LG P310 - 13" - 9600GT 512mb ddr3

yo. you guys seen this?
1018 somethings for an s.cbmbg
i think its wrong, about the CDN dollars. that would make it 920 usd. expecially wrong because it was translated from german.
i guess its possible that they are selling this in combination with a phone contract? seems pretty odd and crazy.
especially because of the mobile homes just kidding.
anyway, they DO ship to the US. havent emailed them cause they have a section on it in their website. 39 to ship to the us.

even if it comes out to be 1500 in USD im pretty psyched about how affordable that is sounding.


okay, hmm this cant be right. can a german speaker confirm?

 

are you guys serious? it looks like theyre selling an lg p310 for 850 euro. isnt this pretty like crazy?

 

thanks for the link! The P310-S.CBRAG has the same GPU (9600GT) as the P310 spotted at IFA, but a slower and cooler CPU, which seems more likely. But the information is odd because the P9500 is usually running at 2,5 and not 2.2 GHz.

 

Hi guys!

I bought P310 Tarsia S.CBRAG, but I´m having a lot of problems with CPU. It overloads very fast with programs as Cubase (for music production). I don´t know if it´s normal. At SAT they told me that it seems everything OK.

Anybody else with problems?

 

What system are you using? You might be on Low performance mode (In Vista click on battery and go high performance) or you have silent mode on FN+ FAN switches between them. Otherwise i dont know I have 2.26 cpu and overclocked GPU and I run all games on Highest with AA hope that helps a bit

 

I recently installed Windows 7 (without Intel Turbo Memory) and it was running great when suddenly the battery icon says "Consider replacing your battery"... Does anyone have this problem with Win7?

 

I do but I don't think you should worry about it, I read of a lot of people getting that message and my battery works just fine

 

YES. probably P31o users will eventually stumble upon this issue sooner or later. It seems that the interface between BIOS/ACPI is not ready for windows7 at the moment. according to my research during the last days this problem is not LG-specific but appears to happen with other notebooks too. in a microsoft-forum (technet) a moderator explain what can be done:

well, as the system just works fine, probably no strange behaviour is apparent to the user. In my case though, battery time is less tahn 2h (was/is 3.5h with the parallel installed windows XP on a second partition) AND it seems that the different power states which are offered by these dual core chipsets are not natively used by windows 7 (because there is no driver support/ACPI tables/BIOS-issues/whatever). So, windows7 could do better, there is potential for correcting the power/energy options.


write to LG support to let them know that we P310 users, a technology-affine user group, which of course also uses Windows 7, are demanding a windows7 upgrade of BIOS or batterymiser/other LG service programs. Only if we ask for that support we might have a chance to get an update. If LG thinks the number of users with the problem is too low, they will do nothing.

some links:

MS Technet

German P310 Thread


What are other P310 Users thinking?

 

Hi, can someone please give me a link or some advice for the win 7 drivers for the P310 please ? (Preferably all of the available ones!) I am looking but having a hell of a time finding them.

Many thanks in advance.

Sneakers

 

please, be more specific.

if you install Windows7 on the p310 you will find out that ALL driver are installed already.

going onwards from that starting point you COULD ask which newer drivers are available.

graphics is the first bet to go for, as the standard driver does nothing more than displaying the desktop. A thread combining a lot of P310 information is here, let this be start for your own research (scroll to Windows7 section, driver names can easily be understood even if its not in english)


the problem with windows 7 therefore are not accounted to driver support, but to LGs software, especially that there are only Vista versions of OSD and batterymiser. Maybe it is also neccessary to upgrade the BIOS.

so please, everyone interested in using Windows 7 on the P310 inform LG via their support form that we have a need for a Windows7 adapted BIOS and service software. That is the way how to do it! Read the above linked topics in other forums for more information

 

Hi -igel,

Thanks for your response. My mistake, I was a little vague, but having read that people were using Win 7 drivers I thought some had been released by LG that I couldn't find.

I was under the impression that the drivers installed by Win 7 were generic ones and while these allow your machine to function, that ones specifically coded for the P310 tailored by LG or otherwise would in certain cases provide better performance.

I suppose I was looking for peoples experiences with drivers and what had and had not worked for them, as I now realise that LG P310 official Win 7 drivers have not been released.

For instance the generic Win 7 drivers do not bring up an OSD on the P310 however the Vista x64 drivers works great on the Win7 x64 version I am using.

Appreciate the thread that you linked to, unfortunately German is not my first language, so I'll need to run it through Babelfish, but I am certain it will of benefit, thank you for this.

Regards,

Sneakers

 

Today I recieved an answer from LG support which translated into english like this:

"Thank you for your questions. Unfortunately the P310 does not support Windows7. If at all and when Windows 7 will be supported, we can not answer at the moment. In most cases, Windows Vista drivers are compatible."

well, thank you LG for this answer. Unfortunately, the Windows Vista drivers in this case are NOT compatible for the most prominent feature of a portable computer, the energy management.

so again, to all P310 users who intend to use Windows 7: please contact LG and let them now that we want a solution. If they dont realize that we are many and that i might be worth the effort, the situation will stay unsatisfying.

@sneakers: you are right, even if it seems that the FN-keys are hardcoded to the BIOS and working "right out of the box", an visual confirmation is not presented in Windows 7, until you install the Vista version of the LG service program "On Screen Display". Like batterymiser, this seems to crash from time to time and needs adjustment to W7.

for the german P310-thread, you might just go for the very first two posts as they contain the links to driver etc. if you have further questions let me know

 

Hello, I have a P310 Tarsia and it doesn't seem like LG have updated the BIOS since it's release. Does anyone know where I can downalod a bios update? The intel support downloads only provide desktop motherboard bios updates, and phoenix technologies doesn't release their drivers directly to consumers.

This reflects extremely poorly on LG's part for not supplying the update on their support website (noe even the german one).

 

to my knowledge, there wasnt a BIOS-update until now for the p310 series. and as I see it, intel and phoenix are not the right adresses, only LG themself could adapt the phoenix BIOS specifically for their laptops. so, hopefully, with windows7 becoming more popular, we will see an upgrade from LG.

 

Well thats what I thought. Damn. Again, what pathetic customer support on LG's part. Based on their email reply, they aren't releasing an update soon. I --and many other P310 owners-- am not impressed.

Phoenix's website points to biosagentplus.com for updates, but this is a paid service ($39.99) and I think they offer a custom bios based on your laptops hardware. What do you all think? Worth it?

 

The reason I need a new bios is to modify some settings that the current bios won't let me touch and I presume any newer one will. This is because I want to install mac snow leopard on it.

Has anyone had any success installing snow leopard onto their P310? If you have, do you multiboot or do you just run snow leopard, and how did you do it?

EDIT: contcted biosagentplus.com and was told that they don't offer LG updates and that the only way to get them was to contact LG directly. Damn you LG. So if you have any info on snow leopard please reply here.

 

Hi, I installed Win7 64bit on my P310 with some Vista 64drivers and almost everything is fine except the part about the battery and overclocking...

If you go few post back you can see my GPU overclocking results (3dMark06 7.500points) on XP with Ati Tool which i liked the most. I tried installing it on Win7 but it doesnt work cause some kernel files are missing or smtng like that. I installed RivaTuner and Evga overclocking tools but they wont let me pass certain frequencies while overcloking i can turn everything to max but can go over it. I remember having same issue on XP but Ati Tool worked perfectly letting me set the clocks I want.

Now can someone explain why Riva Tunner wont let me go pass certain frequencies and ATI tool did on XP and it was all good. I wanted to try and see how Win7 handled overclocking Etc,

Thanks a lot.

 

any1 got a solution how to fix Win7 battery issues on p310? Also my p310 is running a bit hot on win7 64bit. thx

 

did you contribute already sth for our common concern and contacted LG about that issue? Only if people are expressing their need for an update LG will finally recognise the need to act.

 

Why are you so in need for batterymiser?
I use windows XP 6b bit edition (i like it cause it's fast and not so overloaded with crap) and didn't event installed the batterymiser (if available). I use the default battery management from windows and this little notebook acts great. I get usualy over 3 hours of normal use (music, browsing wireless, youtube, pr0n, etc )

 

You can use rivatuner to overclock on win7, bypass the clock limits through the poweruser tab there is a setting.
I am having a different problem. The fan on my computer refuses to go to full blast.
I reset the bios settings, and it worked fine for 20min and then went down again (while i was still playing a game->computer was still very hot). I have no clue what is going on.
Booting back to XP gives same problem, although i havent tested bios reset+boot directly to XP and see if the problem goes away.

 

OK so if i power down and unplug the system (with no battery) when i boot next the fan will work normally for like 15min and then go back to medium.
XP or 7 doesnt seem to matter.
Maybe i should send it back to LG but this is currently my main computer so...

 

It looks like I missed the boat on this one - right? The P310 has been discontinued and the R380 is its replacement?

Anybody know anyone who has old stock of the P310 Tarisa's and is still selling them. I don't see anything even close in today's market.

Bronsky

 

um
im not really up on all the lg models and successors but im pretty sure the r380 isnt a replacement to the p310.
the p310 is for "business" and no the r series, they are for completely different markets. im pretty sure there will be a new 13" p series at some point.
its pure conjecture though, i guess. someone correct me if im wrong.

 

You may be right. Although the new widebook line has been introduced, which includes the R380, the P310 is still listed on the Notebook.de site. See here - http://www.notebook.de/index.php?section=shop&group=767&lang=en. I have emailed them to see if they are still available.

Less than 24 hours ago, the Asus UL30VT was released for sale with a duo core 7400 1.4 ghz CPU and a GeForce 210M graphics card. The unit is for sale for $800 and comes with Windows 7 professional 64 bit. It is a nice unit, and probably as close as one can get to the LG at this point.

Is anyone having real issues with the LG running WIndows 7 64 bit?

Bronsky

 

You can buy this awsome Asus on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/UL30Vt-X1-13-3-Inch-Laptop-Windows-Premium/dp/B002XZLURC/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1258821657&sr=8-6

I also have the P310 and I was wandering if we can had a ssd HD in addition with the current HD in the notebook?
Thanks !

 

Where did you get drivers for XP 64Bit? How is it working for you, having any software issues etc?

 

Yeah this new Asus looks sweet with great battery life but can Nvidia 210M get 7500points in 3dmark06? I dont think so.. thats what im getting when overclocking and can play MW2 at native 1280x800 everything highest AA 2x, but no shadows and softened smoge edges. Looks pretty sweet, still wating for Battlefield Bad Company 2 Beta to be released in January to see how p310 handles it

 

No question that the P310 is the most powerful 13" laptop produced in recent years. If it was on the market, it would be my "hands down" first choice for a new ultralight. The problem is that it is now unavailable. It has been discontinued and I see no replacement on the horizon. I think that it was just too expensive to produce for LG or they had no idea how to market this wonderful machine.

Amazon sold out all of its stock of the UL30VT is a matter of a couple of days. I can only imagine how well the P310 would have sold if it was distributed in the US. On pure performance, the UL30VT can't hold a candle to the P310. It's 3DMark06 scores are in the 3,500 range, not 7,000.

Actually, the closest 13" ultraslim notebook to the P310 is probably the Sony Viao Z

P8800 duo core @ 2.66 ghz
4 GB DDR3 Ram
GeForce 9300M GS (256)

Still a cut below the P310. However, I am hoping that Sony will be revamping its Viao series after the new year and will be upgrading its graphics capability. I would hope that a new version of the Viao Z will include something like a GeForce GT 240M (1GB) which is currrently installed in 14" Sonys or the ATI HD 4670 (1GB). Either of these cards, coupled with a decent processor, should be able to outperform the P310 and post higher 3DMark06 scores, in any speed configuration. Moreover, it should be able to do so on much less power and generating less heat.

Maybe LG will even release an updated version of the P310, but I'm not holding my breath. I think the widescreen R380 is the replacement for the 310 and its clearly a couple of steps in the wrong direction. LG did the same thing with the evolution of its P100 (X100), 10.1". The 10.1" had specs similar to my 15" Dell Vostro in a netbook sized computer with a GeForce 8400M GPU and a detachable tablet screen. It was an incredible mini-laptop. If it was on the market today, I would probably prefer it to the 13" P310. The X120, the P100's successor, is an single core Atom/Netbook clone that is nothing to write home about. I think LG is retreating from the high-end market. For now, I guess I am keeping my Dell Vostro 1500 until I find a 13" or smaller ultraslim laptop with specs equilavent to the P310. So far, the Vostro has served me well and I can wait for the market to evolve.

Dell Vostro 1500
T5470 duo core @ 1.6 ghz
2 GB DDR2 Ram
GeForce GT 8600M (256)
3DMark06 = 3654 1200x800 native
4346 overclocked (186.6)

Bronsky

 

Hi all,

Is there anybody that has replaced the standard HDD with an SSD solution?
How difficult was it?
Are there any directions around on how to open the laptop (without voiding the warranty if possible) ?

Ty,
Nick

 

a new lg bios update was released 3 weeks ago for many LG models.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5524715

Would this work on the p310? Has anyone tried?

 

Hi, I need a proffesional opionion between XP 64 and Windows 7.

Currently im dual booting XP 32Bit and Win7 64bit, however i've got few questions:

1. I love almost everything about Win7, 64bit is ultra fast but im not satisfied with battery life (or "Consider replacing your battery" problem) which only gives me about 2/hrs of bat life (on XP around 3/h and 15min). I know its up to LG to release new drivers.. so have to wait.

2. Im running XP 32 now and my question is if i install 64bit will it give me same performance as Win7 64bit including Core2Duo support ? Where can I get drivers for it? I can sacrifice new Win7 bar for good 64bit and battery life.

3. I've read that XP still outperforms Win7 in gaming (FPS) and benchmarks which is why i want well performing XP 64bit.

4. Are temperatures on 7 higher than XP? I'm overclocking my 9600m gt and it gets up to 95celcuius so just wanted to know if 7 has higher temps if i considered overclocking it.

Thanks a lot for your views

 

Hi Nick,

I did exactly that just a couple of weeks ago. It was already my second disk replacement operation, so I am quite familiar with the inside of the lappy I created a tutorial with pictures the first time I changed my HDD and posted it on a Polish notebookcheck forum. Here's a translated version: P310 disk swap. The procedure is complicated, but with some patience you should be able to do it. Let me just tell you that going for an SSD is well worth it. My boot time is now about 46 seconds, and all the apps start almost instantly.

EDIT: I just noticed that the pictures are not shown in the google translation, so I attached them to this post (well the first six, as this is the limit for me).


On a different note: I've noticed a few users complaining about the keyboard paintwork. I have the same problem. At least 10 of my keys are already chipped and I'm afraid others will follow soon. I am going to visit an authorised LG service tomorrow. I will let you guys know what they said.

I am also concerned by the poor power management in Win7 and the "consider replacing your battery" message. I tried to send some messages to LG, but it seems their site is down - no matter which page I go to in lge.com, I get an error message That's a real shame, LG!

 

Look below for the remaining 3 pictures for my tutorial. Combined with the translated text linked above this should be enough for anyone who knows how to use a screwdriver


EDIT:
If someone in the UK would still like to buy an LG P310, you just got lucky. I am in possession of a new, never been used model, which I am willing to sell. I will be bringing it to the UK on the 1st of January. If there will be no interest from the forum, I will put it on ebay priced around 1000 GBP.

If you are interested send me a PM, and we will discuss it in more detail.

 

any word on a cost of replacing a keyboard? And win7 battery issue. Thx m8

 

I visited an authorised service partner of LG today and they said that this is the first time they see such a problem with the keyboard, so they would have to send the laptop for testing to decide whether it is indeed a faulty paintjob or if I was pressing the buttons too hard If they say it's my fault the new keyboard should cost around 200PLN (that's roughly 45GBP or 50EUR).

About the win7 battery issue - there are no solutions yet. It seems that Microsoft does not feel any obligation to fix it and puts the responsibility on the manufacturer. I emailed LG asking about drivers for Win7, but they just told me that at the moment there are no drivers. I am afraid that they will never come up with those updated drivers or bios for our model, as it has been discontinued...

 

LG produced a laptop that is clearly a cut above all others and then, instead of improving it and placing it into wider distribution, discontinues it. Not only that, they fail to support the P310 with updated bios and drivers for Windows 7. You have to wonder who is in charge of the notebook division at LG and why they still have a job.

 

I couldn't agree with you more. For a while I hoped that LG will be the ones to actually go crazy and put an i7 into a 13" form factor together with some top notch gfx card, but now I know this will not happen. Maybe the new MacBook Pro, then?

 

You kidding? Apple'd philosophy is to put the cheapest possible parts in a system, and then charge the most possible for it. I should know, I've got a Macbook with a GMA 950.

 

The new Sony Z 13.1" (1600 x 900) ultraslim will have an I5 240, 2.4 ghz (3gb cache), 4 gb ram DDR3, a 128 GB solid state drive and a NVIDIA GT 330 1GB graphics card. The price is $1,600. Looks like Sony has improved on the P310's specs.

This looks sweet.

 

Just anounced at CES today - Alienware (aka Dell) 11.6" netbook with a Geforce GT 335M card. No details on the CPU yet but the price is projected to be under $1,000. On the other hand, LG introduced a X300 ultraslim 11.6" notebook. No idea about specs yet.

Bronsky

 

looking good, if it gets around 7.5k or 8k in 3dmark06 with default clocks it would be possible to OC it to around 9k which would be fcng amazing Im on P310 and I OC all the time from stock 6.2k to 7.5k ;] and everything plays nicely. I'm wating for first reviews with benchmarks and we'll see how it goes xD

 

Please help!

My tarsia won't turn on and the charge light doesn't turn on when the power cable's plugged in. The power adapter is working as I checked it with a volt meter.

I think the psu or connector was blown by a power surge.
I'm scared of letting a repair shop fix it and I bought the laptop from Germany and am in Thailand for the next 3 months so I'd rather fix it myself if possible. Can anyone tell me what parts I'd need to replace and if I can get them on ebay etc. ?

I'm nothing without my tarsia so any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Good news! It seems that LG is working on the drivers for Win7. This is the message I got from LG UK customer support when I inquired about the battery issue:

During the first year the warranty is international, so you might try servicing it in Thailand...

Regarding the new sony vaio Z and Alienware M11x - impressive stuff. I think that 11 inches is too little for gaming, but the Sony for now looks like my next lappy, unless I finally decide to go into the tablet direction and opt for the upcoming Lenovo Thinkpad X210t.

 

I am leaning toward the Sony Z as well. But just to complicate things, there are the Asus UL30JT and the Fujitsu S760 to consider.

Asus UL30JT - 13.3" 16:9 (1366 x 768) LCD, Core I7 640UM, 4GB DDR3, 7200 RPM drive (not ssd), GeForce 310 /1GDDR3 VRAM (speculation is that the 310 does not come with 1GB and therefore Asus may have mislabeled the card and may be using an upgraded card - dare we hope for a 335M GT?), 1.5 kg. (8 weeks away)

Fujitsu S760 Core I7 640UM and NVIDIA dedicated graphics (512VRAM). (full specs and information next month)

Also wondering if HP will be refreshing its envy 13 with an I5/I7 and better graphics capability (ATI 5 series?).

I too am interested in a tablet. The most interesting thing I have seen so far is the HP prototype displayed at the CES. Waiting to see what Apple does on the 28th and what HP does in response.

It's lamentable that we aren't talking about any LG notebooks.

Bronsky

 

From listed laptops which one of them could live up with performace to P310 ? I've read that m11x is going to have 1.3mhz cpu which to me sounds a bit weak althouh i dunno how they compare to P series cpus. You think any of them would get over 8000 points in 3Dmark06 ? Im getting 7.5k with high overclock but not sure if I should be selling my P310 to get something which performs a bit better... Can u give me your opinion plz thx

 

The Dell x11 is more of a netbook with an awesome dedicated graphics chip. I agree that 11.1" screen is too small for serious graphics work or gaming. It is amazing to see a Geforce 335M GT in such a small body though.

The Sony Z will clearly outperform the P310. The GeForce 330M GT is 30% more capable than the 9600M GT. The I5 processor in the base model ($1,900 USD) is a 2.4 ghz and it appears that the Z will be offered with an option for an I7 640. It will also have a 128gb ssd drive standard, upgradable to 512gb.

All of this on less power, with less heat and with 4-6 hours of batter life. When there is no need to use the GPU, it can be switched to Intel HD4500 integrated graphics and the battery life will go up to 6-8 hours. The new Z is a significant step above the P310.

The Asus UL30JTwill only be a serious contender if it drops the Geforce 310M GPU and upgrades to a 330M GT or 335M GT. At that point, it will have the same I7 core as the z (overclocked?) and a similar GPU for $900 less. The UL30JT is also switchable from dedicated GPU to integrated graphics to keep battery life in the 9 hour range. So, if the UL30JT comes with an upgraded GPU, it will clearly outperform the P310 for a cost of around $1,000.

I would expect either of these units to score in the 7,000 range naturally in 3DMark06 and higher when overclocked.

It is a no brainer for me, since I have no laptop currently (borrowing my wife's Lenovo S12 Ion Netbook). If I had a p310, I might be tempted to hold tight to see if anyone builds a similar unit with a 5000 series ATI GPU and an I7 CPU.

Bronsky

 

In case someone would be interested, I finally prepared a selling advert for the NBR marketplace. In short: Less than a year old LG P310 is now up for grabs in the UK

 

For someone that needs a high performance slim/small laptop now, this is a great buy. You have kept it in beautiful condition. I don't think the alienware x11 competes with this unit. Only the new Core I7 Sony Viao can compete with this. They wont be readily available for another 3 or 4 months and should cost twice as much. You should have no problem selling this at your asking price.

Bronsky

 

allienware M11X is faster than this model.