Y50 Thread

Hey all, I am wondering what type of CAD performance the Y50 with gtx 8--M will give. Certainly not workstation like, but what can be expected on SolidWorks, Auto CAD, and the like. Thanks!

 

that's more likely it. do you guys think lenovo will do a student discount in august, assuming the y50 is released by then?

 

The 860m would be the best you could get for a laptop. All the other superior gpus wont give anything significant. Unless of course if you get one of those Quadros. But those aren't really good for gaming.

 

Huh? Quadros perform just as well as comparable GeForces for gaming, with the added benefit of having more stable drivers with better performance/optimization in 3D workstation applications. Of course they're also insanely overpriced for what you're getting, which is essentially double VRAM and better OpenGL support. My Quadro FX 1600M performs just as well as a GeForce 8700M GT in games. You can also use modded INF to install GeForce drivers on a Quadro and vice versa, but I don't see why you would do that as the Quadro drivers perform just as well for games in 99.99% of cases.

 

Fully agree with octiceps on this one and would just like to add that you can get up to a 880m in a laptop so I don't know why you would think 860m is max.

For the user asking about 860m in solidworks and other workstation software....the 860m has the raw power to take on most of what you can throw at it....it just doesn't have the driver support.

Ao if right now you can live without above mentioned driver support it means that you will probably be content with the 860m

 

about 3 - 4 years ago, I remember my dad having 2 desktops because of his ati radeon wont perform good on rendering but can play any games, and vice versa for the quadro.

and i also did a bit of research, they still do not perform as much as the other gaming gpus
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/workstation-graphics-card-gaming,3425-13.html

 

That link just shows that the FirePros perform about as well as their Radeon equivalents given their clock speed disadvantage, with the exception of the W8000 which seems to be an outlier for some reason.

 

Yeah, too bad pro cards usually cost A LOT more than their gaming equivalents.

For example, the GTX TITAN and K6000 were the same card, one costed 1000$ and the other 6000$.

So for the price of a single pro card you can often double the gaming cards, if not buy a higher tier card.

Also, why the hell is a Quadro needed in the Idea line, especially the Y series? The only thing the Quadro would do in a gaming laptop (one that's not even ISV certified!) is jack up the price.

 

No one said a quadro is needed... this was a discussion that stemmed from one user asking if the 860m could handle 3D rendering.

 

So back to what I said before...anyone think there will be a student discount in august for the y50 maybe?

 

dont they have like a student discount running all the time?

yep they do http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/portal...57984&ef_id=U0mlgQAABQfqIq1L:20140412204424:s

 

what I mean is like a back to school or something like that. I'm assuming the kick-off price for y50 will not be that great

 

Well, I planned on getting the Y510p today because my old computer dies every other day now. So I went on Lenovo's page and half the models are gone in 2 days! Y410p prices are up a little and they got rid of 1 model. Y510p models are being jacked up in price and I think that 2 models are gone, maybe 3. I'm thinking the Y50 will be late April after all.

Well, before they would have done some special back to school "coupon" sort of thing (make people think that they are saving money). Now that they just do instant savings, I really don't know but I don't think so.

 

Just did a bit of cleanup in this thread. This is a good time to remind everyone of the forum rules and also that if someone if giving you trouble, report them. Getting grief from someone doesn't give you a free pass at breaking the forum rules either. It just makes for more cleaning up by the mods.

 

still not out? keeps getting pushed back month after month after month smh

 

Original release date is May 2014. So no delays so far.

 

when it was first announced they said march/april

 

so did you end up getting it or just keep waiting?

 

they never said that. even at CES they said it would be may, not march/april

 

Thats for the z40 / z50, I think. Which is now about 1 month delayed already.

 

For Thinkpad, there is sort of 'back to school' deal that make the price go down for another $70-80. I bought T430 in 2012 summer for 690 (Normally around 800). However, I am not sure about the Ideapad lineup.

 

Was it only for universities? I hope they accept high schools too..

 

For those who didnt see this yet...I tweeted at Lenovo asking about the Y50 and this is what they said... View attachment 110839

 

Apologies if this is a bit off topic, but how well could I expect the GTX 860M in the Y50 to run Star Citizen? It's probably one of my main reasons for upgrading. My current situation doesn't really permit me to have a desktop, and I'd like a laptop that isn't a tank if at all possible.
If it helps I'd be looking to play at 1080p with the highest settings as I could manage while maintaining 30fps.
Thoughts?

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Star citizen is a very cpu intensive game afaik. I think even the latest i7s will have trouble. Maybe look into a MITX build for you.

 

I think so. But that is for Thinkpad. Not sure about Ideapad (Y50) this summer.

 

You will not get an accurate answer for this as Star Citizen is far from feature complete and optimized.

My gut tells me an 860M better be able to play it fine. Granted you might not be cranking details up, but again, no one can accurately answer this, not even the developers.

 

It is made on CryEngine, if i'm not mistaken, so it should be around the same as Crysis or Far Cry 3.

 

I'll get the Y510p, just because my old one won't run long enough to wait for the Y50. I still hate the idea of an off-center keyboard, but the Y50 will have it too anyway. I still keep coming back to the SLI problem. I can get the Y510p at the Microcenter 10 minutes from my house, but they only have the SLI version. But for the same price as the non-SLI, is the SLI version worth it?

 

Why won't you wait for the Y50? I'm also searching for a new slim powerful laptop. My choices are either y50 or GS60. Won't Y510p be outdated in the next few years? And it's much more not portable.

 

Believe me that's very, very wishful thinking. Look up Star Citizen's current system requirements on the RSI Forums and Chris Roberts' recent comments on the matter. Your jaw will drop. It's clear Star Citizen is gonna make computers cry like Crysis 1 did back in the day.

 

My current one crashes and dies every day now, so I need a reliable computer. Gaming isn't high priority for me, but graphics-intensive applications are, such as running Photoshop and After Effects. Portability isn't a huge factor in my decision. The Y510p won't be very outdated as long as Nvidia keeps releasing GPUs with different names and similar specs to the last generation. My only concern is, how bad are the SLI issues?

 

Same reason why Im going for the 14" instead of the 15.6". Only if they made bigger laptops without the numpad. Anyways, good luck on your y510p. I just hope that you wont regret it though after the y50 is launched 1 month from now.

 

I don't know if this is posted here before, but for those interested, the y40's gpu "AMD R9 m270" will be a rebranded "AMD HD 8800m" series.


Seeing as the R9 m290x has a slight better performance than its counter part, the HD 8970m, we should be expecting a slightly better HD 8870M for our y40.

If this is the case, then the y40's R9 m270 is pretty much the same as the y410p's gt 755m.

EDIT : oh and btw, I'm only assuming that the coming soon below m290x is the m270.

 

If you're gonna follow desktop card naming schemes what about M290, M280X, M280, and M270X? Those are all R9 cards above 270.

 

Maybe they're not gonna make any. AnandTech Portal | AMD Reveals First Mobile Radeon M200 Parts & Rebadges

 

While that is true, don't forget that the desktops have no r5 series. They may simply be using them as an example, and not mirroring them. Hopefully, though, the blank is the R9 270m. If not, the low specs on that card will make me retreat back to my Lenovo Y480 (1st Gen).

Also, does anybody know the expected actual battery life for this laptop? If it is using an HD 8870m, won't the battery life be complete crap, and the cooling need to be jet-engine levels?

 

270 = 7870
280 = 7950
280x = 7970

Not sure about the mobile 8xxx series but you can take these as reference.

 

Not too bad, performance is still similar to 8870m. But still, how will you cool it, even with 2 fans?

 

Rebrands everywhere. <s>Even Nvidia's 800m series are a bunch of rebrands</s>

 

Not true, the 860m is essentially the desktop 750ti, and the lower tier cards are mostly 28nm maxwell. From what I've seen, only the higher tier cards run Kepler.

 

Not true, the 860m is essentially the desktop 750ti. And the lower tier cards are mostly 28nm maxwell. Only the higher tier cards seem to be running Kepler.

 

You're right. Only AMDs are rebrands then.

 

So, I couldn't find any good comparisons but what do people think will be the difference between the Y50 and GS60? It looks the screen on the Y50 will be substantially nicer but my question is more about upgradabiltiy, price, and build quality.

1. Are the higher end Lenovo brands good build quality compared to the better MSI stuff?
2. Will the Y50 be in the $1500 range after adding an 860 or should I expect something much closer $2000?
3. Do either Manufactuer have philosophical differences? Are Lenovo's usually more upgradable? Does MSI use better RAM or other components?

Sorry if these are basic questions but I'm trying to see if it's worth waiting until May for the Y50 at this point of if I should pull the trigger on GS60.

 

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I guess it will be around 1500 with 4k screen...I hope we will be able to choce a 1080p screen vers...so the price will be much lower.

 

The only thing thats worth waiting for the y50 is the 4k screen. If you're not into that, and unless you really like how the y50 looks, then you should go for the GS60.

 

Or if you want a touch screen gaming laptop you should also wait. ^

 

or if you want a Maxwell based GPU

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The new GS60 also has the same gtx 860.

 

How they are going to offer an attractive laptop with an 860M and 4K panel for $1500 is beyond me.