Y50 Thread

As far as I am aware... Only sharp makes 15.6'' 4k displays.... And according to the manual the model is by scd ... Which could stand for sharp corporation... But there were speculations of Samsung screens in the thread ... That could be it too.. Also last year's y510p had an amazing tn panel... I'd wait before ditching the laptop...

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Yesterday after reading all this discusion about the IPS displays, I was watching my Y510p screen, I turned around it watching it from all the angles and I was abble to see perfectly from most of angles (something that most of my friends cheapper non gaming laptops cant). Then I went to play Trine 2 (a very bright and colorful game) and the experience was delightful. I dont doubt that IPS must be better, but for the ones that dont know it yet I dont think is a MUST HAVE taking in count how current Lenovo Y Series screens are good already and especially if your going budget, just my opinion...

Hope Lenovo would let us customize our laptops part by part like Dell and other does, that way everyone would get exactly what they need.

 

Samsung's PLS technology is better than IPS technology. Don't speculate until you see the real deal.

 

I don't own a y510p but I saw some reviews. Would you care to explain what you find so good about these y510p viewing angles:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_black1_4822879273.jpg

Particularly the bottom one. Thanks.

 

I have a Y500, with probably the same screen panel as the Y510p. The viewing angles are very good, I've never noticed anything bad about them and I'm not sure why many people care because I don't move the screen a lot nor do I have people complain that are next to me when I'm playing video games (One friend on each side).

 

Well I mostly checked from the sides, I didnt did that bottom check (I cant think on any real life/practical situation where you would need to look at your laptop from that weird angle, like rising it above your head or placing it on a higher place), also consider that the review picture is from an absolutely 100% dark room which is not always the usual use scenario. Sometimes I watch movies with my GF on it, she sits on my side or sometimes even on the side and behind (like on a diagonal direction), I always ask her if she can look propperly from there (since I know how most laptops screens are) and she always says yes, totally and watch the whole movie, we have done that many times. I tried myself and agreed that I could watch propperly.

Sure an IPS must be perfect from any angle I suppose (even from the angles that would never be seen anyways) but again personally I think like 98%+ of an average laptop "real" use is seen from exacly front angle or at least just kinda from the sides. Im just talking from the budget side, I would love to have an IPS pannel sure, but I know one of the main pros of the Y series is offering even sub $1k quality gaming laptops. Again hope we get many options to choose from for every different need.

 

So am I correct in that the only thin "thin" laptops with Maxwell are currently the Razer, Y50, and P34?

I'm trying to go for an IPS screen with Maxwell as my only two real wants and there really don't seem to be many options right now.unless I'm missing some machines.

 

not just weird angles but even the front flat facing angle (pic in middle) shows uneven lighting (top half of screen slightly darker by the edges. I appreciate a perfect picture and thats what ips offers

But hey, if TN works for you, you should definately go for it as it's cheaper

 

Razer has maxwell.?

 

Visual quality is a lot like audio quality. Some people don't have an ear for a good speaker and can really only tell that its a good speaker when hearing them right after another compared to a bad one. Also, the difference usually has to be a lot for them to pick it up.

Same with high quality screens. If you dont have an eye for it, then it follows the same ole saying that ignorance is bliss. 95% of the population could care less about a TN panel vs IPS panel because they dont know the difference (and most likely never heard of either terms).

So when a manufacture has to make a cost/benefit analysis between two panels, if he can get good enough colors out of a cheaper TN panel, then he will do so.

The reason why Razer can put such an expensive panel into their 2k+ machines is because the demographics that are purchasing them are well aware of the benefits of having a premium panel.

For me personally, I think I fall into the trained eye category, but by no means a screen guru. I spent $700 more on my TV because the colors and warmth of the plasma I wanted was worth the extra money to me. I have a 2560x1440 ips monitor that still blows me away because of the colors. So when it comes time for me to buy a laptop that will run between $1500-2000, then i'm going to make sure I get an high quality ips or equivalent screen because that is what I value. That is why I have a $300 pair of headphones and a $400 ips monitor.

Also, the gs60/gs70 from MSI have kepler, but are thin and light.

 

EDIT

The Blade pro has maxwell while the blade 14 has kepler.

http://www.razerzone.com/press/deta...aphics-and-new-integrated-switchblade-ui-apps

 

The problem is when you pay around $2,000 for a laptop it better have the best specs. And I completely understand and accept the rationale for getting IPS at this price-point. This is not a budget laptop. So if Lenovo decided to go cheap on the screen, and the 4K screen being the biggest reason I am waiting for this, I'd say that is a rather dumb move.

Let's see what happens before jumping into conclusions though. One thing I am completely sure about is that if it ships with a 6 bit screen I will not buy it. Just wish I knew now for sure so I can just buy the Toshiba if this is in fact slated to ship with a compromised display.

 

Yeah, but there are quite a few concerns with heat considering its size. It is an IPS though from what I understand so that's good. I may consider getting the 3k model if I can swing the price but I'm trying to decide if it's worth it.

 

I'm not sure what the SCD in that model number stands for, but the LTN156 part of the model number is the same as a line of Samusung screens. It would be strange for the Y50's 4K screen to have the LTN156 as part of its model number and then have it not be from Samsung's LTN156 line. And it would be strange for Samsung to put a PLS screen in their lineup that's designated by L TN.

Based on those deductions, I'm going to speculate that the Y50's 4K screen will be TN. If so, it will be interesting to see what the reviews say about it. But it certainly seems strange that Lenovo would tout screen resolution as a big selling point of this model, but then hamstring it by not putting in the best screen technology. I can see skimping on the 1080 screen, as there's no guarantee that people buying that model will care. But for someone who is willing to pay the premium for 4K, you can bet that they're going to be much more aware of screen quality, and so it just seems odd to even offer a 4K TN panel.

 

Lenovo should make tiers for this laptop, something like:

1) TN 1080p non touch screen, i7. 8GB RAM, GTX 860M 2GB Maxwell, 1 TB + 8GB SSHD for $999 (or maybe an i5 model for even lower).

2) TN 1080p non touch (or touch if posible) screen, i7, 16 GB RAM, GTX 860M 4GB Maxwell, 1 TB HD + 24-128 GB SSD for $1,299 - $1,399

3) IPS 4k touch screen, i7, 16GB RAM, GTX 860M 4GB Maxwell, 512 SSD for $1599 - $1799

Not sure if those would be the ranges, just random guessing

 

I wasn't aware that was Samsung's line thx

I see your point... Wouldn't be good if they cheap out on the 4k model.. We'll just have to wait for the reviews I suppose ...

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You're going with the Asus N550jk, right? The IPS Touchscreen on it looks phenomenal and makes me want to just go to XOTIC and switch out the 5400 HDD with an SSD and call it a day. I don't consider myself picky but I've always been underwhelmed with TN and wanted to avoid it ever since IPC was integrated into laptops. I just wish there was a better GPU in it.

 

Well I was waiting for the y50 with giddy apprehension. But 4 cell, tn and shy high prices. Blahhh. Kepler 4 gigs? Lenovo have really dropped the ball here. I love my y580 with IPS, so I guess I'll stick with that for now. Or maybe buy an MSI dominator. Lenovo - what are you doing??

 

The gpu is Maxwell, or at least Kepler is not mentioned in the manual posted some pages back so I think it's Maxwell, but yes, 54 Wh is a bit low for a 15" laptop

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Yeah mate, just dissapointed with the specs and the pricing as I was down for buying one of these. If they can get four hours out of a four cell, them why not put an eight cell in there and blow the competetion out of the water? Was expecting so much more...

 

arent you concerned about the crappy speakers of the asus N550JK

 

I honestly think the p34g v2 is the next best option for most people here if the y50 does not work out. IPS screen, 860m maxwell, lightest laptop on the market at 3.6 pounds. Costs 1500 instead of 2000 plus for both the Razer and the gs60

Personally whether or not the y50 has an IPS screen will probably be the deciding factor for me between these 2
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So does more cells or higher Wh mean more battery life in general for laptops?

 

I'm in the same boat except im looking at the GIGABYTE P35G v2-CF2

 

I find laptop speakers in general to be lacking and use headphones for general use whenever possible. I doubt I'd ever use the silly subwoofer that comes with the N550JK but I'd hope to see some detailed reviews covering sound. The only youtube review covering sound says its adequte but not great. I'm certainly waiting to hear more about Y50 but I'm mostly concerned with screen and GPU.

 

P35g v2 is Kepler 860m which totally kills it for me

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Well, yeah - 4whr for four hours... double it and then. I'd guess so. I love lenovo but this y50 sucks, and you know it

 

Thanks for the thread. What have you decided to go with? I'm thinking about getting the gs60, but I'm unsure of what upgrades to get. Is it worth switching to crucial ram? I definitely want to get the ic diamond paste. Also kind of disappointed its not touch screen.

Also, how would the 4gm 860m (maxwell) compare to the video card in the gs60 3k (link below).

http://www.hidevolution.com/msi-gs60-ghost-pro-3k-097-3gb-gtx-870m-15-6-wqhd-2880x1620.html

 

Izgo screen and it's definiteley possible. Tn is a joke and how they can attempt to charge premium prices is beyond a joke. Four cell tn - lmfao

 

Massively dissappionted with this

 

Has anyone pulled the trigger on one yet?

 

Just to clarify - I love my y580 as it's the best laptop I've owned. But this new one is all style and no substance. Sort it out Lenovo!

 

really dude? I mentioned it at least twice

 

Considering the Y580 has a 1080p display, a solid backlit keyboard, respectable (5 hour) battery life and a 660M (which is basically equal to the 755M or R9-270M), it's still a solid laptop by today's standards.

 

I think someone ordered a y40

 

where is Popeye

 

I know it a little late to ask this question, being 209 pages into the thread, but after y500 and y510p how does one come up with the name y50? Does dropping a "0" signify it's smaller and/or has less features than the y500?

These are the same questions I want to ask Microsoft: Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One??? <------- What?

 

Brands give names to products on a very random way sometimes, yes its more logical when you have Galaxy S, S2, S3, S4, S5, etc when you clearly know that S4 is better than S2 for example. But its not the case here,

It goes like: Y580 < Y500 < Y510p < Y50, its just like that, the only thing in common is the Y from Y Series.

 

N550JK is certainly the way I'm leaning at this point. The main thing that's holding me back is I want a Blu-ray/DVD combo drive, and the specs on Asus' website say this is offered, but I can't find any retailers offering that configuration. I do see sites like Xotic PC that will put the BD/Combo drive in for $120, but I can buy one on eBay for $75 and put it in myself if that's what I need to do. I was just hoping to find one configured that way from the factory (assuming the upcharge is less than $75) so I don't have to pay for both the regular DVD drive and then the separate BD/Combo drive and end up with one of them collecting dust somewhere.

I'd also swap out the HDD for an SSD, but that's something I'd do myself even if it were offered that way from the factory, since it's almost always cheaper that way.

I rarely listen to anything through my PC or laptop speakers. I do almost everything through headphones. Plus, the physical size of the laptop makes it virtually impossible to have it produce the full, rich sound that some seem to expect from a laptop. That's what my home theater system is for and if I want to hear that type of sound, I'll use that.

I don't understand why people keep throwing the p34 out there as a viable alternative. For me, the very first item at the top of the list when picking a new laptop is it has to be 15.6". That's the sweet spot that allows a full-size keyboard plus a numpad, and keeps the weight relatively low. The 17" laptops are way too big and heavy. The smaller ones are just too small. So for most people looking at the Y50, I assume they're doing so because that's the size they want. Otherwise, they'd be looking at the Y40 or some other 13"-14" laptop.

It's all about size/space. They could have made the laptop thicker and been able to fit a bigger battery in there. But they apparently did their research and determined that someone who is going to spend $1200+ on a laptop with gaming specs is probably going to be a heavy user of the higher-end capabilities, and those aren't going to work well on battery anyway. So I'm sure they decided that they'd put in a respectable-sized battery while trying to keep the thickness and weight as low as possible, knowing that most users would be using their laptops plugged in anyway.

Laptops are all about trade offs. If it was all about specs and size, desktops are much cheaper and better. But we want portability. We want light. We want thin. We want stylish. We want long battery life. We want great screen resolution. We want excellent graphics performance. We want fast CPUs. Every laptop buyer has to determine which of these factors is most important. For someone who puts battery life closer to the top of the list, then they're going to have to sacrifice some of the other factors in order to achieve that. Bottom line: You don't buy a laptop with high-end gaming specs if you're interested in battery life. Those things just don't go together.

 

Agreed, Gamer laptops are not into the extended battery game, they are meant to be used while plugued in, thats why even the GPU is bad when runing on battery. The 3 hours or something battery is just like a temporal thing while you get to the next plug IMO. I couldnt care less about battery life on my gaming laptop, its like 95% of the time plugued in anyways even when I take it to other places, there is electricity everywhere, lol.

 

so does this have msata slot or ngff? was looking at the p50t and it looks like that one has a msata slot along with a 2.5" slot and optical drive.

 

No it's maxwell from what I've heard from xoticpc.

 

I currently have an N550JK and was considering returning it for a Y50, but based on the responses here I'll probably end up waiting for reviews on it first. One thing I dislike about the N550JK is the touchpad, but I use a mouse so it's not too much trouble (+touchscreen).

If you want a blu-ray player and SSD swapped in, Computer Upgrade King does those services fairly cheap (states $120 for a 250GB SSD, and $55 for blu-ray). I like buying through them rather than Amazon to avoid tax. Unfortunately I was too impatient to wait and ended up buying it through Amazon this time around and had to swap the HDD myself, and ended up paying virtually the same price anyway.

 

i have a contact who's charging $1499 for the $1299 model.
can't blame him because he's got to ship it here to my country and pay for the fckin customs taxes and would willingly shoulder the repairs when something happens with the unit they'll provide me,,
our local lenovo unit/service centre won't even entertain us for warranty cause they're not part of the international warranty...
f*ckin hate it! who knows here of a credible and reliable shop who does international shipping?

 

Nope. The Y50 only has the one 2.5" slot for storage.

Yeah, I've traded a couple emails with them about it. I'm just a little uncomfortable with the fact that they are not an authorized reseller, but instead they purchase the laptops and when they do, the warranty starts running. So if it's been in their inventory for a month when you buy it from them, then a month of your warranty is gone by the time you get it. I'd rather purchase directly from an authorized reseller. I can do the upgrade myself if I need to. I was just hoping that since Asus' specs say they offer the BD/Combo drive, there would be a model available somewhere with that option from the factory.

 

There's a screenshot from gentech PC rep on p35g v2 thread showing its kepler


As to why the p34g is a viable alternative, its because its the only laptop within this price range that has arguably all the "benchpoints" that people seem to want. Incredibly lightweight, IPS screen, 860m maxwell, Dual storage options, dual fans, and importantly, around the 1500 dollar range. Perhaps I just value my graphics card more than others, but not having the 860m Maxwell is a dealbreaker for me. That throws out the p35g v2, and the Asus with the inferior 850m (around 35%) less real performance based on fps. I can live with a 14 inch screen, especially as it's IPS and its compensated with its miniscule 3.6 pound weight.

As far as I'm concerned, the y50 and the p34g v2 offer the most for the money according to mine, and seemingly most people's requirements. Y50 is yet to be determined, however. I would prefer the bigger screen of the y50, but I'll live with a 14 inch and 2 pounds off my back compared to an inferior TN screen, should the y50 have one.

If there's another laptop out there that is 860m Maxwell, IPS screen, under 1 inch thick, under 6 pounds, and costs around 1500-1600, please let me know.

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I've been looking over some laptop options if the y50 doesn't pan out.

Today I was looking at the msi ge60 apache pro-003, it seemed like a really good option but when I looked at some youtube videos of it the screen completely turned me off. To me it looked really dull, faded and just not pleasing at all. It literally made me not want to even consider the laptop.

In comparison I was looking at some videos of the Asus n550jk ds71t and the screen seemed so much more pleasing to the eye. Very crisp, bright with popping colors.

The Asus apparently has a glossy touchscreen IPS panel which I'm guessing is why it looked so much better.

I'm not sure how accurate my impressions were being that they are drawn from watching videos and not a first hand experience.

I guess my question is if anyone has experience with either displays and what their thoughts are on them. Does the Asus display really look significantly better?

When I go to stores and I look at their monitors I always seem to gravitate towards the glossy monitors. I've noticed recently that most of these gaming laptops come with matte screen, is there a reason for that? Is it just me or do glossy displays tend to look better than matte, and if so why does it seem rare to find glossy gaming laptops?

Lastly, and this might have already been done but if you guys wouldn't mind listing some of the gaming laptops available with screens comparable to that of the Asus or better I'd appreciate it.

I'd imagine in the MSI line I'd have to go as high as the MSI GS60 GhostPro-3K glossy to get something that looks as good or better than the Asus screen. Too bad the price is almost double.

Also, I know this has already been said but damn Asus for not giving us the option to buy that laptop with a gtx 860m and preferably in all black.

Thanks for taking the time to read my post. I hope everyone has a good day.

 

Been following this thread for a while and it looks like there is speculation that the 4gb card may be Maxwell (otherwise it is Kelper). If I recall correctly, the 2gb Maxwell is similar to the 4gb Kelper (speed wise)? If so, does that mean that if this is indeed a 4gb 860M Maxwell, that it would be considerably faster then the 2gb Maxwell? How much faster?

 

Ram on graphics cards does nothing past 2 GB unless your hooking it up with multiple monitors

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The current speculation is that it's most likely Maxwell as
1. Lenovo said it on their website
2. since they used maxwell for the 2gb it doesn't make sense to switch chips and vram can be added very easily

more VRAM doesn't affect anything unless you have above 1080P resolution and/or you have multiple displays. you don't need more vram unless you are doing video editing or stuff
the maxwell version of 860m, however, performs about 10% better than the kepler version