Y50 Thread

I bet lenovo is watching this thread in secret. They're screwing with us, giving us false price points and limited info so that we turn against each other on what the palm rest is made up of or the release date.
It's simple. We are the hamsters running the wheel and they are the researchers.

 

What a brilliant idea for a social experiment. :thumbsup:

 

Hello guys!
very nice thread.
also is it just me or is the base config underwhelming at the price?
15" 1080 glossy nontouch, no backlit 4700m or 4702m with integrated gpu 1Tb 8Gb.
$999 ??

 

Their base prices might vary, but the configuration I'd be purchasing, I'm sure they will all be in the same ballpark.

I've also weeded out the Razer. Beautiful unit, but I don't like the fact that RAM is fixed at 8GB and not expandable.


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That's a downright scam. Especially since i've seen the FHD Matte Y510p with single 755M, 4700MQ for around 850$.

however

That is most likely the base price. Lenovo often makes "sales" (aka fake discounts), so that config might drop to a more affordable 799$.

Also i'm wondering if the IGP only models have Iris Pro.

 

Is there iris pro on these mobile quad cores?

 

Hope the "fake discount" is also not 5 months late.
and 860 with iris pro will be nice !
i wonder how 1080 gameplay will look on 4k? hmm.....
(and i only really care about the gameplay)

 

Lenovo does not make laptops with MXM GPU's...at least not for their consumer line(have no idea for workstations).

Only the MXM variant of the 860m is kepler...the soldered version is maxwell so the y50 will almost surely have a maxwell chip.(if you choose the one with dedicated GPU)


Also 4700 & 4702 versions of the i7 don't come equiped with the Iris Pro. Never have never will....the Iris Pro is just on intels high end chips.

 

Wow, that's a monster!! (8.6lb) My desktop is probably lighter than that laptop, well, not including the monitor (I have huge heavy monitor)

 

The only one that I know of that has Iris Pro graphics is the i7 4750HQ. Of course, thats just a standard consumer market processor; there are plenty other ones out there, but they are harder to find. Unless you count the Macbook Pro lines.

 

That looks like a great laptop and should be a ton of fun to game with, so more power to you! Personally, I feel once gaming laptops hit the $1500+ price point, the convenience vs value factor starts shifting heavily in the favor of just building a desktop at that point. I feel $900-$1100 is the sweet spot for me of getting something decently powerful in a gaming laptop and not going too crazy with my budget. That's what interested me with the y510 (before nVidia announced the 800m series), and I hope a y50 with a 860m will be able to hit that price range as well.

But again, that's just me. I'm sure it'll feel great to play some maxed out games on that thing while the rest of us are still waiting to see how lenovo prices this!

 

what's the difference between regular and mxm cards?

 

MXM designated CPUs/GPUs are removable and upgradable.

Mobile PCI Express Module - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

No MXM-capable laptop weighs under 7 pounds and is under 1.5 inches thick though.

 

Man, this is taking so long that i am not even in the market for a gaming laptop anymore lol! I am still interested in how the y50 turns out to be. Just not going to purchase another gaming laptop at this point.

 

I'm waiting for the Y50 for Visual Studio development because of the 4K screen. Is this like a month away or more like 3 months away? Any other alternative with a 15" or larger screen and 4K resolution?

 

Lenovo said it should be released by May. But they also said that the Z40 and Z50 should've been released by now, so I don't trust any of their ETAs anymore...

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3 months away probably. If you need 4K, try the Dell XPS line of laptops. There are certain models that also come with Nvidia graphics cards. Your cheapest option for 4K may be an HP Spectre.

 

Can you elaborate on why you want a 4k screen. I am interested in getting a laptop for programming and interested in including occassional gaming on it. On a small 15.6 screen how is 4k a boon?

 

QHD+ is not 4K (UHD)

3200x1800 is 1600x900*4
4k = UHD = 3840x2160 is 1920x1080*4

Its like comparing 900p to FHD.

 

Just to add to Jobine's post because he didn't make it fully clear.

Both the laptops you listed are QHD and not UHD like the poster asked.

Lots of screen real estate means that you have increased productivity especially when multitasking with several windows open side by side.

Also as a programmer you get to view big chunks of code instead of a few lines making it easier to review your work.

The fact that the screen is 4k makes it easier to read even small text due to the amazing clarity.

 

I dont know how you would even read on a 4k 15.6" display.
Windows doesn't scale things well. Mac osx does it and makes their display usable.

 

I really want to upgrade from my Y500. I found this other laptop and was wondering which is better in terms of Build Quality and Battery Life etc between the Y50 because it has similar specs with the it.

MSI USA - Dragoon Army Site | GS60 Ghost Gaming Notebook

 

Go for it if you want to. That is an extremely good laptop. Best keyboard I've ever seen. I would buy one myself if it had 14"...

 

the y500 is still fairly new. just SLI it and wait for next gen 20nm maxwell.

 

You won't get much of a performance upgrade (10-15% at best) from the Y500. But you will get something thinner and lighter. Personally it's not worth a 1700$ investment. The Y500 is still more than capable, and you are better off buying something later on.

I'd wait for UHD/4K to go mainstream. If the build quality of the Y series bothers you, wait for other laptops with 4K to come out. The Toshiba Tecra W50 will have a 4K display (same panel as Y50) and a Quadro K2100M for around 2000$ AFAIK.

But hey, it's your money. If your Y500 is crapping out on you and you need a new laptop ASAP this is an excellent choice. It's just not much of an upgrade from the Y500.

 

And you get the added benefit of squeeze your eyes really really hard in trying to read the tiny fonts on your 15 inch 4K screen. Multiply windows open? No problem! As long as you bring your magnifier! Oh and, you are probably going to be blind soon doing that

 

The advantage of 4k is that it scales perfectly down to FHD, so you not only get what is IMO the perfect text size, but it will look very sharp.

 

Theres no point getting a 4k screen if you are using it in 1080p right?

 

Well, it's much better on the eyes, text and pictures look more crisp. Would you rather have a QHD+ or 900p on your Yoga?

But it's still not much of an upgrade over FHD considering that you would be using it at the same resolution, but I personally don't see the point dropping 1700$ on a laptop that has barely any more functionality. Wait for new tech to come out, if you can.

Also 4K allows you do also downscale to other (workable) resolutions like 3K and QHD, while maintaining a perfectly scaled FHD for gaming.

 

So I can game on FHD even if I have a 4K screen with no problems or fps drops?

 

Thanks for the reply. I was planning on selling my unit anyways. I don't really like the SLI because most of my games don't support it and I want to game sometimes unplugged without the drop in performance. I'm intrigued by the new GeForce Battery Saver. What's bothering me is how 4K will affect battery life and gaming performance while unplugged.

 

4k will scale perfectly to 1080p. Thats the way its meant to be used when playing games.
You are definitely not going to game on 4k resolution with current gpu technologies though.

 

4k @ 30fps is doable with 780ti SLI afaik.

4K display will smash the battery life of an otherwise FHD laptop by at least 30%, i'd say. Hence why the Y50 has a projected battery life of only 4 hours, compared to the non-sli Y510p/Y410p's 6 hours.

 

Exactly, that's what I have to do with my Yoga 2 Pro. Scale it down to 1080p, you can argue the fonts/text are more pleased to read, but I do NOT get extra asset when I am scaled down to 1080p vs native 1080p, which was the argument he made earlier. I hope it makes sense

A: Oh you get so much more screen asset with 1800P. Working on multiple windows at the same time, etc.

B: It's really hard to read thou.

A; That's why you scale it down to 1080p, it's beautiful!!

B: Ok.... What about the extra screen asset?

A: Of course you get more screen asset when you are in 1800p! Come on!

B: But it's hard to read in 1800p.

A: That's why you scale it down to 1080p!!!

B: .....

 

you cant fit a 780ti sli into a laptop so thats pointless. This is a notebook forum.

 

Not with that attitude you can't.

 

If you can use an 11 inch Zenbook with full HD then you can use the y50 with 4K.

Last time I checked the screen on the Zenbook was very much apreciated.

 

For the record, I posted those two computers because they are at a very good price point (espscially HP), QHD and UHD aren't much different, and QHD is scaled MUCH better on windows. For a high res screen, those are both great options. You can get Lenovo's with QHD or UHD anyway. So to the OP, just look on manufacturers' websites and see what has what you need.

 

Hahaha so, so wrong. Regular HD is standard on many 11 inch laptops. So, by your logic, regular HD should make things look "bigger." Everything is optimized for FHD. Have you never seen an Asus Zenbook or Transformer Book with FHD? Most programs are optimized for Full HD, so regardless of screen size, things will look nicer. Gee, I wonder why it may seem like things are harder to see on a 11-incher? Maybe because its an 11-INCH display???

 

I think that people really underestimate the power drains that not only 4K brings about, but also using the touchscreen. The Y50 is really a "multimedia" laptop more than a gaming laptop, so don't expect great performance when unplugged. Jobine is exactly right with the battery life estimates, that's really useful to take into consideration.

 

what are you talking about? The 4k y50 does not come with touch screen and the y50 touch doesn't have 4k.

 

Nowhere does it say that you can't have both at the same time. There is no actual info (that I could find) on this whatsoever, but I don't see why not? So, I don't see why you'd jump to this conclusion. Source please?

 

The lenovo y50 and y40 poster
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...sjLQOt5f2qTONt1UQ&sig2=S0Yr1PzuAvdkEJD2Sa0sSg

 

The lenovo y50 and y40 poster
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...sjLQOt5f2qTONt1UQ&sig2=S0Yr1PzuAvdkEJD2Sa0sSg

 

I think that if you have trouble understanding the english language..... then you really should not be commenting on other peoples posts.

I will not bother to explain it again.


And yes if you run 2 screens(with the same diagonal) side by side one with full HD and the other with HDnative resolutions then all the windows environment(icons text etc) will look "bigger" on the HD one....please notice that i did not say "better"....only "bigger"

That's because the actual physical sizes of the pixels are different....a pixel on a fullHD native resolution 11" screen is much smaller than a pixel on an 11" screen with HD native resolution...that's just how LCD displays are built.

So while virtually the image is comprised of the same number of pixels the way you view the image will be different because of the physical size of the individual pixels on each of the 2 screens

 

CES showed the y50 with 4k and touchscreen display so it's definetly an option.

As for the link you posted it says:

"Optional UHD or standard FHD touch or non-touch"

That basically says that both screens are available i touch or non-touch variant.

If the 4k was not available with touch then it should be saying :

"Optional UHD non-touch or standard FHD touch or non-touch"

Again....please learn to read before posting nonsense on forums.

 

You do know that there is another option ....don't you?

With windows 8.1 bringing 200% scaling you have the option to scale the toolbars & text size to 200% while benefiting from 4k on the rest of the areas.

This would greatly simplify image editing for example...the actual work area would benefit from 4k while the tools/icons/text would be enlarged.

For people saying windows doesn't scale well...it's not windows that doesn't scale well...in 200% scaling the windows environment scales PERFECTLY(unlike the previously available 125 and 150%)

It's third party software like the Adobe suite that was not created with high DPI displays and scaling in mind that mucks things up.

However I am sure that with 4k becoming the "NEW full HD" soon, software developers will remedy their mistakes.

http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/.../15/windows-8-1-dpi-scaling-enhancements.aspx

For those of you who want to use this laptop for only one year before replacing it with something new 4k displays might not be worth it.....but for people like me who use a laptop for up to 5 years 4k displays are a way of future-proofing your laptop.

If things aren't remedied in 2014 for high-DPI displays then i'll just use it in 1080p...but after that I'll be able to benefit from all the 4k goodness for the rest of 3-4 years that I'll be using it.

People need to stop being so walled up and refuse change....if our ancestors refused change we'd still be walking arround naked and eating raw meat and whatever berries/roots we could find.

"UGH..fire bad...no cook meat...take longer...can get burns...better raw!!"
)

 

What do you guys think could be the price of Y50 with full hd and touch screen ?

 

Hey,
I went to Dustin computer expo in Stockholm yesterday and asked abt y50 at the Lenovo booth; Should arrive in about a months time from now.
The first rep i talked to had never heard of it though but he asked a more senior Lenovo rep who had been at CES.

Sadly no y50, y40 or any of the new Z series was there on show but the Stockholm expo is pretty small so I wasnt too surprised.

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