Y50 Thread

I would trust Klick right now over anything lenovo now.
If you live close to MD, you're even more in luck. Their shipping dates are bound to be faster than lenovos.

 

They have 4 on ebay and 19 on amazon, and may have more stock in the back (though they did say yesterday(?) they were running low, which is why price upped slightly from earlier). I bought mine yesterday on ebay and including mine about 5 units sold in 24 hours but only 6 have sold altogether. At a guess I'd say you have a good few days at least to get one, so you should be fine.

The shipping dates from lenovo to america for all models are longer than the shipping date I got from Klick to get it over to the UK (about twice as long to boot), so it would be way quicker.

Maybe lenovo sold all their laptops to Klick and had none left to sell to the rest of us ? They must have lost quite a bit of money from this shakey start.

 

Man, would someone take half an hour out of their lives and post a video review already or something? Doesn't even take that long, even phone cameras are decent these days.

 

I just ordered from Klick on eBay. Won't be getting it for a few weeks as I'm having a friend bring it down from Canada to the Caribbean where I go to school.

 

Oh nooo, only 4 left in ebay! I'm still anxious about the LCD quality of the Y50, since I'm used to a 95% NTSC gamut screen..

 

They're about to lose my business as well

I've initiated a request to Klick to get more info on the touch version. At this point, I'm comfortable adding the RAM and SSD myself. Ideally, I'd shoot for 4GB VRAM even though I know that folks keep talking about it being unnecessary (frankly, I don't care ).

I get it though, Lenovo sold it to Klick so they're still getting some profit, but think about the profit margin they're losing with the mass exodus going on. They're selling to resellers at a bulk rate to allow the reseller the mark-up value instead of recouping the total margin cost by direct sales to customers.

Sad really. Now, maybe Lenovo is taking a look at these pages, but maybe their not. Ultimately, they're risking their brand reputation by these shenanigans. Had I not been religiously reviewing these pages, I would have not known to check my order status to see that they bumped up the shipping date out by a couple weeks. No notice or nothing.

Honestly, I may as well start considering the N550JK again the rate we're going!

Sorry to all you loyal Notebook Reviewers. I don't mean to sound so negative. Just really frustrated right now.

 

Do you have a budget? No reason purchasing this since you will certain have a huge downgrade in screen quality from your previous laptop.. Maybe order a Sager or a decent MSi laptop.. Or get the Asus models mentioned in this thread.. I would have gotten one if I could have found a decently priced one with a GTX 860m..

 

I should have just ordered from Klick in the first place, it would have been almost here already. Also everybody stop ordering from Klick so there is one left for me. I see now on Amazon it shows how many are left, I would like for it to hold out until Saturday, do you think that's viable? My bro-in-law is supposed to have the hook-ups with dell he just told and is going to see if he can get something equivalent for cheaper. I know he has a precision workstation machine as he owns a drafting company. I dont want a big bulky think like that because im going to be carrying this arround college. And i dont think ill need a workstation graphics card as an engineering student because i think CAD works just fine with the "gaming" ones. What do you guys think?

 

It went down to two left on ebay yesterday before I ordered and then bounced back up to four - don't assume that's their entire stock. If it goes down to one and it's working hours for them be concerned, if not it could go either way, no need to rush just yet. Also it's unlikely the y50 screen will compare if your current really is high end - the screen is average as why would they put a fancy one on it when they want to sell expensive 4ks on the basis of a big screen improvement? I remember reading that lenovo plans on unveiling the 4ks around July though - it could be a long wait till then. Is it possible to look at a friends laptop screen or look around at display models to get a decent idea of a normal laptop screen?

RAULGALARZA75: Hell if I had the money to spare like that I'd be getting 4gb etc too. Saying the 4gb is unnecessary doesn't mean it's worthless, just that for most people it isn't worth holding out for/spending more on it than they wanted to. But less isn't more and big numbers make me happy. And yeah, they've totally lost the markup but still had to pay for all the reps and emails and orders and manufacturing etc we've got them to do before jumping ship. I hope they live and learn that even without reviews all over the place that people will find an awesome laptop haha.

HADL5184: Saturday as in tomorrow, right? I would say so, they seem to have over 20 left and I'm pretty sure this thread is breeding most of their clients - people who haven't stumbled across this or the amazon listing would still make up a majority and still be ordering from lenovo. You can keep your eye on it or maybe email to confirm total stock (and maybe ask for a 3 units left warning...?) but I wouldn't be too stressed until it gets into lower figures. As for Dell I'm pretty sure my current laptops successor, the Dell XPS 15 is the comparable one out of their range, but I think it's around $2k? It's definitely a good chunk more.

 

Stupid question.. This will have a USB 3.0 right? I have a capture device that uses it and I may stream some games from my consoles.. I have a good desktop also but I try not to use it as much during the summer when it's humid.. Michigan gets surprisingly hot in the summer..

 

2 x USB 3.0, 1 x USB 2.0

 

If you really want the 95% gamut screen, just wait for xoticpc to carry it. Just know that you will pay a lot more for that as well as a higher starting price. What do you do that requires that anyway? If it isn't really necessary, I wouldn't go for it. I haven't seen the Y50 in person (obviously) but I have seen the Y510p screen in person. I can tell you that it is actually really good, especially on a matte screen which tends to have less accurate color reproduction. If you do graphic design, I would tell you to just get a good monitor that you can use for your work and stuff. The decision is yours, though, so it really comes down to how much you need that screen.

 

I'm not really a graphic designer or anything, it's just that im anxious on how bad will a normal screen compared to being used to using a 95% gamut screen in years whats the normal gamut of usual laptops? is it like 10%? 30%? 50%? I wish someone can upload a full hd video of the Y50 screen..

 

*cough* Timothyz *cough*

 

Typical? I think you would be looking at somewhere between 50% and 70%. High color gamut isn't very applicable to gaming, so you would have better luck with Acer or Lenovo as opposed to MSI or Gigabyte. If you don't plan on doing photography or graphic design, I would get out of the high color gamut thing sooner rather than later, as it seems to be a downward trend. I see your point though, and I do think that the other person's advice (Was it Metazoick? Maybe.) was good- you should go to a local Best Buy or something and look at some regular screens. If you don't have a budget, the 4K Y50 that should come out in July might be a good fit for you - Samsung PLS/IPS panel, 4K color benefits, (hopefully) matte. Good luck on your decision though!

 

As far as raw numbers go, here is the color gamut for the y510p:

Lenovo Y510p Review (SLI, I5): Still the fastest gaming laptop under $1000

That said, as others have noted there's no substitute for going to the store & looking at the screens yourself. For other people worried about it, high color gamut doesn't have a large impact on gaming and the Y50 screen should be more than suitable for non-graphic design/photography work.

 

In Canada I got the base model for $1050 CDN using EPP site.

That's about $950 US. I don't think klick can beat that, not sure if they ship to canada either.

Hey daryldeal, do you know anyone who has an lcd monitor with 95% colour gamut. After reading this whole thread I'm really interested in people that have 95% colour gamuts, :thumbsup:

j/k - but I think you mentioned this fact on every page, the last 20 or so, at least 1-2 times per page.

 

EPP site? (extra sentence because it needs to be 10 characters)

EDIT
Do you mean employee purchase program? If so, that's understandable.

Good find on this. 64% NTSC, 68% adobeRGB, 91% sRGB is a bit higher than average, now I'm pretty curious how much better it is on the Y50.

 

I don't think most of us have access to EPP pricing. As far as Klick is concerned, though, they don't charge sales tax (unless you're in MD). So depending on your state, $1050 CDN -> $970 USD -> $1030 - $1050 USD post sales tax, which is equivalent to Klick.

Glad you got a good deal for your country though!

 

I've never seen a package undergo so many clearances and holdups. Shipped 5/24 now in Louisville, KY.... http://i.imgur.com/yR6xOKF.png

 

I see.. so the normal lcd is 64% NTSC gamut.. looks like its not to far off to 95% or is it?

 

That's SOP when coming from China.

Sturtevant, WI, United States 06/02/2011 10:06 A.M. Delivered
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China 05/27/2011 4:54 A.M. Order Processed: Ready for UPS

7 Day Shipping, after the manufacturing.

 

For someone who works in the professional space, it can make a world of difference since color accuracy affects their work.

For the standard user, however, a 95% gamut screen can actually look overly saturated (especially once it is calibrated; ICC profiles (the results of your calibration) are not generally loaded by games, which gives colors in full-screen games higher red highlights than normal and less accurate colors, unless you use a workaround for each game individually, eg borderless windowed mode). This is due to most games reverting color profiles when placed in full-screen mode. I believe 95% color gamuts also tend to be a little less bright (~10% or so), but I'm not positive on that.

Personally, I suggest using a normal screen on a laptop that will be primarily for gaming and then a larger, separate high-gamut screen for professional work. If you're not a graphic designer, Lenovo is known for screens that are quite bright and the y510p had one that was very good, as far as TN goes.

That said, if you can't stand the normal gamut screen at Best Buy or somewhere similar when you go to look, your other option is waiting for the 4K PLS screen. I know not all of that is horribly helpful, but unless you really just go and look at them, it's hard to explain the difference. I suspect the difference between IPS & TN will make more a difference to you than the color gamut; if you're fine with a TN panel, you'll probably be okay with the Y50's color gamut.

 

Ever heard of interdiction?

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And before anyone says something inane like "TINFOIL HAT," there has been further coverage on this recently, including a documentary with video footage of them doing this in action.

 

I want to start by saying I have zero experience in the photography/video editing world so this will all be my opinion /personal experience/manufacturer numbers. Please correct me if I missed something.

I have the Alienware OptX AW2210 **TN** and that reportedly has 83% sRGB (cant find Adobe figures), and I find the colors on it to be quite good, but when put next to my Ezio Forris FS2333 **IPS** which is pushing 99%sRGB & 77% Adobe RGB, the difference is astounding to say the least (more on this in a bit).

Now that I'm probably worrying some people a great deal, let me explain a few things. First off, the Alienware has a very strong anti-glare coating which subdues the colors. This does lower the "perceived" colors, maybe they are still accurate, but not as saturated, which I find saturation to make colors "pop" so to speak. I mention this because the Y50 might have a great panel, but it might be subdued by a super aggressive anti glare film (speculation).

So what am I getting at? Basically, if you have never used a GOOD IPS panel for an extended period of time, you probably wont notice the lowered colors of a TN panel (don't know what the Y50 is getting for sRGB, hopefully its good), and the Y50 screen will be plenty fine for gaming/normal windows use. I'm assuming they wouldn't use a crap TN for a gaming/multimedia laptop as that seems very counter productive IMO.

As for not to far off, I feel being even 15% off makes a huge impact, maybe that's just me (I'm a stickler for good picture quality and reproduction). Until actual numbers come out for the Y50 this is all just more added speculation.

TLDR - TN panels' colors are fine for gaming. We need someone to put out a review, please >_>.

 

I know a few of you have your Y50 now, lets get some reviews!

Tim where did you go?

 

I'm sure the CSRs are trained to spot someone like you fishing for a discount. You have to actually tell them you're canceling your order, at which point they'll transfer you to the retention/cancellation department, and it's those people who would be authorized to give you a discount to try and retain you.

But in reality, what's their incentive to give you a discount? They already have way more people trying to order than they can fill at this time, so why sell a laptop for a 5% discount when they could just let you cancel and that would free up the laptop for someone else willing to pay full price.

 

Yea.. it's just that when gaming, my calibrated 95% gamut screen really pops up the colors of the game, especially in dota 2, how can I say this, it's really good to look at the colors and everything..

I'm thinking if will it be a BIG adjustment to a non high gamut screen in terms of the colors etc etc..

 

Consider yourself lucky, mine has been stuck in japan for days now. Apparently because of "missing the processing deadline" and now TWO "mechanical failure updates".

UPS received the shipping label on the 23rd and it's now the 30th, god knows when my packages will leave Asia.

Not happy with Lenovo or UPS at the moment to say the least!

 

What percentage gamut did you say your current screen has?

 

10 char

 

I wonder where is tim. I hope he uploads a video soon. I need to take a closer look at that screen..

 

I am starting to get really pissed at timothyz, he has had the laptop for 2 days and wrote like a few sentences and answered like 20 posts ALL without a SINGLE pic that anyone can make with their smartphone in matter of seconds...

i get you could be held up by your work but you posted like 20 posts which could've been 20 pictures time-wise!

you could have done us all a favor and not have said anything about having the laptop, that way we wouldn't have gone insane waiting for your review these 2 days

actually i'm starting to think you probably may not even own one yet

sorry but i couldn't compress my rage anymore

 

Is it possible that.. tim doesnt really like the Y50 thats why hes not motivated to post some vids or pics..? or maybe hes really just super busy at work.. i do hope tim post a vid soon..

 

it's not extra $200 to get 2GB more VRAM, because you also get 8GB more RAM

The pricing goes strategically from 100 more from the base model to get 8 more ram to
100 more to get also 2gb more vram to
100 more to also get 512 SSD

Now 512 SSD is not only worth 100 more, but its also not worth 300

as you see, it's made that way in order to make you spend more money thinking, if i can spend 100 more for more ram and again a 100 more for more vram i might aswell spend yet another 100 more for 512 ssd and w00p they made you spend 300 more in the end

 

Calm your potatoes people, he has other obligations than just to feed a thread. I plan to do a video review when I get my touch model from klick so in the next 2 weeks I will have a review up.

 

it's not about keeping calm, it's more about the principle of keeping your word

my point is he said he will and he didn't do it, that's all (even though i can bet you a thousand goats he had time to post a few pictures)

As far as i'm concerned he doesn't have to do a review anymore already lost all my nerves and there are no more left to lose :thumbsup:

 

So that's why they are stuck at customs and won't ship...

 

This review goes into pretty good detail of the screen

https://translate.google.com/transl...vo-y50-naslednikat-na-edna-gejmarska-legenda/

 

From what I understand in the review, it seems that the screen is the Y50's weakest link..

 

craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaappy screen!



http://news.laptop.bg/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Angles-Lenovo-Y50-70.jpg

but yeah... early i5 prototype nothing new here

 

Is it possible that they've improved the screen for the US model? i mean only 57% sRGB and 43% Adobe RGB? oh boy..

 

We can only hope so but yeah the screen is the weak link so far, hopefully production units are much better.

 

Well if this panel really is as bad as it seems (still no proof yet), I sure hope the 4k screen isn't as bad. That would be very, very disappointing. Such a stupid component to mess up, kind of like the razer blade when it had that terrible 1600x900 panel. Bleh!!

 

hehe, I don't know everything - only what I have. I've never come across that one though. A quick Google search shows people reporting sRGB is about 91% and NTSC 72%. Not the greatest but certainly not bad at all. My QNIX 27" is slightly better than that but has it's other quirks to deal with(PLS glow, minor BLB, etc)

 

yeah man i really doubt they will do this to the 4k screen. I think there is absolutely no logic to that since someone who would choose a 4k screen clearly has an affinity to picture quality and does NOT want a TN - it would totally not fit in the target market.

on another note, does anyone know if an ips screen can also be of bad quality? i am talking about the new ones being produced. I know that not long ago ips screens in their early stages kinda sucked due to glow and ghosting etc

 

That's a bummer on the screen. Not worth the price in my opinion. The 4k version is going to cost a fortune too and probably will creep towards the ghost pro price range, in which case most would be happier with that. I'm still not sold on 4k yet. Been using a razer blade for 3 weeks now and the scaling issues are pretty annoying to deal with. It's not just Windows, it's all the software devs who need to update their old software to support 4k

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If the screen sucks then I am opting out as well. I currently am still using a y580, which for me has a very decent glossy screen, do not want to downgrade from this panel.

 

a question, can you just use 1920x1080 resolution for desktop and when you start a movie that supports 4k - would it automatically play it on the 4k resolution even though your desktop is set to 1920x1080?

 

wait isn't y580 TN? ... and you're saying that's a downgrade to y50's TN?