the legalities behind the Employee Purchase Program

well all what i heard is that u cannot return the meyer order and you might not have your warranty, is that all the worries?

 

Hair loss and flatulence are also possibilities.



But seriously, cancellation of the order is always a possibility at least until you get the machine. I think that's about it.

 

so if there is a defect let say something broke on the way it was shipped to you and u open the box, then you cannot return a broken machine?

 

If the reports are accurate, the answer is no.

But that's the thing, all we can do here is guess about what Lenovo might or might not want to do. I think that if they want to play hardball there's a way for them to play hardball so I certainly don't think the transaction is risk-free. On the other hand, none of us can read Lenovo's mind so it's anyone's guess right now.

The other thing is that whatever happened in the past is no guarantee of what can happen now.

 

Here is a portion of my order taken straight off the Lenovo page.

I read this to mean i have a 1 yr depot warranty.....

All the speculation about warranties is BS.....the only question is whether it will ship or not....LOL





1 SYS.2613CT CONFIGURED SYSTEM

2613CTO TP T60 SERIES 1 YR DEPOT TS
42R9190 VBB NO INT.WIFI WL 3RD ANTENNA
62P6054 VBB INTEGR.BLUETOOTH PAN
42R9315 SBB INTEL CORE 2DUO PROC T7200

 

I agree, really. We all have been getting way ahead of ourselves. Let's get the damn laptop first.

Order still alive.

 

my order still says "in process." sweet.

 

I ordered a T61 through EPP on 6/2, and I got an email this morning (6/6) saying that my order has been shipped. The Track Shipment has been updated on Lenovo's order status page and goes to UPS for tracking information.

It's a 3.8 kg package coming from Hong Kong to San Diego, and should arrive 6/8. I won't believe it until I see it, because I don't get how my order was able to get processed so quickly. I did upgrade the shipping to 2 day UPS, but I highly doubt that will expedite my order. Is it even reasonable for a laptop to be built so quickly??

 

Was this a legitimate EPP? (you know the employee)

 

Sorry for not being clear, it was the Meyer EPP.

 

It will be interesting to see if paying the extra 21.00 for UPS 2 Day really expedites the build process. I paid the extra 21.00 on my order and hopefully it ships quicker ( I am thinking they may flag these as high priority orders and move them to the front of the line?)

 

Unless they explicitly said they would treat the order as a "rush" order, don't expect them to move your order to the front of the line. Normally for a rush order you need to pay the manufacturer a special fee. I don't think $21 covers more than what UPS wants for the 2-day shipping. So I wouldn't hold my breath on this.

On the other hand, judging by the reports I've seen of people getting machines from Lenovo, shipping dates seem to be pretty random right now. Some people have reported getting their machines within days of the order. You might be one of the lucky ones...

 

Well I just pulled the trigger on T61 through EPP (IBM employee not Lenovo)
I will monitor my order to see when/how far it gets pushed out. In reading the legalities - an employee (including family/friends) are allowed 25 units/yr.
There was also a note saying a new referal was coming this quarter - no details yet.

 

maybe your order was just a configuration they had ready to ship.

 

I've been lurking around these EPP threads for a while and I wanted to tell you my experience buying with EPP (IBM Employee). I did not use the Meyers EPP, but another users serial number that I had found on the internet. So that's the first difference between what I experienced and what is going on for you all. I placed my order on 5/23 for an X60t and an extra power supply. At the time the estimated ship date was 6/7. I chose the free ground shipping for the order. The power supply shipped on 5/25 from Hong Kong and arrived via UPS Express shipping on 5/29 (weekend and memorial day holdup). My laptop shipped on 5/29 and arrived 5/31, directly from China via again (2 day basically) UPS Express shipping. So if your laptop is built to order, it is coming from overseas and you get express shipping no matter what you pay for. Not about the warranties, I paid for 3 year depot service with Thinkpad protection (accidental warranty) since I plan to be using the tablet in a lab environment. It took a week for the information to propagate into their database that we can look up, but I'm covered until 7/2010 on warranty end. Good luck to all of you.

 

My Girlfriend's Grandfather works for IBM and has agreed to use his discounts on the X61 I'm purchasing. As far as I know, this is completely legal under the current EPP. Does anyone know if it's possible to combine the EPP with the Visa Cardholders/AMEX TailorMade/Student discounts in any combination? I would like to tack on at least student, if not Visa or AMEX as well.

 

The only one it stacks with is the AMEX Tailormade - the other two discounts are the same type as, but lower savings, as EPP.

 

ok....i caved and called to check the status of mine.

Estimated ship date still shows 8/27. The csr told me it did indeed show a 8/27 ship but it was one of the orders caught up in the ship date "glitch" and should ship within 3 weeks of the order.

main point is that the order is still active with no red flags or sirens going off when the csr opened up my order.....

It's gonna ship......i can feel it.....LOL

 

it's a lie.
i called, (my ship date shows 8/30) and they said it would ship sooner
i asked "Why don't you change it on the website"
they didn't know why, but couldn't change it, but promised it would ship 2-3 weeks after order

i don't believe them, as it's already been 2 weeks

 

ha, my order is still going strong. Expected ship date of Monday. If it ships, fantastic. I am half expecting a delay email on monday though, lol.

 

Just want to give some hope to those that ordered with the Meyer EPP.

UPS showed up at my door today w/ the T61 that I ordered on 6/2 w/ 2 day UPS shipping. As soon as I got it, I couldn't even open it because I had to go to work

Hopefully the warranty will show up in the next week or so like some of you have said.

Here is my configuration:

7658CTO CTO THINKPAD T61 WITH INTEGRATED GRAPHICS 1 Y
42V8190 SBB INTEL CORE 2 DUO PRCESST7300
46P4166 VBB MICROSOFT WINXP PROFESSION
42V9437 SBB MSWIN XP PROF US ENGLISH
42V9324 SBB 14.1WXGA +TFT,W/OCAM
42X0905 ** SBB INTELGMA960W/1394, SMARTCARD
41W2057 VBB 512MB PC2-5300 667MHZ1DIMM
42V8195 SBB KEYBOARD US ENGLISH
42V9329 SBB UN(TRACKPOINT+TCHPD)
42V8705 SBB 100 GB HDD,7200RPM
42V8715 SBB DVDREC8XMAXDUALLAY,UBAYSLM
42X0805 SBB PC CARDSLOT EX CARDSLOT
41W1685 SBB 11ABGWIFI WL LAN USEULAANZ
42V9339 SBB 7 CELL LI-ION BATERRY
41W1787 SBB CPK NORTH AMERICA
27R1769 SBB PSTN CABLE
42V9354 SBB LANG. PACK US ENGLISH
42V9428 SBB PACKAGING US
42V9643 SBB 14.1WXGA+W/OBT,CA,WWAN,11N
39T6440 SBB 56K V.92 DESIGNED MODEM
42V8645 SBB CL.PLATE T61WLAN
42V9665 SBB FCC, LABEL
42V9666 SBB GEO LABEL US, WLAN
41W2300 SBB LOGO PLATE
42V9632 SBB INTEGRWWAN ANT:14.1" 11ABG
42X0920 SBB INTELGMA 960 W/1394,W/AMT
42V8229 SBB MS LABEL (XP)
42V9651 SBB MT 7658 SYSTEM LABEL
42X0929 SBB MECH MISC PARTS
42T7135 SBB INTEL LABEL CORE-2
42X0914 SBB NO SIM MODEL
42V8239 SBB ODD SW DVD REC
42X1352 SBB PC CARDSLOT EXPRESCARDSLOT
42V9633 SBB STAND LCD C/B:14.1"W/O CAM
42X0915 SBB WLAN MISC PARTS
42V9340 SBB 512MB PC2-5300 DDR2 SODIMM
41C9170 LENOVO THINKPLUS EXTENDED SERVICE AGREEMENT - 3 YEARS - PICK-UP AND RETURN

 

All those who bailed are gonna be sorry.....LOL!

I can feel it.....it's gonna ship!!!

 

You can get FW + EPP + AMEX/TM. I don't know why FW doesn't seem to get mentioned much. It's another 6% right now.

 

Maybe it's just gas.

 

yours arriving seems to be an anomaly . i'm not getting my hopes up
could it be a combination of WinXP, intel gfx ??/

 

another day and my order is still in process with a shipping date sometime next week. woo! i still have my doubts though.

 

thats a fast delivery! which doesnt make much sense...lucky you

 

Its the two day shipping maybe? There seems to be a correlation with 2 day shipping and getting the orders quicker.

 

I find it kind of hard to believe, but at least it gives me a little hope. I wonder if mine will ship sometime...

 

Some positive things:
Received a part of my order, a Thinkpad back pack on Monday.

Web sales sent me the following response email today:

Thank you for contacting Lenovo, the makers of ThinkPad and ThinkCentre products!

We have looked into your Lenovo order ******. We have been advised your order is expected to ship mid June (the week
of June 14th) due to system stock issues.

Looks like the 40% off will pan out. Still keeping the faith...

 

Wait, how did you get 40% off?

 

25% memorial day sale + 15% EPP = 40%

 

I ordered the T61 2 days using FW. However the FW rebate/discount is not showing anywhere. Neither in the Lenovo checkout window(or the order status screen) and nor in my FW account page in the balance history.

I followed the instructions did link to the Lenovo store using the FW. And the pop-up was there all the time too. Does anything else need to be done after purchase. I mean I just entered the credit card info and waited for the order processes message and then i closed both the Pop-up and the order window. Is that correct?

Will the lenovo rep know about FW. Is it ok to ask him on the phone?

 

My Meyers EPP purchase just shipped. It was an X60 order. I cancelled it though because I better deal this week, oh well!

 

order is still "in process" and set to ship on monday. there is hope!

 

^same here

 

Well I have just taken the Old Spice challenge with the EPP.

ESD August 2nd! Yikes!

 

Don't you guys think it's weird (and extremely irritating) how some people who ordered with Meyer EPP only a few days ago are already getting their laptops while those of us who ordered weeks ago don't even have our laptops shipped out yet?

 

Lenovo probably had a crackdown, flagged orders that they saw at a particular time, and assumed that no further orders would be placed with that EPP account info. Has to be the case if post-fiasco Meyers orders are going through.

 

That's very unrealistic. If they were slashing and burning EPP orders, they wouldn't "assume" no further orders would be played with that EPP account info. Anybody who runs a business would know to cancel the damn account already. I have a feeling that this has to do with the "delays most affecting orders placed before 5/24" thing that the Lenovo blog was talking about (find it on these forums). Very annoying.

 

Yeah, the simplest explanation for the delays: it is the same problem in all cases that causes some orders to be delayed and some to go through. Whether they were ordered on Meyer or not has no effect.

 

What I find odd is that they only canceled some of the orders. Many others on here and I still have active orders, and some people are placing them now and getting them , it seems to be hit and miss as to whether or not they will cancel it. Mine is still active and set to ship out on Monday. As I have said before, I am going to wait on it. If it ships - sweet! I got a great deal on a great laptop. If it doesn't ship I am going to play it safe and continue looking at the new compal

 

Its win-win essentially as my order won't even ship until August...so by that time the price may plummet to the level of the EPP.

I would be more hesitant I suppose if I knew the order would ship right away with the warranty compromised still in question.

I saw the T60 at Circuit City today, and here's hoping T61 has a brighter screen.

 

It's 6/11 and my laptop better ship or else I'm going to whine like the other members of this forum.

 

mine changed to August 2nd. ugh. what the hell is gonna happen now?

 

Mine hasn't changed yet, but I guess it will if yours did. Time to kick their ass!

 

My order (EPP, R61) was pushed back from a 6/11 ship date to a 6/28. With all the people getting instant ship dates using EPP within the last week or so, I'm seriously considering cancelling my order and placing it again. Does anyone think that would make sense?

 

that would be great if I remembered Meyers' serial number, lol. But it looks like they all ordered X61's, not T61's.

Mine still shows estimated ship of 6/11. I'll monitor it throughout the day.

 

Mine still says 6/11. It better ship!!

If it doesn't, I'd cancel my order and do it again, but I'll never get as good a price as I did. I'm not in a rush, so I'll just wait. The thing I'm worried about though is if I wait a million years for them to re-enter the order into their computer and they find out I used Meyer, resulting in a cancellation, leaving my up-to-a-month waiting for absolutely nothing.

 

on the lenovoblogs.com site, they say not to cancel and reorder, as they're giving priority to old orders over new orders
this is BS
we all know it would just be a pain for them if we all canceled and reordered.
as usual, they're thinking about themselves