Y50 Thread

It's mixed aluminum/plastic, but all the outer is aluminum.. The KB and inner is plastic.

 

i saw on a dutch news site that the asus gx500 will have gtx 860m

 

Agreed, but maybe it can't. Sometimes marketing speak comes with fine print you know. I don't know how it works, that's why I ask

 

this is the link [Computex] ASUS toont GX500: dunne en lichte gaming laptop met 4K-scherm | Hardware.Info Nederland

 

Looking forward to it! I'm curious to see how the color and viewing angles are on the glossier screen. I also asked another person who said they'd review the Y50 Touch, but could you also confirm the edge-to-edge glass? Thanks!

 

NVM. Please remove.

 

I don't understand why you think the cherrypicking to be unlikely. Isn't it quite normal to bin chips and sort them in high performance and low performance groups, to sell them at different price points?

 

and here is it in english ASUS' GX500 gaming laptop has a 4K screen and is just 19mm thick

 

Looks expensive, probably $2000+ USD

 

Good news - got our Base Touch models in a day early today! Those of your that ordered one - they are shipping out today. So as of right now, we have the Base Touch Y50 and the 59416738 available. Looking forward to the reviews!

Brian

 

Is this from Fortress or Broadway?

 

I have two questions...

1. Is the touch model matte screen? Because it says anti-glare in the description and I thought all touch were glossy.

2. The other model, the 59416738, how long does that one usually take to ship?

P.S. Thank you for being way better than Lenovo with shipping and customer service!!!

 

I suppose the only difference between the 860m and 850m for performance would be the the thermal capability (due to imperfections) at x.xMhz.

In essence, overclocking the 850m should be similar to overclocking the 860m, as the base cuda core count is the same.

According to the Nvidia given specs, the 850m and 860m are identical, except for the clock speeds. If you took them and clocked them to the same specs (given they weren't binned for bad thermals, but just re-branded), they should be identical in every regard.

Gtx 860m maxwell vs Gtx 850m maxwell

From these charts it seems the only limiting factor between the two cards being identical is that the clock speed of the Vram is lower. I say this, because the 850m falls behind when the textures are cranked to high/ultra, which is Vram intensive.

REGARDLESS, both cards have amazing performance for the power and heat. Both should be more than adequate for the casual/semi-heavy gamer on the go.

 

Unsure about #1 as we are not opening any ourselves. We should have some folks that receive theirs tomorrow that should be able to answer.
#2 - One day to ship.

 

Matte screens have a different feel & more drag, in addition to being a little harder to clean. There's a few pen style devices with matte touch screens, but the touch screen for the y50 is almost certainly glossy. It can still have some anti glare film on it tho

 

Wait, is the Non-Touch Y50's screen matte or anti-glare then? I mean, does it feel like a smooth glossy panel to the touch (and just has a special film on it for the anti-glare effect) or is does it feel rougher like a matte panel (and has the "anti-glare-ness" property built into the actual glass)? The website lists the Y50's screen as "Anti Glare", but I would like confirmation. Not that it matters that much to me - I'm not going to cancel my order regardless of how it is - but I'm curious.

 

Usually Anti-Glare means that the screen is matte. However most of us are expecting the touchscreen model to be glossy.

 

This makes me so happy I cancelled my lenovo order and went with Klick. Can't wait!

 

I said this earlier, but there are places where you can get the 7260 ac Lenovo branded FRU so that it will get past the whitelist. However, that's still absolute horse **** that other places are getting the 7260. If the 4k version does not have the 7260 I am not going to buy it probably just out of spite.

The 7260 does have some documented issues, but the point is that it is still strictly better than the 3160.

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anti-glare means matte for most of the times, but there are anti-glare panels that are glossy treated with a chemical finish to make it anti-reflective. you can tell the difference by the texture of the screen

 

I know Anti-Glare looks like Matte and the Non-Touch Y50 has been confirmed to have the Anti-Glare effect. But this effect can be achieved in two ways: by a smooth anti-reflective film layered on top of a standard glossy glass screen or by having the glass screen itself be rough, which lets it scatter light without any extra film. The first method (technically Anti-Glare) produces screens that feel smoother and are easier to clean, while the second method (technically Matte) produces screens that feel different to the touch and have more drag but are a bit clearer due to not requiring an extra film on top. Both look pretty much the same though, and both have the matte/anti-glare effect (no reflections or glare). Honestly, the slight difference is not worth fussing over but there IS a technical difference and it's annoying that everyone treats the terms Anti-Glare and Matte like perfect synonyms. They may appear very similar but the underlying method of achieving the effect is quite different.

 

860 overclocks like a monster and theoretically the 850 should too. But its also true that the 860 chips will be of a higher quality along with being faster.
However a point can be made for the oc capability of an asus 850 against a lenovo 860.
Asus' cards are normally much better than the competition in quality.
Also asus tends to have better cooled laptops hence higher thermal headroom when oc.

 

The cards are not made by Asus or lenovo though they are made by nvidia so the laptop company should have nothing to do with the quality of the GPUs...

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Close - NX500 starts @$1899

 

I am holding out for the 16gb touch model. Do you know if you will have that model at any time?

 

We have an ETA of around the end of June.

 

In terms of importance (i.e. dealbreakerness) and maintaining relevancy (i.e. future-proofness), the feature that I would consider to be perhaps the most significant is one that has been rarely discussed here, and that is output connection formats, specifically video.

The Y50 only has HDMI 1.4, meaning that it cannot connect to 4K external displays past 30 frames per second. Do not ignore this drawback. With all the new 4k devices entering the market, this will drive demand for 4K content. That demand might manifest sooner than you think.

Let's say that the new Hobbit movie is announced to come out on Amazon 4K 48 fps digital download. If you can afford the Y50, then you can probably afford one of the cheaper 4K HDTVs, and you might want to watch the movie from your laptop. Tough tootsies, no can do.

Let's say there are new cheap 32" IPS 4K monitors coming from Korea in the near future. You decide to buy one to enhance your workflow, whatever it is that you do. Oops N64 Goldeneye framerate. I work on a true 120Hz monitor, and 60Hz looks choppy to me. 30 fps is downright trashy.

Ram, storage drive, wi-fi card? Mostly irrelevant. You can upgrade these (some harder than others, and yeah yeah warranty).

CPU? Consensus here reveals that this is also mostly irrelevant. Haswell quad core, the rest is pointless costs.

GPU? 800 series nVidia GDDR5, don't stress the rest. NX500, GX500, Y50, Razer Blade 2014, Auros x3/x3+/x7, etc. Even if the 850m is silicon or heatsink limited, and we were to say that the 850m is a fixed 20% shy of the 860m, what is that? This year is 60fps vs 72fps; next year is 50 fps vs 60 fps; 30fps vs 36fps; 10fps vs 12fps. Point is, in a couple years it will not matter at all.

Keyboard and screen? Actually deceptively important. These are things that you will use all the time on the laptop. The dedicated GPU is a sometimes component, even if you're a gamer. Those keys will feel mushy every time. You never get that page up, page down key, etc. Same goes for the screen.

I think I'm going to cancel my order with Lenovo because of the lack of DisplayPort/thunderbolt/HDMI 2.0.

 

Does Klick ship to Canada?

 

Klick does, but only through Ebay (Global Shipping Program).

 

It's a shame to be missing those, but I think that's the tradeoff you're going to get on a cheaper laptop. If you're unconcerned with noise, why not look at the GS60 or Razer Blade? Those both seem to fit your requirements.

 

4K is a marketing joke. The only way to get true 4k is through a "player" that has the HDMI 2.0 standard. Everything else needs to be up-scaled, including all digital cable TV.

Here's what you need to know:

Why Ultra HD 4K TVs are still stupid - CNET

HDMI 2.0: What you need to know - CNET

HDMI 2.0 upgrade path: Where do the manufacturers stand? - CNET

If you want to wait for a computer maker, to deliver the 4K, HDMI 2.0 standard, from your PC, to your $10-20K TV/monitor, be my guest.

As for me, I'd rather have a working computing system today, not 10 years from now. :laugh:

 

for displayport and HDMI I can understand, but thunderbolt port? really? those have a long way to go to become the mainstream

 

Source?

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I'm curious, for my Y50 video game benchmarks I plan to make,do people prefer in game footage or live stable footage with FPS shown in the corner?

 

can you do 3dmark 11 free performance score 1280x720? it is a good benchmark

 

Link me to a download? I've never used 3D mark before.

 

Download 3DMark and PCMark - Futuremark

free version just run the full experience

 

Why not run it at 1080p instead of scaling to 720p?

 

live footage only if you can stream it without losing fps

 

free version is restricted to 1280x720 which is what most people test on any system

 

Newegg is selling the Y50 model with the i5-4200h processor for $1,029.99.

Newegg.com - Computer Parts, Laptops, Electronics, and More!

Brian, will you also be stocking this model?

 

Nope, we don't stock the models that the Big Box stores carry - they are generally exclusive to them. We normally just stock the Lenovo website models.

 

I see. The base model you are selling is a better value anyway. I was just curious.

 

I agree!

But nevertheless, good find on an i5 Y50 in the US!

 

Any news on the battery life?

 

Your "still stupid" CNet article is a year and a half old. A lot changes in that amount of time in the technology world.

"10 years from now"? A quick non-deal search on Amazon shows you can buy a 4K HDTV for $399. They have the HDMI 2.0 refresh for $499 on Walmart. On newegg you can get 4K monitors with DisplayPort (60Hz) for around $600.

So yes, it is totally reasonable within the Y50 buyer's budget, and not 10 years away, that you can get a 4K work monitor. Too bad, in order to get 60 frames per second, you need DisplayPort, which just about all of Y50's competition has, but not the Y50 itself. Don't try to argue that no one "needs" 4K and/or 60Hz for Photoshop/Illustrator, or Premiere/Avid, or 3DSMax/Maya. It's nice to have. I don't care if CNet a year and a half ago pretends that people's eyes or too sucky to see the difference, because they can see the difference. I heard the same arguments about 60Hz vs 120Hz, lol to that.

Maybe 4K digital cable is a ways off. I didn't claim it wasn't. In my original post, I cited the imminent possibility of 4K digital download (you know, like what people do all the time on iTunes and Amazon) video content.

I didn't mean to upset anyone who bought a Y50 already, sheesh.

 

The newegg version has the 7260 card
WTH Lenovo?

Also,does anybody know the exact capacity of the 4 cell battery in Whr(watt hrs)?

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I like the way 4k is becoming more widespread, albeit at a premium. It's like were skipping 2500x1600.

 

actually, how would a hdmi to displayport cable work for that? would the capacity be still limited to 30Hz because it's sourcing from HDMI or would we get the 60Hz?

54wH

 

Thanks


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