T440s up on Lenovo website (IPS Screen, 1080p)

I am deciding on which processor to choose.

Differences between the three processor options: ARK | Compare Intel® Products

The low end i5-4200U does not support VT-d (required for Virtualization), Smart Response Technology and some other features. See comparison above.

 

Oh wait, I figured it out. Order the double-sided cache SSD and the "3rd M.2 slot" disappears from the expansion options. So I guess they must stack single-sided M.2 sockets to offer the options of three of them.

That also means the T440p must only have a double-sided M.2 SSD slot as standard since it never has an option for a third M.2 slot

 

what type of harddrive bay does the T440s use?

i need an SSD but would like to avoid purchasing through lenovo if i can avoid it.

 

I believe it's a standard 7mm, 2.5" SATA3 bay

 

So the only way to use a double sided M.2 drive in the future is to get a double sided 16gb M.2 drive now? I was just blowing off the upgrade but when put like that It's a bit tempting...

 

Thats mostly right, but the T440s can accept 7 or 9.5 mm SSDs / HDDs (unlike T430(s)).

See this information about the 3rd M.2 Slot:

 

thanks for the info guys.

 

The T440s has one 42mm M.2 and 2 80mm M.2. The 42mm is for the WLAN.

 

Thats incorrect, The T440s does not have a 80mm M.2 slot, only 2 42mm slots (or 3 if you have the optional 3rd port).

 

Although the T440s is really tempting, I am going to hold out for the T540p, I hope they make it available soon!

 

the ram on this is soldered on, right?
cant buy my own?

 

I would try another rep. Their policy is 21 days for both return and price match. I had to return a T430 I bought last year and they told me I had 21 days. I recently spoke to a rep about the price match policy and he also told me 21 days for price match. He also said they make take away the restocking policy for the holiday. No matter what, both policies return and price match are 21 days so I would get a second opinion/ second rep to be sure.

 

I was going with the basic processor as an I5 is and I5. And nothing compares to an SSD especially for my needs. However, I never though about/or knew about the different technology that comes up on the upgrade from 4200-4300. Some are important here at school and for the option to protect data. That can't be bought so unfortunately I may have to upgrade.

Funny in that link the suggested price for the 4200-4300 is the same ($287) and the i7 is ($397). But Lenovo (and other companies) are charging us more for the upgrade between the two I5s. ah well, what can you do?

 

Just noticed in the T440s user guide about installing Windows 8 that it says "If your computer is equipped with both a hard disk drive and an M.2 solid-state drive, do not use the M.2 solid-state drive as a bootable device. The M.2 solid-state drive is used for “cache” function and to support the Intel Rapid Start Technology."

Is this simply because the cache drive supplied by Lenovo is too small, or because of some bios configuration limits the M.2 drive's function?

 

4GB is soldered and there's one accessible slot to add your own, giving a theoretical maximum of 12GB total

 

16 GB is definitely too small. I would be surprised if something in the BIOS would stop you from putting an OS on a separate drive.

 

Then what is the advantage of having the M.2 drive along with an SSD? Or is it only helpful for an HDD? If you can't boot from it anyway it won't even really help load times with a HDD will it?

 

If you read on, later in the User Guide they mention that the M.2 SSD can be used as a boot device, but they don't guarantee the reliability of the supplied drive in this mode. Moreover, you can see a video of the T440s booting from a third-party M.2 SSD here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWivz8p5ev4

 

For Windows, yes, but it's just enough for some Linux distribution (if we have /home on HDD and /tmp in RAM)

 

1. You can upgrade to a bigger one, to make a boot drive.
2. Currently, it's a cache, so a select amount of programs/OS will boot faster.

 

T440/s/p etc are finally up on the US website!...too late though, already bought a desktop! Someone please do a thorough review of the T440p!!

Pricing is ridonculus right now though...$1,544.00 for i7-4700MQ, 730M GPU, 4 GB RAM, 500GB HDD, no M2, with AC wifi...that's nearly $2000 with RAM and SSD upgrade... Halloween sale anyone??

 

anyone know how to get the 10% off deal to pop up on lenovo.com? i had it earlier but didnt bother clicking it.

i want to stack it on top of my ibm epp as i'm pretty sure thats the deal i got when i bought my t400.

 

Is there any chance that Lenovo will start shipping laptops earlier than November 19th? That's a ridiculously long wait....

 

That's a pretty standard wait for Lenovo. Some ship faster than that, but occasionally there are also delays

 

Is that with the the FHD display? If it is then there's no denying the T440p is pricey, but not ridiculously so IMO. It's about the same bang for buck as the new Dell XPS15/M3800, which is pricier but has better components. Arguably it's less of a bargain compared to the 15" rMBP

 

Eh, 3 week build time for a custom laptop is pretty standard in my experience.

On that note though, what's the shipping speed like? The awkward thing is if I order at the wrong time it'll arrive while I'm away for thanksgiving, so I guess to be safe I should wait a while and make sure it arrives after thanksgiving :-\

 

The WWAN slot is an 80mm M.2. Please check your information again. Even the 16GB Cache you are provided is 80mm.

 

And the 15% Barnes and Noble discount really helps. I got what appears to be the same laptop as him at ~$1300.

 

Does anyone know if the T440s is actually confirmed to not be available in the US with discrete graphics? I have seen the articles alluding to it in the past, but I haven't found an official announcement from Lenovo, and every Lenovo rep I spoke with won't confirm either way. It's quite annoying that you can't get a clear answer from the company, and if I'm just waiting for a configuration that will never be available, I may as well start looking at other brands now.

 

Pretty much.

 

There's been so much talk that I'm lost here. Can someone help me answer these questions:
1. So, FHD is an IPS screen for sure? (while the multitouch isn't IPS)
2. I want to buy my own SSD elsewhere, is that a problem because of the 16Gb M.2 SSD that they automatically include with old fashion HDD?
3. There is no smartcard reader unless you buy their overpriced 256Gb SSD?
Please advise, These guys made me wait too long, no it's confusing (and more expensive than expected, much more).
Thanks

 

Yep, same question as above on the displays:

Which of the displays is actually IPS? HD+, FHD, FHD w/ multitouch? Even the TABOOK doesn't shed light on this issue.

Thanks all.

 

FHD screens are IPS, both the touch and non-touch.

 

It looks like they're open for purchase (in the US at least).

 

1. Both are IPS.
2. No
3. It's a separate option.

 

How does one add the smartcard or multicard reader? All I see is the option for a 3rd M.2 slot. Kind of tempted, but the rumor of a possible discrete graphics option might hold me back a while.

BTW, thanks for the quick answer on the IPS.

 

so do we have any real world battery life numbers of the 3+3 vs the 3+6?

 

Thanks for the quick answer.
So I also chatted with a rep and he said what I thought were the options: "FHD is IPS, but FHD with multitouch is not."
I don't know what to think anymore. Does someone have a link to a video where there is a FHD multitouch IPS? Or an official doc or something, me confused!

 

6-7 hours of real world with 3+3 and 10 hours with 3+6

 

All T440s screen in the US are IPS. Proof

 

Lenovo already said that they will NOT be releasing a T440s with discrete graphics in the US. They have so far kept every promise they made in the news release here.

 

Which slide is that mentioned on? I did watch the M.2 SSD replacement video, however, and it's looks like it's a 42mm card they're replacing, unless the guy has giant fingers

 

How is lenovo's warranty service? I was going to pick up 3 year coverage from square trade, but lenovo has 3 year onsite +accident protections for less than square trade, and I could even get sealed battery coverage. Any thoughts?

 

Is it only me or the price for this laptop is ridiculous with this specs?
the base price for the touch version is like $1,419.00 with non-touch version $1,199.00
that's with i5 processor, 4 GB ram, 500 GB HD ! isn't this over price?
I configured a machine with these specs:

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• Intel Core i7-4600U Processor on Mother Board
• Windows 8 64
• Windows 8 64 English
• T440s 14.0 FHD Multitouch WWAN
• Intel HD Graphics 4400
• 4 GB DDR3L - SDRAM 1600MHz Base
• Keyboard Backlit - US English
• Fingerprint Reader, dock
• 720p HD Camera
• 256 GB Solid State Drive, Serial ATA3 eDrive Capable
• 3rd M.2 SSD slot
• ThinkPad Battery 3 cell Li-Polymer (23.2Whr)
• ThinkPad Battery 6 cell Li-Ion (72Whr) Cylindrical High Capacity
• 45W AC Adapter - US (2pin)
• TThinkPad Wireless 2 x 2 BGN with Bluetooth
• Integrated Mobile Broadband upgradable
• Publication - US English
• 1 Year Depot or Carry-in

Price : $1,974.00 + Tax In my opinion, this is just too much for so little

 

FYR

 

Seriously. I've been looking for a laptop and of course my search led me to the 440s (since everyone seems to have been recommending this) but this is too much. I know something is off when I'm looking at the cot damn rMBP as the "cheaper" alternative.

 

Without discounts it is a little pricey and the rMBP looks positively bargain-priced by comparison However, I've never bought a Lenovo laptop without a 15%-25% discount from the list price. Might be worth waiting a few weeks for the inevitable discounts to start showing (or get a B&N Gold membership, whic gets you 15% off now). The problem is nearly always Lenovo's huge markup on certain upgraded components, in this case the SSD and touchscreen.

In addition, I've noticed that a lot of the new Haswell machines coming out from many manufacturers seem to be adding a premium price for shaving a few mm off the thickness (I'm looking at you, Lenovo, Dell, HP). The bean-counters must have been persuaded by the marketing folks that they can milk top $$ for this "ultrabook" fad because Apple's been doing it for years. Clearly they don't realize Apple cashes in on its reputation for coolness and design that WinPC makers generally do not have.

Ironically, the one manufacturer that's actually lowered prices for some Haswell machines is Apple.

 

Just to add, Barnes and Noble gold membership just means you make a an account through the Barnes and Noble gold Lenovo portal. For some reason the best discounts are always there, even more than student discounts. Right now it's at 15% off which isn't bad, and might go higher later (though it says the 15% off is valid until 11/12 so it might not change till then :-\). I'm personally just waiting on my stipend check to splurge on this lol. Most likely going for FHD and i7 and upgrading RAM and SSD after market, though I might go for the i5-4300 instead of the i7 if it doesn't seem like the difference matters.

Oh, here's the link https://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary...noblegold&ConfigContext=StdAffinityPortal

 

Are you sure? I double checked on Lenovo's support forum and was told the M.2 cards in the T440 series are all 42mm: T440/s/p M.2 size 42mm or 80mm? - Lenovo Community

 

tabook (PSRef) shows the options:

14.0" (355mm) FHD (1920x1080) color, anti-glare, LED backlight,
300 nits, 16:9 aspect ratio, 700:1 contrast ratio, IPS
MultiTouch: Capacitive-type MultiTouch, supports ten-fi nger gesture

14.0" (355mm) FHD (1920x1080) color, anti-glare, LED backlight,
300 nits, 16:9 aspect ratio, 700:1 contrast ratio, IPS
MultiTouch: None

14.0" (355mm) HD+ (1600x900) color, anti-glare, LED backlight,
250 nits, 16:9 aspect ratio, 400:1 contrast ratio (IPS not mentioned, and contrast and brightness not likely for IPS)

Are they selling different display configurations on the web site than the TopSellers? Possible I guess, but not likely.