Y50 Thread

Not trying to bash lenovo, but what exactly makes you say that? We are talking about the company that has shown time and time again how poorly it communicates and how clueless its reps are. Hell I wouldn't be too shocked if Brian's message to them reaches another clueless rep that doesn't know what 48 hz and 60 hz mean.

I really REALLY want this issue fixed, but lenovo has shown me nothing thus far for me to put any faith in it being done

 

Gaming is also a small part of Lenovo's business model, which focuses more on business line of systems.. I high doubt that they will even listen to us, a small community of gamers.. But hey crazy things can happen, there is still a small chance of possibility..

 

What exactly makes me say that? If the sales rate don't go up and higher returning rates along with customer complaints? I think you generalized lenovo too much based on their advertisement teams. For all we know, Lenovo isn't stupid, otherwise it wouldn't have the largest share in the laptop market. It certainly cares about sales and customer feedback. Resellers will also complain because they'll be affected too. If it gets enough negative feedback it'll certainly make a change. Plus this isn't a hard problem to fix, there's no need for a recall or cost increase or anything. All it need to do is just call Intel and be like "yo, mah man, gemme 60hz drivers please."

We can wait and see how Lenovo is gonna respond and it surely isn't then usual bs if we can get enough attention.

Btw don't tell me pepple won't complain because they don't the difference. People aRe willing to invest in 4k but don't know refresh rates? Does that sound right to you?

 

What you said may be true but how long will that all take? A few months once they gather enough sales info? By then a newer, better laptop will be out. I need a laptop basically within a month, and if I don't get confirmation that this issue will be fixed I'll sadly have to look elsewhere. It would be one thing if they give an official statement in a timely manner and the actual drivers come out a bit later, but buying based on the *chance* that lenovo will act sensibly? They haven't earned the benefit of the doubt.

 

Go ahead, that contributes towards lowering sales, good for consumers :thumbsup:

 

This:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/toshiba/751921-toshiba-p50t-bst2n01-4k-laptop-unboxing.html

and this:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/toshiba/754547-tecra-w50-4k-display-availability.html

 

Guys got some questions and proporsals:
1) Could some one explain me why 4k display in such small screen is so big and important thing? Isn't 15,6 to small for this resolution? Why pressure is big on such small 4k screen and graphic card which performance is far far below required for 4k?
2) Could we move some discussions to other topics? For this momenf there is no valuable information about performance, heat /coling management, noise. Most of last pages are related to 48hz in 4k, discounts and refresh rate in games in general. Sorry guys but in this moment this topic is trash can.
My intention was not to offend anyone so don't beat me

 

In response to your #2. I made a thread there to try and sort information and discussion. (Maybe keep other information in this thread we are currently in)
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ide...y50-screen-compendium-discussion-fhd-uhd.html

 

We are all focused on the 4k display not mainly because it is 4k but because the screen panel is much higher quality. The FHD screen is very mediocre and has very low color gamut of 60% sRGB and 45% adobeRGB. The 4k version of the screen has 97% sRGB and 72% adobeRGB meaning much more accurate colors. Furthermore, the 4k version is IPS and FHD is TN, meaning FHD has terrible viewing angles while 4k version has great ones. The actual 4k capability is just sprinkles on top tbh, though it will probably be great for some movies, as well as future proofing it when 4k becomes more common.

"This topic is trash can"

That one made me laugh

Now wheres my baseball bat? >:}

 

The IPS screen got those specs?? are those confirmed? wow, its must be really nice then, but the 48 fps FHD limit..

 

Nope, it actually has 75% adobeRGB
I'm gonna hate the number 48 if 60hz fix isn't found haha

 

Has anyone tried to contact Lenovo about downscaling to 1080p? I have never delt with Lenovo before, but it seems silly to think that they would leave us hanging with only 48hz. I'd be very surprised if some gamer in their manufacturing department hasn't already pointed this problem out to upper management lol

 

We've sent over a request through our Lenovo contact (who understood the problem exactly), who is going to try to attempt to get an answer internally .. I put the odds at 50/50 due to Lenovo's internal communication issues. I don't think it would hurt if others called in about it .. I'm sure they are seeing multiple returns due to this issue, but it's hard to say how many returns are actually happening, and out of the thousands of systems sold - how many people are really returning due to 48, much less even notice.

Of course having an official review site pointing it out as a major flaw would help as well, but we haven't come across one yet.

 

That's good to hear, hopefully we hear something soon whether it's positive or negative.

 

You're right, 4k is a little overkill. 4K on a 15.6" screen means the average person would not be able to distinguish the pixels unless closer than about 12". My eyes are not that close to the screen - more like 18". Unfortunately 4k is the newest fad and that's what all these manufacturers are choosing to use, even though mobile graphics cards are not ready to game on them yet. I personally would rather have seen a QHD option(2560x1440), since that is on the fence as to where I can distinguish the pixels and it's still possible to game on. I totally thought Asus was going to head in the QHD direction after their Zenbook line last year, but it looks like they jumped ahead to 4k like everyone else.

I find this website very useful when choosing phones, tablets and monitors: Is This Retina? - DPI/PPI Display Calculator
It makes me laugh when I see phones like the LG G3 carrying a QHD display.

 

Dang, found out about this thread too late and it looks like Klicks pre order pricing is over...probably as of today I bet. Costs another $30 which isn't a huge deal. Still a bit better than lenovo employee pricing discounts.

 

Does Klick Online sell the i5 model of the Y50?

 

Am I the only one that finds it completely baffling that there's not one professional review to hit the web yet? (at least in the US from what I can tell).

 

I was thinking the same thing a couple days ago. I've never seen a laptop be out this long with no review. Maybe they all waited for the 4k.

 

Could it be that Lenovo put some kind of review embargo on them? We see it with games all the time, but is there a precedent for laptops/hardware?

 

probably just because of the wait LOL. think about it, if it took this long for y'all to get your models, how long would it take for them to get theirs assuming they don't get the express lane? plus professional reviews don't just handle the machine for a day like we do and post a write up, they actually mess it around for a few days to get a more in depth experience.

 

Consider cancelling from Lenovo and ordering from Klick. I bought the same model you did from Kilick last week and it's arriving today. Also cheaper price and no tax (why Lenovo charges tax is beyond me).

 

With the exception of the "wait" in your comment, I respectfully disagree. Look at some of the reviews from the CES event in January. "Professional reviewers" only had their hands on the things for minutes but it didn't stop some of them posting their "experienced and insightful" reviews (not the ones that just quoted specs). I'll give you that the thorough reviews may not be ready yet, but the absence of ANY reviews at this point is...interesting. I find it hard to believe the "professional unprofessional reviews" across the board suddenly developed complete and thorough testing models.

(I'm looking for examples in case I just remembered incorrectly....)

 

Especially the FHD model. It's been out a month. I guess they were all satisfied with their CES reviews until they got their hands on the 4k model.

 

There is a unboxing video for UHD version. Could you PM to this guy for the complete review especially for fps in gaming. I have sent the PM but no answer for the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bU0zB5x6Og

 

again, you are talking about pre-release reviews, which are pretty much assumptions and first hand experiences to give people wonders. those are more or less advertisements and although some may have good points in them, they don't mean much until the model is actually released. tbh, they can basically say w.e. they want in those and not worry about any consequences. post-release reviews, however, have to be ACTUALLY thorough, objective and meaningful. you can't really just have the machine for 5 minutes and post a "professional" review. it doesn't just mean running a few benchmarks and bs a couple words on the exterior, because there's just not enough user experience.

that's the probably the case. they probably feel 4k is more worth reviewing and there's more to say about it

 

that's the FHD model, not UHD

 

Check time 6:03 in the video. there is a sticker on it says it is UHD.

 

FYI: The 16gb version is $1149 on newegg right now.

 

No, it's saying that there a optional configuration for 4k in the y50 series

 

That sticker also says (Option). It's a FHD. I have the FHD with the same sticker.

 

Correction, it says:

ULTRA HD
SCREEN
(option)

-- man you all beat me to it

 

do you all guys have already 4k screen or what? how the hell you read that option stuff. I can barely understand there is something written there.

 

I'm getting my 4k model from Klick tomorrow. I'll be posting my impressions on the current technical issues (or lack thereof) with Kubuntu 14.04. Should I start a new thread for that?

 

I would think a new thread should work better, and possibly have more long term value for Linux users of the Y50. But of course it is your call

 

I'm getting the UHD Y50 in a matter of hours. So if anyone has any questions/wants me to test stuff let me know.

 

might be of a little chance lenovo might do the same for you guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUT1r4M7DFQ&feature=youtu.be

he ordered the Y510p and received a Y50 without additional fee because lenovo seems to have run out of the 510ps.
check his vid starting at 00:40.

 

I also think the new thread would be better for Linux users. Could you test the temperatures under Linux and if it handles Optimus correctly?

 

My base model from Klick shipped today and should be here Thursday! Really looking forward to it! Could someone point me in the direction of Windows 8.1 clean install plus drivers tutorial? Like with actual steps? I found this link How to do a clean install of Windows 8.1/8 | GearNuke but it doesn't mention anything about how to install the drivers afterward

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ide...owners-information-thread-70.html#post9702408

Someone else mentioned later on that changing settings in the BIOS is unnecessary if you can find a tool that supports UEFI that can put 8.1 on a flash drive. Either way, it really doesn't matter.


EDIT:
Sorry, misread.
Drivers are extremely easy. After following the steps in that link you posted, once you have the laptop up and running, go here:
Laptops and netbooks :: Lenovo Y Series laptops :: Y50 70 Notebook Lenovo - Lenovo (US)

In the box that says Operating System, change it to Windows 8.1. Then download everything on that page and run it. Follow the steps that they give you.

Don't be afraid to explore a little, do things without every step laid out for you. It's not like you're going to hurt anyone or anything.

 

Thanks. Hopefully I don't run into any problems

 

Could you check that 48 Hz refresh time in detailed perspective? you can give a shot with any recent game.

 

Not sure what a "detailed perspective" would be lol. It's going to be up to the individual if 48 compared to 60 fps is going to effect them. Can't you cap your fps to 48 through v sync in whatever game you play and compare it to 60 and see then?

 

Anyone else having problems with youtube? The videos don't load or load very slowly.

 

There's multiple cases of people being unable to set a custom resolution and refresh rate.

Either Intel is just unaware of it or simply doesn't care :/, and I doubt its the former considering its been like this for a while

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3217115

http://superuser.com/questions/7187...on-using-intel-custom-mode-app-in-windows-8-1

 

Just a random thought guys. Would u think lenovo could have squeezed better type of screens if they went with a lesser premium speaker brand? i mean JBL is an expensive brand, if they went with say Onkyo, Altec Lansing, Creative or in house speakers, they could have saved $ and transfered it to the screens.

 

Hello guys . Maybe this question has been asked but is there any difference between a 860m 2 gb vs 4gb and is it worth it to spend some extra money on extra vram and does these 2 gb has an affect on battery life? sorry for my english

 

Simple answer is nope, 2gb is fine.

 

I would think so.

This is a laptop. Screen > speakers. Headphones are cheap and easy to replace. Even the best laptop speakers can't hold a candle to quality desktop speakers, or even high end headphones.

But what's done is done. No use crying over spilled milk. But hopefully Lenovo learns from this.

It's utterly ridiculous to advertise your premium speakers when your screen sucks.

 

Thank you for your quick answer . What about battery life? I am really interested in buying this laptop so i am choosing the best option so sorry for bothering...