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    Discussion in 'MSI' started by faisalhero, Feb 4, 2009.

  1. Rorschach

    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    >.> Why are you using setfsb though, 24% overclock is about what you would get using setfsb, as I recall the latest gx/gt bios version 1.10 has that option available for overclocking. I wasn't able to get setfsb working with the gx/gt bios so I used the latest 1722 bios which is also 1.10, but it removes the overclocking option in the bios. I can upload it if you would like to try it, its guaranteed to work with setfsb.
     
  2. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    he's trying to use setfsb because he's trying to OC a quad, the q9200. Turbo-mode will only OC a quad by 4%.
     
  3. Dead2th3world

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    Coz 24% = 4% on Turbo .. it doesn't seems to increase the clocks that much .. and that's too lame . Ok i'm willing to give a go , how about firmware ? any will do ?

    EDIT : got it , flashing now
    EDIT II : Flashing went fine , resetting cmos & eating m&m's
    EDIT III : It removes ALL the options in the bios BUT Setfsb is working !! just hit 2.7 ! running prime now .... 1 errors on worker 1 ...
    EDIT IV : stable @ 2702.4mhz & ran out of m&m's !(will try higher clocks 2mrw) i wonder what turbo will do under the new bios ... a shame i can't set my rams @ 800 in the bios anymore or change the timings .. how's memset doing for you guys ?

    Thanks man ! tiny boost for you +1 :D
     
  4. Rorschach

    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    what bios r u using? firmware plays roll for cpu overclocking?
     
  6. Rorschach

    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    The only role firmware plays in bios level overclocking is if it disables/enables the overclock button. Firmware= keyboard,touch keys and fans. Bios=compatibility with components and how they are controlled like the voltages for cpu and ram also the frequency the ram is run at ect. I believe theres a conflict though with some of the bios versions with setfsb, because I can use setfsb with bios 1.10 for the 1722 "the barebone model" but if I use the same bios version for the gx/gt models, I can't use setfsb anymore.

    Setfsb would detect the fsb properly once on bootup, but after I tried to change it, it no longer detected anything correctly and it would not change the fsb. intel extreme tuning tool also would not even install. Now that I no longer have any overclocking options in my bios it might work, I'll post back later after testing it.
     
  7. Dead2th3world

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    Agreed , I can confirmed that it does conflict , works flawlessly with the barebone's 1s though ! but if you have a dual core you don't really need the barebone's 1s as turbo will suffice . My c2d P9500 hit 3.1 from 2.5 on turbo
    24% , it increases the ram aswell
     
  8. lenarasss

    lenarasss Notebook Evangelist

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    am soo impressed! rep for u knowleage.NEVER TOOk such answer here.but i cant rep u .why??
    also did u find out whats the difference between my laptop and barebone one? same mobo same firmware and bios and we cant overclock gt model:/// soo strange
     
  9. Dead2th3world

    Dead2th3world Pure Hatred

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    Not same bios , otherwise it would work. Windows saying i should re activate my copy AS there is a hardware change & drivers .... so Rorschach did you managed to change your memory timings ?

    1hr torture no errors.
     
  10. Lambofreak

    Lambofreak I like, love laptops

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    I've sold a few to people on the forums, people on ebay, etc.

    The only custom ones I did where for Darth Bane, they were 2 different images, i ended up sending 4 if I'm not mistaken, 1 spare of each image. Charged $25USD for the lot. ;)
     
  11. Dead2th3world

    Dead2th3world Pure Hatred

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    Great price ! I ordered a pack of 3 from skinstyler for 21$ Incl. free shipping to the UK .. dollars are weak so no big deal :D


    OK that really really suck ! Thanks to M$ BS i can't carry on using my copy of w7 as there is a F. hardware change !!! what kind of **** is that !!!! i'm so F. pissed !
     
  12. lenarasss

    lenarasss Notebook Evangelist

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    ..am trying to find a program to edit my AMI 1.10 ms-1772 bios but i cant find..:///// we just unlock bios and then all are done..overclock without feaR:
     
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    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    TechGPUtool i take it?

    From what i understand flashing the vbios allows you to push it slightly further, i think a person had his memory at like 1125 and memory over 550.

    I may try see how much my memory can take (weathers up for it, UK is still sub - temps hehe.)

    What copy of w7 are you using? i hope its not going to hit me too, (MSDNAA User.)
     
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    Dead2th3world Pure Hatred

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    w7 pro MSDNAA user .... a simple processor upgrade and all this .. gonna call them Bas*****
     
  15. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    Why the hell didn't anyone mention that program when I asked for OC programs?

    THANK YOU SO FREAKING MUCH :D :D :D :D

    MSI afterburner gave me so much trouble. It's a bile of crap for me. For example, it's multi-profile feature is broken and when you OC, it forces the card to stay at the OC speeds all the time (meaning it doesn't down clock after gaming). It doesn't really detect the different power levels at all.

    However, this TechGPU tool detects the different power-levels clocks and allows me to OC each one specifically.

    If I could rep you a thousand times, i would.
     
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    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    That's the student thing right? i got into that. Got me three win7 pro keys.

    What happens when you call the phone number? You should receive an automated voice system that will give you a new key.
     
  17. lenarasss

    lenarasss Notebook Evangelist

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    i cant find the thread for q9000 oc://
     
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    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    Yep , When calling you need to enter 9 sets on 5 numbers , after that the automated told me i should talk to a rep. too late for that it's 22:30 over here

    you can even use the keys from other languages in you account , so you get more than 3 ;) but I used all of em !

    Cobra pointed you to that techgpu thingy yesterday i think :p
     
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    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    Hmm, i hope i dont get hit!

    Although i once think windows 7 went ungenuine? because i swapped my ram sticks around haha!

    Sorry darth, didn't realise you were so after it otherwise i would have shared it much earlier :S.

    Its a very nice tool, does what flash clocking can (push your GPU sir!)


    *Might update the OC thread with a quick easy usage tutorial about the tool.*
     
  21. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    Have you ever had trouble with the reps? I would think they would have 24-hour support, or maybe I'm dreaming, lol.
     
  22. Dead2th3world

    Dead2th3world Pure Hatred

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    Received this kind of msg couple of weeks ago , like i'm not running a genuine windows but disappeared an hour later by itself



    EDIT : no never but soon will ! , 24hrs for the auto W**** but not human
     
  23. lenarasss

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    fuking hard :p...
    catalysm thread... 2.2ghz q9000 and 882mhz RAM :)))
    i can push it more but i want to check temps first
    also i didnt installed Ec that he said i have last one and i disable E-static but i still have underclock to 1.7ghz which is great!! WOWWWWW :p
     
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    ungenuine w7 just now :((((((((((((( WHY??
     
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    I don't care about temps , if ur interested mine is 32 @ 2.7 . only M$ knows
     
  26. Rorschach

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    >.> I never bothered with changing the ram timings, after I found out setfsb quit working, with the gt725 bios, it was pointless. I don't have a turbo button on my laptop ; ;. I can overclock my p7450 up to 2.7ghz with setfsb, but its not 100% stable and at 340fsb it blue screens. So I keep it at 2.65ghz to make sure it runs 100% stable. Which is right around 25% overclock anyways lol. I thought tweaking the ram might let me overclock higher, but I guess I'll just have to live with the way it is.

    I don't have issues with activation either, but then again I'm using xp.
     
  27. UzOmi

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    Hi!

    I just installed Win7 x64 on my GT725 but most of the driver's are not working, and MSI website only has driver's for the 32bit.

    Where i can find those driver's!

    Sorry if someone answered that already, but there is 578 page to look for >.<


    Thanks!
     
  28. Rorschach

    Rorschach Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Windows 7 64bit should cover most of the drivers, use the driver cd that came with it. You should only have to install the cir driver and the 02flash micro card reader driver. You have to go to my computer and explore the cd to do it though.
     
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    Need to re-download the system control manager software from MSI too - its found in the utilities section on the website.

    http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=downloadfile&dno=10455&type=utility
     
  30. Dead2th3world

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    Not all rams can withstand overclocking though , had bad experience with the transend that came with 725 .. anyway 2.65 is pretty good for a p7450 , if you had turbo things would have been easier .. no need to set the clock at every start up . i found a tool , setfsb-auto but i'm hesitating to try it ..

    yeah vista was hassle free although it was crap
     
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    most of the drivers in msi's site support x64.. when you download you will see the x64 folders in most of the drivers.. they just dont show that the driver support x64 i dont know why!?
     
  32. Darth Bane

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    Here's my final clocks. I could easily push the memory more (probably to 1100mhz), but I don't want to risk it. Vantage crashed at 590mhz core.
    It seems the higher the gpu clock, the lower the cpu score.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Very nice :D

    Dont overdo the core, but the memory has a really nice amount of room to OC.
     
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    OK switching back to the bios from MSI's website(GT725) activated my copy of windows by itself .. so it was the barebone bios that was the culprit and not the hardware upgrade ! My 725 appears as the GX720 in Performance and tools section and with the latest it appears as the GT725 .. as windows is dumb , it probably though I installed it on another pc :D
    No overclocking through setfsb anymore ........ I will have to live with the 4%(YAY ! :twitchy:) of the Turbo button.

    Or trade the bloody thing for an X9100
     
  35. lenarasss

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    m8 from ur experience 1.0S bios are the only one that let us overclock q9000 on gt725?
     
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    Hmm, the advents bios allows it, but i dont know which ver it currently is :S will check soon! :).
     
  37. Rorschach

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    It might mean that slic2 was missing from the bios, I bet we could get zfactor to add it to it and that should solve the activation problem with windows 7.
     
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    what do u mean by saying the advents bios..? coz i want to have last bios that let me overclock.thx lot
     
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    So darth, how were you pushing your clocks, did you just go high or do it in small increments and then run a benchmark or what?
     
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    You think so ? as it's the latest , the SLIC table should be about the same. need to mod it so that it also appears like the gt725 and not the gx720 , or even better .. mod the 725's bios to unlock the OC side of it . shame setfsb doesn't work !!!! .Anyway , Heard some good stuff about his alien bios , But doubt he could as he said he's not that familiar with msi
     
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    lol asking for a lot, I pmed zfactor but I might have a friend who can get it done today for you. >.> it might be possible to change the name that appears on the bios but does it really matter if you can overclock your cpu lol?
     
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    I know :D . It doesn't matter for overclocking but i'm worried about windows activation .. i doubt it would have any effect i'm just paranoid right now :D Kool man let me know
     
  43. Darth Bane

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    I did increments of 50mhz and ran vantage. I would then play a couple of games.
     
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    i see u boost ur laptop.until now u have the best gt725 am sure :))

    and what bout w7 activation... am sure that help u lot

    http://forums.mydigitallife.info/showthread.php?t=7500

    i dont have time to post our bios and get it moded .i provide u that forum to do it alone and post here our moded bios :)


    also i can change the name of the bios with an AMI editor but i saw smth strange yesterday. I had last gt725 bios 1.1 as u know and i opend it with that AMI editor program and the name of bios was Gx720...so msi built one bios for all 1722 mobos.
     
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    O.O

    Wow 50, compared to my feeble 10 and then vantage runs haha, you sir have yourself a very stable card then :D.
     
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    someone here name djvalic has join that forum i gave u and they put him slic but he didnt said us anything..thx m8
     
  47. Rorschach

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    zfactor already responded lol, looks like he will take a look into it. Wish I new how to do it myself, I have the bios tool, but still have not learned to use it yet.
     
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    Thanks man but I'm not ready to dig into something i'm not familiar with , besides we got NBR's best agent working on the crime scene :p
    who ??
    Awesome ! I too got couple of tools lying on my hard drives and not ready to use any
     
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    zfactor gave us moded ms-1722 bios? where??
     
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    He charges 50$ for each modded one .. still interested ? :D kidding

    EDIT: Street fighter benchmark on GX1.10 : 7748
    GT1.10 : 8195


    why did rorschach got banned ?? :eek:
     
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