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The 10.3 WHQL, or 10.3b preview should be the best.
Can't remember the exact driver revision unfortunately, the 9.7 reading is sometimes a bug, but try and make sure you've got the latest CCC too.

10.3b is fairly recent and contains some minor battlefield fixes. There is also an OGL4 beta floating around which is roughly the same age as the 10.3b

 

Muahaha, see what we've got going here guys, a squad of cooling peops, and an m17 cool modder, project freeze has some great info, i think elec should be here too as he completely ram heasinked up the model 1727.

I have a few fans, including a small GPU die fan from an old agp 5200 which appears to be functional, its possible in the right place, that could do some good.

 

Lucky you ! there's none available at the mo , you bought all of em ?

Good point , That's my main concern too , need to get some good grade thermal adhesive pads. Heard bad things about the one that came with the Zalman's , that they kept faling apart ..

Also as stated by Alex , we ain't got much space in for taller ones ..
The one i got is 14(L)x14(W)x8(H). We need at least a 5-6mm for the GPU(on top of the actual heatsink) area and lower for CPU ...

I think my initial plan is good , cutting down the vram sides of the heatsink and stick those on , which will makes cooling more efficient than having crappy pads or thermal paste in-between the 1mm gap.

And some low profiles one along the pipes .. The most difficult part is getting the right equipment as the MSI is too slim.

 

Stick all on the bottom lid ? That's not a bad idea but avoid using it on your lap

 

Well its a metal fan for die, i could put it on one of the components, cpu or nb, the gpu'd burn up im sure.

It'd need re-wiring too,

 

Position the fan to the components that's hotter. Wiring those would be a pain

 

wiring isnt the problem cat, i can easily show you how to get upwards of 5v from your machine with little or no soldering, and you wont lose a usb port, due to a nice little card ive seen on ebay, its an adapter card for a mini pci-e that lets you solder things onto to add functionality, ie sata, or cf drives, and the best part is it shows you where the leads are on the card, so even if you murphy it up its only $3 down the drain, as opposed to g'bye compooter.

all we really need is a super slim fan that just pushes a little air, if i could get one of those and drop it on top of the gpu, then i'd be set for cooling, itd be beautiful and super cool.

 

Perhaps you could strip a small fan out of an old HDD external enclosure. They often had pretty damn small, thin 30mm fans, at least in older models.

 

Hmm that does sound like a good option actually,

I have 4 fans, 3 which run on a usb and 1 gpu fan, although they are not tiny, they are small,

On a side note i have the wiimote working with bluetooth but not in games,

Does our CIR port even work?

That adapter would be fairly handy for the mini pci port, i know one of the ports under the main heat pipes are free.

Will poke around for some other fans, i also have some more 5200 fx with DIE heat sinks, they'd go nicely in our machine too, so i'l probably strip them off at one point.

 

How about vibrations ?

 

Yep, it works, led works, it vibrates if you chuck the mouse off screen haha.

Can't get it working in BC2 ... yet,

Need it to colaberate with the whole windows joystick thing.

 

CIR not so useless after all You can even use the wii joystick whatever it's called .. i remember someone post a screenie of it.

How you gonna deal with fan vibrations ?

EDIT: Did you get the qimonda ?

 

The numchuck? i've the numchuck working, can't get CIR working,

I think no fan vibrations, its a very steady fan, quiet as chips too



I can remove the fan from the actual metal casing too i believe, to make it even smaller,

+, - and RPM sensor wires.

Naa haven't got the qimonda yet, need to find out timings, you think 2gb 6400 is good for £20? 1 year warrenty on it too,

 

MMMMM ok guys here is the result first pic normal temp 2nd one after playing bfbc2 for about 1 n half hour 3rd one after 2 hours.
the temp was runing in the back ground which was also make me lag in the game.

but it does nt look bad now over too you guys have a look and see if there is things i can do to improve. i will record fraps now and show u the video of what is happning.

1) normal


2) after playing bfbc2 for 1 n half hour i minimize the game n took the screen shot



3) after playing bfbc2 for 2 hours i minimize the game n took the screen shot

 

Those temps are very good. What driver you using ?

10.3 WHQL http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx

10.3b http://sites.amd.com/us/underground/tips/Pages/catalyst-10-3-preview.aspx with BC2 Fixes

No modding required.


@ Cata : na , the normal wii controller.
What the ... where did you get that thing ? It should be easier to fit with the metal thingy on.

£20 is decent , hopefully it can sustain your madness

 

thanks for the links i ll have a look i m using the old old original one

yes i was confuse too bz temp look fine.

i did a bit of research of my own and i found a couple of people in w90 lounge have same problem with there w90 its flicker so i guess its a game issue than anything else lol i guess false alram

where is the door lol

 

Better safe than sorry Use the 10.3b it's better for you , it fixes flickering etc .

 

Aye, his temperatures are actual fantastic for the GPU, dont ya think?

Possible screen problems, could the inverter or anything cause anything like this?

Its just ripped from a 5200fx dead, i think it keeps the temps good, but it should be built to tolerate quite a fair amount of heat.

I have three other USB powered fans which are plain plastic at around that size, but they aren't closed bottom (Also i can't put the metal directly on mobo haha.)

Should be quite a fun project when i get some more cash in , qimonda chips are quite good i think so for the OC madness i'd probably use them,

Whats the risk of damaging the mobo for ocing, is it high or what?

EDIT: Just seen some interesting quotes,

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OMG i got 25 % INCREASE FROM SWITCHING 10.3 REGULAR DRIVER TO ENZYME 1.3 BETA MODIFIED FOR CATALYST 10.3 ON 4330 HD, THING FLIES

Msi Afterburner Open Msi Folder Then Use Notepad To Change The Value Of Unnoficial Overclocking From 0 To 1

Wonder if the drivers would impact the 4850, and if the quote would allow beyond CCC ocing, the afterburners a fairly efficient tool.

 

Yeah they are quite good indeed and he ain't using a cooler.

Memory is the most vulnerable than other components. Kinda rare to fry a mobo when Ocing. Mine should have been dead by now

Qimonda are good , got some Elpida chip on my Kingston.

Fun project indeed , i'm waiting for my other bath of vramsink to start mine

How you gonna place it on your mobo ? It's metal , be careful.

 

I'd have to thermal pad it or...possible heat proof baking paper? lol...

The thing is, we can replace pretty much everything, but the mobo'd be too hard to replace i'd say lol..

 

Hmmm smells nice Well can't wait to see the end product .. should be good.

True .. Hard to find any MSI parts in circulation , as far as you don't go to the extreme, you should be fine.

 

Indeed it is, will take some pictures i think and sketch some possible plans onto em haha.

I'm going to give them enzyme drivers a try, wonder if we will gain any performance from them .

Bad Company
All Max
NO HBAO
4 X AA
8 X Antistop
28 LOWEST
30 TO 36 AVERAGE
60 HIGHEST
10.3 BETA
40-44 DURING COMBAT

Borderlands Next
All Max
Antistro x 16
all on
40 (Rare)
44 constant
to 56
Temps
65, 65, 70, 70 cpu
gpu 79 at one point, 76 stable

New Driver Test

Bad Company
All Max
NO HBAO
4 X AA
8 X Antistop
34 - 36 AVERAGE
20'S with mass particle flood
76 on GPU,
66, 67, 70 70 CPU
Perhaps slight performance increase

Borderlands Test
All Max
Antistro x 16
all on
44-50 constant
up to 62 max
Small increase
GPU 81 C Max
66,67,70,70 cpu

Driver increase is there, its minimal but its not bad, they feel very stable, based on 10.3's i think but not sure,

Will stick withem for a bit.

Someone managed to OC the gt640 I7 with setfsb and the correct ipl? number, i forgot the name lol. Mandrakes posted in the gt640 thread.

 

http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?t=1258
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=10914.0

This two topics may help I am testing out the settings they recommend and stuff to see if it helps stability. Of course I have a D-LINK DIR-625 router so who knows if would help you all, hopefully it does

Wow Upload went from 1.8 mbps to 4.4 mbps, download seems a little bit more stable but I may be still noticing that stopping pattern.

 

Hmm, what about home network, hows file transfering on that?

 

I never really had a problem with this. I more or less had a problem with internet stability. Like random lagging for no reason, had one issue with it since I applied these, but significantly less reoccurring than previously.

 

Can't seem to get 10.3 to install correctly. Ran driver cleaner and ccleaner, rebooted then installed 10.3b http://sites.amd.com/us/underground/...3-preview.aspx

Driver version check says my driver version is now 8.712 (was 9.7).



What gives?

 

As long as it shows the right driver num (8.71**) you don't need to worry.

@ Mr Cata , couple of frames here and there , I might give it a go tonight .. And post screenie here.
Yeah I saw that , pretty kool eh ! Non extreme "can" be oc'd after all .. Hope someone test it out

 

On a side note, I have had these problems after I have refreshed my computer from being asleep or hibernated. It is almost always fixed by restarting my computer. It is just really annoying that I have to restart my computer solely because of internet issues. Maybe that part of the problem can help us solve it. I had an issue earlier with download speed, I was getting 6 mbps out of my 33, restarted, and was back to normal. It is weird that it just doesnt function like a fresh restart after hibernate and sleep.

 

yes the CIR on our laptops does work, in fact, i have a hp media center remote that i acquired a few months back and it works flawlessly with the cir built into the laptop, now im somewhat tempted to make my 7555 into a media center pc when i get back...

 

Update: This really fixed my latency issues in WoW.

http://www.speedguide.net/faq_in_q.php?qid=247

 

Interesting, well its not being detected for any of the wii tools,

And i have a standard universal 360 remote here with media center functions on it, maybe it can be tuned to pc, I assume your CIR is working fine then auto? any specific remotes/accessories you have for it?

Interesting mark, there is also on vista a problem in which the wifi card actively scans often so that could also have effects too? my friend would get spikes every 10 seconds in games because of it.

 

This fixed all my issues. http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php TCPOPTIMZER

 

not sure about the deal with vista, thats one operating system i avoided as much as possible, xp did me well for the longest time, but that sounds like a problem that might be solved through some wifi card tweaking.

 

okay guys, i need to know, will this work in the GT725?

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=1161214

Blazin

 

Will fit without issues You need that much space though ?

You could also go for the Hitachi 7k500 , 500gb @ 7200 rpm.

 

yeh i was tempted to, but will i actually see any noticeable performance increase? I've seen 7200rpm drives that perform worse than my 5400rpm one

 

Hi.

Good to see one that swapped out the screen also.

Im planning to change my LCD panel as well to WUXGA.

Are the performances noticeably different when running games in WSXGA+ and WUXGA?

I was wondering how much it stresses the GPU.

 

Erm i was talking about switching hard drives.. but I already have the WUXGA so can't comment on the difference.

 

Right i think i am gonna order the Western Digital Scorpio Blue, how easy is it to fit.. i have never really delved into laptops before (apart from the occasional ram swappage)

Blazin

 

Can't talk about the 7k500 as i haven't used one myself but from all the reviews i've read , it seems to be very good speed wise.

Very easy , just un-screw and pull Good luck with the packaging

 

Hi there just wondered what avg kinda temps you guys are getting with the MSI GT725/Advent 7555GX

With cpuid hardware monitor i get the following IDLE TEMPS




HWMonitor version 1.1.5.0

Monitoring
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mainboard Model MS-1722 (0x00000199 - 0x005EC472)

LPCIO
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hardware Monitors
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hardware monitor ACPI
Temperature 0 51°C (123°F) [0xCAA] (THRM)Hardware monitor Intel Mobile Core 2 Quad Q9000
Temperature 0 47°C (116°F) [0x35] (Core #0)
Temperature 1 47°C (116°F) [0x35] (Core #1)
Temperature 2 45°C (112°F) [0x37] (Core #2)
Temperature 3 45°C (112°F) [0x37] (Core #3)

Hardware monitor ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850
Temperature 0 56°C (131°F) (GPU Core)
Hardware monitor WDC WD3200BEVT-22ZCT0
Temperature 0 40°C (103°F) [0x28] (Assembly)
Hardware monitor Battery 1
Voltage 0 12.58 Volts [0x3125] (Current Voltage)
Capacity 0 84240 mWh [0x14910] (Designed Capacity)
Capacity 1 71453 mWh [0x1171D] (Full Charge Capacity)
Capacity 2 71453 mWh [0x1171D] (Current Capacity)
Level 0 15 pc [0x54] (Wear Level)
Level 1 100 pc [0x64] (Charge Level)


Processors
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of processors 1
Number of threads 4

APICs
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Processor 0
-- Core 0
-- Thread 0 0
-- Core 1
-- Thread 0 1
-- Core 2
-- Thread 0 2
-- Core 3
-- Thread 0 3

Processors Information
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Processor 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 4 (max 4)
Number of threads 4 (max 4)
Name Intel Mobile Core 2 Quad Q9000
Codename Penryn
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9000 @ 2.00GHz
Package (platform ID) Socket P (478) (0x5)
CPUID 6.7.A
Extended CPUID 6.17
Core Stepping R0
Technology 45 nm
Core Speed 1596.2 MHz
Multiplier x FSB 6.0 x 266.0 MHz
Rated Bus speed 1064.1 MHz
Stock frequency 2000 MHz
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, EM64T
L1 Data cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 2 x 3072 KBytes, 12-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes
FID range 6.0x - 7.5x
Max VID 1.125 V


UNDER LOAD (played Anno 1404) max temps are around 70 degrees celsius except the HD4850 graphics card gets to 80 degrees celsius.

Is this normal you reckon? Should i be worrying? I'm already using a laptop cooler.

 

Well it turns out i am in a very impulsive mood tonight and decided to buy a q9200 from laptopmonkey instead of a HDD lol.. go me

Will this require a different bios (currently running 1.0s), I know it needs the barebones bios to overclock, but for now I just want to know if it will run on standard.

Blazin

 

Go Blazin ! No you don't need new bios for normal usage. Dude don't forget some good grade thermal

 

Would this be suitable? http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=TH-001-AC

 

No , get mx-3 or ICD7 , these are better.

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=66&products_id=1466

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=66&products_id=1319

Chilledpc are awesome

 

80 is a little bit high but nothing to worry about.

 

ahh cool ok. Any way i can get the temps down?

Also i just noticed this (from the text i posted)

Mainboard Model MS-1722 <<<<<< ?


i definately have a 7555GX i thought they were all rebadged MSI GT725 ???

 

Re-pasting it might drop down the temps What cooler you using ?

It's just the motherboard model , the 725 uses the same. Here's mine:

 

So, I have an issue after our laptop comes on after sleep/hibernate. My internet will be 50 ms on every game/program and then randomly keep spiking and become really unstable until it gets to 2000+. If I restart, everything is fixed and the process eventually starts over again.

 

Great, thanks for that, just ordered some MX-3. Will i have to repaste the gpu aswell when i take the heat sink off?

Blazin