ThinkPad X1, X230, X230t, T430, T430s, T530, W530, L430, L530 Official

I got the i7 3610QM. I work with multiple VMs at times, sometimes I convert large video files etc. But I think it doesn't matter that much as I'll probably replace the machine in two years anyway. It was just a good offer and the 3610QM gives a good bang for the buck I guess.

Should be quite a step from my T400s (core2Duo 9600 with 8GB and Intel 300GB SSD). Although it's a great machine it's starting to feel a little slow at times.

Maybe Lenovo releases a thin and powerful 15" model with a FHD (or higher) IPS screen next year. Then I'll probably replace the t530. Until then I guess there's just no better option.

Looking forward to the bigger display too. 14" 16:10 was OK but with 14" 16:9 it was starting to feel too tiny. In terms of mobility, actually I use my thinkpad 95% of the time in a docking station either at home or at a customer site. So carrying the weight around isn't so much the issue. It's just frustrating to know that other manufacturers are able to fit the same hardware in a slimmer case and Lenovo hasn't changed anything in the T5xx line.

 

I wanted to get the quad-core but I do not need the dGPU and it also cost $250, so that;s the only reason why I did not go this direction.

Regarding your disappointment with Lenovo 'inability' or better say 'laziness' and 'unwillingness' to fit all the good things in a slim 14" machine, I cannot agree any more with you. Unfortunately, asl long as they have their customers for these machines, they will never change their practices even they whine. Sales is the driving force and I guess they sell, especially for corporates and government.

Unfortunately, I do not have the luxury yet to change my machine every year or I would not care much living with any machine for a year and looking forward to the next.

 

Is there a difference in keyboard manufacturer this time around? Have they released which keyboard is made by NMV, chicony, etc.?

 

Hey

I looked on the web and checked out all the videos and pics I could get my hands on...

Where are the speakers of the X1?

I see none around the keyboard, none on the sides, none underneath, none in the back, none at the screen. Only place left is at the front, but that seems to thin. I did not find an image with a shot from the front that showed the speakers.

Anybody know what's going on?

thx!

 

They are in the sides.
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Picture: http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2012/06/07/630595/ltpx1c-inside-2-comm.jpg

 

Thanks imbthink!

Anybody want to risk a statement with regards to what such 4mm sound holes sound like?

 

The original X1 had a very similar arrangement, and the sound is not so bad (thanks to Dolby v4):
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Review | Dolby Home Theater v4 Demo - YouTube

 

Thanks.

Researched a tad more, getting myself a t430s.

Question, does anybody know a place to get good deals in Europe.
Or any US etailer that ships to EU?

The prices I see at geizhals are crazy compared to what our US brethren get, 1850E, which is like 2300USD

 

Lenovo's website has been down for long time before midnight and it states:

The Lenovo Web site is currently unavailable but will return soon. To place or check on the status of an order or for any other enquiries, please contact a Lenovo representative during regular business hours.

Does anyone think something new may be coming up (Early X1C for example? or FHD display in T430(s) as a response to their valued customers in this forum )

 

The entire site didn't go down when they released the T/X/Wx30 Thinkpads. I doubt this is for a new product.

 

Mini-unboxing W530: Lenovo ThinkPad W530 Unboxing - YouTube

 

chaps - for those of us in the UK it looks like since the Lenovo site has come back up all the new models are available for purchase.... apart from the X230T ofc because that's the one I want

anyway - looks like they didn't proof read their stuff, unless of course the W530 is meant to be over £15,600 lol

Laptop computers - ThinkPad W Series - ThinkPad W530 - United Kingdom (GB) | Lenovo | (GB)

EDIT - customise the laptop, change it to internal RAID and the price jumps to £23,000 Outstanding.

 

I knew W Series are expensive in the UK... but the cheapest being £15,000 (~$23,500 USD)! Damn! Well on the bright side, at least you save £217 off the list price!

Hmmm a Car or a W530... hard choices indeed.

 

cars are overrated.... just get a W530, you know you want it.

 

Ordered T430 on 6/5 ship date was 6/11 (1st lie), new ship date today 6/18 (2nd lie), 3rd lie coming soon...

Gave up and ordered T530 on 6/13 ship date was tomorrow 6/19 (1st lie), new ship date 6/24, do not know what else will happen next...

I started to feel it's only the miserable me since no one complains about shipping dates.

I am without a machine and keep loaning machines. Thanks Lenovo (I do not think you care).

 

I ordered w530 on 6/16, orig ship date at checkout was 6/22.

Order Status webpage now says 6/24, and just today it changed from "Order Received" to "Released to Manufacturing"

 

This is reasonable to have 2 days delay but nothing like the situation I have

 

Could you buy an inexpensive, used ThinkPad (say, T510) and keep it around for as a back-up machine? Just a thought.

 

It's a good idea and I should not have sold my previous 2 machines before I settle on my new one but I cannot afford to this now but definitely will keep one as a backup in the future. I am just getting mad about their shipping dates and problem is if it does not ship on Mondays, this means I am gonna wait for at least one more week to receive it (assuming it will ship later this week which I now suspect).

I just find it strange that everyone who ordered with or after me got their machines shipped and I wonder why is that? I am actually thinking of may be just take which ever comes first (T430 or T530) even if I ended up with the T430 with crappy display just because of the time factor.

Need an advice: If I was so lucky to get the 2 machines at the same time and knowing that they have the same exact specs except that the T530 has the FHD and for me, it is about $300 more expensive. Do you think I should just live with the T430 display knowing that I do not do any video/photo editing, play games, or watch movies on my machine? I am also connected to an external high quality display most of the time. I am trying to sell it for myself but to be honest with you, I would not be proud to show the machine to someone or even to my eyes

 

FHD or bust IMHO

 

also, when i go to Order Status, if i click +Detail, its empty. anyone else?

 

This is always the case for everyone for every order. One more piece of crap! Hope you can live with it

 

Does someone know the answer for this question: Why the trackpad in the ThnikPads does not function as well as or close to the one on the MBP even with third-party software. I recently tried the new HP dv6 for a couple of weeks and the trackpad works as charm as the one in the MBP with most of the gestures without the need for any additional software. Is it a problem with the hardware or software or both in the ThinkPads?

Edit: Maybe this is already fixed in the new generation but I do not know yet as I have not received my machine yet!

 

You meant "machines," plural.

 

I decided to only get the T430 and canceled the T530. I thought I should have some mercy on Lenovo

Thought I would get an answer about the trackpad from experts in this forum like you if you have one

 

Does it really matter in the speed if I just upgrade the stock 4GB RAM with any 4GB stick of the same speed vs. removing the stock and purchasing two 4GB kit and putting them into the machine?

 

I had no problems with an unmatched pair of 4GB sticks, both at 1600Mhz. YMMV depending on the brand of memory you purchase.

 

Most ram distributors/sellers get their memory from the same few sources such as micron, Samsung, hynix, etc. so it's not a big deal to match memory from corsair, patriot, etc.

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Great to know that it does not matter as I have seen some people claim they did benchmarks with matched kit and unmatched and the matched showed higher speed but I guess that benchmarks are different from reality and even if so, it would be trivial.

 

the guy at this thread paired 1600mhz aftermarket memory with the 4gb stock 1600 and the computer dropped to 1333. when he removed the stock it worked again at 1600. when it was originally stock ram only, it also worked at 1600. it only dropped to 1333 when they were used together. (as far as i understand the thread)

so just try and see i guess

my in-process w530 has 4gb and i have 3x4gb coming in the mail so i'm gonna try them and see what happens

 

That is now confusing! I will share my experience with you when I try it and you do the same. What is the best tool to measure the actual RAM speed?

 

'winsat mem' does a good job. I've tabulated some memory and iGPU performance data for single/dual channel 1333Mhz-2133Mhz RAM at Performance: running 1600, 1866 or 2133Mhz DDR3 RAM in a 2560p.

Would be interested to see if someone could do the same for a IVB system to see if the RAM bottlenecks the faster HD4000 iGPU or if it too doesn't see much gain when running in dual-channel.

 

x230 with 8GB 1866mhz ram benchmarks:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/8613586-post175.html

 

Guys, if I bought the X230t and wanted to upgrade with an SSD of my choice, how involved/complicated
would it be to upgrade it myself and NOT buy their SSD options?

Ie, I could probably get a bigger and faster SSD for the same money.

Can one simply clone to drives or is the fact that the other one is a different
type going to make that impossible?

If I were to let someone else do it for me, could I get the discs with all the
current drivers from Lenovo including the OS or what?

Would this affect the warranty?

Thanks

George

 

Hi all i just bought a x230. Currently I am thinking of gg for a msata + hdd combo, but before i make the purchase i was wondering anyone has done it arleady and can feedback whether the msata is providing sata III or sata II speeds?

 

I might suggest getting the 500GB 5400RPM hard drive, then adding a mSATA SSD. That's a good balance between space and speed for the least cost. A 60GB mSATA should cost around $90 and should be plenty for a boot drive.


I believe the X230 is a SATA III, but there's little practical benefit to SATA III for most uses. The real benefit of a SSD is the near instantaneous seek times. Those won't change going from SATA II to III. I have the mSATA + HDD combo in my X220i. It's quite slick.

 

I am still waiting for my T430 to ship (ordered 6/5) and so all what I can do for now is asking questions!!

Is the problem with the mediocre display is just the viewing angles? Is there a problem with the brightness level too? I have also seen displays before that show a very faint bluish discoloration. Is that a problem with the T430(s) panel?

 

Well I compared the HD+ T430s (1600x900) display to my old T400s (1440x900) display. Physically the T430s is a tiny bit smaller, higher pixel density, so the pixel are smaller. But under magnifying glass the separation between pixel are a bit wider so people with very good vision may see it.

But the display is at 135dpi so you should set windows dpi accordingly.

And I do not have any problem with the color because I use a spyder4 to calibrate. Useful to do if you are editing photos.

 

good thing i am old and can't see

 

You are a professional photographer and use the T series?

 

I've done Adobe Photoshop Lightroom work with a T420. I found it adequate... though I am an amateur photographer.

 

What!? Is anyone else in the same boat? The site says roughly 5 days for them to ship out.

 

my T430 shipment will supposedly be delivered tomorrow :O

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I know it is unbelievable but that is the situation and you cannot 'penalize' lenovo. They have millions of customers and they do not need you!

 

Shouldn't they update the estimate to something more reasonable?

 

The nice thing is that they do not even update the new estimated ship date on the order page! I got enough of them that I no longer care

 

hrmm
looks like my w530 was shipped yesterday, altho no tracking number yet



sorry pchome

 

That's fine. Mine shipped too but just FYI, this information on the order page is not true and you can verify what I will tell you later once you get the tracking info. They actually printed the shipping label yesterday and make the order ready for pickup today but will not be picked up and scanned until tomorrow the least. You should receive it by Friday though. I just hope that I do not return the T430 due to the mediocre display.

N.B. The only funny thing in this situation is that you ordered 6/16 and I ordered 6/5 and we both had 6 days maximum estimated ship time frame but we ended up having both machines shipped at the same time!

 

any ideas where to buy a customised X1? Lenovo.com seems does not have it anymore ... Thanks

 

Last year's so-so X1? Or this year's supposed-to-be-hot X1 Carbon? Wait a couple of months to see what Lenovo offers in terms of specs, price, build and usability.