Y50 Thread

Could you post a link to those pictures please?

I just visited the lenovo shop and there is absolutely nothing new in the y50 section.

 

I don't know where you live, however, in the US (at least), Lenovo's page for the y50 has a crapton of new pictures, which also show that there are about 2-3 inches of vents on the back of the laptop for cooling.... Not good....

 

Nice try, Lenovo employee Now give us a real date!!

Btw, in the FAQ of y50 product page. The staff changed their answers from that default "we don't know" bull to a more "concrete" answer: "coming out in the next few months"

Yeah, Lenovo rocks.

 

Those are not vents...or atleast they are not the only vents. I posted a presentation video from ces a while back showing that the main exhaust vent is behind the screen hinge like most laptops nowadays.

I checked the us version of the website and couldn't find them...that's why i was asking for a link

This is where i'm looking
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/y-series/y50/?tt=ufadfw#features

That's the us version i believe.

 

That is exactly the same link I look into but I don't know what's the problem you can't see them...

 

Sorry, wrong post.

 

Hmmm...maybe it's because i'm watching it on my phone. I'll try later on my laptop.

Anyway I found the youtube video I was talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LycY63kCGXs

On the screen of the y50 you have running the official lenovo teaser video wich shows a dual fan cooling system and the main exhaust being behind the screen. Maybe the 2 thingies at the sides in the rear are also vents but there's no indication of that right now.

 

Here's the new picture of the bottom of the laptop: http://www.lenovo.com/images/gallery/1060x596/lenovo-laptop-y50-covers-11.jpg

And here's one showing the possible vents on the back end: http://www.lenovo.com/images/gallery/1060x596/lenovo-laptop-y50-side-16.jpg

Edit: I did a bit of hunting in their Q and A page and found this staff reply from April 17th: "The Y50 release is due by end of the month." Obviously take it with a grain of salt because it is Lenovo we're talking about and they've contradicted themself in later replies, but that's certainly promising.

 

I didn't see any new photos on the site (though two weren't showing at all). But what I did notice is that I think they updated the features page. I feel like they may have added more information. For example they actually verified that up to a GTX 860M graphics card would be available.

Check it out!

Lenovo Y50 Laptop | 15.6" High-Performance Gaming Notebook PC | Lenovo (US)

 

Exactly the same for me. Two pictures won't even show at all. Is the 1 TB SSHD storage new too?

 

For those of you who can't see the pictures.

 

Nice find @alvis051. So anyone else think that the final design is different from the CES design?

 

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Last two photos.

 

Looks like it's exactly the same machine they presented @ Ces

 

That's the Y50?! I gotta say I'm disappointed. It looks thicker and the build quality looks worse than what I'd anticipated. It's not a unibody design and I can't even tell if it's all-metal. The screen bezel looks like glossy plastic, again. I was hoping for edge-to-edge glass, especially if it's a touchscreen. -_-

 

Looks much more like the Y510 than I expected

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No full SSD option, as they say SSHD not SSD. Cross-brush aluminum finish. Some reviewers said unibody; this clearly isn't unibody. No edge-to-edge glass. (I think CES models had it, I'm not sure though.

On another note, it seems that Lenovo's Y50 doesn't have a DVD drive, but even on the features page they keep saying that it does. It doesn't really make sense.

The 1 TB SSHD would be nice if it is actually 1 TB SSD. However, with their current system the SSHD is marked as a hybrid hard drive.

And also as a side note, don't forget that this laptop isn't as thick as it looks. It tapers a lot on the sides.

And starting at 5.7 lbs? Isn't that very close to the Y510p? (non-SLI)

 

Totally agree on the edge-to-edge glass. Is there a chance that these pictures are of the non-touch model?
Not only does the screen bezel look like glossy plastic, but the area where the speakers are on top looks like it as well.
Build quality is not what I would expect from a $1000+ laptop, especially from a big company like Lenovo.

I will be sticking with my Y510p.

 

Yeah actually the US version of the Y50 page, right off their website, doesn't work for me either. This link does though. Lenovo Y50 Laptop | 15.6" High-Performance Gaming Notebook PC | Lenovo (US)

 

5.7lbs is for touchscreen version 4.7 for non touch

Dvd could be an external unit that comes bundled

The machine presented @ Ces did not have unibody design so it's the same from this point of view.

Edge to edge glass is only for touchscreen... non-touch will probably have a bezel.

 

What's the actual point of a bezel? Serious question, I never saw any advantage to having one

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In the ces videos it was clear that the speaker area above the keyboard was glossy plastic. It's the same now from the looks of it.

 

Easier access for replacing the screen. Bezels are usually screwed or clipped on while edge to edge glass is glued making it much more difficult to replace the panel in case of an accident.

 

Slices through the air better for better zombie penetration.

 

Well this changes my entire perception of this notebook. Up until now I thought it was gonna be an all-metal unibody super-sexy thin-and-light gaming notebook in the same industrial design as the Razer Blade, Aorus X7, and MSI GS60/70 but now I see this is not the case. It's just a Y510p on a diet. To be fair, those other laptops cost a lot more than the Y50, but I was hoping Lenovo would substantially undercut the competition once again.

Zombie penetration? Does it still count as necrophilia if they are technically "undead?"

 

I don't know why people are so dissapointed with the laptop. It's exactly what they advertised @ CES...nothing less nothing more.

I am however of the opinion that if you already have the y510p then the difference in performance is not worth changing.

Where this laptop wins out over it's predeceasor is portability however...2.4cm vs 4.0 cm is a big improvements IMO. The weight for the non-touch version is also drastically improved @ 4.7 lbs.

In my book the single GPU is also a good change since it's a big part of what allowed them to slim down the machine.

If they market it for a decent price it will be a real winner IMO and it will be exactly what lenovo aimed for: a reasonably slim, reasonably light, reasonably powerfull, reasonably affordable gaming rig with touch and 4k as options.

I know a lot of my friends and myself included are looking for exactly this.

Anyone wanting more power at the expense of size has plenty of other options like clevos etc

Anyone wanting slimmer and lighter has the razor blade and msi gs60 at the cost of... well at a bigger cost $$$

 

I don´t get why everybody is so obsesed with it being unibody, wouldn´t unibody make it way more difficult to acces to the hardware in order to upragading it or cleaning the fan?

 

That's what I thought when I saw the DVD/Blu-ray thing but on their website it does say "integrated optical drive." That's good about the weight being less for the non-touch.

For the Y510p, I have heard that the weight on their website actually included the weight of the power brick. Would this be the case here too?

 

It does make it harder, but It will still be difficult regardless given the thinness of the laptop. Unibody just looks really nice.

 

If anyone is interested, the Y40 looks a lot slicker. Plus no numpad, so it has a centered keyboard and touchpad. Here's the link-
Lenovo Y40 Laptop | 14" High-Performance Gaming Notebook PC | Lenovo (US)

IMO, it looks cooler than the Y410p because the carbon-fiber stylized finish is a lot more intricate.

---EDIT 1---
They added pictures from the same angles as the Y50.

 

Unibody is way more durable and the build quality just feels awesome. I wouldn't expect ugradeability and ease of access to be a strong point of this notebook anyway, and unibody is a trade-off I'd be more than willing to make for that.

 

Ah, dammit. Leaning more towards the P34g v2 now.

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Since it will not be modular like the y510p anymore i expect the fans to be accesible just as easily as any other similar laptops.

It's just a matter of how easy it is to take off the bottom plate..it might be horribly difficult or surprisingly easy.

Unibody would make it close to impossible and besides...lenovo doesn't have any history of unibody laptops so there was no reason to expect it.

I agree with you that upgradeability is definetly out the window though with the soldered GPU.

 

The more generic it looks the more price is going to be a big factor. I'll still seriously consider if I can have a 4k touch screen and GPU at $1500 even but I'll still want some confidence in the build quality. I saw the GS60 didn't get a glowing review from IGN but I don't really consider them to be that great a source. Hopefully an official release date comes shortly.

 

Another reason why it would be prefferable to have acces to the innards of the laptop just sprang to mind:

Lenovo tends to use a M2.ngff or Msata form factor ssd as a cache for their laptops.

The y580 had HDD + Msata cache.

The y510p had a HDD and a separate M2.ngff cache .

The cache on both laptops could be replaced with a full blown SSD of the appropriate format.

Since they advertise the y50 with a SSHD option it might be the same.

This would actually make up for the lack of a unibody design because it gives the laptop the best of both worlds... a fast SSD boot drive and a HDD for storage.

 

Hmmm it's even easier to open up the bottom of the unibody MacBook Pro's than it is for the Y500/Y510p. You just unscrew and lift it up. On the Lenovo you have to disengage the tabs all around the sides and middle which hold it in place. And since they're fragile and quite tight especially on the first try, more than a few people on here have broken some tabs during the process.

 

Look like this is it. It may actually be true since they were very reluctant in answering before, now they're solid on this statement.

 

Then again, on that same Q&A thread it says that the Y50 will have the 4GB GTX 860M card. I still don't know if we can trust their time frames.

 

That was from another customer, i think, not from lenovo...

 

"Product expertStaff: Hello,

The Y50 will be available with a GeForce GTX 860M 4G graphics card. Apr 13, 2014
Reply to Product expert"

No, it is from Lenovo. Look on the first Q&A on the Q&A page.

Whether they meant that it is the 4 GB version or not, I don't know.

 

The gigabyte p34g v2 has a Maxwell 860M w/4gb, so there is a precedence in the marketplace

 

Oh right. You mean the y50. I thought you were talking about the y40 where someone said it would have gtx something..

 

I do hope it has gtx 850m. The current setup with r9 m270 would create too much heat and probably not enough pixel-power for the cost.

 

For me, it is more about brand loyalty to Nvidia. It sounds crazy but I don't think I'm the only one.

 

When Lenovo say sshd, they are probably referring to the 1tb Seagate hybrid drivE that comes with 8-24 flash memory

 

Then Lenovo really has to cut down some prices, if this thing starts off 999 with intel hd only, then i don't thinj this will have any chance to compete for price. At least water it down and make the 860m standard

 

Well nvidia does actually do better in mobile gpus. AMD can compete with nvidia in desktop cards for sure, but in notebooks i really don't see AMD doing much, even their m290x isn't that outstanding as its desktop counterpart. Speaking of which, did Lenovo install the os on the flash memory part of your hybrid drive or did theygo with the stupid way and put iT in the hatd drive?

 

The flash is usually 16-24 GB, so they put it on the hard drive. Windows 8 takes up like 20 GB for the 64 bit version, and updates take up even more. So they can't put it on the small drive.

 

I seriously doubt there will be any version without a dedicated GPU since lenovo calls this laptop "Ideapad y50 / 15.6" high performance gaming notebook" in their own webpage. It would be pretty stupid to market it that way and sell it with intel HD only )

Worst case scenario i can see them marketing a version with 850m.

Any lower than that(like 840m) and it would be gowing down in territory that is already covered by the Z50/Z40 multimedia sector.

Also keep in mind the maxwell 860m GPU is soldered so again that suggests that it will be the only one and universally available on all models.

 

That's not how ssd cache works. In a SSHD you cannot see a separate ssd.
You install windows on the hdd normally.
After some use windows will determine the smalleat most used files(usually dll ) and transfers them automatically to the cache. Nothing is done manually. The cache is invisible to you as long as it's being used as a cache.

That's not a very impressive boost of speed in itself but the option to remove the cache and replace it with a full blown SSD is the real advantage for the end user.