***Yoga 2 Pro Owners Thread***

This should be the end of "OMG, my yellow is off!" discussion. Just my 2cts.

 

Does anyone have an idea on when the resolution problems--certain icons being too small--will be fixed? Or if it will be at all?

 

That's the mode I was in last night when it fixed it for me. Will try again tonight after a bunch of reboots to see what I get.

 

It's a software problem - you'll have to wait for each software manufacturer to implement an update which handles super resolution screens.

 

Since sleep mode is not off, it is still running but at a much lower power and therefore still needs air circulation. By putting it in the sleeve there was no air circulation so the fans kicked on to try to cool it off but they could not get cool air either. So it was running fans at highest speed possible to try to cool it down but could not. If you are going to put it in a sleeve or something where it can't get air circulation I think you need to shut it down. Just my 2 cents.

Shutdown and startup on this little beauty are so quick that I don't think the 8-10 seconds it takes for either are too bad. I know my Toshiba used to take 30 minutes to start up and 10 to shut down. A new SSD fixed that but I had already moved on :thumbsup:

 

Is this something that software manages will do? Or is the market of such high resolution screens to small for them to care?

 

Hmm....That probably is it, but that has never happened to me with a laptop before.
I like to put it in sleep not for the wake up time, but just so I don't have to reopen stuff

 

I agree, I prefer to leave my programs open if I can and use sleep mode. When you put your laptop in the sleeve, put it so the fans are toward the zipper and leave it partially unzipped if you can so it can get some air. That was just my guess at what might have happened. I've been wrong before.

 

Is there a way to disable the trackpad in tablet and stand mode? I downloaded the Yoga 13 drivers so I could have proper 2 finger scroll, and I thought they also disabled the trackpad, but the trackpad remains active when in tablet and stand.

 

I think higher resolution displays will be the norm. Look at how 4k video is already catching on. As more and more high res screens come out the software writers will have to support them or lose sales. I would suggest that everyone who buys a high res screen, whether on a laptop like the Y2P or a desktop display, sends e-mails to the manufacturers of any software they find that doesn't support the higher resolution. Only if people complain will change come.

It may not happen overnight but I'm sure it will happen.

 

I have mine set to hibernate when I close the lid. Takes a few seconds to hibernate, and a few seconds to come back on. This way, it turns completely off, but I keep my windows just how they were.

 

Folks,

Well, let me tell you a little story about the Lenovo Yoga Pro 2......

I saw the i5 / 4GB RAM / 128GB SSD model on display at my local Best Buy one day. "Not in stock" they say, but a truck is coming tomorrow.

Tomorrow comes, and I'm back at Best Buy after work, checking the display model to see if I really want the thing. Yes, I do, and I manage to get the droids to actually grab one off the truck and sell it to me.

Ever since, though, gosh, oh how I wish I had more, more, more -- i7, 8GB of RAM, and a whole lot more room than 128GB. Best Buy has the higher model on display, but never in stock. And the stories here sound like if you order one from Lenovo, you might get one in time for Memorial Day, next year. No, I don't want to wait a week, a month, several months, half a year, or whatever it'll take to actually get one shipped to me.

So, ever the impatient guy, I start looking at other things. The other day I happened upon a Dell 14-incher that was pretty nice, with i7, 8GB, and a 500GB hard drive. Hard drives are fine with me -- I'll trade "instant bootup" for a whole bunch of disk space, thank you very much. So, I take one home. It is a pretty neat machine, with what I understand is supposed to be an IPS screen, which is the Most Important Number One thing I want in any notebook.

But, that screen is STINKING AWFUL! Actually, straight on, it's not bad at all -- color seems to be OK, and it certainly has the kind of image quality I expect from an IPS screen. But, I happened to drop something on the floor right in front of it, and while I'm head bobbing up and down, the screen does the kind of TN shadow dance that I'm always trying to avoid! So, I did some checking, and no doubt about it -- the screen DARKENS SUBSTANTIALLY any time you're just a tiny bit away from the "sweet spot" right in front of your face. It's absolutely like a TN screen, where you see a dark veil just wash over the screen as you move off-axis. What the heck???

At this point, I'm thinking that it's just not an IPS screen at all, but it certainly doesn't "wash out" when you go off-axis -- you just get that enormous, enormous "shadow" or "veil" of darkness as you move away from a straight-on view of the screen. But, apparently it is some kind of new-generation, cheap-awful "IPS" in name only screen. My Y2P absolutely SLAYED it when I put it next to the Dell.

Well, unfortunately, I had some issue with the initial round of Windows Updates with the Dell -- just no way, no how, could I get the Windows Update process to complete. So, you know, "You guys can have this one back," and so I returned it to Best Buy. And while they were doing whatever it is they do for a half-hour when you return something, I ran around the notebook section looking for something bigger and better. And so, I wound up exchanging it for a Sony Fit 15A -- 15-inch IPS screen, i7, 8GB RAM, 1TB +16GB SSD drives, and a relative copy of the Yoga hinge. So, with a bigger hole in my pocket to move up to the Sony, I took that thing home.

So, GUESS WHAT?? Here is ANOTHER wonky "IPS" screen with the "TN shadows" similar to the Dell screen. It's not nearly as bad, and the overall screen quality is easily better than the Dell screen, but it definitely goes significantly dark when you move off-screen. It's really the very same kind of off-axis nonsense that I buy an IPS screen to AVOID. Otherwise, though, the Sony is OK enough to keep, and it's the kind of "bigger iron" that I've wanted, to do heavy lifting alongside my desktop machine.

In the end, my initial intent was to return the Y2P in favor of one of these bigger, more powerful things, but trying these other things SURE MADE ME APPRECIATE WHAT I HAD with the Y2P and its most excellent, excellent, excellent screen. Whine about the colors if you must, but go try anything else, and you may wind up with one of these "Rubbish IPS" screens that I've just encountered.

And I'll definitely keep my little Y2P, with its wimpy little i5 and 128GB SSD. It'll suffice for a more portable machine, and I absolutely LOVE its far above-average screen quality. And I hope I might have helped some of you appreciate your Y2P machines just a little bit more than you've done before.

thoots

 

Love the "little" story thoots. You know you could upgrade that 128 gb msata ssd to 256 gb for a couple hundred dollars and still probably have spent less than either of those other 2 models you tried out. It might just put you a little closer to Y2P heaven. I originally had the Samsung ATIV Book 9 Plus but then I tried the Y2P and sold the AB9+ to another forum user. Now the AB9+ with i7/8gb/256g is coming out and it is $1800 And it doesn't even flip into the other 3 modes. The Y2P is such the better deal!

 

Sorry if this have been covered before, but if somebody could please answer, a simple yes or no will be enough.

After updating the Bios and the EM to fix the color, is it a way to undo those updates, is it possible to revert things to the way they were before? Thanks in advance.

 

Facepalm! Sometimes it just takes a good slap upside the head. Hibernate does not appear in my power options and I totally forgot about it - I've activated it now. Thanks Zicher!

 

New review out
Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro Review - Ultrabook and Windows 8 Convertible Reviews by MobileTechReview

Battery life pretty average, internal fans look quite cheap/poor with no copper cooling visible and single band wifi.

 

Yet another review -

Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 2 Pro review | PC Pro

 

Or use hibernate instead of sleep?

 

For my money, Mobile tech review does the best reviews out there. I pretty much agree with everything that Lisa said.

 

That is what happened to me: I went looking for another PC when I returned my Yoga, but then realized that the screen on the Yoga is something astonishing that you cannot get at the price point from anywhere else! My Clementine I7 256/8GB baby should be in my hands tomorrow and I'm not looking back!

 

I can pretty easily get 6 hours in Daily mode if I am not watching videos, and I can hit 5 with no problem when I am. The battery life has not been a problem for me at all.

 

I ordered the Clementine/i7/8GB/256GB on Monday 11/18 with full expectation of shipping at the end of the year (according to the Lenovo site). As it turns out, my Yoga2Pro is on the UPS truck on its way for delivery to my hot little hands tomorrow. Lenovo's inventory control tracking system seems to need some work...there is a big difference between six weeks (original estimate) and the actual three days. Not that I am complaining!

 

anybody have issues with cpu clock speed stuck at .77ghz on battery no matter what power profile until a restart.

 

Check that your power profile advanced options "max cpu on battery" isn't at like 30%?

 

Hello,

Can someone who bought the laptop from Germany tell me if the keyboard is in German or English?
I'm interested in buying it from amazon.de, but I want a keyboard in English (no Umlaute or other changed keys).
If Windows is in German I presume I can install a language pack and it will be OK.

Thanks

 

Bought mine from Amazon.de about two weeks ago and it definitely comes with a German keyboard. I think you will encounter some problems trying to get your hands on an English keyboard version here in Germany. I'd suggest try ordering it from Amazon UK
Switching languages isn't a problem at all in Windows 8 anymore .

 

OK, then I wait until it becomes available in Romania too, on Amazon UK the i7/8GB model is not available.

 

That is similar to all the other estimates that have been posted in different forums.

Thank you for responding!

 

So tell me, are you going to buy it? I hope you say yes since you know so much about this laptop!

 

Almost made the error a week ago . I'm in France and the Y2P is 100€ cheaper in Germany and available while in France we won't get it before the end of the month. Just before the last click I realized it'd come with the QWERTZ keyboard, impossible to use in France...

Now I'm counting days....

 

Well, guess what!

According to UPS tracking info, my brand new i7 / 4GB RAM / 256GB SSD silver/grey Y2P will arrive any time today.

So thank you very much to you and everybody else that have posted so much needed an helpful information. That really made a huge difference in my decision processes.

Your help is very much appreciated!

Thank again everybody!!!:thumbsup:

 

Bummer, the estimated ship date for Y2P is more than four weeks while for Thinkpad Yoga is 11/29/13. That makes thinkpad yoga enticing

 

It happens to me if my USB wireless mouse accidentally turns on in the bag. I changed the setting in mouse > settngs > power management to not wake up the computer.

 

I'm glad we could help! I think that this IS the best laptop for 2013 by far! will there be something better and probably less expensive in the future? of course! I'm also currently waiting for my I7 clementine version, which is on the UPS truck right now, and it's my day off too! Enjoy!

 

same thing with every power profile option. only way is the restart but after awhile it'll do it again presumebly after it wakes from sleep or the screen goes off. doesnt happen on a/c though. i was using it in tent mode. maybe i will try laptop mode and see what happens.

 

Thanks, enjoy yours too!

On a different note, I know this have been asked before, but I have not seen an answer:
Does anybody knows if there is a way to reverse the BIOS and Energy Manager updates?

Thanks

 

You can simply uninstall EM and install the old version. You cannot reverse the BIOS at this time and probably never, but that shouldn't be a concern.

 

So do you suggest that i install the BIOS update as soon as I get it? From what I have seen it doesn't impact battery life or anything else and just gives you a better Yellow (from what I have gathered).

 

I'm still waiting for my Y2P to come back from Lenovo's repair facility, but unless they did the BIOS for me while they did the repairs I'm going to skip it. I know this isn't the same for everyone, but I honestly wish I had never heard of the "Yellow" issue because I may not have ever noticed it. With reports of increased fan activity and noise, and possibly battery hits, I think I may just hold off on the BIOS for now.

 

That would be my "recommendation". I do not believe that the yellows are affected without the EM since you don't see the change until it loads. I really don't think the new EM affects battery life, but that is just my impression. It is very hard to gauge as the estimate changes often due to recent use, so you never truly get a full estimate. You could if you sat there and browsed constantly for 5 or 6 hours or put on a 6 hour youtube, but I'm not going to do that LOL. Maybe somebody else will

 

Quick question..

How long does the BIOS update take? I'm on my lunch hour and need to get back to work. Thanks.

 

That is true, there's barely enough time in the day to do the normal worldly stuff. It's funny that people actually think that the Y2P battery life stinks, but they have such a short memory span, because until recently, laptops with 3hr battery life were considered great!

 

Took me 5 minutes I think. Very quick.

 

I must have gotten the magical Y2P. Yellow looks like yellow, battery life is about what I would expect with this extreme resolution, light bleed is minimal, fans are almost silent and wifi has been immaculate from the start.

 

There's at least two in the wild

 

somebody posted this in another forum:

"After the BIOS update, the brightness levels (measured by NITS), have changed in the brightness gauge. You will still have approx 350 nits @ 100% brightness, but if you have been used to setting your brightness at a specific %, you are getting a different brightness level, you would simply have to adjust the % to get the same "nits" your eyes are comfortable at.)"

I don't know if this person actually measured NITS, but before his/her post, others also reported the screen being dimmer and having some flickering after the bios and EM updates. There was a suggestion that by turning off adaptive brightness this issues would get resolve, but it does not look that it works for everybody.

Led Zappa, do you think that the issues known so far are caused only by the EM update, and that installing the BIOS wont have any negative effect?

Additionally it seems that the new BIOS need to work together with the EM to "improve" the color. If that is the case, what would be the benefit of installing the BIOS without updating the EM?

 

I'm less concerned about the screen brightness as I rarely took it above 40% anyway. But I do not want increased fan activity. I was always super impressed by how quiet and cool my Y2P was and if the BIOS effs that up I won't be happy.

 

What issues are those? I don't have any. People come to the internet to complain far more often than to praise a piece of tech. People saying it's dimmer or fan noise are one offs and probably have nothing to do with the update other than it was noticed after the update. There was likely something wrong with the unit to begin with that the update emphasized. Better to find out now than later IMHO.

On the BIOS, why not? There's always a chance that they will update it for another reason and it will incorporate both changes. I don't see a down side in updating the BIOS. Then you can try the new EM and if you don't like it then uninstall it and install the old one.

 

I have heard that the BIOS improves a few things (subjective, of course). For example, previously if you took the brightness down to 0% it would turn off the screen completely (inducing a few second of panic if you weren't expecting it). The new BIOS prevents that from happening. I feel like there were a couple of other items but don't recall at the moment.

 

I don't have a problem with the brightness in that regard either, but if it is true that after the updates you get less nits per percentage, that looks like Lenovo is trying to pull a fast one on us, I don't think that changing the algorithm has anything to do with improving color rendering.