Y50 Thread

Relax about the wireless card, guys. It's the easiest upgrade possible, even if you have to put a bit more effort in to buy the proper version that Lenovo has allowed. Anyways, I highly doubt that the card would make a noticeable difference to most people. The 3160 is a pretty good card and does everything it needs to just fine. Even my old 4-year old wireless card on my current laptop is great and it's just impossible for the 3160 to be worse. People who have already got the computer say the 3160 card is totally fine too. So I don't see why everyone is whining so much about it. At worst, it's a small annoyance.

On the other hand, I'm wondering a bit now whether I should wait for the 4K Y50 models to arrive. By the time Lenovo ships my laptop (June 19th), they're probably already going to be available on the US Lenovo website and the Canadian Lenovo website is only around 2 weeks behind. I experimented some more with glossy and matte screens at work (we have numerous external displays) and decided again that I prefer glossy. The colours just popped more and getting rid of annoying reflections was as easy as slightly tilting the screen and/or turning up the brightness. The matte screens didn't seem bad; just not as pretty, haha. I'm almost entirely a media consumer instead of a media producer, so I actually like the artificially brightened colours on glossy screens that can mess up photo editors but that don't bother me. That said, I don't really want to carry around 5.7 pounds just to have a touchscreen I won't use much. 5.3 pounds is significantly more portable than 5.7 pounds - the latter is getting on the heavy side for a university student. So I don't really want to get the FHD Touch Model just to upgrade from matte to glossy. Another point is that the 4K resolution does make things look really pretty; the screen feels almost liquid-like when the pixels are so small.

Do we know if Non-Touch Glossy 4K Y50 models will be available? Or will all 4K models have Touch (or be matte?)?
Oh, and someone please answer the battery lifetime question please! I'm also curious.

 

Specifically, can the Y50 play the entirety of Once Upon a Time in America (runtime: 4 hours) on max brightness on my bed without having to be plugged in?

 

Would any other 4 hour movie work or does it specifically have to be Once Upon a Time in America?

 

Interesting that the Newegg version has 4GB x 2 for the RAM, so upgrading to more than 8GB will be much more expensive in that model than in the model being sold on the Lenovo website (and by Klick) that has 8GB x 1.

 

Ive seen this a few times on newegg and other sites when they cannot get a clear indication from the manufacture they will hedge their bets and say it 2x4gb cards but then might be the 1x8gb card. I think lenovo would be all about saving money and unless they are sourcing old memory they had on hand it is cheaper to source 1x8gb card. But this is all speculation.

 

hey guys if you want to reduce a little bit of heat, just use the wired lan. It's crazy how hot the wireless card can get in an extended period of time, it adds heat to the internals of the laptop, especially when downloading or gaming.

 

5.3 significantly more portable than 5.7? What? I'm going to be a first year college student and I don't see how less than a 10% weight increase is going to make or break a purchase >.>

And its not how easy it is to upgrade the wireless card, its how annoying it is to get the lenovo specific one which likely costs 60+ USD for people in us considering the only places selling the card with the specific FRUs are in Europe.
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I had a 6lb Lenovo Y500 my last 2yrs of high school in my backpack with no struggl; I admit I'm a pretty skinny dude. My friend who is way shorter than me had a 8lb Asus in his backpack and he didn't really care. I'm going to college next year with the 5.7lb Y50 so I expect no drastic effort in portability. I think you sense a big weight difference by the pound rather than by the ounces for a laptop but that's my opinion. I notice a major difference for tablets and phones because you're constantly holding them, while my laptop is almost always on a table or in my backpack.

 

That'd what I'm saying lol. In high school I had to lug around several textbooks all day anyway so what's 1 or 2 more pounds. I think people blow portability out of proportion but each person has their different preferences

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lol that reminds me of my freshman year at college. The shortest guy in our class (probably around 5'0) lugged around a 17.3" asus gaming laptop along with its huge power brick. The laptop along with the ac adapter weighed just under 11lb and made my 5.8lb hp laptop look like an ultrabook next to it rofl. IMO anything under 6lb is perfectly fine to lug around with.

 

Yes I know that. All companies buy the cards but all of them do not pay the same. The sourced cards which the companies get are different in quality. Asus with its large size, adequete cooling, custom pcb size etc. seems to pay more attention to this.
Also imho asus laptops generally overclock better. Lesser artifacts at higher oc. Btw this is usually before the thermal cap is reached on a similar laptop.
And no I'm no Asus fanboy!

 

How will the Maxwell chips fair with running programs like SolidWorks? I know that 3d modelling programs require the Quadro series, but how would the Maxwell compare with the 750m or intel iris pro?

 

I'm not able to install the latest graphics driver from nvidia. It installs the latest GeForce Experience software but that says the 332.50 driver is up to date. The 337.88 driver is WHQL certified and lists compatibility with the 860m but when trying to install it, it says "This graphics driver could not find compatible graphics hardware." On nvidia's website, it says "Your product manufacturer requires you to download a driver for your device from their website" but it's 332.50 is pretty outdated at this point. Anyone know a way I can get the updated drivers installed? Should be a pretty noticeable increase in performance.

 

I ordered the 512gb SSD variant on the 27th and am on the fence about cancelling too. So I get that external displays will be limited to 30fps. What about the built in panel? I'm reading that it's TN, does that allow for 60fps?
Though as one of the later posters said... for $1500 CAD, there's only so much you can ask for. The cheapest GS60 (with 128gb ssd/1tb hd, 16gb ram, single gtx860m [kepler, not maxwell]) is $2000 CAD on newegg after taxes. I'm not willing to bump the price up by $500 just for insta deliver and the (very nice) rainbow backlighting. If the upcoming Asus NX is indeed 1899 USD it'll be at least 2000 CAD. It seems to me the Y50 is still best bang for buck atm. Shame the wait time on shipping is oh so long.

 

Hi what's the delivery date on the order.... I was planning to order it too.!

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You can probably change the inf file to force install the drivers downloaded directly from nividia.

 

anyone who also see a Y50 with a GTX880M? is that a typo or a new model?

Lenovo Y50 Laptop | 15.6" High-Performance Gaming Notebook PC | Lenovo (US)

 

Must be a typo, when you look at the price it is the same, even though the 880m is a much more expensive part. Also, this laptop would melt a hole to China if it had an 880m.

 

but that's the first time i saw a 500GB model..

does klick online offer a discount on top of the discount that lenovo's giving us?

 

*facepalm* I wonder if you could milk out a discount by claiming that you were misinformed when buying it and thought it really had an 880m


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can you even charge them with fraud if it came with an 860M? =)))

 

Man, Lenovo is so sloppy *smh*... amazing that they have as many customers as they do...

 

I know most likely the 860m 4GB is maxwell, but has anyone confirmed it?

 

i had a chat with a lenovo rep and according to her, it's just a typo error.
btw, they're expecting the 4k model by the last week of this month.
also from her "It is just like the current type of TN panel"

hopefully she's just saying something that she's not really aware of.

 

It has been confirmed.

The reps have stated that the 4k will be TN all along, but some pre order sites from different places have it listed as IPS. This is what is going to decide whether I am getting this laptop or not, so I guess I'll find out soon enough...

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Oh really, that's good! But could you please tell me how or where it was confirmed?

 

Someone posted a picture of it having 4gb and being maxwell

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oh my god please no...

yeah panel type is also going to be either a deal breaker or a deal maker for me

 

I got the Y50 from Klick today! UPS came to my door at almost 9PM, I was waiting for so long for that package! Shoot!
My first impressions are..crazy how thin this laptop is in person! So much preloaded software junk though! And then, the screen is just terrible (I'm comparing it to my Precision M6600 screen though, so not a really fair comparison).
My cousin and I were setting it up, uninstalling all the junk, and trying to figure out how to adjust the screen. It just looked a bit fuzzy. We went through to the ClearType adjustments, and we think it helped in Windows itself (for example, when right clicking to pull up the properties on the desktop the text was sharp/fine), but text in Chrome for example just seemed off and fuzzy.

It was getting late so we just stopped there though. But any of the other Y50 users have this same situation of a poor-ish looking screen?

Many thanks to Klick though for a fantastic price for the laptop!

 

See the quote below:

 

You could for sure do that. They advertise it as a laptop with a gtx880m 2gb (impossible but okay they say so) in the specs list. You buy that laptop with that spec list. And you did get charged the price of the laptop with that spec list and still you didn't get what the spec list sayed you would get. So totally charge able.

 

Ugh. That new Asus is calling my name. And I'm all like "No, I don't have the extra $500 for you." And it's all like "But I'm sooooooooooo sexy."



I have great specs for what I paid with the Y50. But the better build, the dual fans, that SCREEN OMG, the extra ports...plus waiting until October.

 

Chargeable in the sense that they need to allow you to return the laptop for a full refund .. Typos are not fraud - fraud requires intent to deceive. Just like with price mistakes when a retailer or online retailer accidentally prices something at 99cents instead of 99 dollars. They don't HAVE to give you the product at that price or additional compensation - they can cancel the order, offer you a full refund upon return, etc. To be honest, it's closer to fraud if you buy something knowing that it's a typo and intending on trying to get compensation.

 

I am still torn between the Y40 and Y50.

The y40 1299 version:
512SSD
Slower cpu/only dual core
16gb of ram

Y50 base version 1499:
Hybrid 500gb HDD
Faster quad core
Backlit keyboard
only 8gb ram

Anything else I'm missing? If I ultimately go with the y50 I'll surely upgrade to a 512gb ssd and 16gb ram later on, which would bring up the price significantly in the end. However the 1499 version is just too expensive atm.

 

The GPUs are also quite different. I would never even consider the Y40.

 

I've read somewhere that Broadwell processors will not even require a cooling fan cuz of how cool they will run!
Can this be possible or did they refer to just the tablet versions of broadwell processors??

If it's true imagine the possibilities.... I mean you would only need a fan for the GPU... the laptops will experience a huge battery life increase

 

Good question. I would like to know it.

 

Yeah forgot about that. The GPU isn't that important to me actually since I don't game at all. I often do image post processing (lightroom) but I'm not sure the GPU will have such a huge impact. Tough, very tough choices :-/

Anyone has some comparisons of the hybrid HDD vs SSD? I've had SSD in my last two computers, and I would say even right now it is what makes my laptop still very fast after being 4 years old compared to other laptops without SSD.

 

If you don't game at all, why even buy this laptop? There are plenty of choices out there that have better screens and will run Lightroom just fine. Many can get away with integrated graphics for that, although I would recommend at least a light GPU.

 

I don't know for certain but it's a crapshoot with non-quadro cards. I've had some that will open it ok, others buggy and others it locks up on the splash screen. HD 4600 does a pretty good job though as long as you aren't doing heavy rendering or have super complex assemblies.

 

Hmm, I would be very interested if you could point me in the right direction? When I searched last, my criteria was for the resolution to be 1920x1080, decent CPU and 8gb ram+, and something thinner/lighter than what I have right now (dell xps15). If I wasn't worried about the size/thickness I would've probably bought the y510 already since it was selling for a very good price. However all of the options out there seem to be pretty bulky... :-/

Going back to Dell is also out of the question, I had a bad experience with them and will not buy from them again.

 

it's just something that delights me considering that something like that but with a real intention of MISLEADING the consumers are not being punished/prosecuted here in my country and that same thing is being abused by SOME consumers there. ex.(Unlimited Data) but with a bandwidth cap. =)

btw, klick, are the discounts you're offering on top of the lenovo's? and are you shipping worldwide?

 

You're right, if all your're doing is image processing, all you really need is CPU, Ram, SSD and a nice screen. After I typed that, I thought about it and you really want something better than an Ultrabook CPU, which is what all the alternatives are carrying now. You could get away with an Ultrabook CPU for sure, but it would be faster to have this. Honestly though, if it were me, I would stick with the XPS 15 because of the screen - that's just me though. To answer your earlier question, you want a SSD. Hybrid drive will bottleneck a lot of what you do.

 

Could an owner with the stock hybrid drive report the make and model of the drive, as well as their general experience with it thus far?

I know that SSDs are by far superior, but I'm under the impression that the superiority is mostly in terms of file transfers and first-run load times. Correct me if I'm wrong, but after initially loading Windows and your apps/games, the 8gb cache has stored all of the important bits so that boot and load times are minimally different from an SSD - correct?

If so, I can't really justify spending the extra money on the ssd at this time. That's why I would like to know what the boot and load times are with this stock hybrid.

Thanks!!!

 

Do you need 1TB? Crucial is selling their new line of SSDs for $100 for 256GB and $200 for 512GB. You could sell that TB drive on ebay for $50. I ditched my hybrid drive a couple years back and I will never go back. It is literally a night and day experience. Sure when you get things loaded into the cache, it boots fast but when there are updates, it slows back down to the crawl until it loads back into the cache. Maybe things are a little better than 2 years ago but technology is moving in the SSD direction while HDDs are only intended for raw storage. Could be the reason why 7200 rpm HDDs are becoming more and more scarce.

 

Ah, I was really hoping you would have something cheaper to suggest me! My current XPS actually works fine but overheats so much, especially during summer, that it downclocks a lot and it gets very annoying. The design of the laptop is basically flawed, and I had some big troubles with it freezing in the beginning, before I formatted everything clean. The nicest thing about this laptop is the screen but someone was telling me earlier in this thread the screen of the y50 should be at least as nice, so if that is true I'll be happy in the end.

Thanks for confirming my suspicions about the SSD.

 

Well when you said about as thin as an XPS 15 that eliminated most of the alternatives with non ultrabook CPUs. The N550JK is a slightly cheaper alternative but it's a little thicker. My buddy has one and I think it's pretty nice. Good screen, build and sound. Dual storage is a nice option to have too.

 

Hehe yeah I guess I have to decide how much important thickness is for me. I love dual storage, its what I have right now and is the perfect setup (I swapped my optical drive for another hdd). By the looks of it the N550JK seems nice but price-wise its pretty close to the y50 (if not more expensive depending on the model). Ahhh if only there was a way to build a custom laptop...I struggle every few years to find the perfect model, only to realize time and again that its about compromises.

 

The screen on the new Dell XPS 15 is miles better than the Y50 screens. I doubt that even the 4K Y50 screen will be as nice. The only reason to not get the latest 2014 Dell XPS 15 is the high chance of coil whine with its current motherboard. If you have bad hearing for high-pitched noises and/or don't mind occassional whine, I think the new XPS 15 is pretty much a no-brainer. You won't find the same combination of great CPU and amazing screen on any other 15.6" laptop right now until the Asus NX500 becomes available, and even that laptop won't have as nice of a trackpad or keyboard (the XPS 15 also lacks a numpad or Home-End column but at least the keys it does have are very good, near-Lenovo quality). I think your main choices are the new Dell XPS 15 if you don't mind some probable coil whine, the Asus NX500 if you can wait a bit longer and are fine with a slight keyboard downgrade, and the 4K (probably IPS) model of the Y50 if you can wait even longer (considering Lenovo's outrageously bad shipping times). Oh, and the Asus N550JK if you don't mind it being a bit fat and heavy (~6 pounds).

Also, guys who have the Y50 already: can someone please make a half-decent 5 minute video review? The guy who posted that unboxing video did not know how to use a camera or light up the room so we could actually see something (though it was still a lot better than nothing). I would like to see the laptop and the matte FHD screen in action some more and there are no good sources for this right now....A bunch of you people have already got your Y50s so can someone please help the rest of us out on our decision?

 

I am wondering. I heard that the license key for windows is kept in the BIOS, does this mean that if I have a windows 8.1 install disk, can I just do a clean install and not have to pay for a new activation?