ThinkPad X1, X230, X230t, T430, T430s, T530, W530, L430, L530 Official

hey guys, anyone know if lenovo sent out any x230T devices for review or of there have been any reviews of it?

cheerz

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I wonder if the supposed X230 1600x900 panel will work with the X220?

 

Sorry pal there is no 1600x900 panel - it was a misunderstanding during the initial announcement of the models and has been clarified as a mistake numerous times.

 

If Lenovo would allow an IPS screen on the W530 that would be a dream. There's an IPS option on the Dell Precision and the HP Elitebook, so why not the ThinkPad workstation? Oh well...

 

Sounds like an IPS display or the equivalent to an IPS screen.

 

I just want the ib gpu to support 10-bit screens.

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any one have informations regarding for the k1000 and k2000 nvidia quadro and reviews or tests ?

Tkz,

 

Any discounts coming out of the gate or are we going to have to wait? What's the history on new models?

 

T430u will have normal CPU or ULV?

 

If you look at the PSREF for the W520 it lists the FHD as a "wider viewing angle" display, which implies IPS, but it is def. not an IPS display. Even the X1 is listed as having a "wide viewing angle" but the screen is garbage. I think it has to say "IPS" for it to truly be IPS... grrr!

 

From a thinkpad lineup presentation:

"Old keyboard is NOT available by any means"

http://www.notteb.com/html/pds_update/2012_new_tp_intro.pptx

 

Yeah I believe what they mean is the 95% color gamut TN screen used in the Dell L502x. It's a very good TN screen, but it's not the same as IPS.

 

@OCM,
very good found. Thank you!

 

I have a W510 with FHD screen, and this screen is a dream. I can not imagine a best iscreen than the atual one.

if the W530 have a screen like mine it will be fantastic.

BR

 

Lenovo usually starts discounting stuff from the bone to start. You can usually haggle if you speak with a customer service agent via the phone.

 

Overview of 2012 T-Series: http://www.notteb.com/html/pds_update/2012_new_tp_t_series.pptx

Some key highlights:

ThinkPad T430u will ship with NVIDIA GeForce GT 620M (1GB)
ThinkPad T430u uses ULV processors, not full power

New battery models (70+, 70++, 81+, 82+) feature a hardware authentication chip. These batteries will work in 2012 and older ThinkPads. Existing battery models (55, 55+, 55++, 66+) do not have a hardware authentication chip and will be recognized, but not be charged, in 2012 ThinkPads.

Overview of 2012 X-Series: www.notteb.com/html/pds_update/2012_new_tp_x_series.pptx

And the 2012 W-Series: www.notteb.com/html/pds_update/2012_new_tp_w_series.pptx

 

never say never.

 

Disappointed to see the LCD options for 2011 and 2012 mirror each other for the T4x0s. Also, the T430u doesn't have optional HD+...

 

Yeah, that along with the lack of dock support makes the T430u pretty useless to me.

 

Hm. So specwise the Quadro 2100M is comparable to the 650M? Both have the same amount of cores and memory bus.

But aren't Kepler (650M) cores clocked slower (I think) than Fermi? That's assuming the quadro is still on Fermi.

 

Eh my point was, a thin and light would need to have a mid range/low end dGPU as a thin and light would have a hard time cooling more than lets say a 35 watt dGPU, and given how exponential IGP has gotten, there is no point of dGPU in a thin and light.

 

Likewise! Come on X1... Be the preeminent ultra portable.

 

The reviews in the ppt are sketchy... the one for the t430 says that he lost one in an airport? They aren't even out yet, and I don't think that a pre-issue person is going to be that careless. What?

 

read it again.   "i've lost my laptop at an airport before" doesn't mean he lost his T430 specifically, it means he's lost some other make/model of laptop before.

besides, this is pre-market research examples given in a document intended for partner sales, not end customers.   try not to be too hypercritical here.

 

And 2012 L-Series: http://www.notteb.com/html/pds_update/2012_new_tp_l_series.pptx

 

With the thinner and lighter Lx30-series that shares the same keyboard with the T-series, there's less and less distinction between the Lx30 and Tx30. If the L-series is priced much lower, it may actually be justified to skip out on the more expensive T-series if the additional rollcage isn't necessary. The L- and T-series now share the same dock and batteries as well.

The PPT doesn't make it very clear, but will the L430 have the same HD+ display in the T430? The L530 seems to top out at HD+ and not FHD, though, so the T530 still has a significant advantage there.

 

the L series doesn't have an internal rollcage, and since the major cusotmers for the T and X series are corporate and enterprise, i think they would willing to spend a bit more to get higher durability machines.

L series are really for small business or customers that need a cheap ThinkPad with docking function.

 

Actually, from the pptx I linked to earlier:




Key points being the apparent lack of back light on L series and the F keys being secondary.

 

Ah, I see, thanks. The L-series won't have a backlit option at all, while it's standard on the X1 Carbon and optional on all the other Thinkpads. The L-series is still using the same keyboard as the T/X-series, rather than the Edge-series, though. I guess backlight will be another differentiating factor, although it's one I could care less about.

The Function keys can be flipped in the BIOS, so I guess the differently-printed keys are to target the Edge line more towards multimedia support.

 

My apologies, I wasn't thinking straight and related Edge to Thinkpad L series. Still, the lack of a latch mechanism, roll cage and durability on the L series makes me go for T series, and I'm a college student

 

T430u should have HD+, they are keep saying that in all promotial videos...
Anyway still dont know what type of screen we can expect cus in demo notebook they put some glossy piece of crapp, in final have to be anti-glare, so maybe it will be some diffrent panel than S430 or t430. Maybe better ?

 

The L-series looks like an enlarged X120e now, and if that's actually the case, the build won't be bad either. Obviously though, it won't take drops and as much pressure as a T-series can, but it'll actually be a good budget option worth considering if the price difference is large enough.

 

The L-Serie is the budget line. While the new L-Series is nearer to the T-Series, there are still some advantages that the T have. L-Serie has a bit lesser durability, but it is still more durable than a average notebook. It is addressed to Big Enterprise as a Mainstream ThinkPad for a normal worker and as a desktop-replacement.

Anyway, I love my L520.

Hm, but the X120e had a even worser chassis. The L-Series is still better than that. It also has the standard ThinkPad-hinges and a little-bit of Clamshell. It has still a better build quality than the Edge Series. The new L330 in fact is a big X121e: http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j...niLK-e8V5Vupg3CQw&sig2=6wOm206eUt0rvU1jTopK9Q

 

Обзор ультрабука Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon - YouTube
Nice video about X1 Carbon, screen looks pretty nice for me (better than crapp in my E420), but we need wait for some real test, hope so they put the same into T430u, cus it can be my next PC.

 

ouch is it me or lenovo made a probable mistake on the t430u? Same weight, less ports, less res and less power than the t430s, with a difference of 3mm in the case height.

 

Agreed! I was happier when I was of the impression that the T430u was morphed into the X1 Carbon. The only thing to save the T430u IMNSHO is a really low entry level price point relative to that of the T430s at least. $899 loaded??? Any takers?

 

Any news when the W530 will be available/ ready to buy online?

 

If the PowerPoint presentations linked earlier in this thread are correct, general availability should be tomorrow (June 5).

 

For me, the most exciting part of this PowerPoint was the "Bluetooh HID Emulator" (slide 53). I hope that's just a driver feature that will work on legacy models. I'd love to be able to use my T420s keyboard to type on my iPad!

 

Does the authentication chip mean no after market or replica battery not working with the laptop? I'm currently using one which has now lasted for year and can still get 4 hours out of it for my x60 laptop. Not to mention it was relatively cheap

and for anyone interested in S430, Ill also post this in the s430 thread.
NAB 2012 Thunderbolt with Lenovo-4K-workflow - YouTube

 

given that the t430s usually is more expensive than some models on lenovo, the only idea here is to compete on price. And I hope it does.

Design wise I would give a win to the t430u, and nothing much else, the gpu on those systems are the same, with only a different set of drivers to make the difference.

cpu power t430s wins, ram wise, its the same, thankfully they have 2 slots in there, storage is the same on both system, and the ODD for me is meaningless, but can count as a win, since you can put a battery in there.

still the t430u is an interesting move by lenovo.

 

That is exactly what I thought of when I read about this. Leave it to Lenovo to black list batteries.

On one hand, it's probably a good thing to make sure really bad batteries aren't used. On the other hand it seems self serving and anti-competitive.

 

Agreed, interesting indeed, I'm just put off by the fact that it will have worse resolution, no ODD, and same weight all the while being 3mm thinner. Even at $200 - $300 price difference I'd opt for the T430s every time! IMNSHO, it has to compete on price or its doomed... But if Lenovo tows the Intel Ultrabook line, there's hope... Time will tell... Come on time, let's get the info out there!!! LOL!

 

For those interested, the X230, T430 and T530 are now available on the Aus Lenovo website. W530 seems like it will be coming later.

X230 starts from $959, T430 from $1,119 and T530 from $1,219.

 

data sheet for the T430s which isn't out yet on the US site is there on the AUS site also

http://shopap.lenovo.com/ISS_Static...hinkpad/tseries/T430s_Datasheet_AU_Mar-03.pdf

 

The entire lineup of ThinkPads should be available in the U.S. within the next few hours, pricing on the X230 will start at $949 with Core i3 Sandy Bridge or $999 with Core i5 Sandy Bridge. However, there's going to be a 15% off coupon for June 5th (one day only) THINK15X so that should bring the Ivy Bridge X230 price down to $850 (emphasis, June 5th only). Rest of ThinkPad 2012 pricing details here.

Note, still not live on Lenovo.com, though the promised launch date is in, well, 5 minutes (June 5th).

 

Thanks for the tip, but I thought there's an i7 Ivy Bridge X230T, is it not coming out today?

 

It may, I just have the specs and pricing for the base configurations, that's all Lenovo sent me. I guess they just wanted to promote the lowest advertised pricing. You should be able to see for yourself in the next few hours what they put up on Lenovo.com.

Also note, this is U.S. info and pricing, but I think other countries get the same release date -- not pricing though.

 

Is the special Lenovo pay-as-you-go 4G LTE plan documented anywhere? I see that they offer both AT&T and Verizon Gobi 4000 modules. I wonder if both of them offer the special $1.99/30 minutes pay-as-you-go plan or you have to pick the right one?

Trying to figure out which WWAN card I should order...

- Integrated Mobile Broadband (Sierra Wireless MC7700 - Gobi 4000 for AT&T)

- Integrated Mobile Broadband (Sierra Wireless MC7750 - Gobi 4000 for Verizon)

 

Lenovo site seems to be down in most places.... I'm excited for no good reason