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    Y50 Replacement Displays Compendium

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Ramzay, Jun 21, 2014.

  1. giangy.della

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    To fix it, I need to launch a screen retention fix (flashing Feb images) for some minutes..
     
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    Hi guys.
    I am going to order a replacement screen from AliExpress soon.
    Which sellers did you try? Do you have any recommendations or warnings?
     
  3. Derek712

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    Odds are, the Panasonic VVX16T029D00 will fit. It's a 3k display used in the GS60. I'm assuming it will fit since there are also GS60 models that have the same 4k screen as the Y50. It's not 4k, but has nicer yellows, 60 Hz and will probably play games nicer at native resolution. There are also less scaling issues.
     
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    Just ordered AUO B156HAN1.1 and immediately regret my decision: as I can see, based on feedback in this thread, chances are extremely small that it will be without any defects.
    However, as I understand both AUO and LG panels suffer from so known 'ghosting' issue.

    Maybe it makes sense to collect all this information and update 1st post?
     
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    I agree.. the screen is nicer by a landslide , but there are a lot of issues with it.. now a random pixel died after a week of use.. and the ghosting is getting worse.
     
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    Hi guys ... I'm interested in purchasing a Y50 laptop, but this screen issue is deterring me .. Do all Y50's have these issues, or just some specific models within the series ? Changing the screen is something I'd rather avoid ..
     
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    All Y50s have bad screens. In my opinion if you need a good display get the Y50 and change the display or go for another laptop.
     
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    Judging by the size of this thread and the internet information, I know you're right. But then again I wonder why Lenovo doesn't solve these issues which apparently so many are facing.

    Are all Lenovo laptops prone to this issue, or just the Y50s ? What about neighboring series, such as Y40 or Z50, etc. ?
     
  9. ATG

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    The Y50s just got bad quality screen, that's all. I don't think its fixable unless they go for a refresh, like Y51 series or something. Lenovo chose to keep the price range low on this model and in the meantime have some nice components in it so they had to compromise with other components like crappy display, keyboard and touchpad. Not to mention there are other annoying issues with this model though I'm pretty sure they are fixable however Lenovo still won't admit they exist so it might take a long time to fix them.

    No idea about the other series, there are discussions around here you might want to check them out, there is a dedicated Y40 thread for sure, no idea about the Z50.
    I don't think all Lenovo models are crappy but honestly next time I buy a non-business class Lenovo laptop it won't be a brand new model but at least a 3rd refresh of the model lol.
     
  10. Elocai

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    Y50 UHD Replacement:

    Could anyone open up a new Thread like "Y50 UHD Display Compendium" ? It´s very hard to filter all the posts that are about the UHD panels and so on.

    So here is some Information i can share to you:

    I tried the legendary Display of the Y500, that is LVDS, of course size and holes wouldn´t fit but the signal "should". The Y50 boot up, but the panel stays black.
    I tend to believe now that it is a eDp port, and they just used the LVDS cable/connectors that are just totaly equally to the 40pin eDp OR they have a diffrent pin/signal layout.

    Funny as it sounds, but the same problem was already a problem of the Lenovo Yoga 2 and was fixed (silently abaout a year Later) by a bios update -> energy management update.
    The Y50 changes brightness and yellow tone depending on markings or white partial size in the image, so it sounds very similiar to me.

    Still im very interested in changing the display because i normally used the y500 for Photoshop and so on.

    Panasonic VVX16T029D00 sounds interesting but can anyone confirm that it should work by x% ?

    Any news on 48hz problem? Or can anyone tell me a panel that actually will fitt?

    For any FHD owner -> DON´T LOOK FOR CHANGING TO THIS 4K panel -> it sucks, and technically it isn´t even a 4k panel.
     
  11. Splintah

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    mine is showing up in device manager as AUO36ED which I'm assuming is the edp version. Fingers crossed.
     
  12. lm_aquarius

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    Well, opening an 'UHD fix' thread seems as a really nice idea.
    It will be really nice, if Lenovo issues a firmware that fixes the energy managment adaptive brightness setting. Is there any info, whether they're working on this?
     
  13. Derek712

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    Maybe I'm wrong but shouldn't they all be edp? Lenovo didn't make different motherboards for different screen models, did they?
     
  14. Elocai

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    They did. The FHD-Model has 30-Pin eDp and the UHD has a 40-Pin eDp/LVDS/??? (no one could confirm anything) connector. This is why i´m demanding to split thist thread, because of common sense the panels mentioned for FHD Y50 won´t fit in a UHD Y50 model.
     
  15. arash_illusive

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    I can confirm that it's not LVDS for sure. I tried 3 different LVDS panels just to see if it works. And didn't.
     
  16. IunLhiang-Chiou

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    Someone bought a sharp LD156D1JX01 UHD panel for replacing, but I can't contact with him. So I can't make sure if it works... And if interface pin pitch is different from LTN156FL02-L01?
     
  17. IunLhiang-Chiou

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    There is the Panel port in the motherboard:
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    arash i can confirm that it isn´t LVDS tried one LVDSs Panel too (from Y500)

    lunliang yeah someone told me that the sharp LD156D1JX01 won´t fit because of diffrent pitch (site 80 or so in this thread) but don´t know if anyone tried - couse this panel is superb in all ways - im very interested in this case
     
  20. IunLhiang-Chiou

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    For the same pitch, I'm interesting in Panasonic VVX16T020G00. For LQ156D1JX01, he doesn't return the panel to the seller, the seller told me it should be work. If it didn't work, he must return it, because it costs $133 for each one.
     
  21. tj92

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    just change the screen on the Y50 to the AUO brand IPS AHVA B156HAN01.2 MYY GODDDDD
    that is a HUGE difference. I AM LOVING THIS SCREEN. Is there any drives available for download for the AUO screen?????
     
  22. arash_illusive

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    I know that Panasonic VVX16T020G00 wont fit. somebody already tried on the forum. I am thinking that it's because the display color on the high res ones are 16.7M (8bit) and the lower resolutions are 262K (6bit). I have no knowledge on hardware limitations, but my point is that to me it seems that they (lenovo and samsung) cheated to put a very cheap panel in the name of 4K with all low quality desigs. I mean since you are doing photoshop (I am a graphic designer too), if you open a color gradient, you will see very bad tear lines where colors are shifting to the other, and no smooth transitions on colors! So I mean something seriously is wrong with the panel (other than yellow issue which was never resolved completely on Yoga 2) . And to me they kept the low specs on all the design elements on FHD model, and just cheated somehow to market it as a 4K panel! So I mean I assume that the replacement panel for UHD should be very similar to FHD models. And we should look for a HD panel replacement with good color gamut.

    So all of my guesses comes to this one in my opinion:

    B156HAN03.0
    B156HAN03.0 Datasheet download - Panelook.com

    Every single specs are very similar to the panels which others used for FHD model, except that it's 40pin with 0.5mm pitch (which will fit the UHD model).

    I really want to get that screen and try, and the reason that I don't is after I tried three LVDS panels, I've got a blue screen couple of days later. And now I live with the stress of the blue screen coming every sec! hahaha! I assume that the screen connector is very sensible and cannot be play around much. So I kind of don't want to take the risk other that I would be sure it will work...

    To me B156HAN03.0 is the last option for the screen replacement for UHD model..
     
  23. Derek712

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    Nobody has ruled out the Panasonic VVX16T029D00 yet, have they? Considering the gs60 has the same 4k panel as the y50 and the gs60 also has the Panasonic VVX16T029D00, they should be interchangeable.
     
  24. arash_illusive

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    I've checked the model that arcticjoe tried back in Dec which was
    VVX16T010J00 VVX16T010D00 New 15.6" LCD for ASUS UX51VZ-A1 | eBay
    Not sure if it has different specs on connections and etc.But seems as same product line as Panasonic VVX16T029D00.

    Do you have any confirmed info that the 4K panel on gs60 is same as Samsung FLLTN156FL02L01? I have not found any complain on yellow color for gs60 4K edition. and not any 48hz (as both of these issues are hardware limitation of the panel as it has been officially confirmed by Lenovo technician). I mean it has to have same issues if it uses same panel. So I doubt that it has same panel.
     
  25. IunLhiang-Chiou

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    I have found someone complain on 48hz for gs60 4k.
    [​IMG]
     
  26. Derek712

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    The hardware Id is the same and this person noticed the yellows. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=9827876

    You can confirm with him the exact model in hwinfo, if you want. I'm not sure if there's any chance of having the same id. There's not going to be a lot of 4k gs60 owners because of the lack of availability and the forewarning of the type of panel.
     
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    Oh I see. Thanks for the info.

    What I've just found is both VVX16T010D00 and VVX16T029D00 panels are both marked as "for ASUS UX51VZ-A1". So I believe VVX16T029D00 would work as the other didn't on y50.
    I think the panel technology (the cable and maybe even the connector on the motherboard) on gs60 3K and 4K are different like y50 FHD and UHD.
     
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    Is this the FHD or the UHD model? It says "JEDP1" next to it--there's hope for me if the motherboard plug is the same on both models...
     
  29. IunLhiang-Chiou

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    It's the UHD model.
     
  30. IunLhiang-Chiou

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    edit: Deleted…
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2014
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    so they are identical and should work aight?
     
  32. IunLhiang-Chiou

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    yes, but nobody have confirmed that. and interface model (interface pin pitch) should be different. It's the most problem.
     
  33. Elocai

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    so how about if we just take the normal y50 40pin cable, and one with this pitch, and just cut them and solder together so we have something like a pitch adapter at the end, then technicaly this schould be working? My Y50 UHD is at Lenovo Support at the moment (couse of this ty display), when it comes back i´m willing to try this, but it could take 2 or 3 weeks.
     
  34. IunLhiang-Chiou

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    20525-040E-02(I-PEX) is the interface we need now. but maybe we need to get more info.
     
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    Guys, question: What kind of screws used for LCD?
     
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    So far I went through 3 Panels of B156han01.2..

    First one had a black vertical Strip in the middle, returned it.
    Second one- Was good, had a super tiny finger nail scratch in the middle, after 3 days of using.. noticed ghosting when I went back to my desktop after browsing the internet.. asked for a replacement..
    Third one - Started to use it for one day, and this one is even worse than the second panel. Its ghosting is horrible, I was watching a movie, and it I see a window for all my icons, and after finishing playing a 1 hour game of league of legends, I hit back my "windows key" and I see the BOXES of my game burned into the back ground of the home screen.. and icons and boarder all over the place. ( some image retention even had a odd red color to it )

    Overall, I am disappointed with this panel. I will keep the second panel and return the third one I just received, because the ghosting on the second one is manageable.. still better than the OEM panel that came with the Y50.. But I will keep an eye for it, as I found a random dead pixel the 5th day of using the second panel. I do really love this panel, but I was expecting a better quality..

    Is there a way to prevent image retention/ghosting?

    Other than this main issue, this panel is 10/10.
     
  37. torporsche

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    Has anyone had any luck finding a replacement for the Y50 Touch? According to HWInfo the panel is AUO B156HTN03.6. Any suggestions?
     
  38. Derek712

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    If you can figure out a way of removing the panel without breaking the glass, it's no different than the replacements on this thread. I've never heard of anyone successfully doing it though.
     
  39. p13rr0t

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    Just installed my B156HAN01.2 panel from lcdtech889 (they have them in stock and it is NOT necessary to add message that you don't want 'compatible' model. Original panel was AUO 3.6), so overall panel is way better than original, however mine has 2 dead pixels =(
    Will look for ghosting issue, if no major ghosting will appear, I will probably stick with this panel.

    It seems that it is very hard to find LG IPS panel these days.

    UPD: Forgot to mention that it is really very easy to replace LCD in this notebook, however next time I will think 2 times before buying smthn from lenovo.
     
  40. ajvitaly

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    Nope, I bought the from ebay seller LCDTECH889. I'm currently on my third screen. The first screen has what I now call minor ghosting / image retention. The second screen was horribly dim. No brightness whatsoever. Third screen suffers from moderate to severe screen burn / image retention. The screen shot I provided in my previous post is third screen.
     
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    I'm not sure when exactly the issues cropped up on the first screen, but it was about 3-4 weeks until I noticed it. The image burn of that screen was minor. The current screen I'm on I noticed after a day or two and now it drives me nuts because it is way more pronounced. :( On top of that, the first screen which had less noticeable image burn was also subjectively brighter.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback. Shouldn't it be possible to buy a new panel that has the digitizer attached so there isn't a need to remove the glass on the old one? Or if I don't care about retaining the touch screen can I just replace the panel and omit the glass?
     
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    guys, what is ghosting? ought that i too hav that kind of problem
     
  44. m1ko

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    Happens when you play COD:ghosts for too long, and you see ghosts playing on your computer.
    basically it has to do with your inability to Google
     
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  45. Derek712

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    You still have to get it out. I'm assuming a lot of glue or tape is involved, similar to modern cellphones and tablets. I don't think the digitizer is sourced with the screen. I've seen other touch laptop vendors source the screen but never with the digitizer or the digitizer by itself.
     
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    Ok, thanks. I don't care about the touch capabilities that much so do you see any issue with putting a non-touch screen in and foregoing the digitzer? Or are you saying that removing the panel on the Y50 Touch is hard regardless of what I do with the digitizer? I am thinking of pulling the original panel, leaving the digitizer on it and then just putting a replacement panel in without touch capabilities.

    I know the LCD bezel is different on the Y50 Touch but I found a place that sells standard Y50 bezels so that shouldn't be an issue.

    Thanks again for yor help!
     
  47. Derek712

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    I'm not sure how hard it would be if you're planning on removing both and not reusing the digitizer. It's a big unknown since nobody has really tried it. I think if you're careful enough, you should be able to remove it somehow, but you should only do it if you don't care about accidentally breaking it. If you're planning on going non-touch, having the Y50 bezel is a must because the non touch models all have them and the touch models are edge to edge glass. If it were me, this is what I would have on hand: heat gun(blow dryer might do), multiple plastic opening tools, suction cups, replacement double sided tape(1mm and 2mm cell phone tape), tons of patience. I would lightly use the heat gun at a low temperature and try to work an edge with a suction cup and a plastic opening tool to see what your up against. Hopefully it's just tape and it'll eventually give. The tape they use now is so strong that the glass would probably crack before it gives, unless you heated it up a little. Once you break the ice, you should be able to just work out all the edges. The LCD is also very delicate, so there's that too. Again, I wouldn't even attempt it if you care about breaking something. However, if you're going to be the pioneer, please take lots of pictures and tell us how it goes. :)
     
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    I am really considering it so if I give it a shot I will definitely post some pictures!
     
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    The touch screen is quite expensive to replace if broken. I was going to get one with touch and replace the screen but decided against it because of the lack of information about replacement.
     
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    Whats the best, most expensive screen I can replace this lenovo y50 with? anybody wanna send me some links of a screen to try out? Price does not matter to me
     
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