***Yoga 2 Pro Owners Thread***

Isn't the Thinkpad Yoga quite a bit more expensive than the Y2P normally? The i7 versus i5 thing will make a small difference in your processing tasks, but probably only about 10-20%; there's not a very big performance difference between the ULV i5's and i7's.

The Thinkpad Yoga has its benefits, including better build quality, digitizer, and a few smart design ideas like the keyboard becoming flat when in tablet mode. It's also heavier and the screen is far inferior. Personally, even at the same price, I wouldn't have taken the Thinkpad Yoga over the Y2P unless it were packing the same screen (with or without the digitizer), but it depends whether you think the business-class benefits and digitizer pay over the better screen and lighter weight of the consumer machine.

 

mate, give chrome canary a go. its fast stable and handles scaling well. its my default browser now on my yoga 2 pro

 

For some reason its the other Way Around in germany - the tpy i7/8/256 is 1350-1400, wheas the y2p with the same Specs is 1600 (1300 with the i5 cpu)

I see, i am not to excited about the pen tbh but the fact that the tpy should be tougher to Break is appealing. On the other Hand the extra weight is also kind of not so Great
Well Ill probably go to store this week to check them both out in rl, But so far i think the y2p is probably better suited for me, Tranks!

 

-facepalm- -headdesk-

Do you SAY anything else? Your last 3 posts have been practically identical. We already said it doesn't handle scaling well.

 

While 1600x900 is the proper downwards scaling (resolution-wise), scaling everything down by a factor of 2, the display pixel density basically drops down by a factor of 2. There is no hardware/software interpolation of the display objects that you get in a 3200x1800 display with 200% scaling.

At 1600x900, the system simply works with that resolution and it is not aware of the true capability of the display.

I have also tested 1600x900 and it is acceptable (remember that we're talking LCD displays and not CRTs), given the limits of the "non-native" resolution. I'm also fairly certain that there is also a speed gain from manipulating 4x fewer pixels. There were also some glitches that were not present at 100% scaling (such as BgInfo not working properly at the native res with 200% scaling.)

Hope this helps a bit.

 

Has anyone had an issue with the m-factors card not having the wifi adapter show up in devices?

I finally got this card this week. Installed it without a problem and all that shows up in the devices is Bluetooth. Super strange. I installed the latest intel drivers, seated and reseated the card, made sure the wires were attached and nothing.

Going back to the old card works fine.

Super strange. I've reported the issue to m-factors, but wanted to ask this group if they've had similar issues.

 

I used the same recipe as you (M-factors and all) and I had no issues... even the original drivers had no problems detecting wireless and bluetooth.

 

As of today, do we have any reliable benchmark results for games like League of legend or Dota 2?

Thanks in advance!

 

Ordered mine yesterday, shipped today, est delivery in 2 days (Thursday) :thumbsup:
Orange, i7, 8GB, 256 GB

 

I'll be playing the Elder Scrolls Online beta this weekend, which is pretty heavy graphics wise. If there's anything specific you want me to try out, let me know! I ran it on my y2p last beta and it worked great! (I have the i7, 8gb, 512 winPro vesion)

 

Thought I would post an update to my problem. I ended up just taking the bottom cover off and re-screwing the touchpad screws. Worked out perfectly, no more loose touchpad, easy fix.

 

I have Y2P with 4gb RAM, 256GB SSD on the i7. Everything works fine (wireless card has no problems), but I have an opportunity to upgrade to the same machine only with 8GB of RAM for another $150, but it would be a gamble as it's refurbished and may not work perfectly like my current one in hand does. Should I risk the upgrade to 8GB for another $150?

I don't game or edit video. Just a lot of browsing and music playing.

 

Does Windows 8 find the drivers automatically after you install the card? Or do you have to go to the intel site to get the right drivers?

 

If you're experiencing low-memory issues, it might be worth it, but otherwise I'd say $150 is pretty steep for a 4GB RAM upgrade, especially as you're going from a known quantity (a Y2P that performs well) to an unknown quantity (especially since refurb may have issues or at least a shorter warranty).

An alternative to get some more memory is to enable a pagefile if you don't do so already. It ties up some of your SSD and the paging memory runs at SSD speed instead of the much-faster RAM speed, but it's a functional solution to any low-memory issues you may be experiencing, and really should be enabled by default on a 4GB system these days, if it isn't.

 

The word on these forums is that the same drivers work for the new card discussed here.

However if you purchase a different network card that needs new drivers, you should get these drivers before you disconnect the old network adapter. Unless you have some other way to get online (with an already working USB network adapter, for instance).

 

I have found a good solution for the touchpad issues many people have been having! I have seen solutions for the scrolling and for the 2 finger tap, but never at the same time and in a way that didn't involve installing the generic Synaptics driver which prevents the touchpad from turning off in tablet mode. Doing the following will allow you to have two finger scrolling reverse or normal, and optional 2 finger tap to right click (or middle click if you want) and still have the touchpad automatically disable itself when not in laptop mode:

Download the Lenovo touchpad driver for the Yoga 13. You read that right, not the Yoga 2 Pro, but the Yoga 13. Here's the direct link to the download (Win 8.1 64 bit). In case the link goes down, here is the same file rehosted on my own MEGA account. I'd prefer you don't use my MEGA link unless the other one is broken.

Now, you can go to the Windows mouse settings > Device Settings tab > Settings... > Multifinger tab > uncheck Reverse scrolling direction. That should fix the scrolling issue.

Next, open regedit and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Synaptics\SynTP\TouchPadPS2 and find the entry titled " 2FingerTapAction" and change it's value to 2 for right click, or 3 for middle click. While you're there, you can also change " 3FingerTapAction" to have right click or middle click as well. There are many more settings here you can poke around with, but if you're going to experiment, BACK UP THE REGISTRY KEYS FIRST.

If you don't want to open regedit.exe and do it yourself, make a new file called "enable2FingerTap.reg" and give it the following text:

Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Synaptics\SynTP\TouchPadPS2]
"2FingerTapAction"=dword:00000002

Then save it and double click it and click Yes when prompted.

Here is a download for that reg file if you're lazy.

Also, In case you screw up your settings without backing them up like I told you to, here is a complete backup of my settings. They may not be the defaults, but they are fully functioning with nothing strange.

EDIT: You will need to restart the Synaptics programs for the settings to take effect! So kill them and restart them. Or just restart your computer.

 

FYI you can change the scrolling with the yoga 2 pro drivers too. I changed both registry settings and my touchpad has been working great with 2 finger tap and reversed scrolling!

This is directly from the Yoga 2 pro faqs thread, kudos to user tocirahl.

"The second method is to use the Yoga 2 Pro drivers and simply make a small registry change:
Go to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Synaptics\SynTPCpl\Controls\2MultiFinger\NestedPropertySheet\1TwoFingers\ReverseScrollCheckBox
And change Visibility from 4 to 0.

Alternatively, the key may be called "Transparent", in which case you should change it from 1 to 0.

Similarly, the reverse scrolling direction option should appear in your Synaptics Control Panel."



Actually, its worth it for people to give this a read if you haven't already, some really good info in there.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/742574-yoga-2-pro-faqs.html


Cheers,

Dan


Edit: I appreciate the above post nonetheless, thanks Decapitated Chicken (sweet name haha)! The community here is awesome and very helpful!

 

my Y2P isnt recognizing the battery. The only way to keep it on is to have the power cord in. Has this happened to anyone? I tried searching for battery issues but all I got was 900 comments asking how long the battery typically lasts (as if there is one correct answer to fit all scenarios).

 

Can you download veriface if you already uninstalled from the computer?

May someone upload the raw VeriFace folder in a zip file of their current yoga VeriFace installation?

You can use sendspace.com, to upload the file.

Thanks in advance.

 

Hasn't happened to me on my y2p (my old dell xps m1550 has been like that since about a year after I bought it, I used it as a desktop then)

Some things to maybe try:
Doing a system restore to a previous point
Try doing a "Refresh" which uninstalls all your apps and removes all your settings, then re-installs your win8 apps (but not your desktop ones).
Check your bios, make sure you're on the right one, and/or maybe try re-installing it
Do a full system reset.

Those are all assuming this is a new issue, and not an issue you've had right out of the box. If it's the latter, I would say exchange it/send it back and/or contact lenovo to get it fixed as that would be covered under warrenty.

 

My other laptop has an issue where it can only use a small portion of the charge of its secondary battery; in-OS applications recognize its capacity, and the capacity indicator on the base of the battery registers full even after the laptop thinks its dead. The issue, I've been told, lies in the battery's controller, which reports the wrong capacity numbers to the motherboard and thus limits its use.

It's possible that your battery also has a bad controller. It's also possible that the power connections on your motherboard are loose, or that the component on the motherboard that recognizes the battery has died. In any case, you probably need to get it serviced. My first step in your position would be to call Lenovo support and get them to send you a new battery so you can test to see if that's the issue. If that doesn't solve your problem, you're probably gonna have to send it in.

 

Can it run from the battery while in the BIOS?

 

Did you use the battery recalibrate program that came with the laptop?

 

The Yoga 2 13 (non-pro) is live on Lenovo's site. Other than the non-pro having a better WiFi and an FHD display, are there any other differences between the pro and non-pro?

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/yoga/yoga-2-13/

 

I don't think so. I really like how the black looks. Kind of thinking about putting my Y2P on eBay and getting one!

 

Why would I want to deal with a fiddly Bluetooth and worry if its batteries are charged; when high quality headset, with a small adapter attached, is folded flat in my ultrabook bag pocket, ready for action whenever I need it?

I am genuinely curios if there are any benefits, aside from wireless function.

 

Chassis is different, the Pro is thinner and lighter.

 

Can anyone mention what bloatware they got rid of. Or which ones are worth keeping?

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

 

Looks like the non-pro is 0.07" thicker and 0.3lbs heavier and the ports look the same. Also, the non-pro doesn't have a backlit keyboard. I wonder if the extra thickness and weight is due to the screen?

 

standard platter hard drive. ...all of which, I could deal with, but no backlit keyboard.. and no real price advantage over the Y2P.

 

I think the pro is SSD only because the interface is mSATA. The non-pro can use HD or SSD which implies that it uses SATA III interface.

 

I've owned both the original Yoga 13 and the Yoga 2 Pro so I've lived with both sizes/weights. The size/weight advantage of the Pro is noticeable for me. Given the the prices here are close, I'd say the main reasons to go with the Yoga 2 13 are if you don't want to deal with 3200x1800 or need more than 512Gb of disk space.

I really like the back-lit keyboard on the Pro

 

Ok so I'm not sure what's going on with my Y2P lately. Two weeks ago whenever I was using it, it would just randomly start crashing programs and apps. For no reason the app would close. That happened probably about 20 times. It has been a couple weeks since the last time, so not too worried about that anymore.

The new thing is a blue screen with an error message. Each time it has to restart. And each time it has been a different error message.

Anyone have any idea what's going on? Thank you for your help.

 

Download a live linux distro to a USB flash (Fedora, Ubuntu, etc.). Boot from that USB and select the Memtest function. That will run through and test your RAM.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9

 

Battery Settings for New YogaPro2 i7/512GB

Hi All,
First time poster here. There is a lot of useful information here and i thank you all for your contributions. I have a quick question regarding the battery..

1) I have the latest bios and EM installed as part of the build from the factory, what do i need to ensure good battery life ?

Currently i use off charge, until the battery is near 20% remaining and then connect the charger

What is the recommended practice to ensure good battery life ?

Thank you in advance

 

Surface (RT) is lighter and doesn't get warm. Snaap asked about replacing iPad which doesn't run Windows programs anyway, so RT seems like a valid comparison.

I use the original Surface RT and remote desktop into my full Windows 8.1 desktop, so I have the best of both worlds.

 

Hey!

What Phillips screwdriver size do you guys use inside the yoga ( not talking about the torx t5 to open the cover) ? PH 0 , PH00 or PH000 ?

Also I read about people closing the gap between the back of the cpu and the back cover with thermal paste.If im correct its where the yellow sticker is inside of the back cover, right? On first glimpse it looks like you will need quite a lot paste to close the gap. Can anyone who has maybe done it before report their experiences here ?

 

Hi

I use the Energie Manager 60% mode when I'm on an outlet and this preserves your battery from wear. I've got mine since a couple of month and no wear at all.

"Envoyé depuis mon GT-N7100 avec Tapatalk"

 

thank you, could you explain what that means at 60% ?

 

If you turn on "Conservation Mode" in the Energy Manager settings, then it will charge your battery only to 60%. Supposedly this is good for battery longevity when you are plugged in most of the time, i.e. it's not good for the battery to hold it at full charge for long periods of time. You have to plan ahead though and turn this off when you plan to be away from a power outlet for a while so you can charge up to 100% before leaving.

 

Hi All

what a great thread!

Only registered to say thanks!

i got my y2pro from lenovo direct through quidco last week... £30 cashback and think its great.... replaces my old ipad 2.

got a few cases, the only one i kept was this:

Targus Leather Sleeve for 13.3 inch Ultrabook - Black: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

returned a caselogic 213 which was recommended on here as it was too big!

 

I've had my Y2P for a couple of months now, and I'm loving it so far.

Just a couple of points:
In 'Optimize Drives', automatic schedule is on by default. I thought SSDs weren't meant to be de-fragged?
Also, the keyboard backlight is quite uneven. Some keys are lit much brighter than others (the 'N' for example) and some keys appear lit up a bit yellowish.

Apart from these points, though, it's pretty awesome.

 

Anyone having an issue with noise when the fan kicks on? I just started to hear a light tapping sound. :|

 

Damn just played with thinkpad yoga. Awesome. Feels way more sturdy. But a lot more $$$

 

This SSD Parameters Article might be of help, especially for those who upgrade to Win8 or Win8.1 from Win7.

As far as the keyboard backlighting, I agree with you 100% on the brightness levels being different for certain keys, however, I don't see the yellowing issue on my computer.

 

Hey guys!

I've had 4 Yogas so far (long story) and these are the issues they all had in common:

Screen flickering on 0-30% brightness when running on battery (best noticed on a white background). Just browse the web for a little and you should clearly see it. This happens regardless of the adaptive brightness setting and the Intel display power saving feature turned off.

A humming sound when the screen is running on less than 100% brightness. For me its most noticeable on 70% brightness (you ll need to be in a quiet area to hear this.). Start from 100% brightness and turn it down and you ll notice. The fans should not be running to notice but to me the humming more annoying than a slight fan noise.

The USB 3 port does have issues with some devices. Those devices work with any other USB 3 port on different machines. 2 of the 4 Yogas didnt recognize the device at all, the other 2 did, but the connection is very sensitive and unstable.


Would be great if a few people could test it for themselves. Especially the first two are pretty annoying to me.

 

I think my Yoga 2 Pro does demonstrate both of these, but they are really hard to notice. I think there was some flickering, but I'm only 90% sure that my eyes weren't playing tricks on me ;-) The humming I'm sure is there but it's so quiet I need to be in a silent room and put my ear right up to the machine to hear it.

 

I've seen the flicker on a couple occasions. It was noticeable when I was typing with the notebook on my lap, which caused some screen jiggle that seemed to cause the flickering. I haven't noticed the hum, or indeed any fan noise from the notebook at all.

@quattroginger - The base Thinkpad Yoga isn't much more expensive, but upgrading to the 1080p screen w/digitizer is a huge price jump. It's got a smaller, lesser screen (with either option) and weighs more as well. I'd love the battery life and the Thinkpad build quality on my Yoga 2 Pro, but I think the Yoga 2 Pro is the more-compelling machine for most people.

 

Screen flickering is normal on an LED-backlit display, due to the nature of the "stair step" algorithm implemented for changing backlighting values. On an LED lamp, what changes is the pulse frequency and not the actual brightness. This change is noticeable to the user, especially in low brightness conditions.

If the system adjusts brightness constantly, that means that the power conservation options are still enabled. There are about three places that need to be checked for that option.

 

Regarding the yellow-problem for the monitor... I tried to look in the thread a bit, but hope I can get a reply from someone that have followed the thread and issues...

I have updated my Y2P with the latest BIOS and verified that I'm running the 1.01.49-versjon of the Energy Manager. But in all other modes than "high performance" (the rocket-icon) I will still get yellow that is more in the direction of green and brown.

And even in that mode, the yellow (and the colors in general) ain't especially good. Is it so that others that are running with the lastest BIOS and Energy Manager, get "something that resembles yellow" also when they are in other modes than High Performance (aka The Rocket...)?