T440s up on Lenovo website (IPS Screen, 1080p)

That's a pretty sweet laptop. Just saying....

Who can say the T440p looks better? Hell i'll still buy the lenovo since it has windows and is going to be cheaper, but why does it have to look like a bad plastic 1990's laptop.

EDIT: By 1990s i mean all the bezeling and plastic seams and moldings. I think we are at a stage where machining and tight tolerances are well within reach of these bigger companies. Heck, look at razer. Im sure a company as big as lenovo can design something cool as well. Google can do and dell had the ADAMO. And those were years ago. surely lenovo can bring some CNC machined case to market without charging a big premium like a razer. The razer 14 is 1799, which is a fair price to be honest.

But instead it looks like lenovo is just sitting on their asses and bringing forth generic looking molded hardware.

And yes, i know some people just want hardware in a plastic bag with a good keyboard. Clevo will always be there.

 

man that pricing is pretty decent. compared to the asus new ultrabooks and samsung. you say 500gb hdd. so what, these aren't ultrabooks? or are those hdds 2.5"?

 

Yeah, it seems like it will be the end of October. I was okay with it being October but hoping it would be early to mid-October but those online reports that came out on September 3 said end of October. And a Lenovo rep said "by October 29th." Then he even said it could even be later. Nothing we as consumers can do about it but wait. But just out of curiosity though, do companies release all their machines at the same time. All the reports were talking about the T440s/T440p and the X240/X240s and all said they would come out in October. They probably all won't be released the same day right?

 

I'm sure they'll all want to get out before the Macbook Pro's come out, whenever that is.

 

The ZBook has a dock connector on the side. T440s up to 12 GB RAM, ZBook 16 GB.

Full ZBook 14 specs here: http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/72760.pdf

 

Some nice comparison pictures of the T440s with the X220:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HhZy7uIzJZY/UjGitI9B8aI/AAAAAAAAA50/Pee_EDTubr4/s640/DSC_2308.JPG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SAoyj-YNdeQ/UjGikhOzZ9I/AAAAAAAAA5s/e7m-jpCjvGo/s640/DSC_2307.JPG
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mIvDn6H96Mk/UjGiT6m4dRI/AAAAAAAAA5c/_RvnbmBDhf8/s640/DSC_2303.JPG

 

ibmthink, when is yours arriving?

 

I don´t know. I hope next week. The T440s sells very well already in Germany, so there are some problems with the availability. At the moment, only a few units arrive every week.

 

Wow, those are great, although I wish the first one showed the same image on both screens. My i7 X220 with Intel's SSD is a seriously amazing machine-- incredibly fast and well-built, although the battery life has never lived up to the claims-- using the nine-cell and streaming a bunch of financial data [two programs at once] I typically get around 7.5 hours on wi-fi, which is only 50% of Lenovo's original claim of "up to 15 hours." However, with the T440s claiming "up to 17 hours" using the larger battery it will still be an improvement at only a tiny weight penalty (3.9 pounds vs. 3.6 for the X220 with the nine-cell) but the main reason I want to get it is for the much higher resolution display, as I typically have a number of windows open at the same time and the X220 is a real compromise that way.

By the way, my "in the office" machine is a W700DS... Man, I wish Lenovo would come out with an updated version of those!!!

 

I echo the sentiment about my i7 x220. The only complaint I have is about the battery life and T440s is a great improvement in that area.

For those wanting more power, I feel T440p is a better solution, and I am considering of getting one myself.

 

You can do a Crucial M4 512GB SSD for less than $300 these days easy. Same is true of 16GB DDR3 RAM for less than $80.

 

Thinkpads have a magnesium cage with plastic. It's an understated, robust, lightweight design that I'm generally happy with. Macbooks with their aluminium cases are heavier, and other designs, particularly the Dell Adamo with pointless fetish touches tend to be just tacky, though thankfully many manufactures by copying Apple are getting away from the cheesy designs. HP's ZBook sounds promising in that they advertise tool-less access, Thinkpads can be a bit nightmarish for some access.

I do agree that Lenovo does has a big problem with their rubber bumpers. In my experience they always come off. My x220t's trackpoint presses into the screen after the poorly designed bumpers and strain relief came off.

 

I can tell you that any claims of their max battery life will be with based on the CPU with the lowest speed and with a display that has the lowest resolution. Same with the t440s I guess.

I thought the Zbook is a workstation laptop but I guess I was wrong. If it is just comparing against T440s, I don't see this is better than the t440s unless you are talking about a dedicated GPU. I think this Zbook won't have the endurance of a t440s but given you need power more than battery life, I guess if you like this one, you should go for this one rather than the t440s. But I think you will be disappointed if you also compare this laptop with your dream laptop.

 

nice. cheers for that bro, like on amazon?

 

eBay. Tons of power sellers up there selling them. Current range is $240-315 depending upon auction end time of day and day of week. I've bought two in the last year. For my Sony Vaio S15 and the ThinkPad T430s respectively.

 

No, it's very hard to find a NEW decent 512gb ssd for less than $300. You usually don't want used/refurbished SSDs. The Crucial M4 is $400 on Amazon, and usually is around $350 on sale. The Samsung 840 EVO, which is very good, is $370. The regular 840 is $320 on Amazon.

If you wait until Black Friday, it is very possible that you can either get a Crucial or Samsung EVO for about $300.

 

That's what I thought. That is what I found also on amazon and the crucial websites for prices.

 

CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER

THIS IS RIDICULOUS

IF THESE LAPTOPS ARE BEING RELEASED IN OTHER PLACE, ASIA GERMANY SOME OTHERS, WHY ARE THEY STILL NOT AVAILABLE IN THE USA

HOW MUCH LONGER DO WE HAVE TO WAIT? NEW PRODUCTS SHOULD BE RELEASED IN THE USA BEFORE ALL OTHER COUNTRIES THIS IS RIDUCLOUS. NOW PEOPLE ARE SAYING OCTOBER? AS IN YOU WOULDN'T EVEN ACTUALLY GET IT UNTIL NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER?

LENOVO enough is ENOUGH RELEASE THIS LAPTOP IN THE USA NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I "NEED" this laptop as much than the next person But the official Lenovo release says end of October. And since Lenovo is the one making the laptop I don't think it matters what "people" say. So to answer your first question, they are not available in the USA because they were not/are not meant to be until October. And currently we are in the month of September.

Basically your post (with the use of caps and bold) is obnoxious but above all premature.

I would suggest retying your post in November in that case that the laptops are not released. And I will jump on the release-the-laptop- now bandwagon. Until then.....

P.S When you go to the German Lenovo website it says that the T440s is coming soon. I thought the only German folks who got it were students, through their school. So consumers are not really getting it. Aren't some Lenovo(and other company) models like (S430) or configurations(graphic cards) of laptops only available in certain regions?

Aren't the Lenovos built in Asia to begin with so them having it before us.... might... make ...sense.?

 

"Enough is enough"? Sigh, just a frigging notebook.

 

"Enough is enough"

I wonder which effects such post will have on Lenovo... Maybe the Lenovo guys will have an psychologic brakedown when they read this...

I think this post is misplaced here. It should be in the official Lenovo Forum.

 

Uhm, is the USA better than other countries or why should they receive the shipments first? Lenovo has only released campus models in some countries, so all you can buy at the moment are limited configurations, reserved for students only.

 

Ah good old 'American exceptionalism' at work here

 

Yeah but you have to admit this that post was really extreme considering we are talking about a "friggin notebooks" as Kaso put it.

 

But it is important also to other regions of the world. Notebooks from USA are cheap (we have our ways to get them to Europe without VAT or duty ) and have normal keyboard layout. And the price difference is really huge. Let's take t431s as an example. In Poland the cheapest version costs 4820 PLN, in US it is $960=3030 PLN (with 3-year warranty, as it is offered by default in Poland).
The sooner it is available in US, the sooner will we be able to get it in nice price in Europe

 

Their S seires has a aluminium lid which I think could have been CNC or it might have been molded. Anyways, you are more likely to dent an aluminium notebook in a drop then a plastic notebook which would just bounce or absorb the force without denting. I actually prefer the T440s because it is also not made of plastic but carbon fiber which I think is the best. The T440s also has a thin bezel.

 

In the review of the T431s, notebookcheck said that the chassis flexed a bit. Hopefully they took care of that.

 

Disagree wholeheartedly. There's 115 on eBay right now, 105 of which are NIB, 104 "Buy it Now's" in the $310-345.00 range. And, as per previous, if you're patient, time it right (e.g. - expiring Sunday night on a holiday weekend), $250 +/- $20 is not infrequent. Not infrequent enough that if I cared to further repudiate I'd go back through my deleted items folder for eBay searches, but I know of what I speak as I've been watching (and buying) them on eBay for months, having bought most of our computer hardware and software up there for the past 14 years.

Not schilling, just saying that once you learn the "in's" and "out's" up there it's a very viable and attractive opportunity for hardware purchases, including every ThinkPad listed in my signature.

 

Thought is incorrect.

 

What about non-Ebay purchases. I don't consider a Ebay a regular store. I consider it an auction site. Meaning hit or miss. I also can't use Ebay for other reasons. Have you found those 512GB ssds on sites such as amazon, newegg or any other store sites?

 

Not exactly sure what you were getting at. Meant to say "that is what I thought/that is what I found also."
But I edited the post so check back up and comment again?

 

nice boys nice. I'll be all over that. it's officially on my calendar to remind me xD

 

can't edit my post to put this in because of useless work pc and no updates with no access to update...
so what, those hdds on ebay aren't replicas or reburbishes?

Disagree wholeheartedly. There's 115 on eBay right now, 105 of which are NIB, 104 "Buy it Now's" in the $310-345.00 range. And, as per previous, if you're patient, time it right (e.g. - expiring Sunday night on a holiday weekend), $250 +/- $20 is not infrequent. Not infrequent enough that if I cared to further repudiate I'd go back through my deleted items folder for eBay searches, but I know of what I speak as I've been watching (and buying) them on eBay for months, having bought most of our computer hardware and software up there for the past 14 years.

Not schilling, just saying that once you learn the "in's" and "out's" up there it's a very viable and attractive opportunity for hardware purchases, including every ThinkPad listed in my signature.

 

No, the ones he are talking about are ALWAYS used/refurbished (unless he somehow found new ones, which I have never seen for that price). You usually don't want to buy used SSDs, unless you have nothing to do other than check Ebay constantly and can't afford the extra thirty bucks.

 

As long as it's a reliable model I've got no problems with used ones. I've had a bunch of Intel ones.

 

That's quite true. However, I think that the warranty is worth the extra cost for a new SSD, which are always more reliable than used ones.

 

Considering the low failure rate of good ones like Intel and Samsung, the warranty is worth nothing. There's another forum where people endurance test ssd's. The Samsung 830 is past 6000 TB and still going.

 

I'll take what I've been given into consideration. cheers guys.

so I was watching the clip below. towards the end on that standard battery. how long does that standard batter and built in battery last, 4-6 hours on average? not quite as slim as ultrabooks and having to carry around that larger battery pack means going to the gym will have paid off.

but it's still looking to be my first ultrabook opposed to the others coming out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh70cJUTsgw

what I really like is the sim card and 3G, bloody great. no hotspotting with your phone

 

I myself don't consider eBay hit or miss, just an exercise in patience.

As far as on-line store sites, put it on your Wish List on NewEgg and eventually they'll send you a 10-15% coupon for it. They always, inevitably do, but it's usually a waiting game to see who can outlast the other.

 

95% plus are NIB.

 

No, they are not "ALWAYS" used or refurbished. The vast majority are NIB and free shipping (particularly for the "Buy it Nows").

Read my original response again, then go look for yourself. Servers, notebooks, memory, hard drives, software - I own my own company and have been buying all of our stuff up there for 14 years for (usually) 40-60% off retail. Again, an exercise in patience and knowing best times to purchase. Example - my T430s I bought up there last October for $846 NIB with three year-warranty. It came OOTB with 8GB RAM and a 320GB hard drive. The 512GB Crucial M4 SSD I put it in I bought for $310 the prior June. Second one I bought in September was for $345. Last one I just bought last month was for $260 after waiting and watching. All NIB. Just don't buy from anyone with a low rating or negative feedback, then wait for someone to post one expiring in the middle of the night on a weekend or holiday. And snipe, snipe, snipe.

 

1) They're not used per my other responses, but do agree with others' replies regarding SSD quality these days, 2) they're called "watch lists," "notifications" and "automated sniping tools" like AuctionSniper. I decide what I'm willing to pay, which auction(s) I'm going to after, chase, then I put a snipe on it and let it do it's thing whenever, 3) I can afford the extra $30, but didn't get my company to it's current state of success and profitability without minding the $$$, even down to the nickels and dimes. [shrug]

 

Okay, to complicate this thread further, will Broadwell be a significant improvement over Haswell? I just read this morning that Intel will be rolling out Broadwell by the end of this year; could Lenovo be doing a Broadwell refresh as soon as this spring, and if so, would it be worth waiting for?

 

The 2014 rumours are only for desktops CPU. Intel never does 6mth releases anyways. Haswell just came out on laptops and you are thinking about Broadwell?! With that thinking you might as well think about the successor for Broadwell supposedly called Skylake? Each new generation will be an improvement to the last one. You can't wait forever man.

 

I know I can't wait "forever" but in my particular case (I love my X220 except for the smallish screen), I could wait six months. I'm more interested in learning if this is now a series of diminishing returns; i.e., how much better in the real world will Broadwell be than Haswell? Is the battery life problem at this point overwhelmingly due to the screen and not the processor?

 

Well no one knows if it will be launched in 6 months time. So if you still love your X220 and can wait 6mths +, then go for it. I think battery life has always been the screen and not the processor (assuming you aren't playing games)...

 

Broadwell will be out in about 9 months for ThinkPads, the successor to the T440s will arrive mid 2014.

 

Pardon me if I don't hold my breath on that one.

 

Well, I have the roadmaps here. I could tell you the hole lineup for the first half of the next year (but I am not allowed to, I posted them once and I had to delete the slides).

 

I think Haswell was a big update (Intel calls is a "tock") while Broadwell will not be as significant (Intel calls it a "tick"). Personally, I prefer to buy on the "tocks" if I can.
Intel Tick-Tock