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    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Jobine, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. H01D3N

    H01D3N Notebook Evangelist

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    A hybrid SSD/HDD option would be nice, but I really don't think that $999 will be the starting price. Lenovo has said that the base model will come with "Intel HD Graphics," which are found in most Ultrabooks. I think that $699 could easily be the starting price point, based on Lenovo's current product lines.

    About the SLI: It has much to offer, but it is very poorly optimized. Most games don't support it, and only use one of the frequently less powerful GPU instead of the SLI configuration. That's why when someone says that they have, for example, a 2-way GTX 780M SLI setup, it really shouldn't be that baffling. I most likely gets the performance of 1.5 of the same graphics card at most. This happens sometimes because the second GPU doesn't get up to speed, isn't utilized, etc. I wouldn't get an SLI laptop in general, not just the Y510p.
     
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    Good old pure marketing gimmick. Kinda like saying that you can actually use "leap motion."
     
  3. JayEm

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    It would be so awesome if the starting point was 699, as that would probably point to a model with at least the GTX and possibly 4K being the 999 model. If that were the case it would be pretty much unbeatable, although that's probably being a bit optimistic on my part!

    Yeah I've been reading up on the SLI stuff it since I heard about the Y510p, seemed really cool at first but I think the microstuttering and driver dependency would really be too much hassle. I'd rather the single card, even if the GT 755m SLI is slightly more powerful than the GTX 860m. I can just swallow my pride and turn down the settings haha.

    On another note, has there been any indication whether Lenovo will be offering any sort of customisation when it launches? It would be nice to pick the options specifically instead of just getting the nearest model... I can only hope!
     
  4. H01D3N

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    Lenovo typically just does a variety of models that you can pick from. I know that Asus, Acer, and Dell all do the same. On the other hand, HP and Toshiba have had success with fully customizable computers. I know that gaming laptop companies offer their own customization on the laptops of big name retailers, so maybe that would be an option for you.
     
  5. JayEm

    JayEm Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well so long as they offer a model with the GTX and i7 that's reasonably priced I'll be happy. Something between the top end and basic
     
  6. jl0329

    jl0329 Notebook Guru

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    Easy, tape your webcam :) Nothing a face recognition software can do if it can't see you.
     
  7. jl0329

    jl0329 Notebook Guru

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    I am wishing for a 4K GTX 512SSD model south of $1500 :D Anyone think they can do it?
     
  8. greedness

    greedness Notebook Consultant

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    Hello there guys, I've been following this thread ever since it started and I finally decided to join the conversations.

    Like probably most of you guys, Im dying out of excitement for this machines. I've been checking out google everyday for the last month for any news on these laptops. It's not fair for us to be tormented like this. I've asked for any ETAs on the chat support a couple of days ago, they said about 3rd - 4th week of march. Yesterday, they said it'll be on April. I've even been spamming the Lenovo facebook page.

    Anyway, I've been on CES and I have been able to personally see both the Lenovo y40 and y50 and here's a few things I can confirm, assuming it'll be the exact same thing they will be releasing.

    - Only the y50 can be upgraded with 4k, the y40 can only be up to 1080p (which makes perfect sense)
    - Only the y40 has the cool carbon texture going on, not on the y50.
    - Both doesnt have detachable batteries, or you would have to remove screws first, I dont really know.
    - They dont weigh as light as it seems to be. It says its super light and stuff, but to be honest, it's not much difference compared to other laptops.
    - The 4k display does look extremely good when they displaying videos in there. Doesnt affect much for me though, cause i'll be getting the y40.
    - Speakers sounds good, but it's a meh...

    I really hope they do offer Nvidia even on the y40s though, cause let's be honest here, gtx are more superior than the radeons.
     
  9. H01D3N

    H01D3N Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for the info, that battery thing isn't talked about much. I think that maybe the lack of a detachable battery means that the new laptops will have pretty good battery life. Everyone knows that performance isn't great when not plugged in anyway, so who knows. I didn't know that the Y40 would be a FHD display, that's good because it makes scaling easier. I totally agree about the GTX vs. Radeon. Even if they offered a GT series, not a GTX, I would still get it over a radeon+intel setup.
     
  10. greedness

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    Honestly, the only thing keeping me from already buying the y410p is the stupid 1600x900 resolution.
     
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    I will probably get the Y410p regardless in the end just because it has nvidia instead of AMD, giving it better performance. I'm just waiting to price out the Y40 and Y50 to see if I can get the newer generation for less.
     
  12. jl0329

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    Exactly, I don't know why they are not giving out detailed specifications. Assuming a May release, it has to be in the mass production stage already. Maybe they are waiting for their competitors to make the move first?
     
  13. H01D3N

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    Their competitors ALREADY made the move first.
     
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    Found this video where the guy actually goes through the Control Panel looking at the GPU, CPU, and hard drive at CES.

     
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    I envy you for being able to settle just for a 900p screen. Me, being a graphic designer really needs at least 1080p so I would have to go for the amd even if it's weaker. The reason I wont get the 15" though is because of the numpad. It feels weird not having the keyboard centered on your screen.
     
  16. jl0329

    jl0329 Notebook Guru

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    While, at least being a graphic designer is a good excuse to burn money for a cool laptop. On the other hand, my job is totally unrelated to graphic/web/programming etc. I am just buying it to play games when I go on business trip (Don't let me wife see this! There is no way I can justify this to her!)

    If my occupation has anything to do with computer, I'd probably get a new laptop every freaking year and not feeling guilty about it :D
     
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  17. greedness

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    Meh, your wife probably has some boots or some hair products that she says she needs but doesnt use.
     
  18. hamthespacechimp

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    that is what i was thinking
     
  19. JayEm

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    They're being pretty optimistic about their release schedule, considering the reps keep saying late March or early April... No faith at all in that personally
     
  20. adrian5683

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    Talked with two reps today and yesterday, both said sometime in May.
     
  21. jl0329

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    This is consistent with what I've heard so far.

    Well, Razor is coming out early April. It's going to be an exciting Q2.
     
  22. greedness

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    Damn, If only razer wasnt so expensive that I could buy 2 y40s with it, I definitely buy that.

    Anyway, I was able to get a response from their fb page,

    "Hi Patrick--nothing official but we are hearing late April or early May. Honestly can't remember a product of ours that so many people have been so excited about. Will do our best to get that thing out there fast! #YSeries4Life"
    19 hours ago

    seems like nobody knows, even from Lenovo..
     
  23. JayEm

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    That makes much more sense, thank you for the confirmation.
     
  24. sjc752

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    Does anyone know what the material of the casing is? Based on some of the YouTube videos I've seen, it looks very plasticky. Some even showed a lot of fingerprints. Say what you will about Apple, but the MacBooks exudes quality workmanship. I'm also very fond of the ThinkPads and their build. What I don't want is Samsung-style cheap plastic feel. Even though ThinkPads are polymers as well, theirs just don't feel cheap.
     
  25. -Jinx-

    -Jinx- Notebook Evangelist

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    I dunno where you saw plastic.
    The y40 has a carbon fiber looking finish(though it-s probably aluminium underneath) and the y50 is brushed aluminium.
     
  26. JayEm

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    The whole laptop or just the top lid?
     
  27. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    I expect the Y40 to be made of the same materials in the Y400/Y410p.
     
  28. greedness

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    from what I saw from ces, it is definitely made of plastic, but it has this thick feeling, kinda like from other lenovo laptops. that doesnt make it feel cheap.
     
  29. LanceAvion

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    The materials look the same as the y400/410p/500/510p. I only difference I've noticed is the lack of a glossy finish around the keyboard, a new glossy surface just above the keyboard (between the speakers), and a new rubber like coating over the palm rest.
     
  30. JayEm

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    That's a shame. Does anyone think the final production model might change significantly or is this too much to hope for? I was hoping for some aluminium goodness :(
     
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    Man if the Y50 can be hackintoshed, then it will be my dream machine.
     
  32. greedness

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    Why would you want that? most people I know that has mac wants boot camp on theirs.
     
  33. shahmeer

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    Joined this site just for this thread!

    Does anyone know if it has been confirmed by lenovo that the Y40 does definitely not have the 860M? If it does it would be perfect for me because I use my laptop for work as well as gaming, so it would be easier to use the Y40 for me.

    Also, many people claim that the Y50 has dual fan cooling. Does anybody know if the Y40 will have it?

    Super excited for these laptops
     
  34. greedness

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    Cant confirm if y40 will have nvidia as an option. Can almost confirm though that it'll have integrated intel gpu on it's lower end models.
     
  35. shahmeer

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    What about dual fan cooling?
     
  36. greedness

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    To tell you the truth, I dont think so. Im pretty sure I only saw single vents on both of em. And if it does have dual fans, they would've probably told us so in their announcements.
     
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    Oh. Well, fingers crossed! :)
     
  38. -Jinx-

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    Dude ...you are the most misinforming poster in this thread. A while back i posted several videos.

    In one of them the lenovo presentation video for the y50 is running on the laptop and it's showing dual fans.

    In several of the others the laptop(y50) is presented as having an aluminium body with brushed finish on the outside and rubberized finish on the palmrest....stop talking if you have no clue.

    You are posting only on your opinions without any proof to back it up.
     
  39. shahmeer

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    Do you think the y40 will have dual fans too?
     
  40. greedness

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    I never said it didnt have dual fans, I said it had a 'single vent' on the bottom. I live literally 4 blocks away from Venetian and saw the unit myself. It had aluminum on the lid, but the body is definitely plastic.
     
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    Aluminium top is a good compromise i suppose. Just hope the plastic portion is more towards the ThinkPad type than that of Samsung.
     
  42. dronelebeau

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    if the both y40 and y50 have an intel gpu only option then what's the use of dual fans? :confused:
     
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    Jeeesus....you are clueless aren't you.

    The top and bottom are made of the same material and it's brushed/crosshatch aluminum.....it's visible in all the videos and was presented as such by all the reviewers. The only piece that is plastic is the glossy part at the too of the keyboard near the hinge.

    The handrest is RUBBERISED/matte ...that's why it looks like plastic to you.

    The "single vent" on the bottom is for air INTAKE. The air is exhausted under the screen hinge ...the same like most new laptops.

    On the screen of the y50 in the following video you have lenovo's presentation running. At one point it shows the dual fans.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LycY63kCGXs


    It's very hard for me to believe that you actually saw this thing when you are spewing all this nonsense.
     
  44. -Jinx-

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    It's simple...if they can make an option without a dGPU they can definetly make it with only one of the two coolers
     
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    Hmmm.... After watching the video, the guy said at 2:04 "From outside, a very good metal like design, but it is absolutely not metal." I understand German a bit, so i don't think it's metal, but i am certain that it is a very high quality material.
     
  46. H01D3N

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    I did see your stuff before, and yeah it pretty much answers the op's question. But it isn't full aluminum with just a "rubberized palmrest." Aluminum isn't a huge fingerprint magnet like the Y50 from CES clearly is.
     
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    Lol you probably don't even know what aluminum is. First of all, like I said before, aluminum isn't a fingerprint magnet. The Y50 and Y40 are. Secondly, if you know anything about the properties of aluminum, you would know that it is light. So why does the Y50 start at 5.7 lbs then? No single component of the computer would greatly increase its weight, considering the base model doesn't even have a dGPU. Third, aluminum functions as a heat sink. You wouldn't need a huge dual fan for running a GTX 860M, at most. Also, look at the Y50. It's 2 pieces of material put together. Bottom part has to be plastic. The screen top is aluminum, but that's about it.
     
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    I guess you'll just have to see the unit yourself when you get one.
     
  49. -Jinx-

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    I know very well the physical properties of alluminium as I'm an engineer.

    The top and the bottom are the SAME material

    Plastic is LIGHTER then aluminium so if it was plastic it would weigh less.

    There are plenty aluminium laptops that OVERHEAT even with dual fans because no manufacturer wants the body to act as a heatsink.... that's why they insulate the heatsinks as much as possible from the metalic parts of the body...otherwise you would get severe burns since the processor can reach 90 degrees and the gpu 70/80

    Nuff said.
     
  50. greedness

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    That's coming from a guy who don't know the difference between 'then' and 'than'. And I've seen plastic laptops that weighs much more than this so argument invalid.
     
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