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    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Jobine, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    Pretty much, unless you have them side by side I doubt anyone will notice the difference.
     
  2. vahdyx

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    I'll definitely tell you all everything I can but unfortunately my means of recording is a Nexus 5 lol. I don't own a DSLR.

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    Yes, it will look exactly the same because it has exactly 4 (smaller) pixels to represent each 1080p pixel. 4k happens to have four times as many pixels as 1080p has so each pixel is one fourth of the size of a 1080p screen. (3840*2160)/(1920*1080) = 4 Since four pixels can make up a larger 2x2 square that's why this works. Other screens that don't have this exact square ratio don't look as good as native screens do, because they have to create false pixels and guess some parts that don't match up in terms of pixels, but thankfully 4k does have this "square ratio." The only problem you'll encounter is apps that haven't been optimized and scaled properly for 4k and will make everything look four times as small as it should be since they will make one 1080p pixel the same size as one 4k pixel.
     
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    what makes you think you can't fit a 15" screen in a 15" chassis?
     
  5. iori9999

    iori9999 Notebook Geek

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    This is what turned me off from buying a 4K version.. Superior panel aside.. I'm quite low maintenance as it is regarding the screen, but if I'm forced to play windowed mode all the time I think I would shoot myself..
     
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    They already released the 4k non touch y50, so yes you can.
     
  7. iori9999

    iori9999 Notebook Geek

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    So if that's the case, would I beable to get this 4K IPS screen and it obviously would make the screen better by default, but my resolution wouldn't turn into 4K correct?
     
  8. IKAS V

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    Yes it would, that's the point of having a 4K screen ;)
    W8 has different settings for this but high DPI screens don't always work well with Windows either.
     
  9. iori9999

    iori9999 Notebook Geek

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    Must be hard to install, anyways when will it be available and for how much? Talking about the 4K IPS panel..
     
  10. alaskajoel

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    Panel depth. A few of the high resolution screens I have seen include larger backlight assemblies than comparable 1080 displays. I would still expect the 4k panel to be an easy swap though. Its a lot of money to design a lid twice just for a display.
     
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    that probably only applies to monitor displays. for example thinkpad x1c had no lid difference between HD+ and 2560x1440. the only concern I can see is the change from 30pin eDP to 40 eDP for 4k. the lid is already pretty thick to begin with.
     
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    Everyone is concerned about 4K, whether it will scale well with windows 8 etc. I thought I might give my opinion on the matter...

    Lets say that you get the 4K model and it doesn't scale well, it's a complete train wreck, nothing is working. You scale it down to 1080 (which will scale nicely due to the fact that 4K is just 4 x 1080) and you have a beautiful 1080 IPS display. This was one of the biggest concerns that people had about this laptop in the first place, POW that problem solved. So you're now happy that you have a nice 1080 display but you still want that 4K display. Well lucky for you, 4K is the next up and the coming technology. Windows will inevitably support it. Just as Xbox is getting to the point were it supports 1080. We are a little bit ahead of the game in purchasing a 4K laptop now, but I really don't think it will be long before windows supports at least up to 4K. Especially as Lenovo isn't the only one releasing such technology into a laptop or otherwise portable device. In my opinion this is just another way to future proof my laptop and enjoy a beautiful screen in the meantime.
     
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    liteon6x Notebook Consultant

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    Right on .....
     
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    Windows will likely support pixel doubling in the future, but the fact is...it doesn't do it perfectly now. So you either run at 200% DPI which has its flaws with non HiDPI aware applications or you run at 1080 resolution and you lose substantial clarity. You can NOT just go to display resolution and change from 4k to 1920x1080p and think it will work perfectly in Windows. It doesn't. Ask people who have tried it.
     
  15. Derek712

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    The clarity might be better than you think. Maybe I;m wrong and didn't notice what you were talking about I had no trouble scaling down the Blade to 1600x900. It didn't look all that different from a native 1600x900 panel. tbh, I didn't spend a whole lot of time in that mode though because it defeated the point of having it. I would not buy a 4k laptop and scale it to 2k - I'd rather deal with the pesky bugs until they get fixed.
     
  16. alaskajoel

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    Clarity is alright when playing a game or watching a film...it is difficult to tell the difference. Text on the other hand is obvious when you're using windows to force scale down to 1600 x 900.

    But even in images or video, you can still see the difference in quality between real pixel doubling and bilinear interpolation
    [​IMG]

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    Banender Notebook Consultant

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    wow so the left side of the picture is what our text will be like on a 4k screen? omg thx for the heads up...

    didnt know it would actually make text less sharp
     
  18. alaskajoel

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    On a 4k screen being forced to scale to a non-native resolution on windows. On apps that are HiDPI compatible, you can run at 4k and 200% DPI scaling, and that is what it will look like on the right (Perfect!)

    4k displays are incredible, but there are always trade-offs. I can't use 200% DPI scaling because apps I use regularly are not HiDPI compatible and either look like garbage, or are incredibly small. (I use ArcGIS and STATA on a regular basis...and they are not very friendly with high resolution displays.) You have to look at what you want your notebook to do, and whether or tasks will be compatible with the current state of high resolution displays.
     
  19. JayEm

    JayEm Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can anyone with a Y50 comment on the placement of the intake fans? My old M14x had them placed on the underside, so I had to have it sit on a book while gaming, which was kind of annoying. Would I be able to have the Y50 sit flat on a desk without choking the fans?

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
  20. alaskajoel

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    Intake fans are directly on the bottom

    ...right next to what they want you to think is a subwoofer.
    Please forgive the finger prints :)
    [​IMG]

    And yes, it is propped up enough to stay cool just on a desk or flat surface.
     
  21. JayEm

    JayEm Notebook Enthusiast

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    Excellent, thank god I don't have to use a book anymore! Thanks a million :)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    xFDZ Newbie

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    Honestly, what the actual F--- Lenovo. What kind of big company advertises 1-3 shipping dates and they end up being 2 months later. I ordered the non touch top model on May 22nd and the delivery date was pushed to the 25th of June. Now it has been pushed again and it's "supposed" to arrive on July 16th. Like seriously? How hard is it to just put a laptop together and send it over to someone's house?? At this point I would just order from Klick even though the international fees and USD conversion will make it a bit more expensive (I live in Canada)
     
  23. Derek712

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    It's the subwoofer anything comparable to the Asus one that they were selling with last year's zenbooks and their q550 lines?

    Sent from my ASUS PadFone X using Tapatalk
     
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    I am wanting to buy this laptop really bad. But I have a small concern. I have been reading conflicting comments about the audio and the Wi-Fi. These two are my main concerns because I use audio and internet on a daily basis. So can the owners of Lenovo y50 clarify these two questions please. I would really appreciate it.

    1) Does the Wi-Fi drop sometimes by itself. Do you experience any other problems with the Wi-Fi and if so is it still usable (meaning is it really annoying something that would effect daily internet browsing etc..)?

    2) Do you have problems with the audio? Are there static noises or white noises and if so is it something really annoying or it's just minor and just takes someone getting used to it.
     
  25. pulse123

    pulse123 Notebook Guru

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    Wifi seems to work just like any other laptop I've used.

    The speakers are excellent for a laptop due to the addition of subwoofer. There is faint white noise when I plug my earbuds into the 3.5mm combo jack. I can get rid of the white noise by uninstalling the Realtek HD Audio driver and using generic drivers Win8.1 installs, but then I'd lose the subwoofer. I suppose I'd put it under the "able to get used to" category.
     
  26. lewdvig

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    What's the best way for international buyers to get the Y50 from Klick? Is it eBay only? Is there an NBR discount? LOL, had to ask.
     
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  27. KlickOnline

    KlickOnline Company Representative

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    Ebay only - can work out a small discount, but it won't be as much as the current NBR discounts. Email me below.
     
  28. lost dragon

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    i have the same question lol
     
  29. SpartanG

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    Thanks for the reply. Totally sucks that such a good laptop can't get the one of the most important features right. I honestly don't mind the less quality screen display but the audio, Come On Lenovo I expected better.
     
  30. undeadmyth

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    This is what i was worried about.
     
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    My boot time went from around 12 seconds to about 35 seconds today randomly. Im not sure what is the problem. The little balls that go around in a circle under the lenovo logo are visibly lagging when I boot my pc up as opposed to being smooth how it used to. Anyone know what could be causing this?
     
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    regarding the 4k Y50 variant

    I think getting a sager with a GTX 870 and a 95% gamut screen is a real alternative. Im guessing they will be at the same price range?
     
  33. XxxKing YBxxX

    XxxKing YBxxX Notebook Evangelist

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    The point of getting this over sager is portability. If portability is not a concern, then sager would be a better choice as it offers better bang for buck

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
  34. renavspainatal

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    Some tried Linux with Y50 already?

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
     
  35. putrahawari

    putrahawari Newbie

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    i need help :( is it possible to replace the tn panel with ips panel?is there any bad effect?and how much will it cost?thx
     
  36. belatedeffort

    belatedeffort Notebook Enthusiast

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    You could buy a ips panel on taobao.com if you are in China. It will cost you about 320CNY to 500CNY

    ½ñÌì¸øY50»»ÆÁÁËЧ¹û²»´í£¬ÄÚ¸½½Ì³Ì_y50°É_°Ù¶ÈÌù°É
    The link is a tutorial on panel replacement(Chinese).
    I put it there just because I want to prove that someone has done this job and so can you.
     
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  37. putrahawari

    putrahawari Newbie

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    wow the viewing angles are good, so how is your laptop?everything fine?that's too bad i don't live in china
     
  38. belatedeffort

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    bro you have made a mistake. I have not got a Y50 yet. I am just posting a link :D
     
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  39. putrahawari

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    hahaha sorry,my bad
     
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    Is the Y50 Touch version's screen the exact same one as the non-touch model except that it's glossy?
     
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    No. In addition to being glossy, the Y50 Touch also has edge-to-edge glass, whereas the standard Y50 has a bezel.
     
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    That's about it right? The display itself is the exact same model as the non touch one?
     
  43. Derek712

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    Is the touch model really glossy or a matte panel with glass on top. I've seen that trick before. :)
     
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    Really? What on earth would be the point of paying for an extra matte finish if the touchscreen would cause reflection anyways? Seems like a strange idea to me...Anyways, from the pictures kingfirejet posted it looks glossy for sure. The colours definitely pop more on his display than on the matte ones I saw. So regardless of how Lenovo did it the Touch display is the more vibrant one for sure. I personally decided not to wait for the 4K models because the FHD Touch screen looks nice enough and the extra half hour or so of battery life I'll have with it is worth a lot more to me than 4K. I understand the appeal of ultra high resolution on laptops with great battery life like the Dell XPS 15 or rMBP but on a machine like the Y50 that has only 2-3 hours battery life on full brightness with a FHD TN screen, 4K seems like a bad trade off to me. At least I'll be able to watch one full movie without plugging in, which I doubt the 4K IPS panel will allow. With a TN display I also don't have to worry about IPS glow or ghosting/image retention issues that have plagued even the Razer Blade 2014 and are way more annoying to me than bad vertical viewing angles.
     
  45. Derek712

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    When I bought my first qnix monitor, they were out of glossy , so I bought the tempered glass version thinking it was the next best thing. When I took it apart, it was a matte screen with a piece of glass on top of it! Still baffles me to this day and they still sell the model.

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  46. IKAS V

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    I mostly agree with everything you said except for the RAZER BLADE 2014 screen, there is no ghosting/image retention issues at all. They use an IGZO display which is sort of the same as IPS but slightly different with the materials used in the manufacturing process.
    I have yet to see what the guy says he seen on my 2014 RB, maybe it was just his laptop but no other complaints have surfaced about it. I got to admit it's the most beautiful screen I have ever owned on a laptop hands down. It's the reason why I did not get the Y50 becuase after comparing the two ( 2 of my friends got Y50's but returned immediately due to the subpar screen ) I could not justify buying such an awesome laptop but being ruined by LENOVO by going cheap with the screen. I don't know maybe the RB screen spoiled me.
     
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    Y50 Touch owner here. Screen is actual glossy. It looks to suffer the same vertical angle issues, however. It isn't a big deal since it takes me a second to adjust the screen and it's no longer a problem for me. Side angles look fine to me, but I haven't extensively tested it.
     
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    Why is it taking so long for Lenovo to ship my 4k model. Ugh!

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    ok yeah you don't know what you are talking about.

    1. if you ever bothered to flip through the razer blade 2014 thread some people did report ghosting issues with the new display. this is an issue for some people

    2. there's no such thing as an igzo display RB 2014 uses igzo ips which is a variant of IPS display and uses different semiconductor to save electricity
     
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    Anybody having youtube buffer issues? I never had this problem on my old laptop but it seems that videos take a bit longer to load on this computer. Any ideas on how to resolve this?
     
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