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    ThinkPad X1, X230, X230t, T430, T430s, T530, W530, L430, L530 Official

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Andrew Baxter, May 15, 2012.

  1. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    They are actually doing you a favor. They would likely charge $600 or more.
     
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    I believe there are some port differences as well.

    I thought I recalled seeing thunderbolt as an option for the T430S with the i7. Did I imagine that?
     
  3. OCM

    OCM Notebook Geek

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    I configured a T430s with the i7 and didn't see any Thunderbolt option, I might have missed it though
     
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    s1148625 Notebook Geek

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    All T430s systems configured with the i7 processor come with Thunderbolt by default.
     
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    pterodactilo Notebook Consultant

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    What is the model number of the FHD panel in W530? Is it the same AUO B156HW01 V4 as in W510 and W520?
     
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    Just some advice before I pull the trigger: Right now I'm leaning toward the T430s with a bay battery, a 180gb SSD, and then getting an external HDD for storing my music collection and other space-consuming stuff. Is this a practical setup for an incoming college student? How much of a hassle is the external?
     
  7. OCM

    OCM Notebook Geek

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    Does it share the Mini-DP connector?
     
  8. PatchySan

    PatchySan Om Noms Kit Kat

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    Shouldn't be too much of a hassle but you could always go for a mSATA SSD setup along with the standard HDD for your storage so you can remove the need of an external hard drive and wires to begin with.
     
  9. s1148625

    s1148625 Notebook Geek

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    Hearst's advice about the mSATA is good. For the $480 that Lenovo will charge you for the 180GB drive, save some money and just get one of these: Newegg.com - Mushkin Enhanced Atlas Series MKNSSDAT240GB-DX mSATA 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

    and keep the standard 500GB 7200RPM drive for storage.
     
  10. Ignimbrite

    Ignimbrite Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just some clarification for a newbie: If I did this, I would just swap out the HDD for the Mushkin on my own and use the HDD as an external? How exactly does an mSATA work?
     
  11. s1148625

    s1148625 Notebook Geek

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    The Mushkin is a mSATA drive - it goes in the mini-PCI slot, not the hard drive slot, so you can have both drives in your computer at the same time. Create a recovery disc from the primary hard drive, install the Mushkin mSATA drive, restore the system partition to the Mushkin, then format the system drive. Voila, a dual drive setup with a blazing fast SSD for system and a fast traditional hard drive for storage.
     
  12. Ignimbrite

    Ignimbrite Notebook Enthusiast

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    That sounds like an excellent idea. Thank you so much for that!
     
  13. pchome

    pchome Notebook Deity

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    How about battery life of T430 vs T430s with different combinations like 9cell in T430 vs 6-cell and 3-cell combined in T430s? I am still confused whether I should get the T430s or stick with T430. Also is the Intel graphics that come with the T430s different?
     
  14. grimace912

    grimace912 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can anyone actually confirm that the resolution of the w530 FHD monitor is 1900x1080 instead of 1920x1080? That seems weird.
     
  15. XX55XX

    XX55XX Notebook Evangelist

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    I was unable to complete my quote on an iPod Touch... lucky!
     
  16. XX55XX

    XX55XX Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, I'm looking at this configuration for a T430s:

    Intel Core i5-3320M Processor (3M Cache, 2.60GHz)
    Genuine Windows 7 Professional (64 bit)
    14.0" HD+ (1600 x 900) LED Backlit Anti-Glare Display, Mobile Broadband Ready
    Intel Core i5-3320M Processor (3M Cache, 2.60 GHz) with Intel HD Graphics 4000
    4 GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (1 DIMM)
    UltraNav without FingerPrint Reader
    500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm
    DVD Recordable
    6 Cell Lithium Battery T81+
    None
    Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200 (2x2 BGN)
    Mobile Broadband upgradable
    1 Year Depot/Express Warranty

    $861.75 before taxes. A T430 of a similar configuration is $734.25. I will most likely sell the optical drive to make room for an Ultrabay adapter.
     
  17. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It's a typo - 1920x1080 is correct.

    Looks like Lenovo did it again for the W series, RAID looks like it needs to be configured before hand since it will probably be a different motherboard.
     
  18. grimace912

    grimace912 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm not familiar with laptop RAID, but are you saying if I ordered it without RAID configured, I wouldn't be able to set up a RAID?

    I was actually thinking of just having two separate drives. SSD in the main slot for OS/programs and the optical drive bay for platter data drive...
     
  19. pchome

    pchome Notebook Deity

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    It has been 24 hours after I placed my order and I cannot find any status online as if the order did not exist. Is anyone in the same boat?
     
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    sungman Notebook Consultant

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    I see that my order was placed when I view my account on orders but I haven't gotten any order status information.
     
  21. WilyWilly

    WilyWilly Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yesterday, I tweaked out this order, which I was quite pleased with until I was hit with the sales tax:

    ThinkPad W530 - 1 Year
    Depot Warranty
    Estimated ship
    date: 6/11/12**
    $2,645.00
    $1,709.00
    $2,645.00
    Total without Tax: $1,281.75

    Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor (6MB L3, 2.30GHz)
    Operating system Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit)
    15.6" FHD (1900 x 1080) LED Backlit AntiGlare Display, Mobile Broadband Ready
    NVIDIA Quadro K2000M Graphics with 2GB DDR3
    4 GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (1 DIMM)
    Keyboard Keyboard - US English
    UltraNav without Fingerprint Reader
    Camera 720p HD Camera with Microphone
    320GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm
    Optical device Optical Bay Travel Bezel
    Express Card Slot & 4-in-1 Card Reader & Bezel
    Battery 9 Cell Li-Ion TWL 70++
    Power cord 170W Slim AC Adapter - US (2pin)
    Bluetooth 4.0 with Antenna
    Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN
    Mobile Broadband upgradable
    Language pack Publication - US English

    I decided on Home Premium, because I'm just going to install my own Enterprise version of Win 7. Coming from a 1920 x 1200 screen, I don't know how I'm going to fare with this newfangled 1900 x 1080.

    And though I've never used a ThinkPad, I was definitely turned off by the new chiclets. But after some review of the entire matter, and after using my mother's Sony that has a chiclet KB, I realized I might actually really like that new keyboard. For one, I'm assuming that Lenovo does KB's better than Sony. So, we'll see. If it works out, we'll be saying, "If it ain't broke, maybe we can make it better." I hope so.

    Anyway, now I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestion for finding the proper RAM at a good price, and ALSO for getting a DVD recordable drive and extra HDD caddy for that bay?
     
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    WilyWilly Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes. I am. I assume that it's either normal, or they've sniffed me out for going through improper channels to order ;) .
     
  23. Ole man

    Ole man Notebook Evangelist

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    I feel like I'm looking in the wrong place, because everything on the Lenovo website for the T430s and T430 is much more expensive than the quotes I see in this thread. Heck, neither of the default T430s options even starts under $1000.
     
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    Interesting. I was just chatting with one rep and once I told him that I cannot find my order status, he asked me did you get a cancellation e-mail?!! I said what, why would I get one? :) I just closed the conversation as he does not know what he is talking about.

    I do not like it that some big companies cannot still handle launches after all these ages in this business!
     
  25. WilyWilly

    WilyWilly Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah, I didn't have any intention of ordering a W530 yesterday. I was actually waiting for the prices of W520's on ebay to start falling.

    But, ever the optimist (no, not really), I was looking through a thread and saw that someone was saying that they went through Mastercard Marketplace. Also, I'm not necessarily advising this next step, but I realized that they're charging 120 for a DVD-recordable drive. Which is heinous...I think...I'm not sure. but I'll take the chance. So, I added RAID and then removed RAID. This gave me a 320gb 5400 rpm drive (which isn't even offered) and no optical. I upped the HDD to 7200 for like 40, and left out the optical, because I'm hoping to get it more reasonably elsewhere. Also, try playing around with the color sensor options. You can get a little bit off on one of those. And the ultra nav without...ahh...play with all the radio buttons and see what happens. I fooled around with it for a good four hours to tweak it. I wanted to tell people I got the whole thing with the k2000m for less than 1300. But Sales tax screwed that up. Anyway, play with ALL of the radio buttons for ALL of the options and see what they take off or add.

    Best of luck.
     
  26. pchome

    pchome Notebook Deity

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    A representative from Lenovo today told me there are docking stations with USB 3.0 that will be released later. Do you know if this is true? Also, I do not find any of the converters of mini-display to VGA or DVI
     
  27. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    Yes there will be a new dock with usb 3.0 port.
     
  28. Thors.Hammer

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    I still cannot see my order and I talked to someone now who is telling me it is "Pending". I asked him what does this mean and he replied that he will ask his team to look into it!!!! Anyone can check their order status and get information?!
     
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    WilyWilly Notebook Enthusiast

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    I discovered that I can see my status. They originally sent an email to one account which I forwarded to another. For some reason from the second account the link wasn't working (pop3 client). From my webmail it works.
     
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    They did not provide me a link as they used to with the 6-digit order number. I now have the 10-digits order number and I cannot find any status!
     
  35. power7

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    AFAIR it was the same last generation. Could buy from Provantage and other big resellers immediately, while lenovo.com followed many weeks later.
     
  36. outl@w

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    Anyone have idea what type of FHD panel will be in the T530, i mean the same who is in the W530?
     
  37. ibmthink

    ibmthink Notebookcheck Deity

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    Its the same FHD screen. :)
     
  38. Thors.Hammer

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    You find it strange Lenovo would supply their Partner channel first?
     
  39. outl@w

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    Good, rumours says the nvs5400 is something like 630m so it is enough for type of work, w530 is way to expensive, w520 have no backlight so... Maybe T530.

    I want the relase t430u and others fast i need to read some good reviews :p.
     
  40. sabraham33

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    W530 is still worth the price
     
  41. sabraham33

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    Where did you find that deal?
     
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    I detailed that in an earlier post in this thread. Maybe two (?) pages back. Yes. Two pages. It starts off with "I had no intention..."
     
  43. pchome

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    Yes, I do. When you look at some people that I believe can do business right like Apple, have you seen them before supply partner channel with products before they have them?
     
  44. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    depends on how much revenue is found on either strategy. Simple as that.
     
  45. pchome

    pchome Notebook Deity

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    Well, this is a more reasonable appreciated comment/suggestion for me. For me, it is much better than 'continuously' picking on people comments in every single technology forum on earth :)
     
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    do most thinkpads, these new ones especially, allow for upgrades to the wireless cards?

    i ask because ive read that 802.11ac cards for mobile will be released late 2012 into 2013, and would want one of those if i purchased a new laptop within the next few months.
     
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    lenovo whitelists wlan/wwan cards iirc. Take a look at this: X220 Tablet + Killer 1102 N Wifi Card? - Lenovo Community


    down the road, if you purchase a card from lenovo, it may be included in the whitelist from a bios update. If you want to use an aftermarket card, you will have to rely on some programmers to remove the bios whitelist for you (eg: http://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Request-Lenovo-X220-Bios-1-24-whitelist-removal)
     
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    must you pay with a Mastercard to use that marketplace?
     
  49. Thors.Hammer

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    Building a channel is hard. Competing against your channel is risky. Supplying your channel first is normal and many makers do that. Some day when you grow up you will understand how business works.

    Please start a W530 owners thread for the inevitable 300 n00b questions that are coming.
     
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