T440s up on Lenovo website (IPS Screen, 1080p)

Not bad, thanks. I've managed to make do with 12GB on my desktop for a few years now, that'll definitely be enough for my laptop. Sounds like this is the one for me

 

On that note, does the 4GB configuration come with 4GB soldered in and a freed up dimm slot? If so, it should be super easy to just buy an 8 gig dimm and pop it in later.

 

There's no planned successor to the S431, right? If it just had Haswell and a FHD touchscreen it'd be everything I'm looking for.

Nevermind, I just discovered the S440. Wow, what a disappointment.

 

Does anyone plan on actually buying this when it releases, without any discount. I'm wondering how long before they actually apply any of the normal coupons, maybe Black Friday.

 

If I'm correct, a few people from Germany usually read this thread. Maybe you know if this is a good, trusty shop to buy a notebook? I'm planning to buy a notebook after t440p hits the market and only a few shops ship to foreign countries.

Lapstars

 

FAQ (UK) - Frequentliy Asked Questions - ok2.de

 

I need offers for students, which they don't have unfortunately.

 

Then ok1 - Lenovo Campus Shop für Lehre und Forschung

 

Thanks dj_fle. I also found a thread about lapstars.de, and the experiences were all positive.

 

Hi Friends

the t440 is now on the Australian lenovo page.....before the USA would you believe!!!
High Performance Laptops | ThinkPad T Series | Lenovo Australia

But they are saying it is the T440 Ultrabook... but that would not be a ultrabook as the t440 s is an ultrabook - the t440 is just a laptop.

They think they can fool me!!

 

Do you have the external 3 cell as well? or just the internal 3 and a 6?
i'm wondering how much time it lasts with the 3+3

 

No, they are right, the T440 without s is also an Ultrabook.

 

LinuxGuy, check the benchmark HERE. This is with the slowest processor, a worse screen and 4GB of ram, so the battery life should be a little worse with a better configuration.

 

I have a question since there is 4Gb RAM soldered:
Is it worth upgrading to 12Gb, would it use dual channel? Or is it better to use 2x4Gb?

 

ok fine... but it is still just so thick....

 

It'll use dual-channel. I vaguely remember something about it using a different mode of dual-channel, but it's still dual.

 

Asymmetric dual channel.

 

t440s can max out at 16gb of ram correct?

 

No, the maximum of the T440s is 12 GB (4 GB soldered + one DIMM slot with 8 GB).

 

As always we do not have the best prices in Poland.. pre order price list

Lenovo / IBM - ThinkPad - ThinkPad T - ThinkPad T440s :: kuzniewski.pl


the most expensive version ~2224 euro

T440s 20AR0015PB124G - Core i7 4600U / 14,1 Full HD / 12288 / 1016 (16 M.2 SSD + 1000 SSD) / Intel HD 4400 /


16 M.2 SSD + 1000 SSD - this is interesting ...

 

according to some of lenovo specsheet 4GB soldered only on i7 models
but psref says that there are i3\i5\i7 in both configs
it's still not clear, is it 4GB preinstalled always soldered, on you can get only 1DIMM with RAM module installed and nothing soldered, so it will be upgradebale up to 8GB

if you get two different memory modules installed it gonna work in Flex memory mode http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/cs-011965.htm#flex

 

T440: Maximum 8 GB of RAM, and 12 GB on i7-models (since only them have 4 GB soldered)
T440s: Maximum 12 GB on all models (all models have 4 GB soldered)

 

What on earth are you talking about, its almost the same as the T440s. Both list a maximum depth of 21mm on Lenovo's site.

 

Excited to report that...

the formatting on Lenovo's US site has changed to include a space for the different model configurations, and includes tech specs! The notify me button is also gone.

Tuesday is looking good.

ThinkPad T440s Ultrabook Laptop | Lenovo | Lenovo (US)

 

With the X240 now up for sale on lenovo.com - is the X240 more or less the same as the T440S except with smaller screen and better battery life?

Trying to decide between the two ...

 

Regarding the current Lenovo.com configs of: x240 vs. T440s - you lose one USB. You also don't have an option of either MultiTouch or any display resolution > 1366x768. Perhaps additional display options will come later, but the current ones are just 1366x768, IPS or non-IPS.

 

I think the FHD display comes in NOvember. Also you actually gain an HDMI port on this and or the x240s. Which I thought was odd they did not put it on the T series.

 

Since the trackpoint buttons have been removed, and now the top part of the trackpad acts as the trackpoint buttons, can you disable the trackpad and still use the trackpoint button functionality?

Thanks!

 

Yes you can. Lenovo confirmed it in youtube X240 unboxing video they did two days ago.

 

I really enjoyed my T60 (and still do) I learned over time to accept and enjoy my T500, but since T510 with 16:9 I can't see why they haven't put on a full size keyboard like on W700. With Tx30 they made it a chiclet keyboard but still not full size. Now T540p will be with full size keyboard but it won't be the Thinkpad we all know. Those 3 trackpoint buttons I use everyday and by removing them and making a mac like pad with buttons is the reason my T500 will be the last thinkpad I will buy from new.

For business class laptops HP and Dell have much more to compete with these days, In my opinion at least

 

There is no HDMI on X240/s. It was a typo. Not that this is a problem, there are cheap passive adapters from DisplayPort to HDMI.

For anyone interested, here's the lenovo's X240 unboxing video mentioned above by ibmquality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGN6XtchXw8

 

I hope to buy the T440s with FHD/IPS screen within in 21 days of black Friday. Ideally I want to have it in my hand by Black Friday (which is later this year). Lenovo has the 21 price match policy. So I am waiting till November 9th or later to order the T440s hopefully. Withh the X240 the came out a few days ago it took 24 hours for the Barnes & Noble discounts and I assume student discounts to appear. No matter what I can never pay full price for a Lenovo.

I wonder if like the X240, the FHD display T440s models won't be available until later?b

 

No, the FHD models should be available immediately for T440s and T440p..

 

Yes you are correct.... but I am considering moving from t410s to the t440s... when comparing the t410s to the t410 it was always slimmer.. I sure hope my new PC is faster than the t410s I am using,...

 

I'm looking at the same upgrade. Here are some benchmark numbers from NoteBookCheck to give you an idea. They don't have all new CPUs in their database yet, but these CPUs are close to what's in the T440s. These are average figures, so just ballpark numbers.

IMHO the i5s don't give enough of an upgrade, so I'd go for the i7, especially since Lenovo is asking a more or less reasonable $150 for the upgrade.































































































































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You're still not making any sense, no one upgrades from a model in the same year, and in any case being the same height certainly does not make the T440 "so thick" or not an ultrabook as you said. Either both the T440s and T440 are thick or neither is.

That being said the T440 just doesn't make sense as a model, and really doesn't need to exist in its current form, but whatever.

 

many companies are very cheap when it comes to computers.

 

T440 is like the R400 of the old days. There are lot of companies that issue this computer (or the L series) to their staffs whom don't travel, if you travel they issue X2xx machines, engineering gets W series, and the executives get their Helix, X1 Carbon, Yoga, etc. Lot of companies now are really tight IT budget, and in many cases this is the first cost they reduce when economic hardship hits the company. Good enough is good enough for them, and don't need anything better than good enough unless you are the boss.

 

Well sure, but it's better than the L series and really seems indistinguishable from a T440s without the FHD screen and some of the higher end upgrades. To me it just seems like a T44 with lower options, not a separate model.

Edit: is the point that a different model number helps them make purchasing decisions more easily? I can sort of see that, except I feel like the person making those decisions should know more about computers than what different model numbers mean (especially since they change so often).

 

Agreed, in which case there are many other Thinkpad series they could buy. I see the regular T440 as a cynical attempt by Lenovo to cash in on the heritage of T-series machines. I agree that it shouldn't really exist. Offer a few lower-spec T440s models and be done with it IMO. Any one/company who needs something cheaper can buy an L-series.

Or, go back to the existing series structure -- T440s the thin'n'light, T440 the regular with ultrabay, T440p the high-end powerhouse.

 

Looks like the T440 is going to be available with optional GT 720M in the US, look at the specs:
ThinkPad T440 Ultrabook Laptop | Lenovo | Lenovo (US)
The nVidia GPU is listed there, unlike the tech-specs of the T440s, which only comes with the Intel 4400. Only downsides: T440 is not available with FHD IPS (which is the major advantage of the T440s and T440p over T430s and T430) and you wont get the Dockingport in this config. At least it is not crippled with 1366x768 like the T430u, which is the predecessor of the T440.

 

Sorry for not making sense, when I put these posts on I am usually through 2 bottles of wine. I think the T410s was the biggest let down ever, and for a road warrior like me, the thing would just take ages to do anything and still does (remember one trip from Perth to Melbourne and it would not even turn on - people next to me we laughing I am sure) . I remember having IT buy me the fastest T410s available, and it froze in windows explorer of all things! I do like the way it looks though... looks so corporate compared the macbook pro I used to use (BTW which was 5 years old when I got the T410s but 10 times as fast)... Each day since I was handed the T410s, I looked at the lenovo site, to see what was new, I saw other managers get the T420s ( a little bit faster) and then some got the t430s when it came out (a little faster). When I saw the t440s launched, I said, now its time I need a new one, I am just hoping it is something that will stop me complaining for atleast a year.. I plan to get every option available...

 

T400s was the best, in terms of battery life and performance. The T410s was worst in having the i Core Arrandale burner CPU with the option of a Nvidia GPU that adds more heat. But the T400s and T410s had a problem with constantly cracking palmrest. I loved my T400s when i had it.

 

Eh, my Envy 14 has an Arrandale Core i5 and the only time I've felt that the performance was not up to par was when I was working on a huge C++ project that took minutes to compile. The other annoying part was the AMD graphics which just did not perform under Linux with the open source drivers (literally, programs would not run unless I used the proprietary drivers which stopped working after a certain kernel update). I'm fairly certain the Haswell CPUs in the T440s will be a bit faster than Arrandale, and the i7 option should be way faster based on 4 generations of IPC improvements as well as higher overall clock rates and burst speeds.

It probably won't be as huge a jump as if you had upgraded to a machine with full voltage Haswell but it should still be quite noticeable, and I'll take the heat and noise savings any day.

 

Just curious what the following battery specs mean for the t440:
ThinkPad 6-cell 47 Whr Battery
ThinkPad 68+ Battery (6-cell 72 Whr)

Specifically, what is the difference (other than watt hours) between the ThinkPad 68+ Battery (6-cell 72 Whr) and ThinkPad 6-cell 47 Whr Battery? Are they the same size, or is the 72whr one a slice battery like the t430 slice?

thanks

 

I believe the 68+ is not a slice battery but a thicker cylindrical one. It might raise the back of the laptop, which I don't mind as long as it's stable since it provides better ergonomics.

 

Better ergonomics? You need to read more about ergonomics. It is bad to have you keyboard tilted since it increase pressure in your wrist which could lead to arthritis. The natural position of your hand is your hand position when you are shacking hands or have your hands to your side. Rotating it so It faces down to type on a keyboard is not very bad but tilting your hands upward or downward is bad. Your hands should be straight with your forearm.

 

The 6 cell 47Whr batter is a internal 3 cell + a external 3 cell that matches the laptop body. The 68+ battery is just a external 6 cell that adds a bump to the bottom of your laptop. With the external 6 cell and internal 3 cell, you get a total 9 cell batter with around 92 Whr which is 10 hour of real work + video playback.

 

I don't know about arthritis, but definitely carpal tunnel syndrome.

 

Well, at least a higher screen position is better for the neck.