Y50 Thread

I see so many complaints about the display
is it that bad?
how does it compare to a , say HP envy 15?

 

I connected my Y50 to a 2 year old Samsung 22 inch tv I had and the colors look much better on that even though the screen quality isn't as high. I prefer using the bigger screen anyway

 

hey sorry to trouble you again...You said you have the Y510p?
is the Y50 display worse than that? I have seen the Y510p display and it's ok for me..
I went through your comments but couldn't find a comparison between the two..
maybe someone who has the y510p can take side by side photos and post?

 

Y510p supposedly is noticeably better than the y50 display based on reviews, with y510p covering 80-90% of sRGB and y50 covering an abysmal sub 60%...

Although if someone who has both could post pics of side by side comparisons that would be great

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Big resolution = poor performance in games.

 

i am using a matte foil on my iphone ._.

but to be frank, i did that to prevent smearing on the screen mostly - works wonderfully

i <3 matte ._.

 

And why would they do that? You got a laptop with a working screen ( a crappy one ) unless there is a defect with the screen itself I don't see that happening.

I was going to buy this for someone but glad I didn't, shame on LENOVO for getting so much right but then ruining everything they did right by using a really bad screen.
I mean they could have so many more sales if they just used a decent screen and charged an extra $50, I see people jumping ship and I don't blame them, the screen is extremely important to a lot of people, hell if your going to be staring at it for a long time it might as well be a good panel and not some below average mess.

 

Anyone know where to get this in europe? austria/germany in particular.

Still nothing on amazon.de. I really want this cause they're selling it for 900eu compared to every other brand who's at 1200 for the same specs. I'll be needing it early july.

 

Even if the resolution is turned down?

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The way i see it... most of the laptop owners seem to be happy... sure a couple are disappointed by screen quality... but i think its kinda unfair to compare it to a i think macbook pro's display... the laptop costs a forture for what it offers.... it better have a great display...!

They've offered a thin laptop which runs cool and silent ... pretty well designed... and a very good gpu.... at an amazing price...
Do i wish the screen quality was better... sure...but i still dont see any other laptop offering any of these at this price point...

And regarding the g551 or the gx500.... those laptops are months away from reaching the market... and im sure they'll have their own problems

Anyway il be getting the laptop within a week or two max... il be sure to post some pics comparing it to the y510p display and any other laptop i can get my hands on

 

If your OK with a below average screen that's fine but you seem to be making excuses to like this laptop rather than accepting the fact that the screen is bad.
Sure the price is good but you get what you pay for.
Wouldn't you rather pay let's say an extra $50 on the base price for much better screen?
I've made the mistake of getting laptops in the past with subpar screens and while convincing myself it was OK at first they quickly lose the initial excitement of owning a brand new laptop with a below a average screen after working/gaming with it for a while.
Lenovo.... you almost got it right and I really want to like this laptop but the screen issues are unforgivable.

 

I just bought the Y50 Touch base model from Klick's Ebay listing! It should be here in a week or two.

Apparently my current laptop screen only has ~50% sRGB coverage but it looks great to me and nobody else has ever noticed it was bad. My hypothesis is that the glossy finish makes everything pop more despite the technically bad colour gamut. Kingfirejet's screen from his review of the Y50 Touch looks pretty nice to me. Even if the colour gamut is the same as on the matte version (~60% sRGB), the glossy finish masks it very well and makes colours vivid regardless. Since I don't live in the US and couldn't order directly from Klick I had to pay more for Ebay to deliver my laptop (to Canada). And I'll have to get and install my own SSD and 8GB RAM stick if I decide I need them. So with all the upgrades the laptop is costing me around 2000 Canadian dollars after tax, which is $1840 US dollars. I'm pretty content with that. It's WAY cheaper than a lot of its competitors are before tax and seems to have the best cooling system out of all of them. Oh, and it is hands down the best looking gaming laptop on the market.

 

I've had this Y50 Touch for a few days now. Either I have a low tolerance for what could be considered a "good screen" or people are being incredibly nitpicky. It's possibly the former; I haven't owned a laptop prior to this one, so I don't have a comparison point, so if it is bad, then I wouldn't know because I haven't used a good screen extensively before.

Coming from someone without a point of reference, the glossy touch screen is really good, IMO. Reading the reviews on this thread I would have expected the worst screen ever, but to me it's pretty far from it. The vertical viewing angles do suffer though, there's no denying that. But when I'm using it like I would any other laptop, I don't think twice about the screen.

 

i'm starting to save some more just to prepare in case the Y50 4k indeed has that IPS/PLS Panel.
btw, what SSD brand is lenovo using on its highest end models? is that the same as the one that people here are using to replace their SSHD?

 

You have a point a $50 spent by lenovo could've made things better..
But i need a laptop now and i cant possibly wait for their next years model
i care about the gpu more than the display.....and i dont care about the NTSC/sRGB numbers either.... from what i've seen... it think it looks good enough
You could give the most accurate display in the world to a man and he might still think an an over saturated screen is better... there is no right number in case of screens unless you want something for professional stuff.... which i dont..its all subjective...
Majority seem to be ok with the screen... thats saying something

i dont want the msi gs60.... it runs way too hot for my comfort and i dont like the design either....

If you can suggest any other option at that price point which offersthe same level performance and with the thin form factor... im ready to consider

I'm not trying to get reason to like it i've already placed the order....but a couple of people thinking a screen is bad should'nt affect the decision of everyone coming into the forums ... hence the post

 

Klick will you be offering Asus laptops in the future?

 

Sorry no, only Lenovo.

 

Is anyone else getting only 3 hrs max on battery life? I have the 4710 cpu, and it's only on like 55% brightness.

 

Anybody know how to fix slow buffering on youtube? I didn't have this problem with my last laptop so idk what the problem is

 

The touch may be fine, it is us with the matte non-touch screen that are having issues, could you check in your device manager and post your screen model we are curious as we may purchase the same screen for our devices if it looks good.

 

I am picking at straws, I honestly love everything about this device but the screen is just so bad! I totally agree it is a MAJOR oversight by Lenovo I would have gladly paid extra to have a decent TN screen.

 

It's adamantly clear that neither of you have this laptop.

Having used the y510p, the 4gb 860 y50 and the msi ghost pro 3k, the second and third both having dual cooling fans, I can tell you the y510p and gs60 is seriously weaker, hitting around 80C, max settings on Crysis 3, the y50 hits from 67 to 74 on the same settings. The form factor and build materials used allow for heat to be dissipated around the speakers area, it sometimes can get warm in between the 2 speakers but who the hell has there hands there for a long period of time?

If I had to choose, y50 or gs60 pro 3k, y50 every time. It is also around 500 USD cheaper for the y50, even with a more powerful video card and 1 gb extra dedicated ram for the card. The only downside being that the gs60 comes with 1tb HDD + 128gb SSD. You could choose a 512 gb SSD for the y50, I chose the hybrid system.

Hope people are now a little more educated than with the 2 quoted posts

 

I have a MbpR and yes it has a probably the best screen ever put on a laptop, however I also have a 5 year old T410 and it has a much much better screen than the Y50. Currently I have my Y50 hooked up to a crappy Dell 22 inch E series monitor and the biggest complaint is sharpness and how the Y50 displays white, the Y50 looks "yellow" like it has spent years in a small apartment with 2 smokers.

 

Lol it's a problem when 5-6 year old laptops that aren't even known for particular screen quality are trumping this thing

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Yes it is a huge issue, I imagine that Lenovo buyers went to some huge swap meet in China and found some random guy selling TN screens out of a basket for $2 a pop and they bought the lot I have never seen such an awful display in my life a cheap crap $250 Toshiba laptop has better color accuracy then this POS screen.

Keep in mind guys I am talking about the non-touch with the Chimei screen.

 

It really depends what you do, 85% of what I want to use this device for is work and school which is a ton of typing and reading now the awesome keyboard on this machine makes typing a breeze but reading text is bad, very bad. I loaded up Skyrim and played it on the laptop screen, that looked just fine and I have no complaints.

If you plan on gaming and minimal reading and have absolutely zero need for video or photo editing then the screen will work out just fine for you.

 

If I screen swap, it will be to a B156HW01 version 1 or 4 like the one found in Clevos. ( AnandTech | MYTHLOGIC Pollux 1400: Clevo's W150HR Tested)

This screen was a direct swap for the m4800 which also used this same inferior ChiMei screen. Taking the lenovo apart doesn't scare me--been doing it for years, and if everything else about this machine is good, I won't let something as easy to replace as a display hold me back from enjoying it.

 

LOL

They better have fixed things with 4k or else I really can't comprehend what they were thinking. 4k screen with that quality would be absolutely atrocious.

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Well after 2 friends just got there Y50's with matte displays and seeing the both screens with my own eyes, I can truly say the screen,really,really sucks
Both are being sent back for a refund because of the crappy screens, both really liked everything else but the bad screen quality was too much to deal with. Bummer because they were both looking forward to these.

 

Wow, a lot of hate from you for this screen. We get it. I'm not making excuses for this display, but I don't think it merits this kind of beating. I've seen a LOT worse than this display, including the Samsung series 7 chronos 14", ativ book 8 15", Every fujitsu I've ever been issued from work, my old 2011 HP probook 14", my old 2012 Sony Vaio S and 2013 Razer 14"....all have much worse displays in my opinion. Color reproduction and vertical viewing angels are not great, but the pixels are clear rather than grainy like many other matte displays, and while playing Civ 5 or BF4 I have not once stopped to think "wow, this game looks like garbage. I would rather play on my Blade Pro."

This never works properly, but I'm going to try anyway. Here are some comparison pics between one of my 3 LG 27EA63 IPS monitors, and then one of the Y50, the LG, and my Razer Blade Pro. No, it does not perform like one of my $300 monitors, or the $2500 laptop, yes it has a bit of washout at default calibration and its viewing angles are not very good, but it is far from the complete trash you are making it out to be. Maybe you got a particularly garbage variant or something, but I'll post these anyways and hopefully people can make their own judgement.

These are with the Lenovo settings on photo mode, which helps with the washout a bit.

 

Mother of monitors and $$$$. What do you do for a living? XD

 

Someone do a side by side of the glossy and the matte screen already!

 

Sorry, I spent all my money on monitors. Can't buy the glossy Y50 too

 

That's probably only going to be done by a professional reviewer - normal folks are not going to have two different Y50's.

 

My only comment about this whole screen issue is: It's probably the most average component out of an otherwise above average affordable gaming-spec'd laptop. If I had to rate my matte non-touch screen, then I'd go with 3 out of 5. To sum up the screen I'd describe it as average, has room for improvement especially on the vertical viewing angles, and probably not recommended for professional. Would I have paid $50 more for an improved screen? Yes, I think I would and I completely understand people's concerns about it. However if you're not a professional and an excellent screen isn't a requirement, this screen is very usable [for gaming, web browsing, office/work].

If you feel the screen looks washed out, do what I did and perform a Win8.1 screen calibration. I found the gamma was set too high and once I turned it down (and turned down blue a bit) it looks fine.

 

Yes but I mean, surely two friends can get together and put their laptops side by side? Fat chance I know, but yeah I guess lets wait for a professional review.

 

Anybody know how to fix slow buffering on youtube? I didn't have this problem with my last laptop so idk what the problem is

 

I too use an external monitor Asus VH236H and they feel pretty similar to me aside from reduced viewing angle on the Y50.

 

I wish there was solid, no doubt confirmation that the 4k version is IPS/PLS so the people that want better screens can get what they want . Too bad lenovo information has been so spotty thus far that I'm not believing anything they say until I see it with my own eyes

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Thank you for taking the time to post these pictures.

Mine is still going back.

I decided that I just want a beautiful screen and an SSD drive even if it means giving up performance. I can just use my desktop to game.

I'm considering picking up MacBook Pro with Retina 13" and just installing Windows with bootcamp like I did with my last laptop.

It's priced at $1,234 at BestBuy right now, seems they slashed the prices recently, I'm assuming because the new models will prob come out soon.

Apple MacBook Pro with Retina display 13.3" Display 4GB Memory 128GB Flash Storage ME864LLA - Best Buy

Any opinions on this laptop as far as screen, performance and build quality goes?

Does anyone know if there are 13-14" Windows based laptops with screens as beautiful or better than this MacBook for around that $900-$1300 price mark?

Thanks in advanced.

 

Fill out the what laptop I should buy forum and make a new thread. Not to sound rude, but this is the y50 thread.

 

You want the Asus N550JK.

 

Photos, Video and Gaming are all ok the screen is "bearable" in those departments, however, try reading black text on a white background like on this forum that is where you really see how bad the screen is. Considering reading text is #1 for me the screen is just way to terrible to overcome. If my soul reason for purchasing the device was to stare at wallpapers and play BF4 then the screen would suffice but lets be real we purchase laptops to perform multiple tasks Work, School, Entertainment ect. And when a device has a major "fail" in one of those categories it becomes obsolete. My soul reason for the Y50 was work/school during the week and doing gaming on the weekends, I need a 7 day machine not a 2 day.

Other people may have different priorities for this device such as gaming 80% of the time, for that I say don't worry about the screen you will be just fine.

For the rest of us, it is just not going to work.

Now if I can actually get the terrible customer service reps to process my return called twice today and both times they stated they would call back, guess I am now waiting until Monday.

P.S. The US based rep I spoke to last did state that they cannot guarantee that the Chimei screen would be replace with a AOU if sent to the depot, they all stated that if I try to replace the screen myself warranty would be voided. Lenovo just needs to own up and replace these screens with something a little better so far it looks like the screen is accounting for at least 4 - 5 returns on this forum alone.

Lost revenue and lost faith in Lenovo products from a terrible cost cutting decision.

 

I've already gone through 3 huge @$$ papers on the y50, and my eyes are not strained at all. I know this may sound stupid, but maybe it was the dpi scaling?

 

I have ran it from 100 to 150% and still cannot get things to look as good as my T410, you bring up a good point though what settings have you changed to make the screen more bearable?

It is difficult for me since I use my laptop as my 2nd screen so I see the difference constantly, possibly if I was just using the laptop as-is I would adjust.

 

What, exactly, is the problem you're experiencing when reading text on a white background that doesn't allow you to fulfill your "soul" purpose in buying the machine?

Yes, there is a slight yellow tint to white, but I've completely forgotten about it after moving away from my multi-monitor setup. If I wasn't looking at it next to something better, I would have never even recognized it. I have been writing a more detailed review on this machine for people for the last hour...staring at black text on a completely white background (MS Word) and I have have yet to see a real problem that would make me change to my Razer or Retina Macbook Pro.

I hope you find what you're looking for though. I know its frustrating to buy a notebook hoping it works out, and then be frustrated by something. I've had similar problems with fan noise for ages, but I know not everyone else feels the same way about it. I really am just curious what about text on white bothers you so much.

 

I'm at 1080p resolution, 100% DPI scaling, and on photo mode in Lenovo's Settings. Hasn't strained my eyes yet.

 

Oh well my y50 came with dpi scaling enabled and it made reading text a pain cause it would make it really blurry. Right click on the program, select properties, and go to the compatibility tab ( I think?). Then, select disable dpi scaling. I hope this helps.

 

Mine came with 125% scaling as default and the blurry text for non-DPI sensitive software made me immediately revert to 100%. For people complaining about screens please set the DPI to 100% first and let us know how that works for you. Incidentally this is the same kind of issue you will be putting up with on 4k screens until software makers update their stuff to work with high DPI.

 

Mine also came set at 125% or 150%...I can't remember. Either way, I turned that off pretty quick. (I chose 100% for all my monitors...) External monitors don't cooperate properly with anything but 100% when you regularly dock / undock...especially with displaylink adapters.