***Yoga 2 Pro Owners Thread***

After some experimentation I found the problem. There is a registry key that causes Windows to require holding a key down for a period of time before it is recognized. It's an accessibility feature. For some reason today's Microsoft patches set the value to 1000 ms. If you have this problem, here is how to fix it:

Launch regedit.exe and navigate to Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Accessibility\Keyboard Response
Then modify the following field as follows:
DelayBeforeAcceptance=5
Then exit regedit and restart the computer.

If your registry had some ridiculous value such as DelayBeforeAcceptance=1000, then this will fix the problem.

 

I am looking for the best stylus for the Y2P. I've read up and was going to get the Musemee Notier Prime (Black Rubber Grip) - The Precision Disc Stylus, Amazon.com: Musemee Notier Prime (Black Rubber Grip) - The Precision Disc Stylus: Computers & Accessories but I read an answer on Amazon that said it scratched the screen. I've seen it recommended here as well and just wanted to see what people think is the best after using them for a while.

Thanks.

 

Check out my mini-review of the Dart Stylus.

 

Thanks for the review, but that looks a little out of my price range right now. Just looking for something that I can use once in a while to take notes in OneNote that I know won't scratch the screen. I work in Data Centers sometimes and need to take notes sometimes without a ready desk ect...

 

Hey all. This started a week ago. So laptop supposedly sleeps fine when I close the screen lid. However it does not resume when I open the screen lid. I have to press the power button. Windows boots back and whatever I had opened resumes.

Doesn't happen all the time but I would say 50% of the times. Any ideas what this could be?


Also thought id add, as was re installing win couple weeks back tried win 10 technical (the build before the current). installed transition software and other laptop modes did work ok. However win itself was very choppy, opening a windows for eg would be choppy as if cpu was struggling to cope up (which of course isnt the case). Didnt bother to try it further as needed the laptop for work. So just a brief test.

 

Interesting. I have it on VMplayer and it works fine.

 

Hi all,

I have the Skinomi full body skin (carbon fiber) and screen protector on my Y2P. I like it for the most part, but am not incredibly happy with the clarity of the screen protector... and it is installed perfectly. Has anyone used any other brands?

I'm looking for something more like ZAGG's HDX. Is the screen size identical to a any other 13.3" laptops out there that ZAGG might have a shield for?

Also, has anyone upgraded their SSD to say a Samsung 840 EVO and noticed a performance difference over the stock 256GB Samsung? I just rarely trust the reliability of OEM grade drives.

 

The only advantage of the EVO is you get RapidCache and it has TLC 3-bit MLC NAND. The Samsung PM851 MZMTE256HMHP that comes with the Yoga is also TLC.

 

Hello!

May I ask: Has any one considered switching to the Yoga 3 Pro or has anyone played with one? Are there any quick comparisons you can make?

Thank you!

 

I have not considered switching to a Y3P, but I did look at the specs/reviews.

1. Lack of Function Keys - kills the deal - I don't understand Lenovo here
2. Lower performance than the Y2P
3. Equal battery life as the Y2P - they had to go smaller on the Y3P battery
4. The wristband hinge design looks ghetto...
5. It is thinner and lighter... but my Y2P is more than adequate... a bit heavy for tablet use, I agree.
6. Y3P uses a newer display panel revision, which has better yellows. That's a good thing.

 

All good points and I agree with each -- except you didn't mention for (2) that it's running a lower-end/pwered processor (which of course "should" mean better battery life!).

So I'm sitting on the sidelines until next spring to see if the U-variant of the Y3P shows up (likely, I think) and if so, how it compares to the M-variant. Admittedly, if the Core M version is any indication, the U's should be faster, hotter, and get even shorter battery life! LOL

-Matt

 

Matt,

Agreed, but I have not seen reviews where the Y3P had better battery longevity... even under lower processor demands.

 

Oh, I don't know if you picked up on my sarcasm at the end of my comment! I'm right there with you on the battery-life concern -- it's just dumb that the Y3P doesn't knock it out of the park.

-Matt

 

I also have the carbon fiber skin from Skinomi. I did not use they provided skin protector as I found it near impossible to install. I purchased a 2-pack of protectors on Amazon from Illumishield for $10. They are excellent. I highly recommend them.

 

Hey guys - I just got a Yoga 3 Pro and am very surprised to see that Minecraft 1.8 with the default graphics settings can't get more than 8 - 12 fps. Are you kidding me?? I know this laptop is not a power horse, and I expected that intense graphical games like Call of Duty would need to be played on low graphics quality. But Minecraft? Seriously this laptop cannot play it at a reasonable frame rate? I suppose I could cut the graphics quality way back to get the frame rate up, but I don't feel like I should have to do this with a brand new state of the art laptop. Even a 5 year old laptop and a 7 year old Sony VAIO play it just fine and much better than this. If this is the type of quality of the graphics card / machine then this is going back to the store.

Any tips for things to look at or ways to fix/improve it? Thank you.

 

What is the resolution you are running? If it is the native resolution, you may have a hard time.
Try to lower the resolution to 1600*900, it should be fine, and you won't notice any difference in the graphic.

Core M is not a power horse, but should not be so bad (somewhere between 4nd gen i3 and i5), according to the most recent review from mobiletechreview.com ( MobileTechReview Forum, News and Reviews: Lenovo Yoga 3 Pro Video Review).

 

Great suggestion about lowering the resolution! Can't believe I didn't think of that. However, quite surprisingly, this made the frame rate much worse and the game quite unresponsive.

I lowered the resolution at the Windows OS level to 1600x900. Then launched the game. Oddly when I told the game to run in full screen mode it occupied 1/4 of the screen. When I did not have full screen mode On then I could just make the window full size and that part was OK. But in either case the game is very unresponsive - totally unplayable and even worse then when run at the full resolution. Even if I have the resolution at the full native resolution and run Minecraft in a 1600x900 window it sill has the same lousy FPS. I updated the Intel drive and that took it from about 6-10 FPS to about 12-15 FPS but this is still very poor and unplayable.

Any other tips or things to try? Can the performance of the graphics on this laptop really be THIS bad??

 

I'm reluctant to ask, (a) because I don't own the Y2P, and (b) because it's kinda obvious, but: did you try playing with the power/performance modes? I assume you're plugged in, but it sounds to me like you're in a power mode that really throttles the CPU. Remember also to check in the bowels of Windows advanced power options (Power Options -> Processor power management -> Maximum processor state) to make sure that you've got it at 100%.

Running a utility like HWInfo64 is also very helpful for looking under the hood. In particular, you can pick a variety of metrics (e.g., CPU speed, overall CPU utilization, etc.) and plot them while you're running the game to see how they vary over time.

-Matt

 

Thanks for the suggestions. Yes I am playing with it plugged in. Also I have power options set to Maximum. I double checked in the advanced settings and everything is maxed out in terms of performance and any power saving functions are disabled. Even if I change the Minecraft graphics options to low details and such my FPS only gets to about 20. If that's all this system can do, then fine I will return it. But first i want to make sure I'm not overlooking something such as a setting or optimization I can make. Thanks.

 

Yeah sadly your previous questions made it clear you know what you're doing. I'd still be really curious to watch what happens to your cores once you start the game...in other words, I'm betting it's a CPU and not (integrated) GPU issue. I'm pretty confident the Intel HD 5300 can handle Minecraft no problem.

-Matt

 

Thanks Matt. Thanks. What if it is a CPU issue? Any way to work around it? I'd love to collet the info on the cores for your opinion. I should run GPU Z for this and do/collect what exactly? If you can please describe in detail I'll run the test tonight. Thanks again!

 

I tilt a bit more toward HWiNFO than GPUZ, based on personal experience (the former feels to me like it's accessing hardware data more accurately), but I haven't used GPUZ in a year or two so I should really be agnostic to either. In any case, both have the option to log data...so I'd install/run either, turn on logging, start the game, and then capture what's happening on the GPU (and if you go with HWiNFO, also CPU) while running the game. Note that both also have a built-in ability to display GPU and/or CPU plots. The first place I'd look is at GPU speed before/after starting the game, as well as GPU temps and % utilization/load. Similarly for CPU if you're using HWiNFO. The menus for both utilities are pretty self-explanatory, though for HWiNFO you have to go a bit deeper into settings to get to the logging option.

If you manage to capture some data that way, the next step would be to upload what you can here (e.g., screenshots of the graphs) to the forum and we can all take a look! The two likely hypotheses at this point are either you have a defective system (e.g., CPU not adequately soldered, cooled, or thermal pasted), or a "rogue" software setting that is choking the CPU/GPU.

-Matt

 

The Y3P suffers from significant CPU throttling under heavy load (high temperatures)... that may explain things.

 

My bad...I just did the math and realized this conversation belongs over in the Y3P thread! We should migrate the discussion over there.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/761207-official-yoga-3-pro-release-thread-12.html

-Matt

 

maybe intel DPTF is more aggressive in the y3p and in all modes. y2p it was only active during tablet mode. It can be disabled in bios though (for y2p).

 

any tips on how to clean the silver coating on the laptop? I can see light smudge marks due to my hand, where you tend to the hold the laptop while transporting. I tried clear tape (which works great to remove the residue on the tracking pad), but no good. Damp microfiber cloths also no good.

 

Paper towel and glass cleaner? Microfiber should be more for the display surface...

 

hi
Three weeks ago I bought a Y2P with the following specs:
LENOVO Yoga 2 Pro 2-in-1 13.3" Touch-Screen Laptop - Intel Core i7 - 8GB Memory - 256GB Solid State Drive: 13.3"
But each hour of the first day was blue screen error and restarted automatically.
By examining the event veiwer, I figured maybe the problem is not recognizing drivers.
after installing updates blue screen is solved.
But now the problem is severe warming cpu and laptop bottom:
cpu is over 90 degree c!!!
In the event page also displays the same old problems:

What should I do?
Is there online support for Lenovo products?

 

Try killing the Phone Companion process in the task manager. Let us know the results.

 

the laptop is so hot
after killing and unistalled Phone companion this is the lastest results:

 

cpu tempreture over 80:

 

You might check out this thread -- it seems to match several of the issues you're reporting:

Solved Windows host process (Rundll32) HIGH CPU usage

-Matt

 

Hi,

I don't know if you sorted out your problem but I see that you have Core Temperature installed and this this never worked properly on my Y2P. Both times I tried, my Y2P stalled at boot and no way to get it through it.

I forgot about that one and installed PCMeter instead. ( Windows Desktop Gadgets - PC Meter Beta 0.4)

You might want to try and un-install that one...

Good luck!

 

Also, do you have more than one anti-virus software installed? That would be a bad thing.

 

Music man - I have a. 512 gb EVO 840 sitting on my desk waiting for me to find some time to clone/swap out what came in my Y2P. How did your transition go? Any problems? Notice any difference? Benchmarks? The Samsung that came on mine benchmarked well.

Swapping NICs turned into a nightmarish chore, but it's working very well.



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Hello,

I recently just got my Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro. After a relative played a game (Big Fish Games, nothing illegal), the desktop is now acting strangely. All the icons are extremely small, and the text of some browsers are tiny. I currently have the computer at maximum resolution, but the image still appears "grainy" on browsers and Microsoft applications. I've tried resetting my computer, but the picture still looks exactly the same. Any ideas how I can fix this?

 

One more thing, the computer was just fine about a day ago. The task bar was not microscopic and fonts were all clear. The resolution was beautiful, now something seems off...

 

Sounds like the text size was changed somehow. Not eh screen resolution dialog select the make text and other items larger or smaller then change it to 200% if you are running at 3200x1800.

Sent from my VS980 4G

 

Hey guys
I just got my yoga 2 pro i7 256gb two days ago, and I don't know if its normal or not but there are some heat issues im facing, idle temp when its just sitting there goes from 45-50 Celsius but if im just casually surfing the web it goes up to high 50s-70's is that normal for this laptop, or do you think its a bad batch I got? it previously had fan issues and it would get pretty loud from just surfing the web but I fixed that with notebook fan control, thanks
oh and do you guys think I should return it for a new one

 

Windows 8's scaling feature is still a bit immature and does not work well when trying to switch on the fly. If you change resolution and scaling, you should log out and back in again.

It sounds like whoever played that game messed with the graphics settings and it needs to be reset. The default settings are 3200-x1800 resolution and 200% scaling (which is the second to last setting on the adjustment, if I remember correctly). After that, log out of Windows and then log back in again and it should fix your issues.

This also goes for the person trying to play Minecraft. If you switch down to 1600x900 @ 100% scaling, log out and back in again before running the game.

You can save "profiles" in the Intel graphics drivers to make switching easier (but you still should log out and in again after switching).

If you don't log out and in again the scaling doesn't work properly.

 

Does anybody know how to add the 16 bit color palette display option? In the advance settings under List all modes, everything is in 32 bit. For normal day to day use, I won't need 32 bit and I'm looking for ways to get a little more battery life out of it (not that it's a major problem so far).

 

I would think the option for a 16-bit palette is a video driver option (either it has it or it does not).

What that would get you is a savings in video memory allocation, but not much battery life savings.

If you can handle it, run the display at 40% or less under battery operation and that will get you the most savings.

 

Just bought a Y2P and made all the suggested changes listed here such as disabling the auto brightness and made sure I updated drivers where possible. If it wasn't for this forum and another one I would have already returned the Yoga.

I am having an issue that I can't seem to find an answer to. Has anyone noticed significantly reduced write speeds over the USB 3.0 port than what you would expect?

First I tried using TeraCopy which I have had good luck with. I was only getting about 35MB/s write speeds and normally it is pretty good for me on most computers I use. I then tried the default Windows copy and I saw throughput in the mid 50MB/s range.

I tried 3 different USB 3.0 drives. One was a Turbo PNY 128GB USB 3.0 stick. I typically see 90MB/s writes and 110-120MB/s reads. I tried a Samsung 512GB 840 Pro SSD drive in a USB 3.0 Rocketek enclosure. I also tried a Samsung 1TB Evo SSD drive in a generic USB 3.0 enclosure. They all seemed to be capped at about mid 50MB/s write speeds and I also tried FastCopy 2.11 and got the same max speeds.

The read throughput was very good but not as good as I expected. I saw about 100MB/s on my USB stick and about 150MB/s on the 840 Pro and about 160 on the 1TB Evo.

I typically see about 100MB/s write across the board but not even close here. Normally TeraCopy is also faster on other PCs to read/write than the native Windows copy function for me. I did all test in High performance power mode. I did notice a significant drop-off in speed when in daily or power saving mode. Has anyone else notice this?

So any suggestions as to what the issue is? Write speeds are critical to me as I normal have to write about 300GB of photos and video to a drive sometimes and the slow write speeds will really impact my workflow.

 

I have just purchased a y2pro. I am wondering if you old hands could suggest a list of tweeks/settings based on your experiences to make my laptop easier to use. I already have noticed the text is very small. I am not a sophisticated user and would appreciate any help.

 

Today Lenovo finally posted the Energy Manager v1.0.1.51 publicly on their support site. Seems to be the same as the one posted here weeks ago.

Additionally there is a new Intel Wifi driver. Any experiences with that?

 

I wouldn't touch any Intel driver for the except the graphics. I installed one once and nothing but misery.

 

Just a quick update guys for posterity purposes - I decided to return my Yoga Pro 3. It was really bothered by its poor performance. Before I purchased it I read that it has some performance concerns, but I figured that was for more heavy-duty usage - thinks like Photoshop etc. I expected a basic game like Minecraft to play just fine. But it didn't. Best I could get was 18-21 frames per second. I bought the ASUS N550. The same exact Minecraft setup gave me 60 FPS no problems with no tweaks or special settings necessary to achieve the nice performance. Hope this helps someone.

 

Don't know why you are complaining about the Yoga 3 in the Yoga 2 thread. There is a Y3 thread after all. Glad you like your new rig though.

I play MineCraft on my Yoga 2 Pro and it runs fine.

 

I was less thrown by Y2P vs. Y3P than I was by the comparison of a Core M with a quad-core i7. If it were Core M vs. a U-variant (dual-core) i7, I could see the "apples vs. pears" comparison, but the Asus N550 is a lot more like an "apples vs. shot of tequila". Not really a meaningful comparison for the Y3P.

-Matt

 

Hiya.

So I was looking for a new ultrabook, saw the Yoga 2 Pro at the store and was mildly interested, picked it up, folded it, felt it.

I LOVED IT, IT'S SO STURDY.

I found out the store currently has a deal, where they sell a i3/8GB/256GB/1080p screen for 6500kr with danish tax. ($1051 roughly)

I've been lurking a little in the thread, but I have some questions:

Is there any major issues except the yellow colours?
Is it worth paying $550 extra for the i7/8GB/256GB/1800p?

My useage will be browsing with up to 10-25 tabs open, youtube, remote desktop, office, very light gaming such as Civ5 on low/mid & World of Warcraft, and the ~montly game of League of Legends.

I'm currently on a fence between the Y2P or the ASUS Zenbook UX301LA ( ASUS ZENBOOK UX301LA-DE083H | På lager | Billig)

Y2P i3: Køb Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 2 13.3 2-i-1 computer - Elgiganten
Y2P i7: Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 2 Pro 2-i-1 13,3 - sølv - Bærbar computer - Elgiganten