ThinkPad X220 Info/Ordering/Shipping Thread

2410m Processor
2gb ram
320gb 7200rpm hd
Fingerprint reader
Bluetooth
9 cell
IPS screen
Webcam
$903

I think that equates to 16% off w/ 2-3 shipping

 

Okay, I'm gonna say it. You didn't really have to copy paste everything in your order. Who cares about your MS SBB LABEL? I think it would be better to just type in the real specs of what you ordered and the price if you want to show it to people.

 

With everything else the same, i5 model is $300 less. I would never spend that much more just for a cpu upgrade that will be obsolete in 5 years.

 

Any ideas why there is no Intel Centrino Advanced-N + WiMAX 6250 among the options for X220t?

 

No idea, maybe Lenovo just hasn't updated their website yet?

A few days ago we couldn't even pick i5 and i7 processors for the x220t, and the Gorilla glass panel and mSATA SSD still aren't options. My guess is they'll become available later on.

 

i5-2540m
HD display
Fingerprint reader + Camera
2 GB RAM
250 GB HDD
9 Cell Battery

$952.47 w/o tax--so $1009.62 total.

 

What is the sales price? From the visa site?

 

@.@ I just got a quote from Lenovo and it says an estimated ship date of 6/2/11. JUNE????????????

 

gahhhh random rep gave me 15% off their regular price on lenovo for a 220t config.

After much haggling, they give me about 19% off and threw in a 3 year warranty extension. But Costcentral has a very similar (but better) config here for cheaper and no tax. I think I will go with CC.

 

The CTO is more, and you can't choose the outdoor screen. No way to get 6250 wifi or micro sata options from either method, those are DIY for now. I don't want to wait until June either

I could trim the CTO price a bit by picking the cheapest HD since I have a SSD to install, but I actually have an older laptop to give to someone that could use a decent sata drive.

The best example is the one model which is <1300 at a couple places. CTO with the exact same specs and only 1yr warranty is 1634, you would need over 20% of discounts just to price match.

If you are on a tight budget but really want an IPS tablet, 4296-2WU is the cheapest option and best bang:buck.


edit: why did I open my mouth, my preorder from 2 weeks ago got ****ing cancelled and looks like outdoor screens are gone, so now I'm at the back of the line again and every online shop I would order from just closed for the weekend so I can't confirm diddly squat about what is still available

 

has anyone had any problems ever ordering from CostCentral? I also think I'm going to go with their pricing that is far better than Lenovo.com. I'm just a little worried about their return policy (basically no returns allowed).

I'd be able to return the laptop if it was, for example, missing or had different hardware in it, correct? If they screwed up somehow?

They seem pretty good otherwise; I just want to doublecheck before I drop all this money!

 

There are alternatives to CC. Call CDW or Provantage and see if they'll price match.

 

First time caller (reader), long time listener (poster) here...

I would like to know the functionality that you tablet buyers have for tablets. I don't have an iPad or android Pad (whatever they're called) but I can see from watching my cohorts cruise into meetings with them that they're fun. On the other hand, they all have real PCs also - laptops or desktops or both.

My thought is that a solid tablet pc like the X220T isn't the ultimate laptop and certainly not the ultimate content consumption tablet - but it certainly looks like a happy medium that would keep me from ever having to be in a situation where I tote around both. But maybe I'm dreaming, certainly on the pad side.

Laptop - it's a contender, no doubt. I had a thinkpad for 4 years and dug it just fine. I have a dell vostro 1400 now and it's fine, utilitarian, but fine. I hate that the X220 has such low vertical resolution. Why do they not have a better option (rhetorical question - don't answer). If I was buying laptop only, Sony Z would be my top choice - it is a very sexy and powerful laptop. But in the subcompact world, this one is certainly up there.

Tablet/iPad/xPad. I have never played with a PC tablet which sucks - I realize I should. But it's Windows 7 so I'm sure it's not comparable to an iPad or similar in terms of content consumption. But then again, I like the tablet part of tabs - using my fingers and inertial scrolling, but not the apps. I'm not into apps. What I would like to use a tablet for:
- playing with and showing off my zillion pictures with family.
- Web surfing (like this site for example, and my favorite sports team message boards - I read them a lot, post very seldom)
- Taking notes and sketching out designs in meetings. I am a product/architect guy and do a lot of whiteboarding. I like to think I could do this on a tablet but again, having never actually done it I don't know for sure. What application(s) are the ones of choice for drawing/saving/sharing sketches and diagrams on a tablet?

I guess the bottom line question is this: assume that I consider the X220 to be 80% as good as the Sony Z. Don't argue with me, that's my opinion. But if I thought I could get half of the value of a content consumption pad from the tablet capabilities of this Win7 machine, that would make the X220T a better investment than a Sony Z.

Any thoughts/suggestions/things I haven't considered? Thanks for taking my call - I'll hang up and listen.

 

Looks like Lenovo production are getting more order than they have anticipated. June 2, that's more than 1 month of waiting.

@Onewolf
You should check out Microsoft onenote.

 

It won't be as portable as a 1.5 lb slate, but for business use, the Wacom digitizer would be optimal. With Onenote, you would have a perfect whiteboard. It's still light enough to use as a great presentation device. Has the advantage of being a full notebook with a simple twist. Lighter slate devices are okay but only if you have a decently powerful notebook for serious work.

Bronsky

 

bit the bullet and ordered the X220T (42962WU) from CostCentral! can't believe I just spent all that money, but it will be so worth it!

 

Same here but I ordered (X220T) late last night and got the 6/2 date. I also ordered the slice battery separately thinking that the slice would delay the tablet order. Well, the slice date is 6/3.

I understand that Lenovo's date is generally considered worst case scenario but it's still 6 weeks !

 

Hm. Finally placed my order:

x220 tablet:
i7 2620
4GB RAM 1 DIMM
Multitouch Screen
Webcam
Bluetooth
Fingerprint reader
Centrino Wifi 6205
6-cell battery (no slice)
320GB 7200RPM hard drive
Windows 7 Pro 64bit

Total w/ shipping and tax and recycling fees and blah blah: 1617.54

I probably could have gotten a better price, but I felt that mucking around with all the reps for hours on end just to get another $30-40 discount wasn't worth it.


The estimated ship date on this however is 5/17 as opposed to the 6/2 that was originally quoted (for the exact same configuration I might add) so I'm not sure whats up with that.

 

How did you order the slice battery? I don't see in online anymore.

 

hell ya

 

It's a top seller model that isn't yet posted on lenovo. I ordered one from CC and spoke with a sales rep. It's on delay until next Friday - ETA with CC will receive it from Lenovo (says 2-3 weeks to ship on website so that makes sense).

The reason it's cheaper is this model is pre-configured. If you look at other models it may say they need to be built.

Also, since it has vpro I'm guessing this model is meant for corporate customers

... just my two cents - as I'm already in for one!

 

I am in a vertical market (medical practice-looking into implementing an electronic health records (EHR) system in my office). I currently own a Sony VAIO VGN-SZ 160P and was seriously considering purchasing one of the new Sony SA series or the soon-to-be released Sony Z series until I heard about the Lenovo x220 tablet. Its form factor appeared to be just what I needed for charting electronic medical records (EMR) on an unobtrusive tablet with great battery life. So I just ordered my x220t from the U.S. Lenovo/VISA website with the additional USPTHINK48HR coupon:

x220 tablet:
i5 2520M
8GB RAM 2 DIMM
Multitouch Screen
Webcam
Bluetooth
Fingerprint reader
Gemplus 54mm ExpressCard Smart Card Reader
Centrino Advanced Wifi N-6205 (2x2 AGN)
Integrated Mobile Broadband (Sierra Wireless MC8355 - Gobi 3000)
6-cell battery (no slice)
160GB Intel solid state drive
Windows 7 Pro 64
MS Office H&B 2010 / Adobe Acrobat X

Total $2,320.20 with VISA discount but before tax and before application of USPTHINK48HR discount coupon.

Also got the following service plans & accessories for $694.80:

3Yr Priority Onsite + 3Yr ThinkPad Protection
3Yr Battery
LoJack for Laptops Premium 3Yr license
LapLink PCmover Essentials
Lenovo 90W Ultraslim AC/DC Combo Adapter
ThinkPad Digitizer Pen
ThinkPad X220 Tablet Sleeve

So with the USPTHINK48HR coupon worth 116.01 and adding CA recycling fee of $6.00 and tax of $238.57, I had a grand total of $3,145.36. Lenovo calculated a total savings of $1,371.20.

Like chaosphoenix, I am also surprised that the estimated predicted shipping date is earlier than anticipated, in my case, 5/16/2011.

 

See below...

I an tell you that I went through that exact strategy of using a Tablet PC Convertible (as they are formally called) to be both my ultraportable laptop and tablet (same exact uses as you plan) and I learned the opposite of your (and once my) expectation: You don't get the best of both worlds with a Tablet PC, you get, well, not the worst, but sub optimal. As you have pointed out, if you want a great ultrportable laptop you get a SonyZ of the like, certainly not a Thinkpad, well anything (though the X220 is closest yet). And though the Thinkpad and it's competitor Tablet PCs from HP and Fujitsu (trust me, I've owned 8 of them!) will work fine for the tablet uses you have in mind, and better than an iPad would, they are mostly too heavy for convenient use in the tablet format as you describe it. Even 3.5 lbs gets heavy when you are carrying it - even resting it on your legs. A slate tablet between the size of the HP Slate 500 and the iPad make excellent lightweight, easy to bring anywhere, "companions," when you don't need a laptop but you need something bigger and more powerful than a smartphone. The major missing link between most slate tablets made since the iPad and the kind you (and I, and Bronsky) are looking for is the Win7/electronic notepad part. Only the HP Slate 500 and Asus EP121 are true slate, thin/light, full win 7 computers with pen and touch entry. But the EP121 is too big and heavy for the auxiliary slate we're talking about and the HP uses "Ntrig" pen writing technology, which has some real problems. Soon enough, someone will make a smaller, cheaper, W7 based slate with Wacom or a better version of Ntrig (used only because it's cheaper). Until then, I would either get a great ultraportable laptop and something like an HP Slate 500, but know that you can't take notes on it silently (ask Bronsky) or go ahead and get the X220t, but know that you will do best to sell it and replace it with the two-piece approach as soon as the ideal slate tablet comes out later this year.

What I'm saying is, life is better when you have two devices, not one. The slate tablet is so light, it adds nothing to your load if you need both available, but it is so light that you can often go out with a full computer but carry little more than 0.5" thick, 1.2lb device. Finally, when you need an awesome ultraportable computer, you use today's equivalent of the Z, not an "80%" solution that is the most any Thinkpad can be for anyone who otherwise admires the Z.

Last point: don't buy the malarky people put out about "Windows 7 not optimized for touch." That is about the most imbecilic statement any (large number of people) ever said! Of course it's "optimized" for touch! First, there is something called a TASKBAR filled with Icons that are easily big enough for any finger. That pretty much ends it. Then there are the unlimited OS overlays people like Lenovo put on their tablet PCs with - you guessed it - big, fat, programmable icons for people with fat fingers!

Be curious to know what you do and how it works out for you. Good luck.

 

A massive amount! Using 3DMark06 benchmarks as a rule of thumb, your X200t with GMA 4500 integrated graphics scores about 800; the HD3000 in the X220T scores over 3,500 - entry level discrete graphics board. Night and day!

 

Just curious: why are so many people posting about the X220T here, when there is a sister site, TabletPCReview.com, which has always been the place where people with tablet expertise congregate. You'll get much more useful advice there (I spent a year owning Tablet PC's; wouldn't steer you wrong

 

That forum is pretty dead compared to this one. Plus this is just all of us spazzing out about the x220 launch. Doesn't look like much on that forum regarding the x220t yet. Maybe after launch they'll have some more content, but they have far too few posters for my F5 spamming forum browsing habits

 

After I purchased the X220T, I searched for under accessories with the model number: 0A36280. Then purchased it as a separate transaction.

Hope this helps.

 

Hey guys, I can afford to get i5 or the i7 with the usb 3.0 but i don't want to because i'm trying to reduce the cost as much as possible.

I was a previous owner of the x120e with the dual core fusion e-350 and one of my issues with it was that it felt really anemic with the overall usage. So basically I configured the x220 to as low as $850+ shipped. I want to know how fast the base i3-2310m will be vs the dual core e-350 fusion from x120e.

Thanks

 

you can see the processor benchmark on notebookcheck.de

the base i3 will be far superior to the E350. i'm not sure what you mean by anemic, because unless you're doing really processor intensive tasks, the bottleneck may be a slow HDD or not enough ram.

 

Are you kidding?! I don't know the numbers, but i3 will kick butt. I also had a x120e, but sold it since I wanted to upgrade my x61t tablet. The CPU is the bottleneck for x120e. I had intel SSD, 8GB ram, but I still felt the slowness.

If I were you, I would go for at least the i5 so you don't miss out on the turbo clocking. It's not just about extra 0.2 GHz difference that you are getting.

From lenovo.com/spp it's $933 after 5% off for following: i5-2520, W7 home x64, no fingerprint, webcam, intel wifi 6205, sleeve, and the rest of them default. If you don't need to use VMWare or virtualization software, you should downgrade the cpu to default i5-2410 and save another $50. This will make it about $883.

I'm still on the border on placing my order. It seems tomorrow on Saturday, lenovo want us to call to place an order and save up to 10%. Right now, the 5% off coupon still works so I don't know which would be better.

 

how come no one is going for the i7? if not for the faster processor?

 

I went for the i7 personally as I do frequent HD video encoding and work in Photoshop CS5 and the cost difference, for me, will likely only factor out to around $50 or less per year, which is more than acceptable for me to increase the speed of my tasks.

 

let's see if the x200 brings me back to the thinkpad side. I got the i7 too. the screen is the major deciding factor. If it's good, then it's a keeper.

 

IPS isn't good enough?

 

might be too small... we'll see. I haven't had an IPS screen since the T42 <- favorite laptop. Now, if I could put os x on the x220, I'm golden. My quad core MBP is a workhorse. video encodes take no time at all.

 

On the screen size, I've used the 11.6" x120e/Alienware m11x and the 12.1" Asus Vx6, Do you think the 12.5" will make it more comfortable and noticeably bigger than the 11.6"? I compared 11.6 to 12.1 and it's really close so I'm guessing 12.5 is more closer to 13".

 

Fair enough. Problem is, there haven't been many new tablet PCs in over a year, so there's not much for the tablet people to get excited about. Take a look at the HP slate 500 buzz around the time it came out and you'll see how many of them come out of the woodwork, lol! Plus, the X220t (vs X220) did not receive much press at all until the last couple of weeks, so I imagine you'll start to see more action there soon. People here seem to think the tablet is just the notebook with a screen that wraps around, and it is far different - far more expensive too

 

Someone on this thread said that the 2410 can still run a virtual machine. Not sure if that's true though.

In any case, on top of the higher clock and turbo, the 2520 has a higher graphics clock (1300 MHz) than the 2410 (1200 MHz) and is probably worth the extra $50 for that reason alone, imho.

 

I'm not saying VMWare won't work without i5-2520m. i5-2520m supports VT-d (directed IO) in addtion to VT-x found on both i3-2310m and i5-2410m. I'm saying you should get better performance in VMWare with i5-2520m. CPU comparison: Compare Intel® Products,

I don't think the graphics clock differences would make much difference since nobody will be pushing this thing for gaming.

 

As always, interesting perspective. Two specalized devices may, in fact, be better than one with compromises. I will say that, other than the usual desire for more power, better graphics and smoother inking, I am quite pleased with my current set-up.

Bronsky

 

I'm thinking of ordering the X220Tablet Mfg Part #: 429637U from Cost Central.

Can anyone give me a reason not to order this model, or to not order it from Cost Central? (The price seems surprisingly low).

And I'm a bit confused by the optional warranty plans. The "Lenovo ThinkPlus Priority Support with ThinkPad Protection" is $110, but the "Lenovo ThinkPad Protection BASICLenovo ThinkPad Protection BASIC" is $280, even though the former seems to include the latter.

What am I missing?

Thanks.

 

I've been contemplating on buying from non-Lenovo site as well. The machine I configured turned out to be not as good deal on Lenovo's site. Since I live in CA, Costcentral will charge me tax. So I'm going to go thru Provantage. For the model I want, it'll be $1305. This will include shipping. This is the cheapest I can find so far.

 

I've ordered and received ThinkPads twice from Cost Central (a T42 and a X220). Went smooth both times. Never tried to return anything...

 

I see you got the non-Tablet i5; I'm thinking of the Tablet i7. What was your reasoning for non-Tablet and for i5? (I should note that the i5 tablet with ultrabase is actually more expensive than i7 configured the same way on Cost Central, which is part of what worries me.)

 

I've never owned a tablet or tablet-like device such as the iPhone. The touchscreen and/or pen input just doesn't interest me that much. Also, I am just a little leery of the durability of the hinge and cable assembly of the tablet (speculation). The tablet model is about 1/2 pound heavier than the non-tablet model. Finally, when I ordered the X220 on March 9th, the tablets weren't for sale yet (IIRC). At least they weren't in the latest tabook at the time.

As far as choosing the i5; all the i7 preconfigured models at the time came with the 9-cell battery which I did not want because it sticks out the back. The cost of going with the i7 and buying a 6-cell battery would have been close to $300 more than the model I chose. Too much extra cost for me.

 

It's more expensive and not really that much faster. In some fields it would a wise decision to go for i7 - but I don't see it as the very popular unit in X220. If it would be a quad core... well, another matter.


M.

 

Hi guys. Will SSDSA2MH160G2C1 Amazon.com: Intel 2.5-Inch 160 GB X25-M Mainstream SATA II MLC Solid State Drive OEM SSDSA2MH160G2C1: Electronics fit in this hard drive slot?

My cousin just told me he can sell me one but hes out of contact for the weekend

Edit: OK Nvm. I just saw the thread under this one. Looks like it should work as I believe it has a spacer

 

I think the 12.5" will be somewhat similar to a 13" laptop. Going from an 11.6" to 12.5" may not see like much, but in reality every little bit counts.

 

FWIW, the Intel 320 160 GB SSD is cheaper on newegg.com and from the specs, it would appear that the 320 has faster write speed than the X25-M.

 

I'm debating this very issue right now and have been drawn to the tablet version so that I could make notes on presentations and pdfs using the pen, browse the web with my fingers, and possibly do some photoshop with the pen. I've heard that WACOM digitizers are some of the best, and that's what Lenovo's using for the x220t.

So I'm wondering: did you find your combo set up suboptimal because of the added weight issues or...? The x220t is listed at about 4lbs with the 6 cell battery vs the x220 which is listed at about 3.7lb with the 9 cell and 3.3 with the 6 cell. I think if I went the x220 route, I'd get the 9 cell. Will 0.3lbs feel like a huge difference if I'm carrying it around all day?

Was the convertible tablet-ultraportable combo worse than its ultraportable only counterpart in any other way?

Thanks!