T440s up on Lenovo website (IPS Screen, 1080p)

Can one assume that since the T440s has the low voltage processors and soldered RAM with one expansion slot, the regular one might be similar to the T430. That it may have full powered CPUs and at least 2 DIMM slots along with a discrete graphics card. If the weight is under 4.5 lbs. for the regular T440 and is not much bulkier, then it would be good. Also, I am going to assume the p version will have the Quad-core CPUs along with 4 DIMM slots. I cannot confirm any of this so if you guys know any better please correct me.

 

Wow, great find.

Core i5-4200U (Up to 2.6GHz, 3MB L3, 1600MHz front side bus)
Wilkins Peak 2 AC? Awesome - integrated 802.11ac support will be killer future proofing. I was worried about that.
Option for an integrated 16GB dedicated mSATA SSD cache? Interesting...
Max 12GB RAM, with 4GB soldered and 8GB stick.
"Video chipset for discrete Gfx model: Nvidia N14M-GS" -- don't know anything about this chipset...
Yay, iPad charging on USB port with 2.1A power output...
"LED Status indicators" on the keyboard, looks like they're on the F1 (volume) and F4 (mic) keys, also on Fn/Fn Lock key. No HD indicator light :-(

Lots of great stuff in there, can't help but get a bit excited. Please please, Lenovo, get this right!

 

Geforce GT 730M...or perhaps a Quadro equivalent.

 

So this confirms 12GB max RAM. That's really the only disappointing spec for me. I love the FHD IPS LCD. I've been waiting a long time for Lenovo to improve the ThinkPad screen. But I have 16GB RAM in my T420s. With only a 4GB soldered option, this is going backwards for me. If Lenovo is listening, please provide an 8GB soldered RAM option!

 

Agreed - with growth in virtualization in an enterprise environment, an extra 4GB of RAM can make a huge difference. I had a bunch of sales engineering colleagues with their laptops configured as "virtual datacenters" to demo various security software. Lots of developers virtualize a bunch of servers/OSes to for testing. With OSes getting so big, you ideally need 3-4GB per VM.

Not a consumer use case though, that's for sure (though sometimes it feels like Firefox needs 16GB ;-) ). Maybe the presumably beefier T440 will have this option.

I'd think if this was an option on the T440s it would be listed in the service guide. It covers a lot of other optional components, and an 8GB soldered option was definitely not in there.

 

Haven't seen a single spec on any Haswell unit so far that offers anything more than that 4GB stick on the soldered slot. DIMMs are the same size, is that $20 difference between a 4GB stick and an 8GB one that important to the vendors, manufacturers?

 

I'd pay whatever it costs, $100 if needs be. I usually upgrade my own RAM. If soldered parts is the cost of thinner and lighter, there needs to at least be the option to opt for the larger capacity part when purchasing. They have to make an 8GB soldered chip. It's 2013!

At least I can put my 512GB SSD in this.

 

i hope the t440 is close to the t430s in terms of size, but this looks like a really good laptop.

 

It says the external battery can be 3 or 6-cell! First mention of that I've seen. I guess the 6-cell will stick out the back and make the laptop even heavier...

I agree with others here that 12 GB max RAM is a huge error on Lenovo's part. RAM is cheap, so being limited to less than 16 GB is frustrating.

I'm still looking for opinions on whether the M.2 slot will allow for full (rather than caching) SSDs to turn this into a true two-spindle (two-drive) machine...

 

Hope this soldered ram it's not the same of asus tranformer book. That gives 5.9 (max 9.9) in Windows 8.

 

By any chance do you have a idea of when it might be available?

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My T420s with 16GB DDR3 1333MHz gets a 7.5 in Windows 8. My Haswell HTPC with 16GB DDR3 1600MHz gets a 7.8 in Windows 7. The T440s will have DDR3 1600MHz, so should be around 7.8.

 

No idea, it hasn't even been officially announced yet. The disclosure on the web site seems to have been inadvertent, since it was pulled down.

I'm surprised that the Service Videos are publicly available (you can see the course listed right on the Lenovo Partner Portal | Lenovo Service Training site, under "New Courses" on the right side).

I really don't know what to think about the fact that the T440s information is available, but nothing on the rumored T440 or T440p. Will these other systems be available later? Announced separately? Did Lenovo just figure that the T440s info was already out there so why not publish the service guide?

Strange...

 

According to those training docs, AMD discrete graphics is an option.
Now... just need the cost + shipping date.

 

Not for Lenovo. It isn't the first time they have "inadvertently" placed information in public view. It's a great public relations and marketing tactic.

The real question is when they'll start sending units to reviewers. That is likely next.

 

does amd have switchable graphics now or is it still just discrete?

 

According to the service training for the model, the T440s is only going to be offered with the Haswell i5-4200U. That seems oddly strange...no i7 options?? I actually went ahead and ordered the T431s, just to see if I like the size of the unit being that they share the same shell, with the only differences basically being the removable battery, Haswell, and the screen. If I like the feel of this, then I will know for sure whether to get the T440s when it arrives. I wish they would go ahead and release it already. It seems to me they aren't playing their cards right being that mass colleges and students are in need of a laptop now, why wait til it has started...?

 

I don't think this is a great marketing tactic at all as they've basically killed demand for their T431s. What's worse is that buyers that have recently purchased the T431s will now consider returning it.

Read about how Tom Osborne (the first laptop maker) essentially killed his company by pre-announcing future models. Osborne effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Personally, I'm happy to have learned about the T440s as I was considering a T431s but now will wait.

 

Are you able to return the T431s without a restocking fee?

Would be great to test out new notebooks but Lenovo has become stricter on returns (which I agree is acceptable within reason as it drives up the cost for everyone)

 

The only circumstance where I've heard of Lenovo occasionally waiving the restocking fee for the return of an opened, working product is when you talk to a representative over the phone and arrange to buy a more expensive variant or different model.

 

Some "Real-Life" Pictures of the T440s: ŽÊ^‚ÅŒ©‚éuThinkPad T440sv‚ƁuThinkVision LT1423pv (1/2) - ITmedia PC USER

 

You can return any order placed in July without a restocking fee with no questions asked. It is on the header of the website. They occaisionally run this promotion.

 

I bought a Y410s about a week ago and was told that I could return it with no restocking fee.

 

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Shocking news!!
Following the announcement by Lenovo Japan, it looks like T440s doesn't have an IPS screen.
This is really frustrating.

 

TRANSLATED:

The "ThinkPad T440s", a series of high-performance-oriented and professional / prosumer for 14 type size. Revamped the specifications of the Core processors fourth generation as well as ThinkPad X240s, the design change to a thin body. This is also a specification to meet the Ultrabook by Intel determined by configuration.

Plan to publish in late August 2013 the main specification. The 17th of July 2013,
• Haswell of / fourth generation Core processor-based
• It is equipped with a liquid crystal display of 14-inch wide
• Resolution (fall 2013) and plans to add the option of 1920 × 1080 dots + Touch Panel 1600 × 900 dots, and later on 1920 × 1080 dots standard
• In addition to the CPU integration, external GPU configurations also selectable graphics
• Thickness is about 8.1 mm
• vPro support
• Main memory up to 12G bytes (4G bytes onboard +2 G bytes to maximum 8G bytes)
• Storage, select HDD, SSD, OPAL support HDD, SSD support from OPAL
• (Power-off charging support), wired LAN, analog RGB, Mini-DisplayPort, 720pWeb camera, multi-memory card reader, smart card reader, in the face, such as docking connector USB 3.0 × 2, USB 2.0 × 1
• No optical drive
• Keyboard 6 column Pureshijishon, pointing device 5 button click pad of equivalent X240s
• Battery, Class 10 hours or more W specification 6-cell + 3 cell removable built-in

Specification that was published. Other specification will be published in late August 2013.

 

I don't see anything there that indicates it is not an IPS panel. Unless you are referring to where it says, "It is equipped with a liquid crystal display of 14-inch wide ". In which case, IPS is a form of technology used for LCD displays, which I am assuming from their previous web announcement will be replacing the TN panels. It is also a rough translation, was it Google translated? I believe I saw that same page that was linked earlier. What bothers me more is it is implying an official announcement in August, which suggests that this Thinkpad will not be released until September. If that is the case I'm very ticked off. They need to just get on with it already and release it.

 

error: replied to wrong post.

 

Blargh, screen is glossy: ŽÊ^‚ÅŒ©‚éuThinkPad T440sv‚ƁuThinkVision LT1423pv - ITmedia PC USER

 

There is only one 14" 1080p ips, so it is as expected.

 

Battery: "Internal 3-cell polymer, External 3-cell or 6-cell polymer"

Does this mean there's a maximum of 9-cell battery? For a whooping 18 hours of endurance?

But I do not believe the battery will stick out the back as it will get in the way of the screen.

But disappointment on the non-IPS an/or glosy screen

 

I doubt they will have a 9 cell battery. The specification sheet from the FRU servicing indicated an internal 3 cell and an external 3 cell. Total of 6 cell with both, but you are using an ultra low voltage processor, you should get around 8-10 hours of use with it. I wouldn't worry about the glossy screen in the photos, a lot of the pre-production models have the glossy on them before they go into production. The laptop will have an anti-glare coating on both screens by all indications. I am anxious to see how well they have implemented everything.

 

If you translate the original article by ITmedia, Japan (link above), the reporter clearly mentioned that

"Liquid crystal display in the 14-inch wide, I adopt a TN panel."

I've waited an IPS screen in 14" t-series so long, but this could be a bad sign.

 

Total of 9-cell between the two batteries is how that's phrased and the service video backs it up. It shows a (thick) extended battery that sticks out the bottom. Finally a normal battery position in this model, allowing extended batteries.

This notebook is really quickly turning into a 'halo' product that can do everything in a light and compact package.

 

I may be blind, but I can't seem to find the T440s mentioned at all within the link posted in the OP?

Has it been removed? Excuse my ignorance.

 

Yes, it was removed but I've found a workaround -- watch out this post by me few pages ago http://forum.notebookreview.com/len...o-website-ips-screen-1080p-6.html#post9278272

...and in this post you might find a bunch of promo shots of T440s http://forum.notebookreview.com/len...o-website-ips-screen-1080p-6.html#post9278241

 

900p TN, 1080p IPS and touch 1080p option in fall 2013.

Doubt lenovo will "special order" 14" 1080p TN or 900p IPS.

 

^wait, is that mean only 1080p screen that will use IPS panel?

Btw, you're hot

 

I don't understand why Lenovo continues to use a proprietary connector for their docks. They should just transition all of their laptops to use their USB 3.0 base docks just like with their X1.

I'm leaning on getting the T440s, but I'm holding out that the X1's successor will have the 1080p screen and similar specs and in a lighter package.

 

I hope they will not. Just compare USB 3.0 Dock against other expansion solutions available through their docking port at this slide ŽÊ^‚ÅŒ©‚éuThinkPad T440sv‚ƁuThinkVision LT1423pv - ITmedia PC USER -- USB docking is somewhere in the middle between Basic and Pro and miles away from Ultra Dock. I believe, single USB 3.0 port simply won't drive all of those expansion options, especially several 4K monitors.

As well as docking usability: its simply easier to drop the laptop onto the dock and get everything working from the power supply rather than trying to plug power cord and then attaching USB cable...

In other words, USB docking provides less features and requires more steps from you.

 

The UK page for the T440s says IPS panel. It also says 5th generation Intel CPU, so take it with a pinch of salt

http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/thinkpad/t-series/t440s/index.html

 

+1

At work I have a T430 with loads of stuff plugged into the dock (3 monitors, loads of USB devices, GigE LAN), and also not sure a single USB3 port could provide the bandwidth for this. Additionally, being able to just pull the laptop out the dock (and not have to unplug a USB cable and power cable) each time I go to a meeting is definitely a plus.

 

Interesting that it IS on the page!

I think this laptop is going to be quite expensive (and heavy) once the desirable options are added... 1080p screen, your own 8 GB DIMM, 802.11ac WiFi, external battery, your own M.2 SSD...

I'm disappointed about the size and weight; the MacBook Air has a similarly sized LCD (because it's 16:10,) and 12h battery life, yet it's significantly lighter and smaller. Perhaps not a fair comparison since it's in a different class, but still, Lenovo could do better...

 

why are people arguing it wont have IPS based on some poorly translated pages from some no name websites?

the original product page in the OP said both options will be IPS so thats all the proof we need.

 

Same thing happened last year with the X1C and T430u both. I suspect this is not new.

 

Define heavy? 3.6 pounds is heavy? Ram you buy on your own right?

 

For the ones who found delight on fingerprint reader:
T440s can't be started with fingerprint? - Lenovo Community

 

I do think 3.5 or 3.6 lbs is heavy because with the external battery the T440s will weigh more than my three-year-old T410s, but with a smaller (16:9) LCD and no UltraBay. Also heavy compared to ultrabooks from Apple, Sony, and others.

I wrote "your own" RAM since that's much cheaper than Lenovo's upgrades.

 

Just a quick question on this one. Do we know if it has a backlit keyboard?

 

On the uk page page it says: "Optional backlight"
https://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/thinkpad/t-series/t440s/index.html