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    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Jobine, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. liteon6x

    liteon6x Notebook Consultant

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    Cheers to that.
     
  2. octiceps

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    Not offensive if you a brotha you dig homie?
     
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    Same here.
     
  4. H01D3N

    H01D3N Notebook Evangelist

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    So, I apparently the starting price for the Y40/Y50 is not $999. According to this source, the starting price is actually $599. Whether that is for the Y40 or the Y50, I have no idea. It also confirms the GTX 860M, contradictory to what Nvidia's site says. Here's the site:

    Lenovo Multimedia und Performance Notebooks Z40, Z50 und Y40, Y50 - Notebookcheck.com News

    And anyway, didn't Lenovo say that the Y40 would not be touchscreen? Maybe I have my facts wrong, but according to their website ( Lenovo Y40 Touch Laptop | 14" High-Performance Gaming Notebook PC | Lenovo (US) ) both models of the Y series will feature a 10-point touchscreen. Personally I think that both models will be released by the end of next week, but no sooner.
     
  5. raptir

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    What's weird is that the text says "Y40/50 from 500 to 1000 USD," but then the image immediately below that shows the Y40/Y50 starting at $999.
     
  6. ChowMeow

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    >Slide says 599 starting
    >Rep says 699
    >Everyone else says 999

    Wat
     
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  7. liteon6x

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    They also say Tu Pac is alive

    Now I am really confused
     
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    So is michael jackson. Hmm.
     
  9. newms81

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    The pricing on the new MSI GE60 Apache and GT60 Dominator looks great! It has me very optimistic that the Y50 with gpu and SSD could be under $1500. The GE60 Apache has the same gpu and CPU at $1250, and add about $150 for a 240/256GB SSD, for a total of $1400.
     
  10. liteon6x

    liteon6x Notebook Consultant

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    Yep lenovo sometimes take losses on there machines.I guess because there trying to break into the gaming market they are being very aggressive with there prices. It helps when the company that you are buying from is ranked number one in overall global laptop sales.
     
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    I seriously doubt they are ever selling them at a loss..
     
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    liteon6x Notebook Consultant

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    Those are Lenovo Outlet reburbs. Pretty common practice among OEM's to discount (sometimes heavily) refurbs depending on a number of factors (EOL status, used condition, etc.) They don't sell every unit at that price and certainly not brand new ones. And the rock-bottom deal you got on the refurb was a pretty exceptional case at that.
     
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    here is test gtx860m on rus website, but you can translate Ferra.ru -
     
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  16. liteon6x

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    heh heh
    I had to have something to test this beast out.


    Anywayz back on topic guys
     
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  17. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    Lenovo better roll out their Y50 soon, it's impossible to recommend the Y510p now that the Clevo W350SS (860M) is out.
     
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    Anyone have any reviews on this brand? Looks like you can customize it quite a bit.
     
  19. H01D3N

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    I think that you can still recommend the y410p though, seeing as how the Y40 isn't going to be very powerful.
     
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    i think the reason for buying a y40 is because of its portability due to thinner size and it's gonna be a little lighter compared to y410p. at least this is the one i recommend most to my friends (esp the ladies) who wanted a light i7 laptop for programming or multimedia use. now we are just excited and waiting for them to come out.
     
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    i would still choose the y410p. The y40 does look very slick and is quite a nice notebook.
    I do rather have a thicker chassic for better cooling though. The extra weight is negligible.
     
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    y410p is more powerful than the xps15 for around half the cost. Qhd is nelgible for gamers.
     
  23. McFartypants

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    I was able to set up the Sager PC with the same graphics card as the Y50 for $1,394 with the main specs I was looking for (i7 4700MQ, 250gb SSD, 16gb RAM). Plus I get Assassin's Creed IV for free which is a total game changer (sarcasm).

    Any reason why it's worth waiting for the Y50? Does Sager have a good/bad reputation? I wasn't able to find much on them.
     
  24. H01D3N

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    The biggest reasons for why I would get a Lenovo Y50 over any other brand would be its reliability, excellent customer service, (hopefully) cheaper price, and style. Personally I really like the look of the red on black, and the Y series laptops are generally much thinner than other brands. Lenovo, being a large company, does frequently have driver updates and good customer service if anything goes down. Like I said, hopefully the Y50 will be cheaper than the Sager that you customized. Sager is a reputable company, but I just like going with larger companies as the customer service is better, which is very important to me. Just choose what suits your needs best.
     
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    Exactly. QHD isn't even currently optimized for daily web browsing. It will be a while before QHD is actually usable for gaming.
     
  26. heibk201

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    If you are looking for raw performance and don't care about designs and portability, sager is the way to go at any time. However, if you don't want to carry something that weighs at least 6 lbs with you all the time, or you don't want a laptop that looks like complete , get the y50. They are both bang for the buck, but it's up to whether you want better performance or better portability and design.
     
  27. heibk201

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    Uh not really... Ideapads are usually manufactured very sloppily and wouldn't be as reliable as you think. While Thinkpads are of excellent quality, Ideapads usually aren't. Lenovo service is very unstable. Sometimes they can be helpful but other times they aren't, which is the usual case.
     
  28. H01D3N

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    Well it sounds like you have just have had bad experiences with Lenovo on your part. For me, Lenovo has been great. IMO, Ideapads look great, run great, and don't often crash like other brands I've tested. And I've found Lenovo's customer service to suffice. Maybe you use your computer in harsher conditions, and that's fine. For my needs, however, Lenovos work much better than other brands.
     
  29. Althernai

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    The main drawback of Clevo/Sager laptops is that they are relatively bulky and heavy. Sometimes this is not too bad a thing because the CPU and/or GPU(s) they stuff in there need the extra cooling. With the Maxwell GPUs, this is not the case and they're bulky and heavy simply because the shells of the previous models were reused without changing much. The other drawback of Clevo/Sager laptops is that the support you get depends on where you buy them. Sager does not manufacture laptops, it just customizes machines from manufacturers (such as Clevo) and sells them. I haven't heard of their support being too great so most people buy from Sager/Clevo resellers. These are small shops which sometimes provide a few extra options as well as warranty and the like. The quality of support you will get varies with the reseller, but keep in mind that these shops are small and don't benefit from economies of scale for things like part prices. As a result, if they can find a technicality under which to deny you support, they will use it (and the nastier ones might invent and/or create such a technicality...). This is not like HP/Dell/Lenovo for whom it quite likely costs more to prove to you that your laptop's warranty is void than it does to simply fix the thing.
     
  30. Jobine

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    But it scales perfectly down to 900p. So you have your work resolution and your gaming resolution.
     
  31. Jobine

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    Use their online chat. MUCH more helpful than their otherwise bad phone support. Works for both Think and Idea product lines.
     
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    It's commonly known that Thinkpads are manufactured with much better quality than Ideapads. Ideapads are good too, but they do come with more defects statistically.
     
  33. H01D3N

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    Granted, I don't own a Thinkpad, so I really don't know about the quality of them. But I do think the quality of Ideapads is good.
     
  34. jl0329

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    Almost pulled trigger on the new 14 inch Razor blade, until I see Y50. Going to wait for the reviews to come out for both and then decide.

    I really really like the look of the new razor blade, just not the price :(

    Btw, how is the performance of 870M(K) vs 860M(Max) not considering power consumption?

    Edit: Few other criteria that I am interested of:

    1. 2nd SSD slot, rumor has it that Razor blade will have a 2nd slot (not confirmed thou). However, we don't know if it's mSATA or M2. (Screw M2 :( ) The default SSD is M2 format (confirmed).
    From what I read in this thread, Y50 only has one. Not sure about the format yet.

    2. Both machine has touch screen, does anyone know if they have digitizer?

    3.???

    4. Profit.
     
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    I can't speak for all, but I had the Yoga 2 Pro. The wireless card couldn't be detected out of the box. I did some research online, and it seems tons of people are complaining about its cheap wireless card. I had to spent $40 to get a better one with dual band ac and replace it myself. For a new $1k laptop, I say the QC could be better. I don't buy Lenovo for its quality, I buy it for its cheap price.
     
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    I hate to break it to you but the Y50 is "Starting at 5.7lb".
     
  37. adrian5683

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    That's for the touch screen, non-touch is 4.7lb
     
  38. hfm

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    That's weird, the Razer 14 with a touch screen is only .5lb more than the old Razer 14. I guess 15.6" touch screen is twice the weight? Perhaps Razer did the thing again where they modify the screen back to fit it onto thinnest possible form factor.
     
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    Most of the official showroom videos and articles point to a March release with a starting price of 599$, but the Lenovo news release from Jan 6 states "models of the Lenovo Y40 and Y50 laptops start at $999 and will be available beginning in May 2014 via major retailers and www.lenovo.com"... :confused:
     
  40. McFartypants

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    I really hope this isn't true--I don't think I can wait until May. Not because of patience, but because I actually NEED a new laptop right now. I'm starting to think the Sager might be a better direction for me. I'm not going to really be moving this laptop around daily, but I love the idea of having a portable laptop to take with me to a friend's house, move around my own house, or take it on a trip if I need to.

    I also priced out another custom Sager with a GTX 870m in it and it came out to be around $1600 with the same specs I mentioned before (i7 4700 MQ, 16gb RAM, 250gb SSD). I think I'd be willing to sacrifice some slick design features of the Y50 for a bigger, more powerful laptop. While I agree it would be a risk from a support aspect, I still think it is worth it for the upgraded GPU for a relatively affordable price.
     
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    Sounds like an easy choice to me, since you REALLY NEED a laptop now. What's the point in waiting 2 more months? There is always going to be better technology/laptops in the future. So if you REALLY NEED it, just get it now. The reason that I am waiting for both razor blade and y50 is that I REALLY DON'T need a powerful laptop right now, it's just going to be another luxury upgrade for me when they are out.

    If I don't have a mean to satisfy my productive and entertaining need now, I am going to get whatever is out there right now. Two months can be a long and frustrating wait for you. Just my 2 cents
     
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    A quick question for you guys.
    I bought an Alienware M14x three years ago for gaming, but I've gotten tired of the ostentatiousness and its a bit too underpowered these days. I was looking for something sleeker and more subtle/businesslike, but that can handle games on high settings. The new Razer Blade is the obvious choice but the pricing is ridiculous. Can anyone suggest whether a Y50 with the FHD non touch screen would be a better and cheaper option than say, an MSI GS70? (Assuming of course it starts at the $999 price point.) Is there a massive amount of difference between the GTX 765m and the Maxwell GTX 860m? I also considered the Y510p but honestly I think its too thick, and I'm not prepared for all the SLI induced headaches and micro stuttering. I really like the brushed aluminium look, is there any other notebook I should be considering?
    Cheers in advance!
     
  43. hailgod

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    If you want something that isn't too "flashy", consider sager?
     
  44. JayEm

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    I looked the Sager lineup, they're nice with the specs but not so easy on the eyes. My apologies, I should have been more specific. I was looking for something subtle, but stylish. I think the Y50 is lovely looking, I'm just concerned about the price tag and possible alternatives.
     
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    We still don't know the specifications and pricing options for Y50 for sure at this point. IA model with GTX, UHD touch screen and SSD might get close to $2000, who knows. (Still cheaper than Razor thou :))

    It's an exciting season! If you are not in a hurry to get a laptop (since you have a working one now), I'd say wait fora month or two until you make your choice.
     
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    I found Sager super ugly too :) Although I am not going to play my laptop in public, I'd hate to stare at that thing everyday :(
     
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    Yeah I have to wait till the summer anyway, but I figure if I sell my current lappy I should be well on the way. I don't see many practical uses for the UHD personally, so I'd be more than happy to leave it out to keep the price under 1300 or so. There seem to be quite a few good options coming in the near future, and pretty much anything would be an upgrade over my GT555m haha! I just like the look and sound of the Y50 so far, as long as it sticks reasonably close to the Y510p's pricing without the 4K it seems like it could be a winner :) Haha yeah agreed about the Sager, I feel the same about my Alienware. It seemed cool looking when I bought it :(
     
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    Yeah, if you aren't doing major video or image editing then you really don't NEED a screen that's UHD/QHD/4K. For my uses, I am fine with GTX 860M, regular display (FHD I guess it is), non-SSD (aftermarket), standard RAM (aftermarket), and non-touch screen. What will this cost? I'm considering just getting the Y410p, as the specs on it will probably work for me.
     
  49. JayEm

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    That's pretty much what I'm going for, perhaps with a hybrid SSD/HDD option. As of yet there's pretty much no indication of pricing beyond the probable $999 starting point(I think that was confirmed someplace) If everything was stock besides the GTX, I would estimate it being 1100 to 1200 or so. I did look at the current Y series too, but I think they're just too bulky for me, I am quite looking forward to having something slimmer! Plus I hear SLI can be a headache
     
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    it is scary to think that this computer has face recognition software. talk about nsa spying
     
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