Y580 Owners Thread

Oh yea definitely, I just couldn't get the coupon code to work on the model with the 1080p display. But thanks for the Barnes and noble link!!

 

Lol just use the $450 off coupon and that's how it worked, but it only worked for that one specific model everything you saw was already preset

 

Judging the issue with the HDD getting hot, how noticeable or uncomfortable can this laptop get while gaming with it on your lap?

 

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Yes, it can be and will be. Without gaming it should be fine, especially in winter But I wouldn't use it without some kind of isolation. My wife is using this but it isn't enough for longer usage so I'll probably buy her laptop stand.

 

What do you mean by game proof? How long its relavant or how well it will last under the strain of heavy gaming? If either of those questions I would stay 2 or 3 years.
Regardless of how they are marketed, laptops really are not built for long lasting hardcore gaming. Heat is a laptops Achilles heel unfortunately.

 

I know about the hard-drive overheating issue, but how's the cooling of the system in general, especially under extreme tasks?

 

According to most here not stellar.

 

Ok, I was going to get a laptop cooler anyways. 2 or 3 seems fine to me, but i was actually saying how long the graphics card would last until technology would surpass it and it would not be able to play games.

 

I'm curious about this too. I ordered a dv6t but am seriously considering sending it back for this laptop if the cooling systems aren't very good on both systems. Thoughts?

 

I would say 2-3 years for current games. Maybe two on some ground breaking games.

I sent my Dv7 back because of extreme heat. The y580 sadly seems to have some serious heating issues.

I originally came here because my desktop crapped out after 7 years and I decided to look into laptops. Did not want to deal with multiple desktop wires anymore.
"Surely laptops have gotten better since 2008" (the year I bought my girlfriend hers)I thought. lol Boy was I wrong. After a few weeks of research I find that most if not all laptops still have heat issues with prolonged game play. Except for the processors and video cards, laptop tech has not improved much IMO.

So me personally am thinking of just getting another desktop. I figure I can get better tech(especially cooling) better durability for the same price and I am only giving up portability with the laptop.(dealing with desktop wires no longer seems a horrible thing after all the research I have done the last few weeks in regards to laptops) Plus not to mention all the upgrades one can do, stuff you can STILL not do with a laptop.

All that said I am not telling you to not get a y580 or any other laptop. I am still looking for either a tablet or decent cheap laptop for out of the house use. Leaning towards the tablet though, after using my girlfriends old laptop as a temporary computer the last few weeks, it seems to freeze up after being on to long, due to heat, with just web browsing.

My advice: Just keep researching. This forum and others are great tools for that. Consider other options if you want to do some mid to hardcore gaming. All options will have their pros and cons.

Interestingly enough, this sites Desktop sister site gets very little traffic.(which I am sure is due to the laptops popularity) I had to rely on articles reviews on merchant sites and some builder sites to get desktop info. But one thing I see over and over again on those sites. Desktops are much better for heavy workloads. (gaming) Laptops just do not seem to cut it yet.

Perhaps one day someone will come up with a laptop version of liquid cooling. That may solve the laptops biggest con.

 

Thanks for the response. I agree completely, but for the time being I need a laptop for school. How much better/worse would you say the cooling issues are for the y580 than the dv6t? I read about the WASD keys getting extremely hot while gaming... as far as I know, the only problem with the y580 is hard drive heat.

 

Well if I had to choose between those two I would say the Y580 is better also. Like the dv6 the dv7 also got extremely hot on the wasd keys.

Another thing you can look into...from what I have read so far the lenovo thinkpads seems to do real well with heat dissipation. The prices are cheaper, they are built very durable and have extremely long battery lives. They can do light gaming.(not much newer stuff)
But if I was still in college I would definitely consider one. In fact its the brand I am considering over the tablet.

 

I just purchased a Y580 for my sister, and it seems to have a nasty problem. There are multi-colored artifacts in 3D programs (most notably 3DMark11 and Unigine 3.0) running on the 660m. Has anyone had a similar issue? I plan to upgrade the drivers to 304.48, but this seems like a hardware flaw.

If I have to send this back to Lenovo, I will be getting my money back, not a replacement.

 

I haven't had any heat issues besides the hard drive getting a bit warm. Other than that, sometimes it just sits there quietly as I type away. I played D3 on my lap once and it was fine.

 

Hello owners of the Y580...

I am seriously considering pulling the trigger on this laptop here in the UK (but for 999 pounds which is 1566 dollars lol), but I want to know a few things first.

1. How is it's build quality overall? I am concerned, because I am going to start college, and I need it to last me around 4-5 years.

I have also heard bad things about the HDD overheating.
2. How much of a problem is this likely to be?

I have never bought Lenovo before, only HP and Asus and Toshiba. I love the spec of this laptop, but I would rather get something less powerful with better build quality, if this is TOO bad.

Any advice is appreciated, thanks in advance!

EDIT: Sorry for cross posting this here, but I need advice ASAP.

 

Something less powerful with better build quality? What about the Asus N56VZ (15 Zoll) or N76VZ (17 Zoll)?

 

Thanks for the reply,

The N56VZ is not available in the UK yet, and I am looking for a 15.6 inch notebook, as I will lug it around college.

 

Err, well, laptops are already liquid cooled. The heat pipes are based on phase change, so there's liquid and gas circulating inside them.

Anyway, depending on the way you look at it, notebooks have indeed improved. You can find performance from 5 years ago in much cooler and smaller packages, so there's your improvement. The quad core A9 CPUs in tablets are already shown to match first generation Core Duo performance, in a very very low power package.

Every new CPU or GPU release, we always see an improvement in performance to power consumption (and by extension, temperature).

However, if you want high-end present day performance, you'll have to put up with the heat. Manufacturers will always be pushing the thermal limit, which, for the sake of discussion, let's say it's about 100W. Then the manufacturers will have certain models for sale that will make use of the entire 100W, with whatever computational power that 100W can deliver using up-to-date technology. And they will do this because people will want the best performance that can be obtained using 100W. So it's not that technology hasn't improved - computational power per watt has been improving exponentially.

 

Anyone getting purple with R:0, G:0, B:255? Any ideas to fix it under intel's color enhancement?

 

How do you owners deal with the 1080p resolution on a 15” laptop? I examined a 1080p 17” at an electronics store recently and noted that Windows 7’s text was scaled to 125%. After changing the text back to 100%, I found the script to be readable, but eye straining and very small.

 

I had to change text to medium (125%). And this is normal if you have small area with high density.

 

I need help playing Blu_rays..it just won't work!

I tried playing Red Tails and I always get errors

 

I would love some input on the battery life. Is it the same 62Wh battery from the Y570? How much battery life can one expect with light usage?

Also, does the laptop overheat at all when playing games like Battlefield 3?

And the mSATA is confirmed to be SATA 3 right?

 

How is the color reproduction in the FHD screen? I had noticed one user here saying the blues had a purplish tint.

I would buy the HP dv6t instead if the Lenovo FHD screen has this flaw.

 

I was an owner of the new dv6 for a little while, and i gotta say it was one of the best screens ive every seen. Its antiglare but colors are extremely bright and do not look grainy at all. All the colors seemed accurate to me, but the reds had a very slight orange tint. Not nearly as bad as the old envy's but its still noticeable if you compare with another screen. I think unlesss you do professional photoshop stuff then it really isnt an issue at all.

I will say the the heat in the left palmrest when gaming on dv6 is alittle uncomfortable, but not unbearable (at least when having the 6 cell battery inside it, the 9 cell makes the palm rest much hotter). If your not gaming then completely disregard that part and i would highly recommend the dv6. I cant speak for the heat on the y580 since i dont own one, but it sounds like its having heat issues aswell.

One more thing about the dv6 is that it does not have a premium feel to it. The laptop is sturdy and all, but there are some slight visual build flaws that might bother people.

 

Thanks for your feedback on the dv6t. I am not into gaming, so heat shouldn't be an issue for me.

 

Just ordered an Envy 17..for 5 dollars cheaper. It was a good run with the Y580. Solid laptop!

I fell in love with it after I played with it at the Windows Store. Very nice..

I will be comparing the gaming quality on both and then see which I like better. I've finally narrowed it down!

 

I returned my dv6 because the bottom portion of the bezel separated from the screen, hardly a minor cosmetic concern on a brand new laptop. There was a yawning gap that greets me whenever I lift the screen. There were other niggling build quality issues I reported but they were livable. I sent my dv6 back to get the bezel problem fixed but HP's service center dithered, momentarily lost my laptop and then shipped it back to me after 2.5 weeks in the shop. When I opened up the return box, I discovered that HP neglected to fix the bezel issue that I so clearly indicated to them was my number one concern. Rather than hop on the HP service merry-go-round, I returned my dv6 for a full refund and went to my nearest Frys to pick up a Y580. Mind you, my dv6 was among those in the initial production run and it seems that later buyers are not experiencing similar build quality issues that I did.

So far, my Y580 runs cooler than the dv6 in gaming scenarios. The palm rests are definitely cooler on the Y580. In contrast, the dv6 HDD runs cooler than Y580's HDD out-of-the-box. However, after moving the Y580's HDD to the ODD and placing an SSD in the HDD bay, the temps among storage drives between the two laptops are the same. I also liked the fact that the Insyde BIOS on the Y580 has more options than the version HP uses on the dv6. You can actually see that AHCI is set in the Y580 even though it should be default in new laptops, even the dv6. I added this last line because I recall someone in the HP Pavilion thread complaining that his dv6 saw his SSD as SATA II and not SATA III.

Also, some of the internals in the Y580 are more accessible than the dv6. dv6 owners have to remove the keyboard to access the mSATA slot. The same slot is easily accessible under the Y580's main cover.

Now finally the screens. I liked the dv6 screen more because I am more partial to matte screens rather than glossy ones. The colors were fairly accurate save for the red-orange hue sometimes. The y580 FHD glossy screen is really nice as well but it does not have the same viewing angles as the dv6 screen. Color accuracy is fine except for elemental blue (RGB: 0, 0, 255), which shades over to blue-violet.

TL;DR: Build quality is better on the Y580 than dv6. Both screens have their issues although I liked dv6 more b/c of a personal preference to matte. Both laptops have their heat issues: Y580's are correctable by moving the HDD; dv6's are correctable by covering the bottom fan vent.

 

Then i would defiantly get the Dv6 with a 33% coupon when available. The price performance ratio is just really good, it works great for everything but gaming (heat is its only downfall), so i would defiantly recommend it.

 

Yes i forgot about the dv6 viewing angles, its almost ips viewing angle quality. But that's interesting about the bezzel, my laptop was good except the OOD wasn't exactly flush A something everyone had, but i cant call a problem because it wasnt very noticeable and didn't effect the OOD performance. Also the speaker cover was had a slight bent mark in the middle but not that big of a deal. I would still recommend it for multimedia use because of the screen.

 

Yeah, the bezel problem seemed to be confined with the initial production run, of which mine was a part. Like yours, my ODD faceplate was slightly bent. Other minor issues include a slight bent in the speaker grill at one point allowing one to pop it out with a flathead screwdriver and an unnoticeably slight bump in the keyboard. These were slight cosmetic imperfections that didn't sway me to return the dv6. Luckily, the Y580 I received seems to be built solidly all-around. I forgot to add that I do feel the dv6 keyboard exhibit less flex than the one found on the Y580. Both are not as bad as the Sandy Bridge HP Envy with respect to flex. Now that one was a trampoline.

 

Hello Y580 Owners,
A friend of mine bought this notebook and told me that it gets very noisy even on low temperatures (<50°C)
-is this normal?
-are there any fan control programs? i heard lenovo discourages fan-control for warranty reasons but turning the fan down when below 50 degree could do no harm.

thanks, in advance

 

I don't think y580 is very noisy. I would say that when using for internet, mail etc., it's rather quiet. So there are to options here: either your friend has very good hearing or there is some malfunction.
I wouldn't suggest using fan-control soft for notebook. Cooling in notebooks is mostly made almost without tolerance to keep dimensions at minimum.

 

Mine barely gets noisy when idle..the fan will kick in when playing D3 but not loud as my previous m14x

 

I have to add to the chorus and say that my Y580 is whisper quiet when browsing the internet. Yeah, the fan kicks in when gaming but it isn't noisy by any stretch of the imagination.

 

With the current Sale going on,i AM getting the 500gb 7200rpm/1920x1080 FHD screen for 936$ without tax whereas the HP dv6 is only available with a 400$ discount which brings the price to 1024$ (this is with FHD screen,650m 1gb,1tb +32gb mssd cache)
apart from the HDD the y580 seems to have the better config in terms of the gfx card while everything else is the same..
with the ~100$ difference in price due to this sale + the better gfx car,i'm tempted to go for the y580 but am getting scared due to HDD overheating issue.
What do u guys say?i go with the y580 or buy the hp ?

 

This whole "overheating issue" is ridiculous. There is no issue. One person shouts fire and everyone else starts running before actually looking.

I know people on an Internet forum are the ones who tend to care about every little thing, but don't make an issue out of nothing.

When there are reported cases of hard drive failure then we can start discussing this as an actual problem. I have a terrible old toshiba lying around and its hdd would idle between 45 and 50 degrees and it's been running strong for almost 4 years now.

If you are that worried, use a laptop cooler. I use a Notepal U2 and my hard drive idles at 37 degrees and never goes higher than 50 after gaming for an extended period of time. People are really blowing this thing out of proportion. Relax.

As far as fans noise is concerned, it's almost non existent.

 

The HP has the matte FHD screen and the Lenovo has the glossy FHD screen. If you want to game most of the time, go with the Lenovo. The glossy screen might get annoying if there is a bright light source behind the screen.

I have heard people saying that the Y580 has a better build quality than the dv6t, but it's a bit heavier too. I am also contemplating on buying either one of them.

 

I second that. Though I haven't got my hands on the Y580 yet (order is still processing), I do know that my current HP G60's HDD is regularly at around 50C, just through simple tasks like web-browsing (the cooling system on this model is generally pretty bad). I've been using it for 3 and a half years now with no problems (aside from it overheating obviously).

 

Does anyone know Lenovo's return policy? My dv6t came with a faulty backlit keyboard and so I sent it in for repairs, but apparently it's going to take 3 and a half weeks to fix a frickin light in the keyboard. I may order a Y580 and then compare the two.

I know HP has a 21 day no-questions asked return policy. Does Lenovo have something like that?

 

The heating does scare me a bit. What are the chance when i am in my senior year 4 years from now and about to turn in something rather big and my hdd fails because it has been overheating? Usually i would have it on a usb but i am not always that smart

 

That seems like a possible problem with any computer that can only be solved through diligence.

 

Online backups through dropbox/google drive.

 

That would only work for some small files. Try to backup projects where each can have like 100MB
And I would never use things like cloud to put there some sensitive data.
Best/easiest way to do backup is USB drive.
You can always do like do - backups on local server where I have much more space then on my desktop or laptop. I have web access to it if I need to backup something that isn't to big or if I need to download something. But that's more complicated.

 

Sorry for bothering you Guys, i found the source of the noise in her Y580:
-she left a CD in the drive -.-

thanks anyway

 

Hello y580 owners,

I recently got my y580, but unfortunately I picked the one without mSata drive. What I am planning to do is to get 60gb mSata drive and connect it myself. Now the question is, how to get RapidDrive working, as I would like to use the SSD as a cache. I am expecting 3 possible scenarios, but if anyone already went throuh this exercise, I would like to get more info.

1/ plug-in mSata, install RapidDrive driver, reboot, done
- chances: not likely

2/ plug-in mSata, run system recovery to get computer to factory settings
- chaces: quite high, backup needed, not much work needed

3/ Plug-in mSata, disconnect 5400rpm drive. Install plain windows on ssd. Connect main hdd. Delete old system partition on original drive and merge drives using RapidDrive.
- chaces: quite high, but pain in the *** process to get it working. One key recovery will be probably gone

Thanks a lot in advance for bringing more light into this.

 

I'm wondering about this myself because I get my mSATA SDD tomorrow to exactly same purpose.
But from what I understand you need to just place it in slot and configure as RAID (not sure how) and have Intel..something...installed where all the configuration is being done.

 

Is the mSATA cache drive that effective? I'm about to purchase the 500 GB 7200rpm model without the mSATA SSD because it is the cheapest on sale...

 

Where are you getting the $936 price, I show it as $999 for the model with the 7200 rpm HD and FHD screen. Are you talking about the 1366x768 screen?