Y50 Thread

That blows. Hope they make those colored lids available.

 

I get the feeling that you work in the research field- that's pretty impressive, the stuff you dug out. They probably ditched the idea of the Y70 because it seems to me that thinner, lighter, and more portable is more "in" and bigger is "out." It might have done pretty well saleswise though.

 

How did you get memorial day weekend savings?

 

tbh, i thought the orange ones are ugly. maybe if they added red or blue or green

what research field...? they ditched the idea probably because of motherboard/screen designs. since they have a z70 planned already a y70 wouldn't kill the idea of light and portability. lenovo probably had problems with designing a reasonable motherboard, since the y50 motherboard is everything except ssd slots. if they only added that to the y70 it doesn't seem like much of an upgrade with the added weight/size. most likely they probably can't figure out a way to add extra features without screwing up the heat or the spacing. on the other hand, there's no 4k screen in 17.3" so far which makes it look inferior to y50

 

That is false. Kepler 860m can be soldered. The gs60 ghost with 860m is a soldered Kepler 860m.

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The research comment was a compliment, haha. 17.3" laptops can be inferior to 15.6" laptops as long as there is a market out there who wants one. The new Z series isn't marketed as being a lot more portable than the previous generation, unlike the Y series. I guess they could have made a portable 17.3" though.

I have read every single post in this thread since the very first one, all the way back on day one. First of all, Kepler 4GB version can be soldered. It doesn't "come" as anything. It's up to the OEM to design its placement on the motherboard, amount of VRAM in the laptop, etc.

 

Do we know what version is the HDMI-Out on the Y50?
Still v1.4 or the latest v2.0?

edit: according to user manual is v1.4

 

User manual? Did you get yours already?

 

it's on the internet.

http://download.lenovo.com/consumer...0-80_y50-70 touch_y50-80 touch_ug_english.pdf

and here the hardware maintenance manual http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/lenovo_y40_50_series_hmm.pdf

 

Yeah I saw the maintenance guide, I guess I was just never looking for HDMI. Thanks

 

As H01D3N said above, I found it on the Lenovo's Support website.
Personally I am in the market for the 4K 15.6 laptop, so I am waiting for the 4K version of the Y50 to see the final specs on the 4K display and its price, however the lack of DisplayPort and HDMI v1.4 means no 4K@60Hz output and this is a huge letdown right now for me.

 

To those who have ordered off amazon, was it from the Klick Online vendor?
Did it stay true to the shipped within 6-10 days?
How does someone have them if it seems there aren't really any people with the y50s yet?
Btw im interested in the base model
Basically is it risky to order from amazon through a third party?

 

For US purchasers, how long did it take to manufacture? I ordered mine today and it's already sent to manufacturing. Estimated delivery is 6/24/14 which I hope is not the case :< (Est. Ship date 6/18/24)

 

Sounds about right. They seem to be really backed up.

 

Personally, I would get the base model from Lenovo and fake the student discount. It's the same price, plus you know that you are getting Lenovo's warranty. Klick Online is probably some vendor who ordered 20 of them the day they came out and is selling them off now, that's why the shipping dates are lower. I wouldn't call it risky, you would just be better off buying for the same price from Lenovo IMO.

 

Okay thanks , how do i get the student discount and it should be legit because its going to be for college?

 

I may well be wrong , if i am sorry for the wrong info , but can you guys check this out : http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...74-new-details-about-nvidia-s-maxwell-33.html

 

I talked to the rep and they said lenovo's warranty still applies if we were to buy this

Can anyone confirm who knows lenovo's warranty system? I need to buy through amazon because I have credit through them.

There is also no tax if you buy on amazon through klick.. Another plus.

 

That's actually interesting (the info on the other thread). You might be right, but we won't totally know until someone gets theirs.

 

Ok well I want to ask.. If I buy through klick on Amazon and cancel my Lenovo order.. I won't pay tax which is a huge plus.. Also is it for certain I'll get me item shipped sooner? I'm on the hill to having mine shipped June 11th which sucks!! I actually ordered the base model earlier but cancelled for the optical drive version.. That was going to ship June 1st.. But hell, I trust vendors through Amazon more than anything else..

 

Interesting... use no sales tax to get 1-night shipping

From my experience, it depends on the vendor. I would personally just fork over the $50 sales tax and get free shipping plus the guaranteed warranty.

 

Yeah but I want my unit before mid June.. Lol..

 

If anyone hasn't ordered yet, the only models which are backed up into June and July are the ones with the 4710HQ processor. If you look at the different models, if you order the ones with the 4700HQ you will probably get it late May or early June.

 

I mean there's a guy that posted a few hundred pages ago about y50 sales and he's from slick online, maybe try to msg him? I think his id is Eryeal.

 

Yeah the optical version only had the 4710HQ.. But I think I might say "screw it" and get the base model without the optical drive.. Hell that version might be bulkier anyways.. And maybe I should go after the 2 GB Vram version because we are sure that is a Maxwell 860m right?

 

we are sure the 4gb version is maxwell too. I just don't understand why people are bringing things up again when it was over quite a while ago. no one likes the 4gb version because it doesn't really benefit you that much on FHD so why spend the money?

 

That was exactly my thought process. I went for the base model direct from Lenovo because the processors are essentially the same and you will get it in 2 weeks max probably.

No we aren't sure. It doesn't benefit much but it might be Kepler anyway, especially considering that most sites don't have the 4GB 860M listed as Maxwell - they either don't list it at all or they call it a Kepler refresh.

This page.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/741832-y50-thread-224.html#post9650691
He was talking about a "heck of a deal on the Y50's." I don't know if he is still around, but I might pm him like you said.

 

uh what are you talking about? lenovo listed on their website as maxwell. the p34g v2 uses a 4gb maxwelll and you see it here
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gigabyte/747756-new-gigabyte-p34-v2-2.html

so if that doesn't convince you, I really don't know how to explain it
adding vram is easy, OEMs can do and have done it before

he's around and his email is [email protected]. in fact, it's funny b/c I just got an email from him about their stock

 

If this was any other company I would believe their page straight away.

The thing with Lenovo is that they are notorious for misinformation/confusion. When it says Maxwell on their page it can mean 1 of 3 things:
1. ONLY 860M 2GB is Maxwell
2. ONLY 860m 4GB is Maxwell
3. Both are Maxwell

Using common sense the two most likely outcomes are 1 and 3, but no one knows yet. Yes there are 4GB Maxwell 860M cards, but they are so few and so rare compared to 4GB Kepler refresh cards.

It all comes down to trust issues really (of which there are plenty).

 

so you are saying it makes more sense to switch chips just for different amounts of vram while it is so much easier to just add vram yourself? you do know that the majority of the kepler cards with 4gb vram is the mxm version right? to make the soldered version have 4gb of vram you are doing the exact same thing you'll do to make the maxwell cards have 4gb too - solder more vram]

using common sense, what makes you think a manufacturer will order two sets of chips just to get different vrams when they can do with just one set?

 

Hey, I want it to be Maxwell too.

All I'm saying is that right now its just speculation, and it can go one way or the other.

PRICE

Aren't the Kepler chips cheaper? Thus it would make sense for Lenovo to order some Maxwell so that they can claim on their website that its Maxwell, and have the rest be Kepler.

 

That would be a joke considering one of the main draws of the Y50 is the Maxwell GPU they are promoting.. So if one decides to purchase a slightly more expensive model, they will get an inferior GPU in the process.. That would be BS..

 

Yes it would be BS.

Doesn't mean that Lenovo won't do it to keep costs down. After all, they are a budget company (look at the Y510p).

EDIT:
Look at the other laptops with this GPU, the P34g v2 for example. They all cost MUCH more than this laptop (I know that the web price is 1,799, but thats just a marketing strategy with discounts 99% of the time). Lenovo must have cut some corners, and (heaven forbid) it might be on the GPU.

 

I don't see any reason to speculate when both their website and emails are claiming that it's maxwell and I have mentioned various illogical things for using kepler.

kepler chips may or may not be cheaper, even if they are, the bigger problem is that kepler chips don't have enough supply to cover large companies like lenovo's needs. my boy huang surely just wants to get rid of his kepler stocks as quickly as possible so what makes you think they'll have enough supply of kepler chips?

on a side note, the kepler chip is gk104, the highest tier in kepler only second to titan's gk110, while maxwell card uses gm107, the lowest tier in maxwell sets, so Idk how you got the thinking that kepler is cheaper

 

Kepler is cheaper because nVidia is trying to get rid of stocks, so they are selling it cheaper and in mass quantities.

 

It says 3-4 weeks and I got it in order. However, it's sunday and memorial day monday. I will see on Tuesday what it really is.

 

that still wouldn't make lenovo want to use kepler because having two kinds of chips for one model is
1. inefficient and causes much more confusion
2. impractical because now you have to wait on two supply stocks instead of one

I still don't understand why you guys are questioning this. Do you want the 4gb to be kepler? if not, then why are you trying to justify, poorly, in every way that lenovo will use the kepler chip?
we have seen cases of 4gb maxwell already. more importantly, it's very clear that lenovo lists out the gpu as maxwell both on their website and in their emails.

if lenovo wants to cut down cost it would be in screens and chassis materials and stuff. it wouldn't be the cpu or the gpu

 

What can I say? To me the glass is half empty.

But in all honesty I really want the 4GB card to be Maxwell (I'm going to mod the crap out of MineCraft ). Im just giving reasons to prove that there is not a 100% chance of it being Maxwell.

I guess the only way this argument can be settled is by having someone who ordered it check.

 

If the 4gb is not maxwell then buying the 2gb maxwell card is a no brainer with a cheaper price, glad I didn't order yet, a week or two more of waiting is nothing especially considering how bad lenovo can be with returns and restocking fees.

 

Your reasons are very valid and I, for one, respect the facts that you bring up; don't let some guy throwing around useless half - knowledgeable technical info influence your decision on it. I totally agree about wanting it to be Maxwell, and there are actually more reasons to speculate why it would be Kepler rather than Maxwell, especially from a cost standpoint. I personally wasn't going to risk having it be Kepler, so I got the base model. It fit my needs and my budget.

 

Some Bulgarian review (test unit) previously already showed that it has a 4gb MAXWELL. Are you guys expecting Lenovo to put a Kepler chip in official units when they already put a Maxwell chip in test unit? I'm not.

 

This is exactly what I am thinking right now.

 

Hey guys, I impulsively bought an Asus G750JM today and I just opened it up. I like it, but I have this thought that I should have just bought the Lenovo Y50 due to it having more RAM and a SSHD for $150 more. It's smaller, but I think that's it.

Anyway, I hope you guys can give me some non-bias advice. Should I return the Asus to BestBuy and get the Lenovo or just keep the Asus? What do you guys recommend?

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/y-series/y50-touch/?sb=:000001C9:000120E2: <-- is the one I'm considering

and here's what I bought

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-17...lack/2990031.p?id=1219085427884&skuId=2990031

Should I perhaps get the non-touchscreen one and save even more?

 

Can I please have the link from where you got this information, I want to check it out.

More evidence pointing towards it being Maxwell YAY

 

I assume you mean this one
Лаптоп.БГ – Новини и ревюта за лаптопи – Ревю на Lenovo Y50 – наследникът на една геймърска легенда

unfortunately this one has the 2gb one. you are probably looking at the RAM which is 4gb instead of vram

 

I would like this laptop if it was $250 cheaper and was offered in lighter/thinner 15" version =)

 

So you would recommend the Lenovo?

 

Hey, so I see you took my advice.

Lets compare them step-by-step

CPU - Y50 is the same (that +10 wont really make a difference)

GPU - Lenovo is only better if you are going to heavily mod (because of the extra 2GB VRAM)

Memory - You will hardly need to go over 6GB of RAM so even 8 is enough. However, having 16gb is good future proofing so I would say Y50 is better

Hard drive - The extra 8gb cache on the Y50 will make a noticeable difference for your most commonly opened applications so Y50 is better

Price - Asus is cheaper

Portability/Weight - The Asus will have much bigger fans so gaming will be better. You will also have more screen estate but it is much more bulkier (9.9 lbs and 2 inches thick vs 5.7 lbs and ~1 inch thick)

Conclusion: These two laptops are in different categories from each other. The Asus is being marketed as a much more hardcore gaming machine while the Lenovo is also taking portability into consideration. The performance should be on par, however one should wait till professional reviews come out for the Y50 because there can be other problems (Drivers, bios etc.).

So it really matters what type of laptop you want. A portable laptop with serious gaming capabilities at the cost of cooling/expandability or a desktop replacement at the cost of portability.

 

Very detailed and appreciated.

Only thing though is I'd hardly call it a desktop replacement.

I guess by definition you are correct but even my 2ish year old mid/high range built computer will crap on these laptops performance.

 

You must return that giant Asus . You are getting same config In a compact package with y50 and cheaper price .
And about touch I'd say , it comes down to your personal preference . I don't think there is any need of touch on a Laptop .
I was having a dell Inspiron touch and I rarely used it's touch . Touch on a vertical device makes our hand uncomfortable , it's is just feels good few minutes and afterwards you'll come back to touch pad and keyboard.