ThinkPad X1

Wow, that T430u looks like an X1 with a 14 inch screen. Unless they increased the footprint of the T430u relative to the T420 or decrease the footprint/thickness of the X2, there really is no reason to choose the X2.

 

I appreciate the innovation in the "instant media mode" on the X1 hybrid, I just don't think it'll be fully utilized by many like Lenovo is hoping.

As long as the T430u is customizable with some good specs, I also don't really see why you'd want a X2 unless you really want a 13" screen.

 

I suspect that the X2 will be the more premium ultrabook in the Thinkpad line-up. Intel has strict specs for 13" ultrabooks. HD+ display is a must. Lenovo is already putting one in the Yoga, so it should not be too much of a stretch to put one in the X2. Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga Hands On: An Ultrathin, Ultrabook Convertible

It was an interesting decision of Lenovo to hold-off news of its Thinkpad Ivybridge refresh for a few more months.

 

I am not surprised. You notice all of the business class machines and portable workstations are still under wraps. Not to mention all of the Windows 8 SoC tablet/slate devices.

The information embargo won't be lifted for some time. But I wonder what conference and event will be the Windows 8 coming out party for the OEMs. Guesses?

Windows World anyone?

 

screen resolution maybe a reason, not sure if Lenovo is game enough to do the Yoga for ThinkPad.

 

I have been watching both the Ivybridge and W8 developments quite closely as I will be replacing my Acer this Spring when IvyBridge is released and replacing my slate 500 with a new model when W8 is released. I think both of those will have their own release events. Intel has promised to promote and advertise ultrabooks in a big way, so I would assume that IvyBridge will have a significant amount of publicity when they are released.

I also noticed that HP's business class notebooks were not on display at CES as well. Maybe, given new product release dates and such, Microsoft is right to disconnect itself from CES as it may have run its course.

As for W8, I think we'll see the new tablets released in Q3 when W8 is released.

BTW ThorsHammer, here is the article I was referencing about Intel supporting Thunderbolt and USB 3 in Ivybridge notebooks. Intel to support USB 3.0 alongside Thunderbolt, coming with Ivy Bridge in 2012 -- Engadget I think the Acer S5 has already confirmed that as well. I am hopeful that this support will enable external GPUs. If that is the case, it would make it a lot easier for me to switch to an ultrabook like the X2.

 

Business laptop is no longer the money earner for the computer companies, the consumer market will be what they are aiming at. Also, who would get excited about the same laptop design getting redone over and over again (other than the diehards business laptop users).

CES is all about the Consumers and the latest gadgetry...

 

lead_org - I would say it is the Consumerization of Notebooks and IT in general that are driving sales currently. Users now want flashy, thin and light laptops that are able to transistion from work to home, to consume and create and looks good doing it.

I used to get ticked at our Desktop Teams because they tended to purchase our sales force these 6-8 lbs desktop replacements and couldn't understand why they left on their desks. I ran the consultant/trainers and I made sure my team had (at the time) the thin and light laptops to take into the field.

This is why gave up on my X series and moved to Windows Slates, Core i5 into a great form factor...

 

Only a couple of companies make these Windows Slates. I prefer the X2x0t laptops and probably won't buy a Core equipped slate until Lenovo makes one (hint to Lenovo).

But i can see how they are useful in many situations, given the OS and the specification, i do find my X61t and X201t bulky at times when i am using it as a tablet and find my iPad too limiting when i want to use windows based applications. So i guess Window Slate is a progeny of these two devices and offers the best of both world.

 

I completely agree I do carry a keyboard in my bag, if someone can create an Ultrabook Hybrid with the Active Digitizer and keep the specs, I'm in....but everything I'm seeing is that the Ultrabook Hybrids will only be touch...

 

Well, there will be a Thinkpad X230 hybrid along with the normal X230 (confirmed) so this means that there will most likely be a chassis revision in the X2xx series.

 

and this got something to do with ThinkPad X1?

 

Why, maybe they will introduce chiclet keyboard in X2xx refresh ?
Now that would make a storm among lots of ThinkPad fans and boards LOL.

One thing Lenovo could change is their naming scheme, simply keep it one letter and one number and thats it and simply call it "New XX model" whenever refresh is being released.
Except that for 11.6" X series they have wasted X1 model name on 13" machine

 

Thunderbolt port in the X2 please. External graphics over Thunderbolt in the works

PLEEEEEEASE?

 

Oh come on, you know if Lenovo had that working they would have trotted out some mock machine and patted themselves on the back at CES.

Maybe next year and the X3.

 

If Thunderbolt is natively supported on Ivy Bridge as Intel claims, I suspect that we will see a lot of new models with them, once Ivy Bridge is rolled out. Hoping anyway. The controler only costs $10.

 

Lets pray they will have looked at the Sony Z and said, "You know, we should do that for our customers."

I'm hoping we will see some interesting designs but they weren't apparent at CES. Yea, the MSI vdock was interesting but little else. It seems everyone is focused on Ultrabook designs and preventing further share erosion to Apple.

 

Acer, Asustek, Lenovo to offer Thunderbolt ultrabook PCs in 2Q12 The X2, with HD 4000 integrated graphics and Thunderbolt port for eGPU would be nearly an ideal setup. Add HD+, 300+ nits display that reproduces color decently, a matt or low glare finish on the display and my order will be in on the first day of preorder (my order would be in even without the matt finish but I can dream, can't I?).

 

just an fyi for anyone else who held off on getting the slice battery for the x1- there are a few on sale for $96.99 in the cdw outlet right now (and a bunch more listed at $149)

just search for lvo 39+

hth someone

 

Hi,

I'm a ThinkPad X1 owner and I was searching for an SATAIII mSata SSD. I found Runcore T50 Sata, but I didn't find any information about its compatibility with ThinkPad X1.

I wrote to MyDigitalDiscount support and they answered:

1) Does someone use Runcore T50 on a ThinkPad X1?
2) Is mSata capped to SATAII on X1?

Thanks

 

Lenovo has always indicated the PCIe card slot implementation for mSATA is SATA II, not SATA III. This should be sufficient for OS and apps use.

 

Looks like dual core mobile CPUs will be out the first week of May. X2 refresh by late June?

 

Late June is still Q2.

 

Bastages! Intel to postpone mass shipments of Ivy Bridge processors

Edit: Okay, that's better. http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26014-ivy-bridge-not-delayed

Nevermind. http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26087-ivy-bridge-pushed-back-to-june

 

1080p Super IPS display on 11.6" and 13.3" ultrabooks? Report: Asus Ivy Bridge ultrabooks to feature 1080p displays - Liliputing Looks like tablets are causing a real seed-change in craptastic notebook screen resolution. Wonder if Lenovo is paying attention.

 

It also looks like there will be a UX32 variant that will be around 1mm thicker, come with an optional nvida gpu, and the same optional 13.3 ips display, at around $200 less because of the standard 500gb hybrid HDD.

 

But did they fix the lame keyboard?

 

Looks like HP put a 35W quad in its 14" Elitebook (8460p).



This would be ideal in the X2 if they could cool it. I wonder if HP will be offering it in the Ivybridge refresh of the 2760p tablet? With a Hydus outdoor display, that would be a killer device. Even if they don't, swapping it should not be too difficult since it has the same TDP as the dual core I7.

 

Small issue- Lately my volume rocker button has been acting up- after coming out of sleep it does not work - I have to use my cursor to increase or decrease the volume on screen, after which the button works again

any ideas for fixes? anyone else having this problem?

 

did you recently update any firmware or drivers?

if not, trying a clean windows install or restoring your factory image might work, but that's a lot of work for you to do.

 

Are there any issues with the X1 and Samsung 830 SSDs? Just checking before I grab one for myself (killer deal for the SSD going on right now!).

EDIT: Finally installed the SSD (128 GB). For some reason Win 7 Pro 64-bit didn't like my 32GB flash drive. Was able to install the OS fine with a 4GB drive. The SSD works great though I'm getting numbers a tad lower from Magician compared to the theoretical max. speeds (SSD was about 15% full at the time of the test).

 

The X1 runs pretty warm when under pretty much any load as is. That being said I would love to for this to happen as well.

 

Although the original X1 comes the closest to satisfying what I want in a notebook (in 2011), the screen resolution presents a major deficiency. When I caught wind of the 1600x900 14 inch screen of the X1 Carbon, I immediately made plans to ditch the original X1 and grab the Carbon upon its release. After learning more about it -- such as its soldered on memory, unique SSD (which in the end translates to higher end-user cost for the same performance), and ULV CPU -- I became quite content with sticking with the original X1.

It is a subjective thing but I think the original X1 is better looking too without the drop down hinge. Who's with me??

 

I think the X1 is as good as any other Ultrabook, but those limitations come with all ultrabooks. If you don't want them, you should get something else. I find my X220i to be the perfect portable companion.

 

I personally don't like drop hinges as well, but at least the X1C's open to the full 180 degrees, which is something a lot of drop hinges don't do.

Also, from an appearance point of view, I would have preferred the hinge to be silver.

 

Yeah, it's weird not having the steel hinges.

 

the x300 steel hinges were painted black which is more expensive.

 

I think the hinges are still metal inside, but its covered with plastic on the outside.

 

I don't really see the point in having the screen open 180 degrees from a usage standpoint but I do see how it could prevent damage (and think it's a good idea).

I agree it should have been silver!

If you are referring to the original X1, the hinges might or might not be steel but they are definitely some sort of metal, and they are painted black.

 

Use cases for 180 degree opening:
-Standing over laptop while using it on a table.
-Keeping the screen out of the way while on a podium or something.
-Keeping the screen out of the way when using 2 external monitors, without external mouse/keyboard.

Also, most drop hinges barely make 130 degrees. Which is much more severely limiting than not opening to 180. Normally for lap use, my X220 is open to ~150.

 

I don't think any of the use cases would account for more than a single digit of the ThinkPad users. They are not common.

I think the feature is cool, but I don't believe laying the screen flat is something that is critical to the entire population of ThinkPad users.

 

Then count me as part of that single digit of Thinkpad users for which this is important. I am a field engineer and take my laptop out on site to communication sites. I use this feature extensively for field work for getting my laptop into tight spaces. For showing information to co-workers in the field. For ease of carrying. It is certainly an important feature for me and it is certainly one of the reasons I am a Thinkpad convert.

 

The ability for the ThinkPad to open to 180 degrees has been around for what, a decade?

What were we talking about again? Oh yea, perfect portable companions...

 

The X1 hinge is metallic with a matte paint coating on it (like it is on the X300/X301, which uses a lacquer paint).

 

Anyone else's hinge paint starting to chip off on the rear side of the machine? (the part of the hinge visible from the front is still pristine) I'm a little annoyed, just because my X1 has has such an easy life thus far.

It reminds me of the way the clearcoat on the titanium lid of my Z61t began to wear off- I believe that was caused by the same neoprene sleeve that I am using on my X1. I eventually removed all of the clearcoat using rubbing alcohol- but at that point the machine was ~4 years old- so I didn't mind experimenting.

fyi- The hinge is silver underneath- making the peeling super ugly.

 

nope my hinge is fine, i accidentally scratched my hinge last time, and it is pretty resistant to scratching and paint peeling. But maybe different people have different mileage on their machines.

 

hey guys, should i be worried, that my cpu hits 93 degrees celsius, when i'm gaming (cs:s, lol, d3, hl2, cs:go and so on)? it stays the whole gaming session around 90 to 93 degrees. i'm a bit worried that the electronics inside the notebook age faster as they get pretty hot, on the other hand i still have nearly 2 years nbd onsite warranty for it. what are your experiences with the temperatures of the x1 and what do you think i should do?

another question, do you guys also have the issue that the soft rubberish coating comes of on the left and right corner of the enclosure? (i mean the one where the keyboard is and not the lcd top cover)

 

no one, really?

 

There aren't very many X1 owners. Of the owners, I doubt many are gaming on it.

 

u r right i guess, that's why nobody is answering