! i really really hope you are right and they worked miracles with the cooling and was able to fit a 47w chip in there. I would buy it straight away. I really don't need the extra screen space and numpad of the 5XX series but i do need a quadcore cpu with good cooling behind it.
     
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    Since they promise up to 10 hours of battery life for the T440p with the standard battery, I doubt it. Their recent published estimates are not too far off from real-world scenarios.
     
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    Cincinnatux, Sep 10, 2013
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    ibmthink, Sep 10, 2013
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    Honestly, i hate to sound fanboyish, but Lenovo actually does a decent job with battery life estimates. Can't say the same for HP.
     
    Jobine, Sep 10, 2013
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    W530 is 1.4 @ it's thickest point
     
    Jobine, Sep 10, 2013
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    T440P Specs:

    Up to 4th Gen Intel® Core™ i7 processor
    Up to Windows 8 Pro
    Up to NVIDIA® GeForce™ GT730M graphics
    Up to 16GB DDR memory
    Up to 1TB HDD or up to 256GB SSD storage
    **Up to 6 hours battery life
    Up to 14" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS display
    Starting at 1.9 kgs (4.1 lbs) / 27.9 mm thin (1.1")



    It uses a GT730M? What the heck. I really hope thats a typo. Thats slower than an intel iris pro 5200 and could be on a 64bit memory bandwidth..........

    Not a fair comparison if you need HDD/DVD but the razer blade 14 has a GTX765M and is .8"thick. 730>740>745>750>760> 765M

    If the T440p doesnt have 47w quadcore it's going to be a big 'What the'. It better be cheap and the IPS better be worth it.
     
    Macpod, Sep 10, 2013
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    this just makes me want to see the W540's specs even more...i'm pretty sure it'll have a nvidia K card which should be good enough for CAD heavy stuff(and the occasional LoL)

    please have it under 1 inch, if not, please be much cheaper than the M3800, i'll buy it in a heartbeat. also, i guess since the T540p is packing 2880*1620 screen the W540 should have this option as well right? or maybe even a 3200*1800 option???
     
    trojanec, Sep 11, 2013
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