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you guys do understand that the best way to try for an overclock isnt just pushing the multiplier right? you really need to pay attention to the fsb ratio for the ram, from what i remember its a 2:3 ratio for this laptop, at least with not much running, what ive noticed with the laptops was that they just up the fsb a little bit which ups the ram and the proc, the reason why the rams getting pissed it its cheap crap ram.

theres two ways to avoid this problem, and a step approaching it,

with overclocking you can't just force the speed, well you can but its obviously dangerous.

im actually fairly impressed with what the 725s can do standard, but thats about the max you can really expect, valueram isnt even remotely made for that and thats bringin on the bsods and failed ram.

if youre gonna valueram oc you need to push that fsb, and try and keep the ram divider set so the ram stays at the stock 800 speed, otherwise rams gonna get pissed. since this laptop as well as others are locked multipliers. its all gonna come down to the stepping of the processor and how well it ocs.

thats probably why they limited the fsb, so people dont cook the hell outa their ram.

if you want more freedom, then grab that g.skill ram that ive got and everyone else is running in the 720/1722 forum, thats confimed by myself running at ddr1000 for close to a year now. with that you can worry less about the ram divider and more on just cranking the fsb.

what we need to do is see if we can get a memory testing program thatll work with setfsb. ive never bothered to use it since i mostly do bios overclocking, we need a good stressing program like memtest which will let you know the limits of your ram.

i dont think ill oc with this ram at all in my advent since its just valueram.

keep me posed though, im curious to see how well we can tweak this proc through windows.

 

that makes sense, there is obviously a huge difference in ram quality, and the MSI is great value for money, but for a reason, compromises will have been made to save cost.

Laptops have never really struck me as being particularly suitable for oc, because of there cooling solution, and the MSI touch button oc just seems a bit of a gimmick.

I'm pretty certain MSI's engineers have designed a well balanced system with value components and, although I can see there's a challange there, it's hardly worth the effort for most of us. Still good luck with it.

 

At the mo there is no fsb change, just multiplier. (I can get 2.7ghz outa the processor with this method, but only on certain threads.)

Thats why this method of overclock, we really want to work,

Dont overclock your advent, your ram will die mine certainly did, but a got even worse hyundai replacement which is very nice i must say. (I drop timings down to 7 occasionally when OCing.)

It'd be nice to have stock 1066 ddr2 ram .

 

What was that ? 1 core ?
The transcend that came with the 725 gave me the "recommended 5 a day" BSOD ! sometimes more

Auto , I though you got yourself the 1gb version ? is your Q9 ES ?

 

Yep, that was 1 super computer core, only i get one of them .

lol 5 a day bsod? ouch, try every 5 second boot up 1 stick was completely broken lol.

 

. Using the Ice age bios ? nothing seems to work on 1.10 for me .. I "gave up" , there's soo many games calling my name I was wrong regarding mirror's edge , it's pretty kool

 

Haha, well the advents got its own bios, not quite sure what it is

Mirrors edge is kick ~SS i love it.

 

Got mine for 44.98 from them and now it's 70.50 Awesome pair by the way

 

Well im not quite sure if anyones tried pushing quads very very hard yet with better ram unfortunately, so i cant tell you, but i do know both makes of suggested ram are very good!

 

Yep, it's Kingston HyperX I linked above, good price for the UK right now
Shame memory is so much more expensive right now (bar DDR3 4GB SODIMMS), I paid £25 each for my DDR3 and they're now about 35-45 each.

 

Its a tricky process, if you have the advent, you can go ahead and push, if you have a really old GT725, you can go ahead and push, if you have a new machine, you'l have to take chances with bios flashing etc, the guide is in my signature, if you go ahead and click it, you can see a couple of things about it, and how well people have actually done.

 

...poor lenarass...
aw hi btw......i have same question as lenarass.what ice age bios are?

 

The ones listed in the MSI OC Thread.

 

DUDE ! it's Him ! Don't waste your time replying to his questions .. he's just taking the mickey out of us

Yep , that is what you are. I'm surprised you know that word.

 

Hi there,

I´m thinking of upgrading my 8600 to a Q9200.

Whích one should I have?

I saw QAJS, QAVR QAVS, what/ which one would you recommend?

 

Hey Tekkno , Mine is a QAVR , QAVS is fine as well , they both got temp sensors . Avoid the rest though (QAJF and so on) .
Do you use turbo button a lot ?

 

Hi,

thanks for the reply.

Not at all. All I use is the "Game" Profile, although I´m not sure it does anything

Bios is 1.10, EEC 4.32 so everything is up to date.

I will search for an Q9200 QAVS or QAVR on ebay from Asia. Any alternative source?

 

That's ok then coz you won't be able to achieve 24% on quads as on c2d whilst using it .. only 4% unfortunately. And setfsb doesn't seems to work with 1.10 so no overclocking unless you use the 1722 1S bios.

Anyway, the guy I got mine from ain't got none unfortunately .. Shirley is recommended http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Intel-Qua...mQQptZCPUs?hash=item3a56cd3027#ht_3411wt_1166 .
There's a new seller on ebay (enthusiastbits) , avoid him ! He was selling under the name whatzretail before and got screwed after I bought one off him.

EDIT : sorry just woke up and missed his ad That's the guy I got mine from : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/INTEL-CORE-QU...rds_CPUs_CA?hash=item20aedd5623#ht_5275wt_939

 

Shirley is the goddess of cpu's. Got my qx9300 from her.

 

Same, got my X9100 of him as well.

 

Right with regards to the whole IDA situation.

Throttlestop is having some effect in throttling the cores up, prehaps with this tool + undervolt we can get this locking in more perminantly

 

got a question.

My sons birthday is comming up soon, and he has been saving for a while for his own laptop. Trouble is he only has £500 and likes gaming, as well as school work.

Any ideas. £1200 quid I'm pretty confidant on what to buy. No idea about the super budget market though. I've got a few ideas, but would appreaciate your thoughts?

 

Post in the "What notebook should I buy?" section. You will find better help there.

 

What Johnny up there said ^^^. I'll get to you with a couple of options.

 

10.1 drivers should be out soon

 

yes i did get the 1gb version, however my advent came stock like this with a Q9 and a 512mb 4850, and now i also have a 1gb 4850 (literally just came in the mail).

good ram is definitely

 

right now im not sure what to suggest, honestly, i love this line of laptops, and this 725 is a reall cruizer, ive been using it since it came in.

my favorite part was just swapping the drives from my 720 to my 725 and having it boot perfectly minus graphics drives,

check currys if they still have the 7555, or if you feel lucky you can pick up a GT740 barebones and make one from scratch. the good ol fashioned way.

 

dont suppose you have any info on whats included in the 10.1 drivers?

Whats the betting Lena has them installed 2 seconds after they are available

Have to say, i think the mods are killing what was a great thread....

 

I don't think we should expect many huge updates or performance increases with our cards from here on. ATI will be concentrating on win7 compatibility and fine tuning the new 5 series cards. Ours will just be left by the wayside

 

One big happy family eh?

But yeah i think the mods shouldn't touch too much, although we area very relaxed bunch .

 

Question: Is there a tiny crumb of a chance that the 5850 be compatible with the gt725 mobo?

 

Answer: No

EDIT: It would at least require a heatsink overhaul, even if the card is the right mxm.

 

There will be no mxm 2.1 of any ati 5000's.

 

it saddens me to read those replies. oh well, it is what it is.

 

the beta of 10.1 is out and it does support mobility without any modding.
http://www.station-drivers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9455#9455

Direct link: http://www.station-drivers.com/page/atidriv mobility.htm

 

WoW nice, ATI are really pulling themselves together now!

 

About time ! i'm still using 9.7 from msi

 

Same They do the job though i must say.

 

I thought I was the only one Agreed ! it does its job nicely

 

I'm sure you will get a boost in vantage if you upgrade.

btw, how's that ida-thing going?

 

Its going well, im hoping i can find ways of activating different c states, i think then the IDA project will be completable.

 

are you sure about the 5 series? i dont recall what their power consumption charts but they are extremely efficient compared to the amount of performance they dish out. it honestky wouldnt suprise me. it may take a generation or two but if they bump the manufacturing process down some more and tighten some loose ends it might be p[ossible

 

it's not about the power consumption. All the new laptops have the new intel cpus which uses a different chipset that only uses the 3.0 mxm cards. There is no point for anyone to make mxm 2.1 of ati's 5000 cards.

 

wow, Currys store in Croydon have been selling an Advent 7555 for £499.00!

It's out of stock at the moment, but I've phoned and they said ther'e trying to get more in.

http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/sto...#(any):(any):150:1950:PageNo_6:SortOrder_DOWN

 

That's an absolute steal IF they come back in stock

 

the manager said they've been overwhelmed with interest.

Just proves that this sort of spec isn't niche, and that the out of town stores are over saturated with poor value product.

 

ignore this, sry double post.

 

damn, thats an amazing steal for that price, you could part those out and almost make double the price selling the cards!!

btw guys im using catalyst 10.1 and everything is running smoothly

 

They are back in stock on currys but they now want £799.99 for a refurbished model!!!

 

that seems like a bit of a take, especially considering the sale price was £300 less!