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    Y50 Thread

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Jobine, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. ScubaAddict

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    I will be doing video editing on this laptop - though not likely with multiple screens. So the more VRam would be used?
     
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    Yes but you have use a higher end editor that support GPU and VRAM utilization (e.g. Adobe Premiere). You can cache more rendered video faster in VRAM than standard Ram but it is not a night and day experience. If you intend to do a substantial amount of video editing on it more VRAM will but it's a diminishing return and the bulk of work should be done on a desktop if possible.
     
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    Yep, 2GB of VRAM is sufficient for most games and mobile GPUs. Unless you're playing a modded TES game, then you need all the VRAM you can get haha
     
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    Whoa this thread has grown a lot! By the way, has anyone seen reviews yet? It's kinda weird how it doesnt have reviews yet when usually, new notebooks get reviewed right away...
     
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    Yeah, it is weird. It seems like reviewers have to wait to get one like the rest of us instead of being given one early for review purposes. I'm not making a final decision until I read a respected review.
     
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    I'm really hoping to see some reviews soon, the price is right for the y50, $200 cheaper than the GS60 Ghost and $700 less than the razer blade.
     
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    This is the exact thing, I (and probably, many other people) want.
     
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    Non touch version of the base model is out. $1149 or $1099 with student discount.
    It's exactly the person above me wants but $150 more
     
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    Thanks for the info! Now, I'll just have to wait for reviews before making any decision.
     
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    Does anyone know when the Y50 will be released in europe(germany)? At the moment, it is not even listed on the german Lenovo homepage.
     
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    Damn I wish there were reviews out already :-( there has been too much wait for this laptop....

    Sent from my LT25i using Tapatalk
     
  12. Fatbot

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    So am I correct in saying that this model is the closest to Asus N550JK except it has a higher end GPU and a slightly better HDD but it's missing an Optical, IPS, and Touchscreen?

    I'd love some opinions on why this model would be preferable to the Asus.
     
  13. bva91

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    If the keyboard is anything like the thinkpad keyboards .... It's amazing...

    It's subjective... But I think y50 looks amazing and I didn't like the design of the
    N550jk as much....g550jk on the other hand looks nice..

    And the whole screen quality difference in my opinion isn't gonna matter as much as discussed in the thread... coz a good quality tn panel is good for everyday purposes ... The viewing angles tested in most reviews are too extreme and practically you'll never come across such a situation... . Last years tn panel was great.. If this year's is anything like it.. The y50 is a winner for me...

    Optical drives are used much lesser these days... And there are USB ones available for emergencies.. So atleast for me it's not a huge trade off..

    The y510p speakers were received really well last year...

    The asus costs $1060 on newegg($90) diffetence... So the price difference is $90.. Would be lesser when
    Newegg and Amazon carry y50. .

    I prefer the better gpu, design and
    Speakers over that of asus..... And there have been problems with asus's trackpad and speaker quality... And over tightening leading to trackpad not aligning properly.... Not that the y50 is gonna be perfect... But I'd wait for the reviews before deciding... :)


    Sent from my LT25i using Tapatalk
     
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    Agreed. Let's wait for reviews first before jumping to conclusions now that we have both of the base models to compare. I have a bad feeling that the lenovo will get toasty.
     
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    nooooo dont say that :( im really hoping the dual fans and the 860m are gonna help keeping the temps low :(
     
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    Hi guys. I just want to know your opinion on this.
    I am actually leaning toward the msi ge60 apache pro over the lenovo y50. But I still can't decide.

    MSI GE60 Apache Pro
    Price - we all know msi is much cheaper although not in a big margin
    Additional storage - msi has 2 mSata slots (cause I still need the 1 TB HDD)
    Optical drive - I know this is not a plus for others but it is for me ( I don't like the external one)
    Keyboard - The steel series looks awesome
    Looks - this is subjective but I think MSI looks just fine (for me).

    Lenovo Y50
    Form Factor - Better because its thinner.
    Cooling - I really don't know if it has a better cooling (I'm just assuming) since it has 2 vents.
    Keyboard light - Its brighter compare to the MSI


    I know some of you guys are waiting for the y50 because of its 4K screen but its not a big thing for me. So as the TN vs IPS. I just want to know if the y50's higher price is justifiable even it lacks optical drive and additional storage. I am also open for your opinions for other options and other things to consider.

    Thank You
     
  17. Banender

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    Hey guys this was posted on page 133 of the thread but just for those who didn't read all posts and no one can blame you an image of the internals of the y50 was posted

    http://news.laptop.bg/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Lenovo-Y50-70-2.jpg

    if you zoom in on the wireless card you can make out that it's AC 7260

    Untitled.jpg

    So if you pre-order your y50 now you might be getting the AC 3160 version instead of this one which may debut in the second wave
     
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    Are you sure it's internals of Y50? Why it says "sample by sony corporation"?
     
  19. Fatbot

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    Well, I like some subjective things about MSI laptops, like the steel engine for the keyboard and the look of the overall machine, but it's straight outta 2005 as far as bulk and look, too.

    I only like the idea of an optical because I could pull it and put something in its place. The Ge60 looks like a conservative option if you don't like Asus, or particularly the N550JK.

    I get the feeling that there's a premium and performance sacrifice for making these new thin and light gaming laptops as well which makes things like the GE60 (and the N550JK) look like more practical options. I think this thread covers it well but the only remaining question for me are what are the overall benefits of Maxwell vs. Kepler. Heat, battery, and overall speed could be measurably better in the Y50 but reviews for those aspects need to come out for everyone to get a better idea.
     
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    So is the Y50 with 4k screen confirmed to have the 860m in it? I don't understand how games are supposed to be even remotely playable with this config.
     
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    So who else is spamming Lenovo online chat asking for information about the 4K display? I do a few of these chat sessions each day... :) FWIW the rep confirmed the 4K model will have IPS...

    Lenovo Y50 Laptop | 15.6" High-Performance Gaming Notebook PC | Lenovo (US)

    ^Mohd Ayaz: Thank you for contacting Lenovo Sales Chat. My name is Ayaz and my Rep ID is 2900713388. Happy to help you today.


    ^Mohd Ayaz: Hello Stephen


    Stephen: I want to purchase the Y50 with the 4K display. Can you help me with that?


    ^Mohd Ayaz: I will check if we have it available now.


    ^Mohd Ayaz: I appreciate your time and patience.


    ^Mohd Ayaz: I have checked. We expect to have the 4k model for purchase but currently the date of release is not out yet.


    Stephen: That's too bad because the Toshiba P50T is already available with a 4K display so I think I'm just going to buy that instead. Could you pass along a message to at least offer a pre order option for the Y50 with the 4K display?


    ^Mohd Ayaz: I will take it as a feedback and report to the concerned department.


    Stephen: Thanks. Could you at least tell me if the 4K display of the Y50 will be IPS or TN?


    ^Mohd Ayaz: We do not have IPS on this model yet.


    ^Mohd Ayaz: Is there anything else that I may assist you with Lenovo products today?


    Stephen: When the 4K display comes out is that expected to be IPS?


    ^Mohd Ayaz: We do expect IPS on 4k model.
     
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    omg im so excited never been so freaking excited about a laptop before
     
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    This proves nothing. When i was on chat with them, they told me it will be TN. So you still know the same as before :).
     
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    WEB_SRFR
    Could you please ask them next time when Y50 is expected to arrive to Europe? ;)

    EDIT:
    Ehh I have just chatted with the same guy. Couldn't find that chat option on their website earlier. Unfortunately he has no clue about European market, so I have emailed Lenovo Denmark already.
     
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    O man that base model for $1099 with the student discount just made me jump ship to the y50. I was considering the Asus n550jk but now the y50 is sorta in the price range people expected. Hoping the temps are going to be great and can't wait for official reviews to come in!
     
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    I'm still surprised to this day that there's still people who cares about the speakers on a laptop or a mobile phone.
     
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    I know this was before the 860m was in the wild but it can easily beat the pants off the 755m SLI with a small OC.
     
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    Why? I watch movies/TV shows on my laptop and tablet frequently with my fiancee. I'm not going to sit there at home alone with her and have both of us watch while listening on headphones.

    Are you suggesting we just remove the speakers altogether? Apparently you never use them if you don't care at all about the quality.
     
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    860m is the sweet spot this year for Nvidia. It overclocks to nearly 780m performance (within 10%) and does it cold and safely.
     
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    i don't have good external speakers and even if i did when i'm not at home and want to watch something with someone it would suck to have bad quality sound
     
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    Still, there is no reason for them to be horrible.
     
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    What seems to be the general consensus on this laptop? Is it better than the Y510p? I needed help on choosing which one of the two to get.
     
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    I would go for the Y50 or at least wait for more models of it to come. To me, its better in everyway. I don't prefer SLI anymore because some games don't have support for it. The size is decreased as well and it has the latest Maxwell architecture for the GPU.
     
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    Concerning the non SSD models. Can anyone speak to the SSHD that is 5400rpm with an 8gb cache? Is this acceptable or will it turn the whole machine into a slow piece of junk?
     
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    After having switched to SSD as my main drive for my operating system and games I could NEVER go back to a normal HD. It literally felt like the biggest upgrade I have ever done to any of my machines including when I had a 10,000 RPM raptor drive.

    Personally I'd probably buy the base model and then throw in a 128gb or 256gb SSD in it for around $80-$200. If you need extra storage later on you can always use an external HD.

    I believe with an SSD you would get a cold boot up time with windows of about 10 seconds give or take. With that 5400 RPM HD I'm guessing it would be in the neighborhood of 40 seconds. This is just my speculation.
     
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    as far as I know SSD is way better

    SSHD with 8gb cache only places most frequently used files in the 8gb and that's it. Slightly better than HDD but not comparable with SSD
     
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    There's an XOTIC PC Review of the Asus N550JK that has a cold boot of 30 seconds, which is substantially longer than most SSD boot times (on average 15 seconds or less). SSD are all around snappier and quicker in almost all types of data access afaik.
     
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    In response to the battery capacity. The Y580 requires being plugged in to enable the gtx card to work - when on battery alone it's hd4000 all the way. I'm not sure if the 500/510 works in the same fashion but I'd guess it does. However I also do other work with my laptop, and being resticted to what is realistically gonna be 3 hours away from the mains is a major bugbear in my humble opinion, and a major oversight in Lenovo r&d. I've got a netbook with a larger battery!!
     
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    Your netbook probably doesn't have a full-wattage quad-core i7 processor and a 15.6" screen. Both of those things suck up the power and it's why the battery life on these laptops with gamer specs isn't great. If battery life of 4-5+ hours is important to you, you'll need to look at laptops with low-power CPUs and smaller screens.
     
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    I just think that the pricing of this laptop should really accommodate a decent size battery - if you look at Alienware or Msi they all have 8 or 9 cell batteries. I see no reason for the Y50 to skimp with a four cell when the pricing is comparable at least with Msi.
     
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    How thick are the Alienware and MSI laptops you're talking about? The Y50 is trying to capitalize on the new interest in thin and light laptops, while still trying to offer gamer-quality hardware. In order to try and sit on both sides of that fence, they had to make the laptop thinner and thus didn't have room for a bigger battery. If you're not interested in how thin the Y50 is and would rather have a bigger battery, there are plenty of bulky gamer laptops out there. But if you want thin, you have to accept compromise somewhere else.
     
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    If you look at the model from the side, you'll see that the front is significantly thinner than the black which makes this laptop look thin. On the other hand, the battery is also placed on the front and there isn't much room for it
     
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    This is a 4 cell 54wh
    GS60 uses a 6 cell 52wh
     
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    I think I might irk the nerves of some people in this thread, but I think it's without a doubt that lenovo has made the ultimate affordable gamer machine. It's thin,powerful, and attractive at a reasonable pricepoint. 1150 for the base is an awesome pricepoint, competing with some clevos and msi ge series models. The panel is a negative fosho, but only other competition option is the p34(+200) and the asus(850m). Sure the y50 isn't a box of tissues, but it's a damn good deal.
     
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    A lot of people have expressed concern with the screen. I found a video where the 1080p model's screen is adequately presented. You can hear him state that the model is 1080p touch. I assume the non-touch should look even better in highly lit environments due to its glare resistance.
    Lenovo Y50 Gaming Laptop (Geforce GTX 8X0M) @ CES 2014 - YouTube
    You can see that the brightness/color is not perfectly consistent at some angles, but you can also clearly see that it's still a ing beautiful screen (pardon my French). I'm pumped to order the $1,450 configuration, I just hope they keep the discount on it for a couple more months at least.
     
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    The bigger problem is that people don't understand the comparative of advantage of y50. sure this model isn't as economical as the y510p yet, but compared to everything on the current market it's still a bang for the buck. people just have to accept that better specs means more $$.
     
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    Right. The y510p was an exceptional value. People get angry because the y50 is an excellent value.
    The only players that can shake up the market now is HP and acer. All of the other manufacturers have already played theor cards.Hp will probably incorporate the 850m on higher tier envy's while acer will most likely refresh the old as dirt v3s. A 15" from acer with an 860m would be nice....
     
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    Caught in between buying a 510p sli in Canada for $950 CAD or wait for the y50.

    Will I have to purchase a 4gb vram model of y50 to get close to the performance of a 510p sli? Or would 2gb be close enough?

    $950 still is very good value for a 510p Sli but I did cancel my order today to wait and see a bit, not sure if I did the right thing but oh well.

    On top of all that, we don't even know how about the discounted prices in a few months.
     
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