Y580 Owners Thread

Thanks for the clarification, guys. I'll just stick with RapidDrive I suppose. From people that have had the Y580 a while, how far does it go in improving performance? Is it worth keeping the drives connected?

Also, the right click on the touchpad feels a little stuff, I often have to press twice to make it respond. Anyone else have that issue?

 

I find the Y580 touchpad in general to be a little stiff. For the right click, I've just modified the touchpad so that anywhere i click will register as a left click, and a right click is a two finger tap.


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That's interesting. How can I modify touchpad gestures? Does it come with the software?

 

Ya, you can modify that touchpad gestures under the "Touchpad Properties" for the Synaptics clickpad.

To modify touchpad settings so that a two finger tap performs a right click, you will need to modify the registry. Search '2FingerTapAction' in your registry.

Then, double click it and modify the value to '2'. Log off and log back in and a two finger tap will perform a right click.

 

Hey everyone!

I just got the Y580 and like it a lot so far.

I just have a couple of issues.

1) Glare. Ugh glossy.... I wish I still had my asus for only that reason...
Anyone have a recommendation for a matte cover that doesn't destroy the display quality?

2) The touchpad. Is it just me or is it really shoddy. Doesn't respond well to gestures etc?
Pinch to zoom is a huge pita...

3) Does anyone have any issues with the webcam? The resolution is pretty shoddy. Skyping with friends leads to pretty grainy images...

Also, has anyone had any experience getting the cheaper of the displays and upgrading it down the line? I have the better display, but I'm just curious. If that's an option, I might return this and get the cheaper one and buy an SSD and an HD matte screen replacement to get what I need and save some money too.

Thanks!

 

no. getting a cheaper screen and trying to upgrade is a hassle.

you have to wait till someone breaks their laptop, and then someone chops it up for parts.

factory does not sell the lcd cable directly to consumers.

 

I was looking at these:

IBM-Lenovo IDEAPAD Y580 replacement Laptop LCD Screen from $59.99 Brand-new screens (never used).

 

I ordered a matte screen protector, waiting for it to come in. I'll tell you if it's good. This review has praises for it though. ViewGuard Anti-Glare Matte Screen Protector Review

Seems like the easiest way to do deal with the glossy screen, plus it's cheaper than upgrading the screen.

 

Yeah! Please update this thread and/or send me a message once you have it. I really need one. Reading on the screen is a little hard for me.

 

Hey guys,

I'm getting the 209942U and it comes with the 1tb hd, the question is, does any Sata3 SSD would fit (to use both the HD and the SSD), or just a msata will fit?

What do you guys think about the Plextor 128GB M5S?
This one: Amazon.com: Plextor 128GB M5S Series Solid State Drive 2.5 PX-128M5S: Electronics

Thanks!

 

There are two Sata 3's, in the mSATA port and where the HDD is connected to. If you want a regular SSD then you'll have to replace the HDD with it. If you get an mSATA SSD, then it'll go into the mSATA port without having to replace anything.

 

Nowadays how is the performance and price difference between mSATA and regular SSD?

 

Performance is also identical according to the specs put up by websites (ie. Crucial's mSATA and regular SSD both list the same IOPS, read, and write speeds for their respective 256GB models). In reality, they maybe a bit slower but not noticeable at all. Both are 6GB/s.

Really in the end you're paying a higher price for the mSATA SSD due to it's smaller size.

 

Any recommendations on models?

Thanks again!

 

For mSATA I'd go for either the Crucial M4 series or the Mushkin Atlas series.

 

I couldn't find the touchpad settings on my computer. All the Synaptics applications in the Program Files folder don't respond when I click them. Where is the registry located? Also, I find it pretty annoying to use the loose right click and clicking 'open in new tab' for every page I want to open in a new tab. Is there a way to edit the registry so a certain gesture could open a link in a new tab?

 

I'm to check both!
Thanks again! :thumbsup:

 

Can you block optimus switching and play from HD4000 is you want ?

 

I noticed flash program operation errors that resulted in bad sectors on my Samsung 830. I didn't notice anything in Windows 7 (no BSODs, lockups, etc). I remember one hard lockup caused by a Steam game, but that didn't result in any SMART errors when I checked Crystaldiskinfo then. My SSD has been running well-within the manuf's specs (60C), as the highest I've seen it go is 50C on my Y580. I'll be keeping a lookout to see if the SMART data changes. The data below is from Samsung's SSD magician software. FYI, current values for the bolded are 99.

Model Name SAMSUNG SSD 830 Series
ID Description Raw
5 Reallocated Sector Count 4096
9 Power-on Hours 1542
12 Power-on Count 264
177 Wear Leveling Count 12
179 Used Reserved Block Count (total) 2
181 Program Fail Count (total) 1
182 Erase Fail Count (total) 0
183 Runtime Bad Count (total) 1
187 Uncorrectable Error Count 0
190 Airflow Temperature 36
195 ECC Error Rate 0
199 CRC Error Count 0
235 POR Recovery Count 6
241 Total LBAs Written 1867427921

 

From what I know, I don't think Optimus can be disabled. You could go to the Nvidia control panel though, go to global settings/preferences and set your preferred graphics card to the intel card.

Why though?? Haha the intel card is so much weaker.

 

sure you can block optimus.

first way is already mentioned, by using nvidia control panel.


2nd way is to disable dgpu in bios. if you select 'integrated', then the 660 won't turn on at all.

 

I used the BN discount link to get the y580. Pre tax the cost was 1029 for model with 1tb at 5400 and 32 gb msata or hybrid ssd. For that cost, jumping down to the lower model with 500gb at 7200, meant that I was saving less than 100 bucks, but had to buy and install an SSD.

For the same price, I would get an SSD twice as big but have to chase down that damn screw and install it myself, so I just opted for the one from them. Boot times and load times for things that I'm playing around with so far are damn fast. I do wish that I had a slightly bigger one. Is there any way to do this later? Is the SSD part of a hybrid drive or is it using the msata slot? Can it be removed and replaced at a later date?

 

Is there any way to set this up depending on battery power vs plugged in?

I'm probably never going to play a game without being plugged in, so disabling the GPU and using iGPU would help the battery life quite a bit. Can I do this in the NVDIA properties as well?

 

The SSD they give is in the mSATA slot so yes you can remove it and install your own. However they set it up as one virtual C drive using both the SSD and HDD so you have to separate the 2 drive first using the Lenovo Rapid Drive tool.

 

Eh. It's fast and works. I'm probably not going to do that for atleast another year, so I can revisit the idea when the prices of drives come down down down.

I'd love a 256 GB msata for running the OS and programs from. Leaving the 1TB drive for saving photographs and backup.

 

Yea that's smart, you can also see if there any problems with your computer before investing in a pricey SSD. Sometimes screen defects or chassis issues don't show up until a month in.

 

Hi. J'm going to buy this notebook but i can't make a decision which version i should take. At this moment i afford to the version with i5 CPU and i don't have enough money to buy the version with i7. I wonder if i can change the CPU in te future from i5 3210 to i7 3632qm Intel Core i7-3632QM Mobile processor - AW8063801152800
I would like to know if there is any posibility to make such a replacement. Will this i7 CPU wil be suitable to the motherboard on which have been placed the i5 from the beginning? Sory for my language, i'm from Poland.

 

Switching CPU's isn't really a good upgrade path on a laptop.

What kind of work are you going to be doing on it? An i5 is still blazing fast. Honestly, I don't think it'd be a bad option.

If you don't need the discrete GPU or such a high level of one, you might do better with something else that has an i7. Try lenovo's outlet store. They'll have last years models with the sandy bridge i7 for sale there!

 

Is it a defect if my eyes feel like bleeding when I try to read on this screen?

Hoping the guy that bought the matte cover chips in soon. I could really use it.

 

Lol that's me it should come by Wednesday.

 

I'm not a very demending user. I sometimes play multiplayer games such as BF3 or some strategy games such Total War. I've read that these games requires powerfull CPUs to run smoothly on High settings. So you think i should save some money and take the version with i7 or is there any other alternative for this notebook in this price?

 

I'm confused, do you want i7 or do you not want it? Most games can run on i5, it really is more dependent on your gpu. However with BF3, there is some reliance on CPU.

 

Windows registry can be found by running "regedit" in the start menu. be careful when you're in the registry especially if you aren't familiar with it since you can mess up your computer.

I uninstalled the Synaptics drivers that came preinstalled with the Y580 and installed the latest ones on the Synaptics website. After that, I looked for '3FingerTapAction' in the registry and modified the value to '4'. Log off and log back in and you'll now be able to perform a middle click, including being able to open new tabs in Chrome or Firefox by simply doing a 3 finger tap on a link.

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I wouldn't know. I can't really read my screen.

 

hi to all, how do i know if there is already a installed SSD on my y580, it does have a 32GB separate drive under my computer with all the drivers in it. Is it the SSD? But it only shows one hard drive on the Device Manager.

 

how do you have a separate drive ? lol Mine combines the drives:S This is honestly the first I've ever seen this other than raid.

To answer your question, yes it should be. If your not sure search google for this: HWiNFO32/64. It should tell if it is.

I think most likely it is

 

those matte screen films should be really cheap from china.
actually looks like a US seller is selling it for cheap too.


http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=15.6 screen protector&_sop=15


non adhesive and anti glare. Dunno how antiglare it is though.

the only problem i see is that dumb shipper might fold the film in half and create a permanent crease

 

Mine shows two drives as well. I have the SSD. It's called 'lenovo' and has a size of 24.4gb while the other drive has 973gb.

I'm surprised that the SSD is 24.4 when it's supposed to be 32. Seems like a bigger difference than usual due to the 1024 factor.

What do you currently have for a processor or whatnot?

 

There's a tool on the Lenovo website. It's explained here. http://78.9.150.202/pub/RapidDrive.pdf
Run it to separate the drives.

And also to answer the other question, advertised drives such as 32GB always have less than what they say due to formatting and what not. For example a typical 500GB drive has around 470-480GB normally.

 

Guys I think I just found a dead/gray pixle. It is really little and not in the middle of the screen or anything but still once you know its there it kind of bothers your...
Is there anyway to repair it or get it fixed without sending it back? Would the store even accept it back? Since I read that Lenovo's policy is that 3 or more pixles should be dead/gray for them to consider the display faulty...

PS: the pixle wont show on a red background... aslong as its red it seems to work...

Thanks for your answers and advice.

 

if it's stuck on red, you can probably use one of those rapidly flashing apps, and use your finger to massage the pixel area.

just google and you'll know what i mean


you will have to ask your store if they'll take it back.
i know when the thing is new, you get paranoid. But after 2 months, you don't care anymore.
I have dust on my screen that makes them look like hundreds of dead pixels. I really don't care much anymore.

 

@voozers

Does it benefit me if I keep it running together? I'm not sure if my real SSD is faster than the mSata 64 GB. I'd rather have them together if it means that it will be faster

 

You separate it and reinstall your OS onto your SSD as a boot drive and put a few programs on their (64GB is only big enough for a few). This will make boot times faster and any program you use from the SSD faster. The hard drive will just be storage rather than anything else for photos or documents. It'll show up as a secondary drive (Drive D).

If you keep them together then most of your files will be on your HDD with the SSD just speeding it up by caching (which is where your drives are combined right now). Boot times should almost be as fast as an SSD but just a little slower and only programs you use frequently will be cached (sped up for use). It's not as consistent speedwise as using it on the full SSD.

 

@link626
Hi, please is there any chance you could do the Clean Install guide? I'm gonna get the Y580 without SSD model, just like yours this weekend.
Thanks for the help!

 

Thanks for the info. What i did is i opened up the back of the y580 and look what i found NO SSD installed. I guess I have to buy one.

This is a gift by the way so no dissapointments.

 

It's better you didn't have an SSD, now you can get a much bigger one without the hassle of separating the drives.

 

Long time lurker since I started looking at the Y580. Placed the order on August 18th, and just received it on Monday (September 17th). Everyone still waiting on their order, just be patient, as it is well worth the wait! My unit was produced just 10 days before I laid my hands on it (9-7-12) and even my PSU and battery were created just last month! That is very cool to know just how new this unit really is.

Also, to the poster claiming they see the mSATA drive as separate and around 25GB named LENOVO, you are actually looking at the recovery partition and NOT the mSATA drive. On all Y580's, Lenovo has a recovery portion with drivers, programs, etc. and that is what you are looking at. The mSATA configurations use RapidDrive to purpose the mSATA as a cache for the main hard drive, and it becomes totally invisible to the user without further tinkering.

Note: I have the 7200rpm 500GB drive (no mSATA) and I possess the same 25GB-ish LENOVO partition, that is why I am so sure.

 

If i get consumer credit i'm getting mine tomorrow yay

 

Hi ridethecliche;

Your Lenovo (D) drive is not your mSATA, it's a partition of your HDD. If you bought your Y580 with the mSATA, your C: drive includes both the HDD and the mSATA. You can check this in the computer management window. In that window you'll see an error in which the mSATA is not present. It's a bug of the rapid drive technology. The rapid drive technology combines both the HDD and the mSATA into a "virtual"drive.

 

Hey now.

I got the SSD option. I end up with stuff just about as fast and with a way bigger drive (1tb vs 500gb). The cost difference was only like 80-90, which doesn't cover upgrading both the drives.

I'll probably end up getting a bigger ssd as prices fall anyway, so I'll likely be going through the hassle of separating things out and cursing at myself for it at some point.

If prices fall enough, moving to an 'all-ssd' device might be an option. I can put the HD into a case and call it external storage.

Oh what the hell. Hahaha.

Why two drives then? Is the 25gb one a recovery partition?