***Yoga 2 Pro Owners Thread***

Not sure about your hibernate problem, I've had a weird shutdown problem from time to time depending on the combination of drivers/software installed. I believe DPTF is only supposed to throttle in tablet mode, but I've always suspected it was throttling in laptop mode as well. I'd rather just have it off, and control the throttling myself with Lenovo EM.

As for uninstalling Lenovo EM, it won't hurt anything but you're losing a few perks, like the yellow color correction, and the ability to save battery at a hardware level.

 

Well, it's i5, 4gb, and platter based (thicker chassis). It's also 3.7 lbs. :/ Just kind of fat for what it is.. I'd rather just pick up the open-box Pro for a little more money.

 

So I stopped by Best Buy and grabbed the Y2P.. First thing I noticed is that the fan sounds like it's grinding/touching some edges.. especially when I move the Y2P around in the air/on my lap, etc.. It's audible and noticeable to me (i'm pretty sensitive to this stuff). Sigh, and just sitting there on the table the fans kick on and off while idle on the desktop with no apps loading and i can hear it making a buzzing sound. Awesome!

 

That's not right. You should exchange it if you can.
My Y2P has the quietest fan of all laptops I've owned. I can't hear it unless I'm doing heavy stuff.
Actually, only after few weeks of ownership I realized the fan was running even at lower temperatures. So, yesterday I installed Notebook FanControl and activated built in Yoga 13 profile (it's the first Yoga, but as per reports it works perfectly with Yoga 2 Pro, and you can modify it if you want). Perfect little program.
And now the fan kicks in at much higher temperatures, most of the time is dead silent. In fact, I didn't install this program because of the noise, but more to save some power, there's no need for fans to run all the time.
BTW, looks like Yoga has 2 separate fans with different temperature profiles.

I also downloaded and installed the latest Intel's XTU for over/underclocking, reduced the voltages by total of 48+48+70 mV (CPU, Cache, GPU), and I can say it does save good amount of battery, especially when combines with FanControl and other screen power savings from Intel's graphics control panel.
BTW, for XTU to work you need to disable Intel's DPTF in BIOS. DPTF throttles the CPU when switched to tablet mode, but throttles it a bit too much.

As for you question about which laptop - I just read the new Surface Pro 3 review on Engadget, where they mention all the best alternatives as well. And while I really, really like the 3:2 screen ratio of Surface 3 Pro, that's the only thing that attracts me about it, apart from being very light. Great as a tablet, not good as a laptop.

Basically, I don't think there's a better hybrid laptop/tablet at the market today than Yoga 2 Pro, regardless of price.
If you need JUST a laptop then there's probably better aternatives. Maybe Acer S7, Samsung Ativ Book 9, Macbook Air or maybe also Sony Pro. But Sony sold their laptop business, so I'm not sure how wise is to buy a Sony laptop now...
But none of these you can use as a tablet, and none can be put on a table in a VERY convenient stand mode (which I use a lot in coffee shops).
I like the lightness and thinness as well and for that reason wouldn't go for Yoga 13 non pro.
New Surface 3 Pro would probably be perfect if you need tablet first and laptop second, with spare USB keyboard at your desk when you need to do proper work.

As for resolution - I thought 1920x1080 is enough. But after getting used to 3200x1800 I can say my next laptop will have 4k resolution. It's just SO good to have such a super sharp screen.

The downsides are not perfect yellow (slightly greenish), but most people don't even notice it. Yes, when Y2P came out it was much worse and it gained a lot of negative publicity. Wifi isn't perfect, but doesn't affect everyone, and not with every router. Card can be upgraded though. Few people have some screen flickering at very low brightness.
And, the battery life is 6-7 hours on average, an hour or two less than similar ultrabooks. But with few tweaks you can make it last few hours longer.

Bottom end - give me $10,000 to buy any laptop I want, and I'll still buy Y2P.
I wish the third Yoga to have 4k resolution and 16:10 or 3:2 ratio display, longer battery life and be even thinner and lighter. The form and function is perfect as it is.

 

Ah, I finally found out the real problem for hibernate issue - it was MiniTool Partition Wizard (very good and a free partition program). For some reason it looks like it was conflicting with Lenovo's Energy Manager, and preventing resume from hibernation. I uninstalled it, and will be installing it temporarily only when I need to change partitions.

I uninstalled all other Intel's and Lenovo's stuff and disabled DPTF, and just kept Energy Manager. I noticed DPTF even kept the CPU throttled AFTER switching the laptop from tablet mode back to to laptop mode. I think it's buggy. Good riddance.

I'll try in next few days how Lenovo's Stable mode battery plan compares to Windows' Power saver. They both try to keep the CPU at the lowest frequency, making the laptop less responsive than Balanced plan, but they do give better battery life.

 

Is anyone else having a problem with random zooming while surfing with IE11?

I will go to this website then that website and all of a sudden one site will be at 100% zoom for the page even tough the lower box says 250%. It appears to be random...Then I go back to another page and it is back to what 250% is supposed to look like.

I think its a bug or something. Any one have a fix for this or why this is happening?

 

Hi all,

I recently purchased the tangerine i7. Lenovo's deal was too good to pass up. I originally was thinking about the X1 Carbon, but decided to go with the Yoga for the screen and versatility.

I do have a few questions. I am constantly streaming video (currently watching mlb.tv). The screen on my lenovo y480 is absolutely terrible. Is the y2p's screen going to improve the image quality? Or will it be limited to 1080p (which is what I assume the HD stream generally is). Also, if I am perhaps streaming from sites that are in the grey area of legal/illegal, the feed is often grainy, will the high res screen make it worse or better?

Also, how does Windows 8.1's multi window mode work out? I know the y2p has enough resolution to display 4 apps, but can you do that on the desktop mode and modern UI? Does it only let you display them vertically and not in the corners?

Also, any tips on setting it up right out of the box (grant it, delivery is not until mid-june, so feel free to take your time with that)? What are the quick do's and don'ts.

Thanks!

 

I agree with you on most points.. but the dim screen flicker, this fan grinding sound and for me what seems to be mediocre battery life has me wondering if I made a bad decision.. Luckily I can retrun it to Best Buy. I do think it's the only ultrabook in it's class that offers these specs for the least amount of money.. Thats mostly the only reason it's worth keeping in my opinion.

 

And my left USB port is faulty too.. It disconnects randomly.. even though it's snug.. I also tested this while trying to perform a Windows installation (outside of Windows 8) and it it disconnects in the middle of the install, failing the install completely. It says files do not exist.. If I use the right USB, everything works perfect.

 

The grinding fan is definitely a defect. Mind's so quiet I didn't think it was working at first.

If by screen flicker you mean unexpected lightening and darkening of screen brightness, that can be stopped by turning off auto dimming.

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Already disabled that.. it's a weird low-voltage type flicker or something.. And it seems like auto brightness is still on but it's not.. it will get brighter then darker on occasion in the same room lighting.

 

It does sound like auto brightness is still enabled. That is a typical symptom. There are a 2 or 3 places to turn off the auto brightness. I'm not on my laptop right now or I would do some checking. Intel and Windows are two places to check. Also scan this thread it's been discussed before.

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Yes, it is 0.07 inches fatter than the Y2P and 9 ounces heavier. However, my Yoga 2 13 is SSD based now with a SSD drive faster than what Lenovo ships with their Y2Ps. The Y213 PassMark 8 score of 2095 is higher than many of the Y2P I7 8GB scores that are uploaded to PassMark, so this Y213 is a performer. The PCMark 7 score of 4910 is higher than the scores of similarly equipped Y2Ps and is just a little lower than some I7 equipped notebooks. The standard Y2P has a max write speed of 133MB/sec. My Y213 has a max write speed of 370MB/sec (CrystalMark and ATTO). The supported M.2 slot is type 2280 and can hold the new larger M.2 SSD cards available now.

 

The setting in Power are disabled, which in turns also disables the "Metro" way of doing it under Settings.. I doubled checked. Unless there's a 3rd weird random spot for it i'm pretty sure it's off.. It was a big difference from auto and off.. Auto is very noticeable that its working.. but when disabled it's like a small transition or low-voltage issue with the backlight. Also, it seems the other manufacturers that use this same exact panel are having issues at low brightness too. Therefore it's not Lenovo's fault, it seems the panel can't handle low-brightness.. probably has cheap pots or something controlling the LED backlights.

 

I played with it at Best Buy last night.. It was $829.. Pretty cheap for what you get for sure. How does it do on battery life compared to Y2P though?

 

Battery life should be slightly better because it only has a FHD screen and a new Crucial M550 SSD. Powercfg /batteryreport (built-in Windows utility) shows a active usage of 7:48 hours to 8:46 hours per full charge depending on how careful I have been with the screen brightness and background programs. I mostly used FireFox and Outlook during that active time.

Please note that my benchmark and battery life numbers are based upon the M550 SSD addition. My Yoga still has the 500GB drive as the E: drive.

I chose the Crucial M550 128GB over the M500 120GB because of its faster write speed and slightly larger capacity. Since I still have the internal 500GB drive, I did not see a reason to go for a bigger SSD. The SSD still has over 75GB free to install software without removing the recovery partition. My 500GB drive is still bootable which allows some dual boot flexibility. I can experiment with software in a real installation rather than use a sandbox environment. It takes about 15 minutes for me restore a base Windows on the HD.

 

To fix the display fading/flickering/blinking issues you need to check 3 things -

1) Windows PC settings -> power and sleep -> auto-brightness off (fixes colour fading in an out)

In the intel HD Graphics Control Panel utility -

2) Power -> On Battery -> disable power saving (also fixes colour fading in and out)

3) Power -> On Battery -> disable Panel Auto-Refresh (fixes flashing/blinking when on low brightness setting)

I'm using the newer intel graphics drivers, not lenovo provided ones. If you don't have the options in the intel control panel, remove lenovo graphics driver, and update to 4400 GPU drivers from the intel website -

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/De...eng&OSVersion= &DownloadType=

 

Diversion, it looks like you got a faulty unit. Screen flickering, fan grinding and faulty USB - it's a faulty unit, plain and simple. I wouldn't bother with it any more, just return it. Get another one if you like the laptop without these issues.

Some people DO have flickering issues no matter what they do in settings, which probably means some units have a flickering problem at low brightness, probably a more voltage sensitive panels.

A "normal", non-faulty Yoga 2 Pro has a VERY quiet fan, no issues with USB, and the screen doesn't flicker (apart from auto brightness changing brightness little too often, which is better kept off anyway).
My Y2P also slightly flickers, just slightly, like some voltage thing, but ONLY at 10-20% brightness. That's such a low brightness that I'm not bothered, I would never use it.

There is an option called "panel self refresh" in new Intel's graphics panel (you have to uninstall the stock drivers in order to be allowed to install the new Intel drivers). With this option enabled the panel consumes some 1 - 1.5 W less power, which is significant, but every few hours it makes quite strong blankings and screen shifting that last few seconds. Obviously, Intel hasn't optimized this option properly for Y2P's panel. I use this option, regardless of the issue, when I need a long battery life.
Stock Intel's drivers don't have this option.

The Power saving option, also in Intel's panel, will also save power, but the picture quality, especially in video will suffer slightly. That's just a regular Intel panel option that you can adjust on every laptop...

 

Diversion, The Yoga 2 13 shipped with this newer version of the Intel display driver with the auto-refresh option. Auto-refresh on does not seem to cause any issues to the Yoga 2 13. This and other improvements seem to indicate that Lenovo made design improvements going from the Yoga 2 Pro to the Yoga 2 13.

As to power usage, BatteryBar on my Yoga 2 13 shows as low as 3.0W with the screen on, wifi on, and the CPU idle. The suspend/sleep power usage is 0.4% per hour. An mp4 video 1280x720 running full screen used 12% per hour.

The only significant recurring issues of the Y 2 13 that I have seen are probably quality control issues and boot up issues. I had a boot up issue once but fixed that with a restore to a previously saved image.

 

How is the weight distribution? Is the screen heavier than the keyboard? I'd assume no, but just wanted to make sure. I have a ledge above my desk that would be perfect for an inverted Stand mode. I want to know if I can hang the screen over the edge and use it almost as a mounted TV for Netflix and such without risk of it falling off easily. Be kinda nice to clear up desk space and get a nice viewing angle.

 

I think this unit was a demo display model because when the screensaver comes on, it shows the kiosk video that advertises what the Yoga2Pro can do. .Maybe this is normal but i'm just speculating. This unit has a broken left USB, micro flickering at low brightness (turned off all the Intel control panel settings and windows adaptive). Then the noisy grindy fan..

I think I *WILL* return this and try a brand new model (this was an open box).. Perhaps it was returned for the same reasons as I am finding and Best Buy wants to pull a fast one and re-sell it to someone who doesn't notice the problems.

I do really enjoy the Y2P as a machine.. I'll give it another shot (another unit from another store, hopefully a completely different lot.. The build date on this one is 03/14.. )

 

I just find the Y2P to be a lot sexier and sleeker overall, I can't bring myself to downgrade some, although, maybe I should given it's price is ridiculously cheap.. I could pick up a Crucial M550 240gb on the cheap too. HMMM.

 

The Crucial M550 256GB M.2 card has a faster max write speed than the 128GB according to specs and reviewers. The 256, 512 and 1TB all have the same max write speed.

I find a lot of satisfaction in that my Yoga 2 13 with SSHD + M550 SSD is fast, flexible, reliable, and inexpensive. It has over 600GB and fast performance for less than $900. Because of the M550 write speed, it benchmarks as well as some Yoga I7s in overall performance. If you added a M550 256GB card, it would be even faster.

And one last significant point is uptime. Having two bootable drives in the same PC helps in troubleshooting and recovery When I need a Windows drive recovery, I can boot to the other drive, start my recovery to the other Windows drive, and browse and work at the same time. Using a boot rescue restore program means only being able to do a restore. Troubleshooting a drive with full Windows is so much easier than the alternatives.

 

I slowed the repeat rate down to the lowest/slowest. . . may have made a small difference, but didn't solve the problem. wondering if mitchellvii found a solution.

 

Wondering if you ever found a solution. The reply was not really helpful.

 

Gmail still won't work in the latest version of Canary in hidpi mode. Has anyone Gotten Chrome/Canary working correctly without all the flickering in Gmail? I don't want to go back to IE...

 

Folders taking a long time to fully open.

For instance, when I open the "Download" folder, it can often take almost 20 seconds to load all the contents. Obviously not normal, but I'm not sure how to fix it.

 

I too would like to know of a solution/fix. I love chrome and use google services and extensions alot so I still use chrome but without hidpi. The blurriness looks really bad, but useable for now. Waiting patiently

 

I am about to purchase Yoga 2 Pro from BestBuy.
I've read Lenovo forum on wireless card that almost everyone is replacing it.
Is it necessary?

 

Hey All,

Does anybody know if the UK model would have different motherboard or power board than the US version.

I am asking because I can't get my faulty US Yoga 2 Pro fixed in the UK because they said they cannot source the parts.

Thanks
Matt

 

I've got the original card and no more trouble=drops since the last driver. Many change it for the last wi-fi standard AC (?)

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I just picked my y2p up at Best Buy. I have no problems with the scaling in desktop mode for chrome or any of the programs, really. And that was fresh out of the box. I did update the drivers to change the yellow, but i'm not entirely sure anything is different.

Is it just mine, or did it take everyone else's y2p several hours to fully charge (at least the first time)?

 

Mine shipped w/the latest driver. I haven't replaced mine and haven't had any issues w/wifi.

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I tested my battery today and my Y2P only lasted 2hrs 30min, which consisted of only Web browsing with Google Chrome and running an anti virus scan for 10 minutes (it was almost dead by then). My power setting was balanced, 50% brightness and everything else set to power saver mode. This machine is only about 5 months old. I barely have any programs installed, but I do have VMWARE player installed with three virtual machines (but they were not running). When I check for processes, nothing seems out of the normal. I'll use IE next time and see what happens. I have my resolution set at two notches under the full resolution. Any one else getting crappy battery life? I have the I7 500GB 8GB of memory version btw. I have the latest drivers too, bios update, etc.

 

Nope, mine charges in about an hour (even the first time), but discharges very fast too! :-(

 

See, I'm having the opposite problem. I just charged it a second time, and while it was certainly quicker than the first, it took me 2 hours (to go from 20% to 100%). However, it was fully charged, unplugged, and powered off around midnight the night before and was only at 20% by 7pm the following day. I wasn't using it constantly, but between 6:30am and 7:00pm, I used it for word processing, some video streaming, and web browsing; all at about 80% brightness.

I have honestly zero idea how Li-batteries work though. They confuse me with their inconsistencies.

 

Is AC 7260 the best wireless card if I'm going to do a upgrade?

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Edit, today it lasted for 6hrs with the same activity. I did use IE instead of chrome this time though and made sure I was under the "daily mode" power plan on the Lenovo energy manager.

 

I picked up one yesterday evening. Mine has build date of April 2014. It came with Win 8.1.
performance wise, I like it. Display still doesn't show the yellow correctly. It is mustard. Using windows' Paint to check the color of yellow clearly show it as mustard yellow.

I loaded some pictures to check the yellow. it appears to be a little light compared to other displays that I have. 4 different monitors up to Dell 2713.

Is there any display calibration software to adjust the colors settings better? display calibrations of the windows doesn't have much on colors.

so far fully charged in an hour out of the box. played with it lightly to get used to Win 8.1.

 

Hi

Scroll up or do a search and you'll find a profile you can use in this thread. Still, I have the Spider Calibration System, the yellow will stay somewhat brownish. I don't mind, the Y2P is so good and such fun, I can live with it

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I'm having trouble with two-finger scroll and choosing a web browser. Firefox hardly recognizes it and then all of a sudden it jumps down half a page. Firefox also acts jerky when typing and scrolling. Chrome is not that great with hdpi enabled and doesn't look that good without it. IE is alright, but I'm don't like the whole bing-ecosystem.

Any tips?

 

If you like IE but don't like Bing, you can get rid of Bing and make Google the default IE search engine.

Microsoft does not make it easy; I believe it takes about 15 steps. But I've gotten good at doing it pretty quick now that I have set up Windows 8 on a lot of computers.

I'm sure you can find a video or better instructions than I'm about to give but I'll give you the gist of it:

You open the Settings menu in Desktop IE, and choose something like "Manage Search Engines." That gets you to a point where in about five steps, you can add Google as search engine number two, beneath search engine number one which is still Bing.

You then change the search engine sequence, tell IE that Bing is no longer the default search engine, and finally remove Bing altogether. Somewhere during this process, you have to actually quit IE and relaunch it in order for one of your changes to take effect.

I'm pretty sure that once you remove Bing -- not just as the default search engine, but as a search engine altogether -- then Google will also become your search engine for IE Metro.

 

Thanks, it was actually pretty easy to google-fy IE. I still find myself bouncing back and forth between the two though. Maybe I'll decide on one at some point.

How is everyone's experience with light-bleed? I see the biggest problem above the 3 & 4 keys. Its not too bad and only noticeable when watching night scenes in movies. Its a shame because this display is fantastic in every way, but this one little (for lack of a better term) bright spot keeps reminding me I'm watching this on a laptop. (This is a slight annoyance and one of the reasons I like OLED screens).

Also, for those that have used this for a few months now, how is the hinge? Does it still feel sturdy? I'm worried with all the flexing that it will weaken.

 

I use Chromium Wheel Smooth Scroller extension for smooth scrolling in Chrome or Opera Next browser.

 

Chrome or Chromium still don't work for me. I've got the DPI flag set to 1 in the registry (only way to make it work right now) and gmail still is all buggy (flashing and half of it is white).

Is everyone just using IE? Or Chrome without the DPI flag on (text is fuzzy)?

 

As I understand it, as weird as this sounds, Gmail and YouTube don't work well in the Chrome browser!

A casual remark by duttyend at the top of page 270 of this thread inspired me to give Firefox another chance – especially now that it's controls are pretty touchscreen friendly, and I don't actually cruise the web on a tablet anymore.

When Chrome gets their act together, I will probably switch back to that browser, so that I can have the same browser on all my devices including my iPad and iPhone. But Firefox, and its nice syncing features, are working fine for me.

 

Do you notice less battery run time while using Chrome? I sure do, so I'm forced to use IE, or am I imagining things?

 

Yes, I definitely do. I'm pretty sure a lot of people notice the difference in battery life between Chrome and IE. I think Chrome is the most battery-hungry browser.

Need the Most Life from Your Laptop's Battery? Use IE, Not Chrome

This was a quick google search, but I'm sure there are other sources that agree.

 

Has anyone tried the new 64 bit Chrome yet?

Chromium Blog: Try out the new 64-bit Windows Canary and Dev channels

 

So, I have had my Y2P for about 5 months now. When I first bought it, I was having a problem with apps constantly crashing. No matter what they were. I couldn't figure it out. After battling with Lenovo support(they kept insisting it was a software issue, which made no sense), I sent it in and they replaced the mother board. Pretty big repair. It was working fine though until a few weeks ago. I started hearing this "humming" noise when I set the brightness to anything other than 100%. Not only that, but the fans are always on. They never shut off. Doesn't matter if I have nothing open, or 10 apps. So I called support again and told them I would not accept another repair. I want a replacement. I feel like after they replaced the mother board, I have a $1,200 refurbished laptop. He said he completely understood and would have a supervisor contact me. She did, and said that if they had to do another "major" repair, that she would issue a replacement. I told her that this unit was defective from the moment I purchased it and was afraid of what was going to happen once the warranty expired. She still would not guarantee a replacement. Well I sent it back yesterday, and will see what happens. I am pretty frustrated with this whole process. Being without my computer sucks. Anyone else have any issues with RAM, or with the fans??