LG P330 (i7 + Nvidia 555m!)

I can find NVIDIA_DEV.0DCD.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M"
but not %NVIDIA_DEV.0DCD.01% = Section102, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0DCD
My GT 555m hardware id seems to be PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1248&SUBSYS_30051854

 

Okay, try the one I attach.

 

Thanks Lee!!!
I could download the driver 290.36, I think it s not official yet.
The 295.18 driver immediately crashed my notebook.
So if I understand correctly, all I need to do now is to add this inf file with any driver from Nvidia?
Or should I redo this with each original driver?
I copied the inf on 290.36 and 290.58 and both could install.
So I tried diablo 3 beta and now it works! The game can be maximized and it s still really fluid even with 5 monsters on screen (I tried 5mn).
I will continue to make more tests and I will start the review thread...

 

Just use that inf for a while. Most likely since this is newer version of GT555M, the installer haven't have the required hardware id in its inf yet.

 

Off-topic - I'm still waiting for a D3 beta key

And thanks Natadiem and I look forward to your review thread

 

285.62 don't work?
Graphics Driver - Verde 285.62 Driver - GeForce
others are beta so not recommend

also look at LG site lgservice.co.kr

lg P330 driver: LG?? ??? ??? ?? > ????????

nVidia GeForce 2011-12-22/2011-11-02
Ver 8.17.12.8564 (y 285.64?) LG?? ??? ?? - ???? ?? - ???? / SW

btw, Happy New Year!
and P330 for everyone in 2012!

 

Did we ever determine whether this was really worth importing? Is there going to be something comprable / better in Q1 2012? I'm really looking for something like the Z1 (great portability / battery life for non gaming functions) with an awesome screen / video card and heat management. The Z1 has a side vent so you can put it on your lap and use it without heat issues.

What's the word on this stuff?

 

natadiem could you run prime 95 and furmark at the same time and check temperatures ?

happy new years btw

 

Sure I will try shortly and let you know.

 

Ambiant degree is around 20-22.
With furmark 1.6.5 (the donut benchmark) and with Prime 95 (basic benchmark).
The notebook went from 41 degrees idle for GPU to 65 degrees.
I made the test with furmark 2 times and 65 is the maximum degree.
I will post the CPU result shortly.
Also the noise is no problem at all, way better than the M14x.

 

Ok same test with prime 95 running with furmark 2 cycles:
Max CPU temp was 79 degrees.

I would like to add that because of the 1366 resolution from this notebook, I had to choose 1024 bench in the furmark test. Probably it helps a bit compared to the 1280.

I don t know for you but I am very happy with the results so far.

Concerning the drivers, I could modify properly the inf in order to get the 290.36 but I have no luck 290.53 my inf doesn t work maybe...

Skyrim perf is already stellar but there is nothing wrong with playing ultra at high fps with 1366 res, right .

 

Well, I can just give you my personal word based on 2 days limited utilization.

I owned almost all the small gaming notebooks : Sony Z with GT330M, LG P310 with GT9600m, M14x with same gpu than this one.
I also had a p150hm that I loved for portability and power but didn t kept it because of small battery life.

So far I can say, that the notebook is silent at idle and doesn t make as much noise as m14x when on load. Temps are no problem and you can maximize new games at the 1366 res.

The battery is around 5-6h while working with 70% brightness.

All of this with a nice dark blue business like enclosure which weight 1.7kg.

So yes, for me it s a winner, I definitely cannot compare it with the M14x. It s smaller with same perf. Even the screen brightness is better but I think the contrast on m14x was better (900p screen). Also colours are way better than m14x.

I have (for the moment because I will sell shortly) a wonderful mbp 17 which I love for its screen.
But I can live with the LG P330 screen, I couldn t with M14x.

So yeah for me I think I found my graal for the moment.

However there are a few problems: my SSD 512gb M4 crucial was not recognized (a korean started a thread about it on crucial forum and I am also participating).
And so far we are very few to have it, so for the nvidia drivers I am on my own so far and I can t get the 290.53 working.

Voila, please keep in mind this is my opinion and I am not a fanboy, I will buy any brand which offers me the greatest power in small package with good battery.
Of course I can be wrong, but this is not a coincidence to have korean notebook seller with such a powerful ultrabook with middle up gpu. Koreans play SC2 even the business men. In Japan they are happy with monster hunter, that s why Japanese brands notebook usually have middle low gpu. It s more than enough for SF4 and devil may cry...

The only competitor from the lg p330 would be the lg p330 with the IPS screen as it was expected at the beginning. There is no words of it yet, but they had a prototype with it...That would be an amazing gaming machine...

Oh yeah, the side vent is very well thought. There is three large entrances actually. No problem to game with skyrim on high/ultra on my lap.

 

Thanks a ton. If they put a solid screen on it I'll buy it.

Anything on the horizon?

 

@Natadiem, does it throttle if you trying to game in battery ?

 

Natadiem, exactly how bad are the speakers?

I don't care about the quality, but what about the maximum volume what is it compareable to?

When watchign the youtube videos, i can't see a grill for the speakers so they must be the bottom of the machine right?

What do you think they are, 2watt speakers at least? 1.5watt maybe lol does it say on the spec sheet

 

which NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M does the P330 have?

GeForce GT 555M

and if it is the 96 shader version is that a native 96 shader GPU, or a 192 shader gpu with half the shaders disabled?

cheers.

 

I tried with D3, if I put maximum performance within the battery option, then there is no problem (and the battery goes in 40mn-1hour).
If I leave the balance power setting, yeah it throttles a bit, the gpu is crippled.

 

I am coming from M14x, P150HM and MBP17 which all have above average speaker quality.
The P330 speakers are doing an average job I would say. If you stay around the notebook it will be alright but don t expect the notebook to fill your hotel room with music... I think they are at bottom front, because the notebok has a trapeze shape the speakers are not totally under the bottom. Still they are not powerful (weaker than my previous laptop), I am not home so I don t have access to the spec sheets. I will do later (but I don t read Korean).

 

This is exactly what I have as well.

 

Any chance for overclocking result ?

 

awesome Natadiem thanks for the reply. I'm coming from a studio xps 1340 which had horrible 2w each speakers which put out horrible volumes.

I was considering the msi x460dx but then i saw that it had 1.5w each speakers.

I'm hoping the lg p330 can put out at least an average notebook volume if so i'm gonna get it for sure.

I would love to see you do a video review or at least just a full regular review of the machine for us

 

Oh, that wasn't a screenshot from my computer. I simply posted the picture from one of the reviews to answer REMF's question regarding the specific version of the GPU. However, I have sent an email to Ryan confirming that I would like to buy the UE70K from him, so I'll hopefully get one eventually. Thanks for providing useful information regarding this laptop! I'm looking forward to your review as well.

 

Cool! I really hope that more of us get this lappy soon. I think it s a good idea to get the i7 version.

It cost a lot more but in the end, it s just amazing to have such a powerful cpu and gpu in such a small package. When you realize that the notebook is 300 grams lighter than an m11x!

Another good news is that I didn t have to pay anything to customs when I received this notebook. I usually have to for stuff not available in Japan. The package was so small and light that I though they forgot the lappy. I also have two batteries, so I can make a full 12hours flight of work with the laptop.

I am gathering information at the moment for my review. I would like to pass a few days, because you are always overly optimistic when a new purchase fits your needs. Maybe I will grab another SSD from a friend and test if it s only the Crucial M4 which is not compatible for the moment.

By the way, this is the thread in crucial where I am talking about this issue:
Re: crucial m4 256gb 0009 , bios does not see it. ... - Crucial Community

In the end, I will get the msata 256gb from samsung when it s available in Japan. Then I will add a 512gb SSD in order to complete my mobile gaming/powerstation quest ...for the moment, haha.

Ah yeah, last thing, I finished the D3 beta with the lappy yesterday evening. I tried to gather as many enemies as possible in the same room and I used all the effects I could do with my monk. With everything maximized I noticed zero lag or any problem. On my MBP17 I had to reduce the res, it wasnt possible to get this at native full HD.
You will have the FPS report on my review. I prefer to post all the final results in the same place.

 

Upgrading to an i7 would diminish the battery life by quite a bit would it not?

 

^if its idle, the difference should be minimal..
If under load, then yes.

 

Sounds like you have everything under control, Natadiem! I forgot to ask: which case are you using? I'm looking at the Booq Vyper XS3 since I want something that can tolerate pressure but doesn't take a lot of space. It is made for the MBP 13" though, so it might be troublesome becuase of the height. The exterior dimensions of the case are 343x244x40mm, while the MBP measures 325x227x24.1mm. The P330 measures 315.4x216.4x22.1~32mm, so that's 7.9mm thicker at its thickest compared to the MBP.

 

At the moment I don t have any case sleeve. I have an old booq messenger bag from 5 years ago which was ok for P310, I think it will be no problem with LG P330. I ll check when I am back home.

 

LG P330


M14x


So the differences seem to be the band- and buswidth (128 vs 192), core clock and ROPS?

The 555m in the m14x does seem more powerful, but the portable size of the lg p330 makes me think about selling the m14x..

The LG p330 was announced for january 2012 in germany, so we will see ^^

 

Any source on that?

Looking forward to the LG P330, but I need a new laptop by february :-/

 

@Zamzum:
Here the text in english

I am from Germany and waiting for the p330 since I got the money of my Acer TimelineX back

 

Natadiem mentioned in his first impressions that the M14x seemed to run hotter than the P330. If so, the GT 555M should have a higher OC potential in the P330. Even if the P330 wouldn't be able to beat the M14x performance wise, it's still a much more interesting laptop in my eyes since it comes so close while maintaining lighter than the MBP 13".

 

your right convel, but consider this the m14x uses a real quad core! and they obviously run hotter than the i7 2640m and i5 2430m!

The m14x does run hotter sporting a real quadcore i7 (starting at 2630qm up to 2820qm or now 2860 whatever xD) and a mobile GPU that is about 15 to 20 Percent faster in games than the 128bit downgrade version of the 555m!

Also, I am one of those rare i5 2430m m14x owners, and the max CPU temperature is avg. 75 degrees and GPU 65 degrees (absolute maximum), so with an i5 the m14x is relatively cool too

And the 555m in the m14x is a very good overclocker (many ppl here overclock it even with a quad) and since its stronger anyways, you would not reach the same OC potential with the lg p330 since the downgraded 128bit 555m is weaker...

But I absolutely agree with the formfactor, its very portable for such strong hardware! Thats why I am thinking about selling

M14x
+HD+ 1600x900 Screen
+Great Keyboard
+Best Mobile GPU for formfactor and size (and with optimus)
+Relatively good speakers (even a subwoofer, a real small one xD)
-Kinda bulky even for 14 inch
-Runs hot with a quad (not in my case!)
-Battery fixed (damn!) But you could probably get a replacement one anyways since you just have to unscrew the bottom and exchange the battery then

LG P330
+Great GPU and CPU for a 13 inch
+Battery Life (prolly a bit longer than the m14x)
+Relatively Cool CPU + GPU (as it seems)
+Exchangeable battery! (does anyone know where you can get one??)
-HD 768p Display
-Bad Speakers (from what natadiem says)

Thats just my impression maybe it helps someone here And thanks natadiem for the info

btw this german source ( News - LG's 13-Zoll Laptops - Ultrabook und Subnotebook-'Gamer' mit IPS auf notebookjournal.de) claims the releasedate for germany is january 2012

 

Id really like to see Skyrim performance if any owners have the game. FPS, settings, temps. Thanks

 

Res = 1366x768
Driver = 290.36 64b
Skyrim Ultra (basic settings untouched) = 21 FPS
Skyrim High = 35 FPS
Skyrim middle = 56 FPS
Temperature after 5 minutes play = 50 degrees.
I used FRAPS.

 

Now this is a test with my own settings.
AA = 4 samples
AF = 8 samples
Texture quality = High
Radial blur = Low
Shadow = Low
Decal Quantity = High
No FXAA
Water reflect land on.
View distance = Object fade (8), Actor fade (8), Grass fade (3), Specularity Fade (8), Light fade (14), item fade (6), Distant object detail (high) Object detail fade = on.
With this I got = 55 fps on average.

 

Diablo 3 beta
Same driver and same res.
Everything max, vertical sync off
Average FPS = 62

 

Dead Island, everything maxed.
=> 53 FPS

 

For me I would add that the LG P330 have a better keyboard to type (feels like typing on MBP) but the M14x has illuminated keyboard.
Also LG P330 has msata and sata, so you can in theory add a 256gb msata and a 1tb HDD... You need to replaced the DVD slot to do that on M14x.

The battery was no problem to buy, all P330 reseller in Yongsan seems to have it. So once it s available in Germany you should have no problem to have 2.

I am still not convinced that M14x and LG P330 should be compared. At 2.7 kgs, the M14x is close to a P150HM with GTX 580M!

I think the LG P330M competitors are the Sony Vaio S, Z, Acer TimeX etc.

If you enjoy light gaming and very casual but you need to work and have many space on the desktop. I still think the Sony Z is the best choice.

I owned M14x and P330 and I really have the feeling to have a very small laptop now. With the M14x, I was feeling more like small 15 inch like a MBP.

I think that AW should have put a GTX560m in the M14x, even crippled a little bit.
If LG can put a 555m in a 13 enclosure, I see no reason why they can t do it. They should prioritize the GPU and CPU cooling and forget about design&mkg.
1600x900 was a bit too much for the 555m with newest games. I always had to lower the res and lose the native superior visual.

Now I think my 555M feels comfortable with 1366x768. Also with the nice temp I got while playing, I see no reason not to overclock my GPU...

Let s hope LG release this lappy in as many market as possible, so AW feels obliged to upgrade the M11x and M14x GPU.

 

Thanks for all the info and opinions Natadiem, but can you please provide some sort of proof / documentation of these results? I find them somewhat hard to believe from a technical output.

I have an m14x as well, and considering they have pretty much the same graphics card, it doesn't make sense how the m14x's overclocked is the same as the other below the m14x's stock clocks.

Sounds Fishy.

 

Yeah I'm with Mazzacre. Can we see some videos and even screenshots of some of the benchmarks? Settings, temps afterwards, everything included in the video please. And fraps of course for FPS

thanks

 

Fair enough:

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/Natadiem_2009/LG P330/IMG_3304.jpg

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/Natadiem_2009/LG P330/IMG_3303.jpg

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/Natadiem_2009/LG P330/IMG_3302.jpg

 

Seriously?

Saying that to someone online who is going through everything to help you guys get some information?

The resolution will be playing a huge role here, with the 1600x900 of m14x, the gfx card would be crippled in frame rates compared to the 768p of the P330.

Before you throw such comments out, I suggest how you would feel if you were trying to help and people say those things to you.

Remember, this is an online forum, everyone is in it just to help others out, no money or benefits involved.

 

That's very generous of you.

Thanks for all the information. Hyttjo will also be receiving his soon, he should have some comparable benchmarks as he will get the UE40K with the i5 version.

 

Prime 95 and furmark (sorry for the pictures quality):
http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/Natadiem_2009/LG P330/IMG_3308.jpg
http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/Natadiem_2009/LG P330/IMG_3307.jpg
http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/Natadiem_2009/LG P330/IMG_3306.jpg
http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/Natadiem_2009/LG P330/IMG_3305.jpg

 

Hey Natadiem,

Thanks for those, sorry for lack of clarity, i specifically was referring to skyrim and Dead island.. (I forget to write everything im thinking sometimes xD)

now.. as for you. If you read my post, i was very polite. Is it wrong to ask someone to provide some proof of their results?? If so then I can understand why this forum has such ludicrous results at times (not referring to Natadiem's). As for the resolution remark. Resolution does play a role, not a crippling one as you state it, but definitely a role.

That role however, isn't equivalent to the difference between a clock of ~520 and a clock of 770mhz core.

Now before YOU throw such comments out there, i advise you to THINK from the viewpoints of others. I do not personally know Natadiem, and i found something that appears to disobey the understandings of a component. These results had (and still have given i do not have the game he posted an SS of) no comparable proof, leading me to believe that the numbers may have been "guesstimated" and/or inaccurate.

And just so you remember, this is the internet. People can and will be whoever they want to be. For all we know Natadiem could be a rep from LG and I could be the King of England. My point is to remind you that people DO take money to write things on the internet. Specifically forums to advertise products in case you are too naive to realize that as well.

And yes, I did just call you naive. Next time have a reason before calling me out.

 

Take it however you want. We don't know him personally and it could have easily been seen as a guess, in which we just wanted to see statistics.

But youre right, I should start trusting people more. I was just the millionth visitor on a website, I should go claim my prize!

But Im very sorry Niatdem if we destroyed your feelings in any way, I just wanted see a video of Skyrim so I could see how it performs in different locations, and the exact results of some of the benchmark programs and ect. Sorry if it was taken as "Youre a big dirty liar and pics or it didnt happen"

 

This is a notebook for korean market only. There is no official plans for outside Korea. At best it would be in Canada and Germany and that s it.
So... the LG rep conspiracy is a bit ridiculous, don t you think?

 

OK.

1. The GT 555m in the P330 has newer architecture than the m14x's GT 555m. That accounts for the difference as well as the resolution. Even though the clocks may seem a lot off, the architecture difference creates such differences per clock speed.

2. Knowing the above, and your "sounds fishy" comment made me believe that you simply believe what you want to believe. This is an online forum, you are entitled to your own opinions and beliefs. Now that Natadiem has posted his proof, you should believe what he has stated. I for one part, believe in what Natadiem has posted because I've seen his posts, his experiences, and the fact that we all share a common interest in this P330. As I don't have the machine to prove otherwise, I would believe what he posts, and would be thankful that he would even provide results because trust me, I've been around this forum for long and people promise things but never keep to their promise- benchmarks, screenshots, etc. Just the very fact that he is willing to give us information should be thankful enough, and even responding to your "proof" requests when he personally doesn't know you as well itself deserves an applause.

3. All things aside, I do agree that I may have been a bit aggressive and offensive to your comment, but I have seen the Envy forums with the Envy 15, people there just demand what they want to see and what they want to hear. The first one to receive the laptop has no obligation to do so, but people just request on and on about what they want to see and what they wish to hear, not so much as with a thanks. I may have been too hasty in judging you based on your last comment "Sounds fishy" as if Natadiem was trying to pull something, but I think my 1. gave some clarification as to how it could be possible.

Again, I'm on the side that we should all be grateful for anyone who is caring enough to run all these games and benchmarks, temps, and post them online for us to see. Having seen ungrateful people just hoarding the Envy holders with constant harrassment and endless requests without so much as a thank you, I guess I am really biased towards the forum right now.

 

Skyrim with my own settings (explained above):
http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/Natadiem_2009/LG P330/IMG_3311.jpg

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/Natadiem_2009/LG P330/IMG_3310.jpg

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/Natadiem_2009/LG P330/IMG_3309.jpg