T440p / T440 / X240 / L440 / L540 Pictures leaked!

Probably because the cooling system wouldn´t take more than the Core i7-4900MQ and the GT 730M together - but we will never know for sure.

On the CPU side, there is no 14" Notebook with a equal performance at the moment. The T440p is the fastest 14" Notebook when it comes to the CPU, it could "crush" the ZBook 14 on this field.

And about the resolution - ThinkPad X3 with 2560x1440 display is coming on the ThinkPad side.

Well, the CPUs used in the Y-Series are much weaker. ThinkPads are not Gaming-Notebooks, so why should Lenovo do this? If someone needs a machine with SERIOUS power for serious mobile work, they still have the W540 - lets not forget, the T440p is not a W440.

Well, the GT 730M isn´t so bad at all, still much faster than any GPU used in the T61.

 

Indeed, but there are always compromises. Want a T-series with GPU, docking port but no optical drive to save weight? No can do. I don't even understand why the T440p doesn't have a glass trackpad like the T440s. Instead it's mylar, which means it'll get all shiny and ugly after a while. Why? To save 10g in weight? To save $0.20 in manufacturing cost? On a machine that is expensive and relatively heavy to start with? I don't get some of the weird decisions Lenovo's made.

I long ago realized I'm NOT the target market for most manufacturers

 

As always, there is a lovely option for a Travel Bezel for the Ultrabay, which can be used instead of the ODD to save weigth.

Well, I don´t understand this as well, as the price difference shouldn´t be too high.

We will see how the different material will look after some time of usage. On the ThinkPad Twist, the TouchPad is for example made out of glass, but also gets shiny. On the T440s, I can´t see this happening for now, but I am not using the TouchPad very much, so we will see how it fares in the future. Maybe the Mylar is better in this aspect? Nobody can tell yet.

 

Good point, but I'm sure a superior (albeit more expensive and heavier) cooling design could handle the quad core CPU + heftier GPUs for driving multiple displays when docked. Another point of differentiation for the ThinkPad should be to remove the trackpad (trackpoint is superior and most users use a mouse on such a device (non X series)) and remove the ultrabay to better utilize the space in a redesign. Unfortunately none of this will ever happen and I'm also realizing more and more that I'm not the target market for laptop manufacturers...hello desktop PC.

 

full power quadcore + decent gpu + IPS +decent range of ports.....

turned out quite good. This really is the 'I must have everything latop'. I cant think of one feature missing. Only test left is the cooling.

Unlike the last generation of 4XX series, this series will actually be cannibalizing sales from the 5xx series. Only advantage i can see the 5 series having over it is the numpad (if that is your thing) and QHD on the W540. Yes also you get much more ram and better GPU. But they are not as big as not having a quadcore on the old T430.

Awsome job lenovo.

 

Here are some nice pictures ("real-life" pictures) of T440p, T540p, L440, L540 and W540 (and X240 and T440s): 写真で見る新ThinkPadã¨å†…éƒ¨æ§‹é€ - CNET Japan

 

T440 and T440p are available at Lenovo Australia.

 

And a lot of people must be taking a look because the site keeps freezing or crashing for me

 

I forget, is an FHD touchscreen going to be an option on the T440p later this year?

Do we know what the cooling setup is in the T440p? Single or dual fan, for example? I worry that configured with a quad-core CPU and 7200rpm HDD this will be a heat/noise monster. Also curious if anyone has any pictures illustrating the difference in size between Lenovo's 90W and 135W power bricks.

 

I have heard something about the W540, which should get the Touch-Option in 2014, so maybe the T440p will follow then as well. But in 2013: No, I think not.

 

Does the 9 cell (99Wh) battery stick outside of the T440p bezel ? What is the weight added by using the 9 cell over the 6 cell ?

 

I imagine it's the same as the existing style of Thinkpad extended batteries in that it sticks out behind the machine. No idea of the weight difference of the new batteries, but the old ones are about 0.3lb apart

 

Ok, I've got a t440p configured the way I want it.. and found the ultrabay slim adapter (p# 0B47315)

I know no one knows definately, but have the T series typically not had issues with thermal throttling? For example, my m6600 will stay at max turbo till the end of time....does the T4x0 do that as well or is that more of a feature of the workstations?

 

No. I believe the extended battery will have jut out from below the laptop rather than behind just like it does on the T440s. The way the hinges are constructed does not allow for the laptop to open 180 degrees and have room for a battery that juts outwardly. You can check out pics in the T440s forum or maybe google.

 

@ibmquality,
thats incorrect. The T440p has the classic ThinkPad top-mount hinges, and the 9-cell sticks out at the back just like the T430 with 9-cell.

 

Good find on the ultrabay adapter... shame Lenovo made the new ultrabay harder to swap in and out. Any idea if that ultrabay is SATA 2 or 3?

I'm also curious about thermal properties of a loaded T440p. Quad core CPU, GPU, and a 7200rpm drive look like they might generate enough heat to really tax the single fan. Add an ultrabay drive and things could get really toasty. The last 'p' model Lenovo released (T61p) had a bit of a bad reputation for heat issues.

 

UltraBay still should be SATA 3, but I am not absolutely sure.

We will see it when it finally gets tested, but I don´t think it should be a big problem. W530 also could handle Extreme CPUs and a Quadro with a single fan, so the slightly smaller T440p also should have no problems with normal 47 W Quads and a less powerfull GPU. But we will see.

 

ibmthink, do you have any pictures comparing the t440s to the t440p anywhere?
i recall seeing some from some japanese site, but dont have the link.

the t440p is only half a pound heavier than the t440s which isnt bad, and it would allow me to use 16gb. and since it had the full hd ips and most other options of the t440s, i think i may settle for a t440p.

whats the thickness difference between the two? is the t440p noticeably thicker?

 

No comparison pictures, only 1 picture of the T440p alone: 写真で見る新ThinkPadと内部構造 - CNET Japan

If you get the T440p and don´t need the ODD, I would consider to take it out and use an Empty bezel instead (travel bezel), to lower the weight even further.

The T440p is 8mm thicker, I think this should be really noticable.

 

photos & review of the t440p

Lenovo ThinkPad T440p - cicha rewolucja

 

I still wish they'd have offered the equivalent of a T440p without an ultrabay to keep the thickness below an inch. The T440p has a slightly smaller footprint than the T430 and is slightly lighter but it is also thicker and in this age of ultrabooks and svelte Macbooks its 1.3" chunkiness might look like it's from 2003 instead of 2013.

 

thanks for both links guys.

the t440p is so thick looking. about 30 to 40% thicker looking than my t400 which apparently ways 4.7 pounds, and thats likely without the 9 cell i have.

i really dont get why this is so thick yet weighs half a pound less.

edit:

nvm i guess. one place lists the t440p at 4.1lbs and the other at 4.7. i'm gonna go with 4.7 considering how large it looks.
and apparently the t400 is 1.1 to 1.3" vs 1.29" for the t440p... so i guess the difference in thickness isnt that great.

 

Google Translate really doesn't do a good job with Polish!

Touchpad gets a 6/10 and speakers get a 5/10, which is disappointing, but they clearly loved the screen although the backlight uniformity measurements did not look very impressive

 

I think the T440p does look thick because of the design of the front of the palmrest and because of the thin display. Looks like a black tank, if you only look on the base.

Very nice link, thanks!

 

I think the T440p looks thicker than it actually is because it's width and depth are slightly smaller than older models and it does not have the same rounded, thinner front edge as older models. It's more box-shaped, with the same thickness front to back. Reminds me of the shape of a Toshiba laptop I owned in 1998

 

I have a T440p FHD, i7 4700MQ, 730M on its way, scheduled to arrive Nov. 8, so I could probably provide some photos if people have questions once it arrives.

 

I think it still looks much better than the T430 http://www.notebookcheck.com/fileadmin/_migrated/pics/12_gesamt5.jpg

Looks a bit cheap somehow in comparison with the T440p.

Looking forward to it.

 

we have tricky language

- bending body in two places
+ two screws to open bottom cover
+space between ports
+ keyboard
- loud touchpad
- no screen latch
- poor sound system - worse than in the t440s
++ matt screen
++ very very silent

in general very good quality

Core i7-4600M 50% better then Core i7-4500U.

100 Wh battery = 8hr of web browsing

 

Awesome... the configuration I'm thinking of buying Looking forward to your impressions.

How are you able to get it so fast? Lenovo is currently quoting shipping for end of November

 

Initially it says end of November after ordering, but once the status changes to "Released to Manufacturing" the ship date moves to the left. They're just adding some padding probably in anticipation with many orders in the beginning.

I've got a T440p on order also scheduled to arrive November 8. It'll replace my T61 which sadly died last month.

 

Closer to 7.5 hours, which is pretty bad considering Lenovo quotes "up to 13 hours". I know manufacturers (except Apple) are hopelessly optimistic with battery life estimates, but this strikes me as particularly off-base and suggests we'd be lucky to get even close to 5 hours with the 6-cell battery, maybe closer to 4 hours for quad-core.

 

Hopefully not already discussed, but I am interested in knowing how the high resolution of the FDH display suits the size of the screen.
It would seem that things might be uncomfortably small by comparison to my desktop monitor.
Anyone seen one?

 

I think it's an individual thing, I saw a Samsung 13.3" with FHD and I thought I will be comfortable working at that resolution, so the best bet is to find one in a store and check it out by yourself.

 

The FHD screen on the t440p should just be a matte version of the t440s screen... So far everyone loves that one, I haven't read any complaints that things are too small..

On a totally unrelated note, the w540 page seems like it's getting updated / changed / something..

 

The screen FHD screen of the T440s itself is matte.

 

Does anyone have any idea which version of the GT730M GPU the T440P uses? Evidently there are two versions out there, one using the existing GK107, 128bit kepler core, the other using the new GK208, 64bit core.

 

The Gpu in T440p is the 64bit version

 

Thanks.

Did anyone else notice the base price of the T440p in the US configurator just went up to $1009?

 

I think it's the keyboard.. I think the default is to include the back-lit keyboard now

 

Wasn't that always the default? It's the default for the T440 with the same original $979 base price as the T440p ... in fact there is no other option for the T440

Edit: there is an option for non-backlit keyboard for the T440p, but selecting that takes the price down to $969, which still doesn't match the $979 "base price" on the main page. Does anyone who's already ordered a T440p know if the backlit keyboard was standard in their base price?

 

When I made my day 1 order, the backlit kb was included in the base price.

 

Guess I'll wait a few days to see if the price comes down again. Online reps seem clueless about the change

 

Yeah, I ordered mine on day one, and my config would be $30 more today. Upon closer inspection, I see that they're forcing Norton Antivirus 2013 15-month subscription on folks now... which I suspect is where the $30.00 comes from. It's the only difference I could find from my order.

 

Here's what one Lenovo rep said in the Q&A on their product page:

But then another rep said this:

Those numbers don't exactly add up, do they?
Edit: I guess it's about right if you round up... 4.7 minus 0.73 = 4.03... rounded up it would be 4.1. Mine should be 5.13 lbs then since I got a 9-cell battery.

 

Re. weight of T440p: I would imagine there is a difference between the HDD and SSD models.

Re. the extra $30: I noticed that too, and the addition of the Norton 15 month subscription - like they're trying to sneak that on us (I should imagine their profit margin on the Norton subscription is pretty good...)

Re. processors: I was unsure whether to get the i7-4700MQ or not. I want a 4-core really (Photoshop). If it was just $200 extra (over the basic i3 option) I would have happily paid it, but then they make you take the Nvidia GPU too for another $130. My experience with my T530 was that the integrated GPU was fine, and the only thing achieved from switching on the NVidia was extra fan noise and having to carry a 135W power brick with me instead of the slim 90W one. So in the end I got the i3 basic on my new T440p, and will buy the i7 chip later and install it myself (same socket precisely as i3 & i5), when the price has fallen (currently about $240 on Ebay). Anyone else thinking of doing this?

 

Ugh... forcing paid software onto us is just obnoxious. I hope it's a mistake, otherwise Lenovo just sank further in my estimations.

Any sign of non-polish T440p reviews yet?

 

Re: the weight... Good point about the drives. The Crucial M4 Series weighs 75g and Samsung 840 is 53.5g. Someone elsewhere weighed their system and reported 56g heavier with the HDD, which is about 1/8 lb, but I don't know which SSD they used.

I wonder if the Norton thing was on purpose. They seem to have Web problems here and there. I mean, the right hand summary says 10 hours on a 3 cell battery. I don't think so.

I thought about getting an i3 and upgrading myself later... But I really wanted a 3 year warranty, which that would void. I needed portability more than the extra performance, so went with the i5-4300M as a middle ground.

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A Lenovo rep today told me the $1009 base price is a website error and the problem has been passed on to the web development team to fix, so hopefully at least the price will soon be back down to the $979 base and we'll no longer have to deal with Norton

 

Random thing I just noticed browsing the Lenovo site idly, for some unfathomable reason it seems like the angles that they took the pictures for the T440p and T540p are a bit different from those for the T440s,T430, etc. People kept going on in the T440s thread about how the T440p is such a disappointment because it's so fat but I didn't understand it because the numbers show that it's thinner than the T430, but now I see that the way the pictures were taking the T440p and T540p look absolutely massive, but if you look closer you notice that the screen appears smaller in those images and the front lip appears thicker than it should somehow? Comparing the T530 to the T540p which are right next to each other here: ThinkPad T Series: Premium Laptops | Lenovo (US) the T540p is actually .15" thinner but the lip looks massive the way they pictured it.

 

According to the specs the T440p is thicker than the T430

T440p = 1.29" thick
T430 = 1.18" thick