T440s up on Lenovo website (IPS Screen, 1080p)

Well, because thats not the only source which says "There is no IPS for the T440s". vinuneuro posted a picture from the Service Training site with the specs, where IPS also isn´t noted at all. There ist this table which was showed at the official announcement in Japan:
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And then a Lenovo employee on Twitter confirmed that the T440s won´t have IPS.

We will see that. Maybe the T440s uses an AHVA panel, thats also possible. The B140HAN01 is one. That would be great, because AHVA is a variant of VA.

 

I know this may come off strange, being that I am aware that this is not related to the uses that a Thinkpad is intended for, but do you think (if they do infact offer a dedicated GPU), that the T440s will be capable of some light gaming? By no means am I intending to imply maximum graphical settings, but I will be using this laptop for work, college and if possible some light gaming.

 

That depends on how "light weight" you want it to be. Google some reviews for that GPU.

 

If it uses an AHVA panel that is an IPS panel in everything but name. Like baii said, there are no 14 inch FHD TN panels. The T440s will have an IPS or IPS like technology for its FHD panel.

 

Some news on the external (= the Hot-Swappable) batteries: They are now listed on the Lenovo Support site: ThinkPad Battery 68, 68+ - Overview and Service Parts

As noted there, the optional 6-cell battery (68+) comes with 72Wh. That means together with the integrated 23Wh Battery, you will have up to 95 Wh with the best configuration.

Well, thats my hope.

 

I think I will keep my t430 and swap the screen with this model's screen. Hopefully it will work and hopefully it does not require a whitelisted bios for that. My t430 is just perfect as it is except for the screen

 

Thats impossible, because all new Haswell ThinkPads, including the T440s, will use the new eDP interface to connect the display internally with the the motherboard. Older ThinkPads like your T430 used LVDS, which incompatible with eDP.

 

Ahh bummer. So they introduced a new display inferace? Oh well, I got used to the display anywhere so it's not a great loss

 

review of the T440s full hd display: Test Schenker S413 Notebook (Clevo W740SU) - Notebookcheck.com Tests

T440s parts list: http://download.lenovo.com/parts/ThinkPad/t440s_fru_list_20130724.pdf

 

finally some wise words here! :thumbsup:

 

The TN FHD on T530 is really good.

On the other hand, I remember that some IPS on Sony have problems.

 

My kids have been light gaming on my T430 for the past year, with only the integrated GPU.

 

If it does indeed have a 730m, it'll be easily capable of running most recent games on low settings. Starcraft, for instance, should be very smooth on medium settings.

 

I've played Borderlands 2, Call of Duty (always makes me think of an epic poop) Black Ops 2, NBA 2K13 and a few others on a 2nd gen Intel i5 with integrated 3000 graphics on my 2 year old Lenovo e520.

Granted the settings were all pretty much on the lowest possible, I still had a blast and frame rates were always above 20 fps. I'd say those would be sufficient for light gaming and the 4th gen integrated graphics would definitely be able to handle more than the 2nd gen 3000 graphics.

 

This is so pointless. Iris 5200 is almost on par with 750m, why would you need a discrete gpu? I'd rather have a 47w quad with IGP than a 28w dual with dgp. You can have the best of both worlds plus a far better battery life (the CPU can always be downclocked in Windows)

 

Not "far better battery life" according to this.

 

The dGPU won't be running at all unless an app is using it.

 

This is Clevo you are talking about. Those guys never excel in optimizing their machines for great battery life. Intel has nothing to do with them. Clevo focuses more on producing budget powerhouses. Also, like I said, you can tweak the cpu in 3 sec if needed. I had my 3840QM in M18xR2 locked at below 5% to get almost 6hr of battery life (18.4" gaming notebook!)

 

Is the T440s going to have the Iris Pro? I thought it was the HD 4600, did I miss something?

 

I think some tech blogs wrote that only Apple is going to get Iris Pro in near future for their mac book pro retina. Most likely GT2 is what we can hope for on any other laptop these days.

 

At previous page, there is a link of Schenker S413 (Clevo W740SU) review, it got Iris Pro.

 

With a dedicated GPU you could also run a secondary monitor when docked, duh.

 

You don't need a dedicated GPU to drive a secondary monitor as I'm doing it now on a X301 with a 5 year old integrated graphics card. From what I've read, Haswell-based notebooks can even run 3 monitors off the native integrated graphics.

 

What do you think the robustness / reliability of the new t440s will be? After watching the service repair videos and seeing no big roll cage frame, especially the top cover like in this video Lenovo Notebook Design Features: Rollcage Technology - YouTube and having in mind its thinness, is this model really worth the money and the trust, can it be really reliable? Also considering all the opinions about how thinkpads are declining in quality I don't even know what to think about that legendary T series durability. So what do you think? If reliability is the primary requirement, is it worth buying this, or wait till T440?

 

You won't know until you use it right?

 

I can run 3 monitors on my hp2570p on IGP. What's the problem?

 

Multitasking, especially at 1440p. There's no way your IGP alone can handle 2 or 3 1440p monitors (let alone 4K in the future) running GPU-intensive programs or even multimedia. I'm hoping lenovo doesn't skimp on the GPU, even if it means the battery life is only about 7 hours.

 

zenbook infinity is slated for iris pro too

 

You are not getting my point - Iris Pro 5200 is more powerful than those low-mid range nvidia cards lenovo is using in their T and W lines. But what am I talking about? When did lenovo listen to the voice of the users. They just need 80%, and the majority can't even tell the difference between wide gamut and 60% sRGB, let alone figure out the best CPU/GPU combo currently available on the market.

 

Looks like the US website is back up, still can't order but they are claiming to have 5th Gen Core CPUs:


Edit: Just realized it was actually the Israel site, but at least it is in English, not sure why it was at the top of my google search:
ThinkPad T440s Ultrabook Laptop | Lenovo | Lenovo (IL)

 

True, and the 5200 iGPU will cover 80% of their target customers, but lenovo could at least provide the power-user options (even if on a different model).

 

It's fixed now.

Lenovo, what are you doing?

 

woah, Lenovo's page for thinkpad T series is being funky: ThinkPad T Series: Premium Laptops | Lenovo (US)

does this happen very often?



*edit: it's not just the T series. X, Edge, L and Y are all down too. I've notified Lenovo and hopefully they're adding new product lines

*edit: the site is back in full and nothing new has appeared

 

It looks fine currently, and no changes in product lineup. I really hope we do see something today though!

 

Interestingly, if you manually add /t440s to the URL, it redirects you to the main page. If you add /t440, you get a "Our apologies, the page you're looking for can't be found." error page. (This is the URL format that works on other international sites that currently list the T440s).

Just more confirmation that they're much further along on the T440s release than any others in the family. :-(

 

But the t440s will only get ulv processors right? so at best hd4400 or hd5000? If this is the case, it´s a bit disappointing since it feels like the case is large enough to house a stronger configuration. I´m going to replace a w520 with something smaller, and really hoping to see a t440/t440p with at least a quadcore, iris 5200 and 16gb RAM that wont be too bulky.

 

ThinkPads were never known for there graphics performance if you don't count the oversized W7XX series.

 

Ever since the W510 I'd say there are ThinkPads that offer graphics performance if you need it. True, the old Workstations only had mid-range graphics, but like I said, ever since the W510 this has changed.

And then of course there is the A30p series, which had extremely powerful graphics for its time.

 

W510 and later models only offer mid-low range GPU (which is QK2000M for now). Not bad, but far from "fast".

It could be different if W7XX was not killed.

 

Well the Quadro 2000M (not K) is as fast as the FX3700 in the W700.

 

And a GTX765M in the 13" Clevo/14" Razer/etc is 2x more powerful. The point is, Lenovo could and should be using more powerful components in Thinkpads.

 

ThinkPadders usually have an allergy to the word "Clevo" or "Razer"... or "GeForce".

If you look at the direct competition of W5*0, which are Dell Precision M4*00 and HP EliteBook 85*0W, they are limited to QK2000M or FP M4000 as well.

It's technically easy to put a QK5000M into a 15" machine, but they won't do it for obvious reasons.

 

The graphics card you are referring to is 2 generations younger.

 

Nope, I'm referring to the K2100M (Kepler) which is the new gen and the best GPU Lenovo can do this time around. The GTX765M is still almost 2x more powerful. Now, I'm not saying let's put gaming cards in mobile workstations, but they could land a more powerful quadro or firepro there...

 

After reading this thread, there seems to be a lot of love for the previous T430s for the most part. I am looking for a thin & light laptop, reasonably priced (not as much as say an X1 carbon), basic upgradable components if possible, and that will run RedHat/Centos version 6.4 (The T430s is certified for version 6.3, so that is good enough). Does the T430s have the same terrible screen as the T430? I recommended the T430 laptop to someone for school (The lower resolution version) and when it arrived it had the same horrible screen door effect that I noticed on the T5xx series Thinkpad I had at work many years ago. That is really sad. Would going to the 1600 x 900 screen improve things; I don't mind messing with the DPI, and I will be doing some coding, so it would probably be the better way to go anyway.

I would go with the T440s if it wasn't delayed too long, but I am concerned whether it will be supported with the operating system I am using. I was really depressed after reading through the whole thread, only to find out the rumored IPS screen was mis-information. Do you think it will at least have a better non-IPS screen?

 

I don't think the rumored IPS screen was a misinformation. Up until 2013, there was no 14" IPS panels on the market but now there is! Check the Alienware 14 for example. It's got an IPS 100% sRGB screen. I think new Latitudes also have that panel, so the chances are pretty good.

 

Don't forget Aspire V7-482PG-9884, another 14inch IPS at a great price (1300). Current Lenovo owner tired of waiting for Lenovo to come up with a 14 inch IPS. Seriously thinking about getting Aspire which is only sold online for now.... Acer North America Online Store - Aspire V7-482PG-9884 (Windows 8)

 

Also the Israeli t440s site ( up and running here) states it's IPS with enough detail that it would be a surprising mistake:

It's also linked from the main Israel T-series page ( ThinkPad T Series: Premium Laptops | Lenovo | | Lenovo (IL)), complete with a features matrix, so this isn't a secret URL that's being deep-linked.

 

Interesting. I don't see a lan port listed....is that true for the t430s as well.

 

Hmm, looking at the same site ( Thinkpad T430s Series Premium Laptop for Business & Enterprises | Lenovo (IL)) under "Tech Specs" for the T430s it lists "Ethernet RJ45" under "Communications" -- even though RJ45 is NOT listed in the floating "Standard on the T430s" box on the right.

Compare that to the T431s ( ThinkPad T431s | Premium Business Ultrabook With Windows 8 Pro | Lenovo | Lenovo (IL)) where the right-hand floating box explicitly mentions RJ45 and the Tech Specs page lists it under "Ethernet".

I'd say the "Tech Specs" page is the more accurate indicator of whether a model includes an RJ45 Ethernet port, and that page is still "Coming Soon" for the T440s. The service guide probably says, but I don't have a chance to look it up now. It was linked a few pages back if you want to check it out.

I sure hope it has an Ethernet port. Surprising to stick with a VGA (and take the hit on minimum height) but exclude LAN.