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    Upcoming Y480/Y580 series feat. Ivy Bridge and NVIDIA graphics!

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by yknyong1, Mar 9, 2012.

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    its already out with sandybridge and gt 640m LE but those ar the most basic options we gotta wait 4 more days for ivy :p
     
    PaKii94, Apr 19, 2012
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    i highly doubt it since very few 15 in notebooks are getting 660m let alone 14 in. Even if it does get it its either going to be crippled or it will have heat problems. unless lenovo does magic :)
     
    PaKii94, Apr 19, 2012
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    I'm hoping for a 640M
     
    dp3000, Apr 19, 2012
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    lenovo has a g series....with dedicated graphics????? please elaborate ur confusing me becuase the y series is their best line in terms of performance.
     
    uopnvidia, Apr 19, 2012
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    wait my bad ignore any previous comment I made about G series lol. been commenting on all these new ivy bridge comps and Im mixing them up :p that was actually suppose to go for the Asus N56 thread. I was saying that the 660m goes into the ROGamers series xP
     
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    but yeah the y480 isnt going to have a 660m. Its for 15 in or bigger. that card is going in the asus gamer series, the gigabyte gamer comp and i belive the y580 is gonna get it also
     
    PaKii94, Apr 19, 2012
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    Y580 Dimensions
    15.16 x 10.04 x 1.41 inches

    Y480 Dimensions
    13.58 x 9.41 x 1.29 inches

    You could very well be right, but the height difference between the two models is 0.12 inches, and the landing page for the y480 states those gpu models as options.
     
    bzh2, Apr 20, 2012
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    Chances are the rep simply looked at the DO list. I'd love for it to be correct, but since the DO list didn't even mention the 640 LE, well, you get the picture.
     
    M47R1X, Apr 20, 2012
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    I had a few conversations with reps and none of them could confirm what the final specs actually are, although I assume 650M is in the cards since its on the webpage AND on the spec sheet.

    I had two reps tell me April release is not happening, that it will come in May. Also, that it won't be customizable but will come in several options which will be consistent. So I assume the more expensive model will have the 650M in it, I just hope it isn't bloated with other crap and costs $1400.
     
    VideSupra, Apr 20, 2012
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    The i7-3610qm with the GT 640 LE is 999 right now- I would suspect the upgraded card would cost in the 100-200 range. Upgrading the 670m to 675m is $100. Clevo 150ERQ barbones is $569 with the GT 650m 2gb GDRR5 version -no HDD, no OS, no wifi, no CPU, no ram - which would cost $500-$600. So $1400 for a y480 with a GT 650m is a little steep.
     
    FMruss, Apr 20, 2012
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    You forgot to discount the mobo and the chassis. I think if the 650 is offered it will be in a model no more than 300 dollars more. Only question is 650 ddr3 or 650 ddr5. If the top gpu option for this device is a 650 ddr3 I'm wasting my time thinking about it.
     
    bzh2, Apr 20, 2012
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    Can you explain the difference? If its ddr3 is there another comporable machine I should be looking at?
     
    VideSupra, Apr 20, 2012
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    even tho the height diff isnt much, the parts are going to be more spread out and they can put another fan in there for cooling
     
    PaKii94, Apr 20, 2012
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    Sigh... refused my delivery by not opening it up and dropped it off at a UPS retail place. The screen is really turning me off on this one and I might migrate to something better. We'll see what comes.
     
    FMruss, Apr 20, 2012
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    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, the GTX 660m option for both 480 and 580 are MXM compatible ? And is there higher screen option
     
    wild05kid05, Apr 20, 2012
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    i highly doubt its mxm. and there is fhd for the 580 i think 900p for 480
     
    PaKii94, Apr 20, 2012
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    Wish they did but Lenovo's solder their GPUs on the MB. Hence my wish for an expresscard slot, thunderbolt or open mini-pcie slot for an egpu for your next upgrade and be smokin at the same time. Clevo/Sagers on their top ends, have the MXM upgrade option as they do not solder the GPU.
     
    FMruss, Apr 20, 2012
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    I have never seen a soldered GTX mobile card.
     
    wild05kid05, Apr 20, 2012
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    all the asus ROG comps :p they all got gtx x60ms
     
    PaKii94, Apr 20, 2012
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    Ithink there are a lot of misinformation floating around. There aren't GTX or GT 650m on the Y480. So far wesee GT 640m LE
     
    wild05kid05, Apr 21, 2012
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    We've only seen the first model. All official spec sheets say the machine goes up to a 650M. Sales reps said there will be multiple versions of the Y480 - I'm assuming one of the higher end ones will pack the 650M. It's not even officially released by Lenovo yet, too early to call anything final.
     
    VideSupra, Apr 21, 2012
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    I think it's very possible to swap the screen for a 900p from ThinkPad S430
     
    wild05kid05, Apr 21, 2012
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    I dont think u will need to... i think there is anupgrade available for 900p
     
    PaKii94, Apr 21, 2012
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    Never seen that before for the Y4xx haha
     
    wild05kid05, Apr 21, 2012
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    yeah i think its for the y480, there wasnt a fhd option for 5xx's either but now there is :p
     
    PaKii94, Apr 21, 2012
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    Yeah, theres an FHD option for the 580 but Ive never seen talk of one for the 480. I just want the damn full set of options to come out so I can decide if its worth it.
     
    VideSupra, Apr 21, 2012
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    I'm still torn between this and a S430 with TB eGPU. The Y480 still seems heavy for me, if I were to get the Y, I would swap the HDD into the ODD place..
     
    wild05kid05, Apr 21, 2012
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    Honestly, the big drawof the 480 was a 650M Kepler GPU in a small machine. If that ends up being a lie, there's no big advantage to the 480 over competitors, some of whom WILL be running the 650M.
     
    VideSupra, Apr 21, 2012
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    ya the y480 is too bulky if it doesnt have a good gfx card
     
    PaKii94, Apr 21, 2012
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    But the 640m LE overclocked scoring over 13,000 in 3DMark still packs a whallop but why would you settle? 650M is considered as a first tier graphics card by notebookcheck. 650M overclocked would easily score 17 to 18,000.
     
    FMruss, Apr 21, 2012
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    Yall should consider 0.8" thick & less than 4lbs S430 with optional 2GB GDDR3 NVIDIA (I highly believe it would be either GT610 or 630). Now that plus TB eGPU (2.0 x4 ~ 70-80% of desktop GPU).

    Starting without discrete GPU is around 749$. I think it's more future proof as you have TB
     
    wild05kid05, Apr 21, 2012
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  34. Karamazovmm

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    and you still pack the ODD for a caddy insertion with a 1tb HDD in there and a good ssd in the main bay.

    Im quite liking the model, I do hope that the T430u packs a TB port, it would be one awesome thing if it does

    Im hoping for a 640m in there, the kepler variant btw, not the heater gt 555m
     
    Karamazovmm, Apr 21, 2012
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    It is slot loading I believe- not tray loading; that would not be swappable I think.
     
    FMruss, Apr 21, 2012
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    its possible. envy 15 is slotloading but people have done it :D i would consider the edge but i just dont like the design of the keyboard and touchpad =\
     
    PaKii94, Apr 21, 2012
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    No, it's the regular ODD tray. Even Lenovo will offer optional 2nd HDD in there and get rid of the ODD if you wish
     
    wild05kid05, Apr 21, 2012
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    Please, I hoping it's not less than a 640M in the S430 even with a TB port (eGPUs are going to be expensive). I may have to go with the refreshed samsung series 7 instead but it is hard to move away from the trackpoint.
     
    dp3000, Apr 21, 2012
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    what gpu is the s7 gonna have?
     
    PaKii94, Apr 21, 2012
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    the s430 certainly will not have anything better than 630m because of thermal design. and it's a business notebook not entertainment. tb egpu isnt as expensive a you may think, estimated price for the msi gus ii housing is roughly 100-150$ then add 100-200$ for which ever < 150w gpu you want. there you go
     
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  41. Karamazovmm

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    the kepler design is better in terms of tdp, just going to throw this here...
     
    Karamazovmm, Apr 21, 2012
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    S430 is sounding better with my needs- a new 470 can be had right now for $749 i7-2670qm, 6 gb ram, 7690m. But i7-3610qm is faster than even i7-2920xm- and I need a lot of CPU power for sorting my database. Darn it! Where is Haswell when you need it?
     
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    Not sure, but the current model has a 6750m which is pretty good. So I'm expecting a graphics card of the same class.
     
    dp3000, Apr 22, 2012
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    I disagree, the S430 is just a bit thicker, I think, than the Acer Timeline Ultra M3 that is currently available with a 640m card. The laptop has no major problem with heating considering it is using a sandy bridge processor. I therefore see no reason why they can't use a 640m, unless they didn't design a good ventilation system for the laptop.
     
    dp3000, Apr 22, 2012
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    Is there a list somewhere of Ivy laptops that will have 650M+ GPUs? Is the Y480 the only one that isnt 15"+?
     
    VideSupra, Apr 22, 2012
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    The Clevo W110ER has one and will be Ivy here in a few days, and she's an 11.6"-er.
     
    M47R1X, Apr 22, 2012
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    ^ way too small
     
    wild05kid05, Apr 22, 2012
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    Agreed. Even though Ill be plugging it into a monitor to play thats too small to comfortably work on without a monitor I think.

    The new 14" alienware will have it, and up to a x900 screen, but the cost is $500 higher than the Y480 (theoretically). I guess well have to wait and see for the final specs on potential Y480 models.

    IB is supposed to drop next week right?
     
    VideSupra, Apr 22, 2012
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    ^ NDA supposedly lifted tmr at 10 PST
     
    wild05kid05, Apr 22, 2012
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    AM I assume? Also, that means all the producers will release official spec sheets right?
     
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