T440s Owner´s Thread

Your Wi-Fi module is in an m.2 slot. You should have an additional, unused m.2 immediately adjacent to that unless you have a wireless WAN module installed.

What isn't included in your configuration is the third slot, normally located under the battery.

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Hum, I guess you're right, in the config listing the WAN says: MBL BB upgradable, future use
I'll open it up and look for it.

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Hey, good to hear I'm not the only one seeing this. I was already starting to ask myself is I got it all wrong since it changed for both lenovo.nl as for lenovo.com. Does anyone know what/why this is happening?

After 3 month of searching for laptops I decided to go for the T440s (despite its limiting cpu), but when I went to the website yesterday I did not had a option to configure one or buy one directly from them. Also the links I saved don't work anymore. Is this happening more often for example a upgrade in there line? Or is the line discontinued? If so I will need to buy an other brand laptop.

Anyone an idea?

 

OK, so apparently, we're going to see a T450s in the near future.. Couldn't find out more, and can't wait myself, so found a T440s via a dealer.

 

One method uses the BIOS built-in Diagnostic routines:
[1] During Boot. hit the Enter key to bring up the boot menu.
[2] Hit F10 to got to the Diagnostic screen
[3] Select System Information under the Tools menu
[4] Tab over to the LCD screen
[5] Here you will see the details of the installed panel

For example, mine now shows Mfg ID: AUO, Model B140HAN01.2

Previously, I had an LG panel which to me provided unacceptable performance. The max brightness was low and the off-center viewing angle was very poor. I received a replacement FRU via the Lenovo Service Center and replaced it myself.

Hope this helps.

 

No disrespect, but I'm not sure what makes you so confident in such a blanket statement. I can tell you that based on my recent experience with my personal T440S of replacing an LG panel with an AUO panel that this is not true. Both panels exhibited slight light bleed along the hinge edge of the panel. It was only visible on a totally black screen and even then it was barely visible. It appears there a variations between panels from both manufacturers but in my case the AUO did not have more light bleed.

 

My AUO screen was replaced with an LG panel and the LG panel has way less bleeding - same goes for countless other people who reported their AUO screen had bleeding hot-spots.

 

Just read a review from AnandTech about the best $1500 notebooks and saw T440S with i7 4600U configuration costs $1400 in US.

I was thinking like: 'Nice, I can afford that'

Then, I went to amazon.de (Since I am in europe), and the price is €1729 there. I so hate myself not being in US.

 

Nearly everything is a rip-off in Europe.

Back in the day, when the Lenovo Y510p was released, there were deals in the US for top-spec models for $900. In the UK, the same model costed £1000, which is nearly $1600. Crazy.

 

Here's my recent experience. I was not satisfied with the LG display so I called Lenovo and they agreed to install the AUO panel and sent me a depot box. I had the T440s back in 3 days with the new panel installed. The AUO panel has no noticeable light bleed and is much brighter with about the same clarity as the LG. I personally think the AUO is a better panel in this case. I wish that Lenovo had some display panels that were the brightness and clarity of my Surface Pro 2 and 3.

 

Hello T440s owners! I'm ready to buy a T440s, spec'd pretty much to the max. I see that it has the Intel 4400 graphics but it also has MiniDP but nowhere in any documentation does it say if it's 1.2 or whether it supports daisy-chaining, MST, etc...
My question is: can the MiniDP from the laptop (no dock) drive TWO 1440p monitors? The monitors would be extended desktop - NO mirroring. And the laptop would be closed.
I currently own two Dell U2715H, which have a DP out so daisy-chaining the monitors is no issue. I just need to know whether the laptop will support it w/ it's MiniDP.
I prefer not to buy a dock since I only would need a power cable and DP cable.
Also, I don't game.
Thank you!

 

Hey guys,

my intention was to buy a DELL XPS but it looks like it has got a big issue with the coil whine, so I changed my mind and looking to the T440 option. Much less power but overall looks working well. Do you reckon it is worth it? It looks there are issues with the panel.

I can buy the top (512 SSD, 12Ram, FHD) at $2,400.00 AUD which is not cheap anyway, same price of the top DELL XPS.
It looks like there is not a windows laptop out there working really well at the moment.

Thanks all,
Luca

 

I keep wondering what the advantage of buying t440s would be over buying Thinkpad Yoga 14. T440s is around $200~$300 more expensive than TPY14 with similar settings (t440s with 256gb ssd / intel hd4400 vs TPY14 with 1tb hdd / dGPU would be the main spec difference)

 

Question about the screen bleeding. Is it pretty much standard with every screen? I know some have it worse than others, but it seems like every screen at least has some bleeding in the bottom right corner for example.

Does anyone have a screen with no screen light bleeding at all?

 

I've had both models but I like the T440s much better. Some of these new Yoga panels that are 3840 pixels are horrible because if you run at that resolution everything is too small to read. If you use scaling, most software does not scale well (Photoshop as an example) and most programs are not very clear and text looks blurry. Even though the T440s is a bit thicker than the Yoga models I like it because it is much easier to customize. When I got my i7 T440s, I upgraded to 12 GB RAM, pulled the hard drive, added a 256 GB M.2 SATA drive for the main boot drive (there was an empty slot on the motherboard), did a clean install, then added a 2.5" Samsung 1 TB SSD back where the original 5400 rpm drive was located for storage. Now this baby boots to Windows in about 7 seconds. So what I ended up with is a business class notebook, great, crisp AUO LCD panel, 256 M.2 SATA as the main drive with 181 GB free after all programs installed, a 1 TB fast SSD for storage and video work, i7, 12 GB RAM, and I even added a 256 GB SDXC card in the SD slot for some scratch storage. You can't do all that with a Yoga! When the T440s is really tricked out, I think it's the best thing going in it's class right now. Plus, I think the keyboard on the T440s is much better than the Yoga. :thumbsup:

 

The ThinkPad Yoga 14 uses the same 1920x1080 IPS panel that is also available with the ThinkPad T440s, so this is only an issue of the Non-ThinkPad Yoga devices.

Comparing the ThinkPad Yoga 14 and the ThinkPad T440s, that isn't true.

False.

• The ThinkPad Yoga 14 is available with an i7 CPU
• You can uprade the ThinkPad Yoga 14 to 8GB RAM
• You can add a M.2 SSD
• You can replace the 2,5" HDD/SSD by a bigger HDD/SSD without any problems
• You can add a SDXC card

I think that isn't true either.

You propably didn't notice that "hugh.yoon.13" speaks of the ThinkPad Yoga 14?

 

I see no option on the Lenovo site for an i7 processor or 12 GB RAM for the Yoga 14. It shows 8 GB RAM max.

 

Does anyone know if it I possible to add a webcam to a T440s that did not come with a webcam?
Thank you.

 

I recently purchased a T440s with 500GB HDD and upgraded it to an SSD. I still have the 16GB internal SSD as well, and was thinking of using it as additional storage, however I can't find any information on what this drive actually is being used for (it's possible that I'm just not looking in the right place). I performed a clean Windows 8 install, and it has an "OEM" type partition. Will I lose any functionality if I reformat this drive for my own uses?

 

It's a cache drive, and as far as I know it simply depends on software in Windows. Assuming you did a clean install, you don't have that software on your new SSD. May as well format the 16GB M.2 SSD and use it for your pagefile or something. That's what I did, and it works fine.

 

When I purchased mine it was used as a recovery partition. I created a recovery usb and formatted it to install ubuntu.


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Hi all,

I got a T440s right around Christmas. I love the laptop, but I got a crappy LG display. I'm aware that not all LG displays are bad, but mine certainly is. I opened a service order and requested the specific FRU for the AUO display (04X0436). The tech came to replace the screen today, but lo and behold, he put another LG display in it. According to Everest, the manufacture date is 2013! (not sure if that is necessarily accurate or not)

I am opening another service order now, and including the FRU again, in hopes that it all goes well. The guy on the phone this time told me that they ordered the correct part last time, so who knows what happens. Hopefully it all works out now, because I really don't feel like dropping $100 or replacing the panel myself.

Has anyone else had this happen? Confirmation that the correct part number was ordered, but it was LG nonetheless?

 

Happened to me. I called Lenovo support here in Finland and made a complaint against the LG panel i had. The guy over the phone actually knew about this LG/AUO controvery and assured me that he would order a AUO panel with FRU number 04X0436 for me. As a matter of fact, he couldn't find any FRU's for T440s with FHD screen other than the AUO one from their system. During the same phone call i also complained about system fan that wouldn't go off at all after it started spinning.

Couple of business days later, i got a visit from Lenovo tech. He had a new panel, panel bezel and a fan with him. I immediately noticed the FRU on the panel box: it was 04X0626 which is FRU for LG panel. I told him that a wrong part has been sent and i don't want another defective screen. We agreed that he replaces the fan and then reports to their system that a wrong part has been sent. He told me that Lenovo would let me know what happens next with the screen. The fan was fixed and system was silent again atleast.

Few business days later (last friday) i got a call from the same Lenovo tech that replaced the fan telling me that another screen has been sent and it has the correct FRU now: 04X0436 / AUO. We agreed that he drops a visit next monday morning to replace the panel. So this monday the tech came and it took him around 30 mins to replace the panel.

Boot up and voila! It felt like i got completely different laptop. The AUO is so much better. Actually, this much better:

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Side-by-side comparison with my co-workers T440s with LG panel.
CLICK HERE for more pictures.
(And no, this is not a case about showing the worst from LG production line and best from AUO one. I have seen four (4) different LG LP140WF1-SPK1 panels and they're all like that even though the camera does exaggerate the differences a bit. They are almost like that with naked eye)

So why did i (and you) receive the wrong screen in the first place? Well, according to Lenovo support - atleast here in Finland - their spare parts warehousing works like this:

When a FRU is ordered:
Do we have it on stock now or within 5 days? Yes -> Send it
No -> Does it have a subsidiary* product and do we have those? Yes -> Send that instead
No -> Backorder and notify customer

*) It's industry standard that many parts in computers have subsidiary counterparts. For example, Samsung/Toshiba SSD's, <name your memory manufacturer>, etc. The point is, that a laptop manufacturer like Lenovo has more channels to buy their parts from. End user (usually) doesn't care if their mem is Samsung, hynix or crucial. Or what the manufacturer of their screen is. As long as they all work well and meet certain expectations. But this clearly isn't the case with this LG / AUO ridiculousness.

These panels don't have anything else in common than resolution and ability to show colors. Sure, they both are "14" FHD matte displays" that Lenovo are selling but it's also funny how every damn time something like this happens with any product - all the reviews samples are with better components. Always. And this is because your "Average Joe" doesn't care nor know any better.

Please check T440s LG/AUO replacement thread here. My post is the last one there atm.

 

This makes a lot of sense to me, and it's what I was thinking must be the case. I am in the US, but I'd bet that the process is similar. I didn't have the foresight to check the FRU before the tech installed the new screen, so I've now had 2 bad LG displays. They are sending another tech out next week, and I stressed that if the FRU is incorrect I will simply send the screen back. The guy on the phone said they'll do their best.

The thing that bugs me the most about this (except for the fact that it's happening at all) is that no one I've spoken with on the phone has heard of this issue, or really even seems to believe me. Even the tech who came to fix the computer yesterday asked to see it, and didn't see any issue that he thought would be solved by a new screen. It makes me feel like the boy who cried wolf, but the problem is very real.

Anyway, your comparison pics are a little outrageous, and I may save them to my computer just to show anyone who doesn't believe that there's an issue. Thanks for the info, and hopefully I can get my screen fixed next week and be a happy customer!

 

Is anyone having mouse lag problems? Whenever my t440s gets to about 70% cpu usage my mouse starts to lag. This happens with more than on mouse and even after a full wipe of the system using the recovery partition usb creator.

 

Hello, this my first post, nice to join you from France !
I'm a loyal TP user since the T60 and will be pleased to buy a T440.
If I need the B140HAN01.2 Panel from AUO, should I choose a T440s ? a T440p ? Does a touch screen use the AUO panel ?
I used a T540p 3K but was disappointed by the screen (light bleeding and viewing angles).

Thank you very much for your precious replies.
Sincerely,
Nicolas

 

The T440s touch screen are all AUO as far as I have ever heard. However the screen is glossy instead of matte, and a bit heavier. If you go for the non-touch T440s, it is an unknown whether you will receive an AUO screen or an LG.

 

I have the touch screen and it is not glossy. It has a plastic protector on it which gives it a matte finish. Also, it is an AUO panel.

 

Anyone know if it will be possible to retrofit a t440s with a touchpad from a t450s?

 

The ones we have are the same AUO screen as the non-touch, which is completely matte, but with a piece of glass bonded over it. There may be some anti-glare coating on it, but it's still glass which I would consider glossy.

 

My touchscreen is completely non reflective and smooth under my fingers, unlike my dell touchscreen which is truly reflective - that is, mirror like and more resistant to swiping. It is slightly less matte than my x220 of old, but I'd never describe it as "glossy".

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Would also love to know about retrofitting a 450s touchpad. I've been unable to find anything on reddit or the Web.

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Can anyone let me know if there is a guide to replacing the trackpad on the t440s - mine has not worked for some time and just got the replacement part. I've gone through the service manual but it does not provide any information for the trackpad. I've tried opening it up but couldn't find any easy access to get at the trackpad itself.

 

That's because it's not a separate part, but you'll need to replace the keyboard bezel assembly, which has the track pad attached to it, unless you've got some serious skillz. From the HMM, it looks like a pain in the rear. Good Luck.

 

How is everyone's battery doing?

I have the bigger (6 cell?) 72 Wh battery, which only charges to 30 Wh now (42% of its original capacity), which I find to be quite poor after only 11 months. I'm wondering if Lenovo considers this to be normal wear and tear, or if they would replace it under warranty?

 

I was wondering the same thing. I'm not really sure how to measure it, but I definitely get 2 hours or so less than when I first got it. Rather disappointing.

 

Maybe it just needs recalibration? Typically this is done by letting the battery drain until the laptop turns off (not just letting it go to sleep when it hits the low threshold) You could safely do this running something like memtest86+ (this is something you boot from a USB drive so Windows is not running at all), which would avoid the typical risks of doing a hard power down of a system, which is what will happen when the battery dies.

 

Thanks for the tip. I already recalibrated using tlp on linux (it forced a discharge of the battery until it reported 0% left), but something like memtest also seems like a good idea.

 

I think the t440s will switch to the internal battery when the external hits 5%. It might switch back to the external and drain that last little bit at some point though, not sure about that.

 

FYI I called in and they are going to send me a replacement. Batteries have a 1 yr warranty, and Lenovo Solution Center said that the battery was in poor condition.

I'm disappointed in the longevity of these batteries though. Mine wasn't used too heavily.. around 100 cycles on it. You would think that they could last at least a couple of years before needing replacement.

 

I don't think one battery, yours in this case, makes for a trend.

 

So, I wiped Windows 8.1 off my t440s yesterday, and went back to 7. Downloaded the latest drivers from Lenovo's site. And the strange thing is, the machine was terribly unstable this morning - it would boot up just fine (nice and quick off the SSD), then start refusing to load anything a few minutes in (otherwise seeming fine). I wiped the 17.13 7260AC driver from the machine (latest one), dug up a copy of 16.1.1.3, and it's happy as a clam now. Have Intel and Lenovo STILL not figured this out? (17.13 gave me the worst results yet. Never had the drivers cause complete system instability like that, just random drops and 802.11g-ish speeds on 802.11n APs.)

 

Well, I spoke too soon on that note. Having issues with wifi coming out of sleep, although 16.6.0.8 seems a little more stable (but speeds are crap). Those of you with a t440s and 7260AC on Windows 7, what driver are you using?


Edit: Apparently Intel came up out with a new driver today, 17.14 (wasn't there when I fought with the wifi card this morning). I installed that and so far it's good, rebooted, then let it run for an hour (some use) and it's still working nicely. The connection comes right back after resuming from sleep, I don't need to turn off power saving in device manager, and I'm getting ~140/85mbps on speedtests again (university 802.11n wifi FTW, though I've seen somewhat better speeds before). Of course, as soon as I say this, it'll read my mind and go berserk or something...

 

http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds034647

New drivers for the t440s touchpad!

 

Hi All, I have been reading this thread because I am thinking about either a T450s or an X1 Carbon 2015 sometime in the first half of 2015. But, I am surprised at the problems reported in this T440s thread and in the X1 threads. I wasn't expecting so many issues with the Thinkpad line.

At this time I am leaning toward the T450s because of the long battery life. The X1 seems to be more expensive for essentially the same features and has less battery life. (I want at least 7 hours with light duty use such as web, Email, card games, etc.)

Any advice or insight would be very much appreciated.

Best regards, Jim

 

Typically with notebooks you pay for weight savings, which is why the Carbon costs more, but for a lot of people who don't need long battery life, it's a worthwhile trade-off.

 

I am a SW developer for Web applications based on Java, MySQL, PlayFramework, Liferay etc. I am looking for a full day portable development machine
Will this be powerful enough for my programming needs?
Lenovo ThinkPad T440s 14"/i5-4210U/8 Gt/256 Gt SSD/4G/Windows 7 Pro 64-bit/Full HD

I think the laptop itself is perfect but I am a bit worried about ULV 1.7 GHz processor. Is it too slow for web development when I have IDE and many Chrome windows and Dev tools opened at the same time?

 

I get it, you want a perfect machine, but who doesn't?
Why T440s? Have you considered T440p? That one has options with more raw power... I personally would not get this CPU for my main dev machine.
PS: I still use W530 + external monitor + external keyboard.

 

I don't do dev stuff, but I do tend to leave lots of browser tabs open, and I run VMs. My t440s hasn't felt slow for me with the exception of gaming. 12GB RAM/SSD.

 

My workflow is similar. VM + IDE + Browser tools for testing. Works very well. Obviously, you'll get more bang for your buck with a T440p. Portability vs Power, figure out what you'll need more of.