Y50 Thread

I'm guessing yes, there are ways to extract it, try googling it.

That way you can use the key that came with the laptop instead of using your own.

 

You should totally compare the n550jk and the y50 of you could get your hands on both would be awesome to see the temp differences.. Screen differences and gpu gap..!

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Since Windows 8 has a built in refresh option, can't you use it to reset a new Y50 to a base install without all the junk?

 

I just researched a bit more on the n550jk and it seems like a winner for me! Thanks a lot Xentar, I think I may have found what I want!! That screen looks gorgeous...

Sorry for derailing off track from the y50, but hopefully maybe it helps some others making an informed decision as well.

 

I thought we proved that it will be 95% PLS from the model number, so why are still bringing this up?

 

Sorry if this has been asked before, I tried searching, but does anyone know what kind of screws are used for the bottom panel and to take out the hard drive?

 

that's probably just bs. broadwell will get a significant increase in efficiency and decrease in TDP for sure, but I really don't see how it can reduce heat that much. In fact I'm more worried about its cooling because of a smaller die area

 

Only released to manufacturing atm. No delivery date quoted yet...

 

Can someone tell me how much difficulty I'll run into, upgrading the thermal paste to IC Diamond? How easy it to totally destroy my computer by doing it wrong? I'm supposed to repaste the CPU & GPU, right? And since the paste is a conductor, why not spread some on the heat transfer pipes, as well?

 

you can short your CPU if you over spread it. your heat pipes work very differently in that sense. heat pipes have fluids inside them to conduct heat, so there's no point of putting thermal paste outside

 

I hope that will work, I'm planning on doing it immediately as soon as I get the laptop. I have had so many issues in the past with Lenovo's bloatware, especially the wireless software. Getting clean drivers from the manufacturers has worked so much better.

I'm not sure if Lenovo can tie in their OneKeyRecovery into the Windows 8 refresh settings. If they can, that would be a problem. OneKeyRecovery has always recovered all of the pre-installed bloatware, which is incredibly annoying. If the Windows 8 Refresh settings are intact, than all should be well.

 

According to this article: Intel unveils fanless 14nm Broadwell Core M processor | ZDNet

So yeah it's for tablets unfortunately.

Anyway i7-4790K chip seems like is going to be in production later this month, which is a Haswell refresh K-Series overclockable up to 4.4 GHz (!)

Wonder if those will be integrated in the y50 4k version. Probably not. Maybe GX500.

 

I've reinstalled a fresh copy of Windows 8 on over a dozen laptops in the past year and the only one that required a key was Razer's(they still use a sticker on the bottom for some awful reason). You shouldn't have a problem. If you do, there's a program called wpkey that extracts the key from the bios. Simple to use

 

i7-4790k, which we know as devil's canyon, the one with upgraded thermal paste is a desktop CPU, so you won't see it in any laptop besides some of Clevo's P series.
about broadwell, yeah that's just for mobile

 

If I get the Y50, I certainly will but I don't think I am. Because displays are a pet peeve of mine, I was totally considering the 4k version but I have a feeling the price is going to be too high. Since I had to send my Razer back because of a defect I was considering just not reordering it and trying the Y50. Until a couple days ago, it wouldn't have mattered but I can wait for the GX500 or the NX500 and decide then. I got a bargain on a Q550LF that can hold me over for a few months.

 

We only ship worldwide through the Ebay listings - those we cannot discount very much.

 

Anyone noticed there is a 880M version showed up online? Is that real or another mistake lenovo made?
PS: the optical version is gone now

 

I see the 880m version.. I can't imagine an 880m in a laptop this small; surely this is a mistake. Also, it looks like they removed the discount of the base model, unfortunately.. but the 4710 version says it is shipping in 7 to 9 business days rather than 3 weeks!

 

Lenovo has probably the worst service I've seen in a while.
How could such a big company have such typos on their website, obviously whoever was in charge of it didn't give two craps.
No explanation whatever about that version disappearing and then the reps hardly know what they're doing half the time.
It's pretty sad. I personally would never order straight from lenovo ever.

 

do not believe their shipping times at all. they can easily say whatever they want. ex: for the canada website, they had all y50's as shipping dates of 1-3 business days and everyone is at like 3-4 weeks shipping time now, so they can easily change on you without even a notice.

 

Has anyone noticed this second y50 video (Battlefield 4 gameplay video) that got posted to youtube? I didn't see it in any past posts, but there are so many it is hard to find.. sorry if this is a repost..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfAxP7Y9el0

It is by the same guy who did the unboxing video.

 

Yep, he posted it.

Link to post: http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/741832-y50-thread-412.html#post9677058

 

This is really what irks me most about this whole situation. It would be one thing if they were appropriately updating the shipping times on their website to be the more practical 4+ weeks to ship (or heck, at least 3-4 weeks), but leaving a lot of the models as being ready to ship within a week is such crap. Any customer not monitoring a forum or constantly calling Lenovo for updates would be left out in the cold.

Truly a terrible business model and ethics.

 

Seems like the announced Asus G551 is the gonna be a better competitor to the Y50 than the GX500 especially from a price point as its mentioned as around 1000 euros and comes with a 860M instead of the DDR3 850M in G550JK (no wonder the model was discontinued? ) and a screen upto 4k possibility.



I have a feeling Lenovo failed to capitalize on their product and could have made it a killer model with the addition of a IPS panel thus making it better than the G551 with a slimmer design and still beat the GX500 from a price to performance perspective.

 

I agree 100% with this. The TN panel is something you have to deal with all the time, its not a "certain usage scenario" component. Having a better panel wouldn't of caused much cost increase either, so I don't know why they went with the panel they did.

 

nice catch, didn't see that one with all the hype about the nx/gx 500

i am guessing it doesn't have the 100% NTSC gamut?

 

<strike>So far they're suppose to have the same exact 4k panel.</strike>

In one of the conference videos on YouTube they say there will also be a 2560x1440 version that will be lower cost for the Gx500. I don't know if they said the color specs for the G551, but I'd assume it would be close to the 4k panel on the GX500, probably a little less accurate to save cost.

 

You know what's agonizing? Waiting for your laptop to come when the delivery is scheduled for today. I also have to go to take finals in an hour :/ I CANT WAIT FOR IT RMERGAJDHDJDH

 

Not mentioned as 100% NTSC gamut but even if it turns out to be as good as the N550JK IPS or better its a win imo considering the GPU upgrade and the aluminum finish and the great cooling.
The only downer is the thicker body and and a slightly higher weight ~5.9 pounds but I think i can live with that as the screen upgrade makes its worthwhile.

 

Thank you! I was wondering what happened to the 1440p panels. To me, that's the sweet spot to where you can actually still play games and have a tight pixel density.

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Well you can game on 4k screens at 1080p and it shud be fine with as on a 1080p resolution LCD. Effectively 4k is 4 pixels to 1 pixel in 1080p thus making a 1080p render like native resolution of a 1080p panel.

 

So the new Asus models look wonderful of course but aren't they at least 3 months out? I haven't purchased anything yet so maybe I can wait but I figure there will always be a new model with incremental improvements coming 4 months down the road regardless of when I buy. I'm still hoping/waiting for a compelling 4k model that's IPS or PLS.

Heck I'd even consider a touch model with an SSD if they came preconfigured with a decent discount. Just waiting to get a release date.

 

True but after dealing with all the scaling issues with the razer blade, I'd rather avoid them if possible. I like 1080p gaming but I love 1440p gaming. For some reason, 1440p wasn't even a scaling option on the razer blade either. I wonder if the y50 4k will have the same issue.

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Meh, the keyboard looks really ugly. What was Asus thinking when it made WASD in red unlike the rest of the keys? How could you take that to a business meeting or to work and have anyone take you seriously. The rest of the computer looks pretty ugly as well: Lenovo designed a MUCH more aesthetically pleasing red+black+grey look all the way back with the Y500 and has only improved on it with the Y50. The Y50 looks very modern and stylish but at the same time really clean: the red bands around the keys don't pop out annoyingly and just look good. While the G551 looks really muddy and has red highlights in awkward, overly flashy places. In my opinion, it actually makes the computer look cheap and stupid unlike the Y50, which looks tasteful and elegant. And of course the G551 is bound to have the idiotic RoG badge on the lid that even people who can't see the ugly WASD keys are bound to notice. Oh, and the G551 is thicker and heavier and has a dumb DVD drive for some reason. In short, the G551 looks terrible and a better screen isn't enough to make up for the hideous design - in my opinion, the Lenovo Y50 is a much nicer looking package and is equally powerful specs-wise. The GX500 looks better than the G551 but instead packs an absolutely awful keyboard. Maybe on a computer like the NX500 or Dell XPS 15 a smaller, "cleaner" looking keyboard is debatable (though I'd personally still take at least a Home-End column if not a full numpad every day). But on a laptop billed as a 15.6" gaming machine the small keyboard is just inexcusable.

I like what Asus is doing, especially with the NX500 and its Zenbook series, but when the Asus laptops are put side-by-side with the Y50 it seems like a trade-off between screen quality and keyboard quality. And while it's possible to upgrade screens after purchase or more than possible to use a nice external display, the tiny (or ugly, in the case of the G551) keyboards on the Asus machines would be there forever and would always irritate me. Using an external keyboard for a laptop is just dumb, imo, and is nowhere near as easy or useful as plugging in an external monitor. And keyboard quality and size is extremely important on a computer for work and gaming and pretty much everything else.

I was thinking about making an exception for the Dell XPS 15 again because the keyboard seems very high quality apart from its small size. Today I was tempted to order one again (while they are still on sale) and hope that I get a model without coil whine or only slight whine - just because the screen and build quality are so amazing. But I found yet another thing that turned me off: no ethernet port! At my university residence ethernet is by far the best way to use the internet and even at home it is more reliable and quick than wireless. Why Dell wouldn't include one is beyond me...it is far from being a dead technology. I could probably let it slide but the combination of this and coil whine and the small keyboard and all the other problems is just too much. Maybe my next next laptop will be an XPS 15 2018 or something, when they iron out all of the problems. But for now it's just too much irritation to handle, even with a sexy display to mollify me.

 

I wouldn't get to excited for a 2560x1440 screen, as they JUST unveiled the laptop, and its still a prototype of sorts. Not much is confirmed yet.

Talk of the NX500, GX500, G551 all point to a release date/pre order of Q3. That would mean a time frame of July to September. I'm assuming there will overlap for the release dates of the various models.

The Lenovo Y50 is suppose to be getting it's 4k version near the end of June. HOPEFULLY the panel is good and isn't a rushed early run version that has bad color and viewing angles (since its one of the first 4k panels for a laptop).

 

Where did you see that the G550JK was discontinued? As far as I know, it's just set to come out in the very near future, so if it's been discontinued, that would be a surprise. These models that Asus is announcing this week are for their next model year, probably starting this fall and rolling out through Q1 and Q2 next year.

 

@hjanos thanks! That post must have slipped by me for the scaling

And to everyone that is suggesting the built-in Windows 8 refresh, I tried it before on another laptop thinking that it was a genius way to get rid of the bloatware.. but it just reset everything to factory default, as in with the bloatware I'm not sure if it's different for the Y50 since I didn't try it, but I doubt it.

@arcturar If you lay out what you wanted specifically I can go ahead and put up a video (in 4k ) for you if you wanted. It might not be done until next week though as I'm just getting bombarded with things I need to do for this week. The display honestly just seemed like a typical bad TN display, nothing special about it.

 

THIS.

aesthetically speaking, I don't care how my laptop looks as long as it performs (which is why I finally declined the N550jk.) Seeing the G551, I was almost swayed away from Lenovo again.

Then I saw the Keyboard. horrible ergonomics, and what the heck is up with a power button in a place that gets a lot of typing traffic?

Seems like no matter how many issues we hear of, and how many competing products are announced, I always seem to come back the the Y50

 

Well any Asus G series is aimed at Gamers in both function and design. They aren't exactly meant for professional or business settings. The closest where you can get best of both worlds is with an unbranded Clevo or Sager. Although I do believe the Y50 is understated enough to be both a gaming laptop and possibly have business aesthetics.

The XPS series and equivalents have a gaming capable GPU but also aren't aimed at gamers. Its a shame they couldn't design it to be able to occupy the x60M or higher series of GPUs.

 

Yay, thanks ! First of all, I want to see the laptop from different angles both with lid closed and lid open; so far the only video of this is preposterously dark. Please turn on the light when making the video, lol. I also want to see a bit of interaction with the Start Tile Menu, as this is what every other laptop screen shows in reviews, the tiles are very colourful, and it makes comparing colour vibrancy between other screens/laptops a lot easier. The videos of Battlefield and stuff don't help much because everything there is grey anyways, so please show the Start Tile Menu and your desktop instead. I also want to see your hands actually typing on the full keyboard so I can get a better sense of scale: apparently the Y50 is a bit larger than most 15.6" laptops and I haven't had a laptop with a numpad in a long time, so I want to see how big everything really is. That's really about it...I know that games will run great on the laptop for sure, so I don't need game footage. Thanks again!

 

So true, lol!
I've been doubting my decision sometimes because my laptop is taking so long to arrive, but I always come back. Even if I decide that I really dislike the matte screen on the Y50 I ordered, the only thing I can see myself getting instead right now is a Y50 with a 4K Touchscreen, haha. Lenovo may not have the sexiest display around but they got a lot right with this laptop. One compromise (screen) is easier to face than the several compromises Asus forces upon you (weaker graphics card in the NX500 or bad designs for the RoG series, lousy small keyboards, average sound quality, thickness and weight, useless DVD drives, etc...) or the million compromises the Dell XPS 15 provides (coil whine, image retention, variable build quality, screen freezing, painful price tag, etc...). The Razer Blade 2014 is a good machine but is ridiculously overpriced and has overheating and ghosting problems, and the MSI Ghost GS60 suffers from lousy build quality and a mindblowingly bad trackpad. And Clevos and Gigabytes and everything else seem to have their own problems too.

 

I don't think you meant it but you just made everything else out to seem like trash haha

I have to totally agree, a bad track-pad destroys a laptop. Using a usb mouse is just annoying unless your at a desk, which defeats the purpose of portability.

As for the keyboards. What exactly makes the Asus keyboards bad? My daily driver is a ducky shine (mechanical), yet when I use cheaper laptop rubber dome or chicklet keyboards, they're not "that bad". I guess I'm just missing why you feel the other keyboard are so "bad".

 

Oh, I also really, really want to see a comparison of the FHD Glossy Touch display with the FHD Anti-Glare Non-Touch Display. I'm starting to somewhat regret getting the Anti-Glare version because I want my screen to be bright and vibrant much, much more than I care about it being resistant to glare. If I could swap a screen myself I'm sure I could also figure out how to swap the hard drive for an SSD, warranty and the extra 0.4 pounds (of touchscreen) be damned! At this point the only reason I don't want to switch my order to the Glossy Touch model is that I've already waited a full two weeks for my laptop and am lucky enough to have gotten an estimated shipping date of June 19th (that seems stable for now). Most people in Canada who ordered later than me seem to still have no estimated shipping dates and are getting screwed by the backlog even harder. My current laptop screen did get fixed and is fully functional, so I COULD wait longer. But I really don't want to, haha.

Do you guys think I could directly call Lenovo and ask them to change my screen to a glossy panel (Touch or Non-Touch, I don't care) directly at Manufacturing? Obviously for an extra fee, which I would be willing to pay. Or when I receive my Y50 at the end of June, can I send it to them and ask for a screen swap to Glossy if I am not content with the Anti-Glare display? Obviously them doing this right now at Manufacturing would be way more efficient, but maybe I would even be prepared to go for the second option if option 1 is completely impossible. A vibrant screen is pretty important to have...

 

Mostly the tiny keyboard size and lack of a numpad or even a Home-End column on 15.6" laptops... In addition to that, feedback and travel on Asus keyboards are generally not as good as on Dell or especially Lenovo keyboards. Lenovo is pretty much the undisputed ruler of keyboards. I've also heard that some Asus keys are kind of "clacky" if hit on the corners and overall don't showcase the same build quality and attention Lenovo provides in this area. Basically, Asus keyboards are pretty good and are bound to be more than good on their premium models, but they suffer a lot from being so damn small and aren't as good as Lenovo keyboards in any case.

 

Sorry if I'm lame and late lol. But it sounds like klick online has solid deals. How can I message them directly?

 

Got my Y50 from Klick yesterday. Just a few random first impressions:
* I was really surprised by how quiet it is. Could barely hear the fan even when gaming, and I there wasn't any noticeable CPU/GPU throttling. I could feel some heat through the keyboard but it wasn't too bad.
* Build quality seems good, it doesn't "creak" and I can't twist the bottom half.
* The keyboard will take some getting used to, even with the numpad it's strange not having the trackpad right in the center. Also the right shift key is too small.
* I got a few weird glitches while playing Just Cause 2 (random huge polygons floating in the sky.) I noticed that there is a newer Nvidia driver on their website, but I can't install it ("no compatible hardware found" or something.) I guess I have to wait for Lenovo to release the updated one.
* The screen is definitely worse than my 4 year old HP Pavilion, even though it seems like the same kind of panel. Light colors look washed out compared to dark ones, I tried doing the gamma calibration in the control panel but then I just got the opposite problem.
* I thought everything ran on the Nvidia GPU but apparently it also has integrated Intel graphics to save battery when not gaming. If a program doesn't run well you might have to go to the advanced 3D settings and configure it to run on the 860M.

 

I thought maybe this article could help you. Workstation Graphics: 14 FirePro And Quadro Cards - 21 Graphics Cards, Benchmarked And Compared In Workstation Apps.

 

Which model did you get? Base Y50 (non-touch) I assume?

 

I've been off this thread for like a week, so I don't know if anyone posted yet but Newegg has the Y50 now. They are tax free. However, you only get a dual core i5. Lenovo Y50 - Gaming Laptop | NewEgg.com - Newegg.com

DISCLAIMER: I don't know if anyone already posted this because I missed the last 50 pages.

Oh, btw I got my Y50 in the mail last night from Klick!

 

Where did you get the shipping estimate of the 19th? Was that from calling up, or has your online tracking updated? I wasn't aware anyone in Canada had a shipping date yet, my online tracking is still blank...