T440s up on Lenovo website (IPS Screen, 1080p)

Beware being drawn into marketing hype IMO. Read carefully and HP says it is "designed to meet" Mil-Std-810G, which means that they might never have actually tested it, let alone allowed an independent testing lab to verify that it actually meets those standards. In other words it's nothing but marketing BS. Compare with Panasonic, which actually performs tests and allows an independent lab to perform tests on its Toughbooks. Panasonic actually says some Toughbook models are only certified to survive a 1-foot drop. However, I think any Toughbook is gonna be tougher than some pretty-pretty HP piece of plastic.

http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/why-shock-resitant-laptops.asp

Not that I'm defending the T440s... I don't have one and I, too, wonder how well the new design stacks up with the old in terms of toughness. It certainly looks less rugged, not that I'm on the habit of dropping my T420.

 

If you're going to drop your laptop, better get an accidental damage warranty, because the computer will be damaged if you drop it, no matter what HP/Lenovo claims...

 

Will do as soon as I get it =]

I have ordered 3cell + 6cell though, since I travel a lot. I intend to buy additional 3cell later.

 

This is a student machine in Hong Kong, I get it for about HKD$8k3

 

I am a trackpoint user for years, but the clickpad on t440s is so good that i couldn't disable it.
IMO, it is better than apple, but many features are copied from apple.

 

What's thar slow/fast slider for?

 

Not to alarm all of you waiting for the IPS screen. The T440s is now released here in Hong Kong. Surprise, surprise, it is not an IPS screen. Before anyone says I am looking at a fake sold in a dingy corner store, this is actually Lenovo's own shop. One of 3 flagship retail store they have here.

It took me only 2 seconds looking the the demo unit to noticed the screen looks bad. Never mind IPS, it looks bad even for a TN screen. Then I asked the sales person and he confirmed that it is NOT an IPS screen. I can't believe it and took a look at it in an oblique angle. May be 75/80 degree off center axis With a T431i on one side, X240 (with IPS) in the middle and T440s on the other side. You can tell immediately that the X240 is the only one with the wide viewing angle and the sharp color.

Now, if you go on the Lenovo Hong Kong site, it definitely says it is HD+ or FHD IPS in the feature list. Even though there is no Tech Spec section up on that page yet. May be when the tech spec is finally up, it will say Lenovo will be selling IPS and non-IPS versions. But, at $1500 USD+ ($11880 HKD), and not even a good quality TN screen is ridiculous.

I waited a year bypassing the Samsung Series 9 because I didn't like the keyboard and the X1Carbon because of the poor quality screen to arrive here. This is very disappointing.

 

may be i got a jackpot, mine look really great
FHD and excellence viewing angle

 

I thought technically it was AHVA, not IPS (though the Lenovo site says it is IPS). Regardless, I think you're the only person so far who says they don't like the screen, but even then only a few people have gotten to see it so I guess we'll have to see as more units get into people's hands. Personally my HP Envy 14 has a TN panel but it's still a really nice screen (I've heard some say that the Radiance screens were actually the best TN panels ever made but the company that made them went out of business or something). I think for a lot of people at the least it'll be significantly better than what Lenovo usually has put in their 14" laptops so most people will be fine with it.

 

The spec sheets show that the

HD+ displays are: 1600x900, 250nits, 400:1 contrast, (non-IPS)
FHD displays are: 1920x1080, 300nits, 700:1 contrast, IPS

If you want a good quality display, I think you really want a FHD display, not a HD+.

 

Maybe sb imagine would it be possible and how hard would it be to change the screen from Hd+ to FHD? And this would void the warranty I guess?

 

If the depot caught on to that fact, yes, the warranty would be voided.

 

. delete .

 

In the German Forum, somebody lately discovered that only the warranty on the screen would be voided, not on the entire Notebook if the screen is changed. But I don´t know if this is true.

 

Video from Lenovo Czech

Lenovo ThinkPad T440s - první pohled (Lenovo Blog CZ) - YouTube

That's a lot of keyboard and palmrest flex at 3:50.

 

Seriously? Thats nearly nothing. Every model I have had before had more keyboard flex and palmrest-flex compared with the T440s.

And this guy presses really hard.

Just compare it with the T430 and the T430u videos from the same guy:
T430: Lenovo ThinkPad T430 (Lenovo Blog CZ) - YouTube
T430u: Lenovo ThinkPad T430u -

A bit more flex on the T430, and a A LOT more flex on the T430u (which is also my experince).

If you type with a normal pressure, there is no flex (and even with a bit more pressure, there is no flex). Only with extreme pressure there is a very minimal flex. The same goes for the palmrest.

 

Anybody using Intel Amt / vPro? Since the 4200U comes without them, thinking what I may lose. Ty

 

The keyboard flex seems similar between the T430 and T440s, but there is a ton of flex in the palmrests, same as what I saw in the T431s I handled. Much more than the T430. The keyboard in the T430 I had last week wasn't as good as my X220. A huge radius around the middle of the keyboard felt hollow compared to my X220. Since it's been a long time since I've used a T420 I don't know if it's down to the newer keyboards or the X220/X230 vs. T420/T430 construction.

T430u is produced and marketed as a budget Thinkpad without any pretense.

 

Maybe this is a stupid question... but in t440p disassembly videos it shows how to remove the microprocessor. Does it mean I can upgrade it? From 4200m to 4600m or even quad core?

http://lenovoservicetraining.com/content/CourseWarePublic/22088/player.html

 

Well, no user of the T440s has complained yet about Plamrest flex. And I would say there is none, at least on my model - maybe I can make a short video of that next week. What you can see there is likely because of the pressure, absorbtion of the rubber feet, but not palmrest flex, as it is "flexing" where the ruber feets are. The palmrest itself is rocksolid.

P.S: Isn´t the X220 the model with this problem:

Yes, of course. The CPU can be upgraded / replaced. The CPU is sitting in a socket.

 

I can even upgrade from a dual core to quad core? with only that one chip? and everything will work? really? thats amazing

 

Yes, that should be possible. But I don´t know if there are different fans or heatsinks for quad-core and dual-core.

 

Don't get defensive, I'm be ordering the T440s. If it's the rubber feet, that's great. Looking at the video again, that does seem to be partially responsible.

The extreme edge of the X220 palmrest does flex because there's nothing underneath, but even less than an inch inward it's pretty solid.

Perhaps I need to stop comparing T-series with my X220, because I haven't used anything that's nearly as solid, including the keyboard. The T430 wasn't as good either. The team that did the X220/230 base structure hit it out of the park.

 

delete, old info

 

I highly doubt you could upgrade to a quad core, the heat dissipation is just going to be way higher. Not sure if the sockets are the same anyway, they might not be.

 

""
Video from Lenovo Czech
Lenovo ThinkPad T440s - první pohled (Lenovo Blog CZ) - YouTube
That's a lot of keyboard and palmrest flex at 3:50.
""
FYI: my poor translation
the flex of palmrest is no existent, and i try to press really hard
the flex of keyboard is best of all thinkpads from last years

 

Anyone else tempted by the Yoga 2 Pro? Best Buy has i7, 8gb, 256gb SSD for just $1200.

 

We don't have that deal in Canada, but I would be very close to purchasing that laptop if it were...
Though, I'm really deciding more between the T440s and the Thinkpad Yoga personally.

 

I did went to Best Buy to check Yoga 2 out this morning. The screen is beautiful, but the keyboard is not as good as those of thinkpads.

 

Refurbished 15.4-inch MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-core Intel i7 with Retina Display - Apple Store (U.S.)

Personally, I'm tempted by this. I'll make a decision between the t440s and this deal after 1) Apple's keynote on Tuesday and 2) seeing how much the FHD costs on the t440s. The t440s is starting to feel uncomfortably expensive, even if I upgrade on my own. I started looking into non-retina-macbook options because I didn't want to pay a premium, but now I'm starting to feel the t440s may not be the best value.

Does anyone have any insights / opinions on the new l540? Hard to find any videos or coverage of it online, but the 15.4 inch FHD seems nice. But is it low quality, as it is non-IPS? Obviously it's not an ultrabook, but the price is hard to beat. And it's available to order now. Worried that I won't be getting my hands on the t440s until late November / early December, when I could have a retina macbook pro in less than a week, for only ~$200 more, with better specs.

 

The Topseller model 20AQ004KUS is looking like a nice one to build a system on (I7, FHD+MT, 4GB, 128GB SSD). It seems like most of the resellers currently have in their books in the $1620 - $1670 range. (of course not yet in stock) Add memory and SSD of your choice.

 

That would suck for me if I can't find a way to get it to work. Not many devices use M.2 WLAN. I guess, I can always return it.

 

I recently installed an Intel 7260-AC card in my Lenovo E520. It does require a modified bios, however it wasn't too hard to come across one: [REQUEST] Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E520 Whitelist removal

I'm enjoying a 867 Mbps connection at the library!

They appear helpful on that site so it should be possible to upgrade your WLAN (just unofficially).

 

Screen is fantasmic but the keyboard is absolute rubbish and I can't imagine getting actual work done on this...I'd end up watching youtube and surfing the net in 'tablet mode,' which is so amazing that I can't imagine a single person, not even Steve Balmer, would actually buy the Surface 2 Pro over the Yoga 2 Pro. They could easily sell me on it if it had 1-2mm greater thickness, all of which would be for key travel

 

Hmm, I wonder how bad a Lenovo keyboard can be. Even the Ideapad keyboards I've tried were amazing, but the lack of depth is hard to get around.

 

I was thinking about t440s/t440p/l440 but this came along. Probook G1 640. Full voltage, 2.5cm, FullHD, graphics card, much cheaper, linux, battery up to 100Wh http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/14688_div/14688_div.PDF

 

I thought there were two different FHD screens.

S

 

No, there is just one, the AUO B140HAN01.2.

 

Channel5 never explicitly said he saw a FHD screen, it's quite possible he saw the HD+ screen which I'm sure sucks and is not IPS.

 

This is an awesome price for the spec The Hong Kong Polytechnic University - Notebook Ownership Program 2013
Look forward to the t440s becoming available in Australia (though dreading the Australian markup)...

 

I'm really starting to hate how long this is taking to become available in the US region. We've known about it for months now and I still don't know if it'll be avail. at the end of October or late December? Really puts a crimp on my purchasing plans. Wonder what the new 13" rMBP will have in store..

Also, anyone with the t440s currently, how difficult is it to use the trackpad for cursor movement and *not* press it down for a click? I can see myself trying to use multitouch for web browsing and accidentally using too much pressure and having it register a 'click.' Any input?

 

Well, this is no problem. You have to really press a bit more to click. Normal cursor movement can be done without accidental clicks, as well as Multitouch-gestures or two-finger scrolling.

 

For those hoping Windows 8.1 would improve the mediocre T440s battery life, fuhgeddaboudit!
AnandTech | Sony VAIO Pro 13 Battery Life with Windows 8.1: Largely Unchanged

 

Just got my 20AR0018US today. The LCD is pretty awesome. Surprised that the 256GB SSD is a Samsung 840 Pro! Windows identifies it as MZ7TD256HAFV-000L9 which is apparently also used on the S440. A bit disappointed by the travel in the trackpad. Will have to see whether it grows on me.

 

Nice to hear about the SSD! =P

 

A bit of googling leads me to believe that MZ7TD256HAFV is Samsung 840 (not Pro). The Pro would be identified by MZ7PD256HAFV (P instead of T).

 

seems like samsung 840 w/o pro available only in 240gb (not a 256gb) version
so it can't be non pro model

 

I think the labeling is just inconsistent for size, because SSDs have some space reserved for wear leveling or something so it may either advertise the accessible space or the total space (I've definitely seen this on previous Samsung SSDs where the same device was listed with two different sizes).

 

The one I was looking at was definitely HD+, not FHD. I just wasn't aware of the specs sheet that vancamp referred to that says HD+ is non-IPS and FHD is ISP. All marketing blubs I have seen from Lenovo so far doesn't make that distinction.

So, I will refer judgement until I see the FHD version on the shelf.

 

Yes, the HD+ is the old Lenovo POS, while the FHD is supposed to be much improved.