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    Discussion in 'MSI' started by faisalhero, Feb 4, 2009.

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    so im getting really starting to wonder if my processor is really gonna be enough to cut it. I seem to be pushing the power envelope pretty hard on my computer, this alienware card is pulling apparently 50-65 watts, and my quaddie is pulling most of the rest. the strange thing is the difference between the q9000 and the t9400 is only 10w and apparently thats enough to cause power issues, mainly only when gaming, if i come unplugged my machine dies. I guess the batteries can't support that much load.

    I just finished the singleplayer campaign in bad company 2 and there seems to be an issue with the fludity of rendering, itll render smoothly, but the framerate is nowhere near consistent, as in itll speed up then slow down, its almost like the borderlands effect when you warp in. Im starting to wonder if this card just sucks too much juice.

    Before i add another issue to my list, has anyone else gotten issues similar to that? im using the whql 10.3 drivers and its a clean install.

    if its a processor issue, im tempted to just sell the machine and jump into a gx740 since the processor prices for a q9200 are about the same as a good i5/i7 processor...
     
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    My battery does the same when playing crysis on high pref, just decides to cut out when the power draw is too much.

    Not bad diesel, but for that price i could build a gaming with with a 5870 in it :p
     
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    Yeah you can get a powerful rig at that price :D

    You gonna buy that diesel ? :p

    Auto , have you tried 10.3b ? 1.05beta is out too
     
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    i cant seem to find it death, the links ive seen here are dead, as for the 1.05 thats is what again, i know its some sort of modded driver, who is it by?

    I'm thinking of upgrading my proc more and more, its stable and smooth, buut some programs dont like it very much, ie adobe premiere cs4, for some reason it cant play video well before or after its rendered in premiere.

    what stepping is your q9200? and who did you get yours from, i see two sellers on ebay,

    shirley sells this one for 20 less

    and theres laptopmonkey for 289.00
    Both prices are in USD.

    between this and g.skill 8gb ram kits dropping in price, im really tempted to drop some cash on one or the other.

    still looking for an extra heatsink, worst comes to worst i think ill just have to sell the msi 4850 since i cant find a friggen heatsink for it.
     
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    I'm gonna look into the whole overclocking thing, however i'm kinda worried about how thats gonna affect the cooling of my already scorching graphics card.
     
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    Should be fine if you use a cooler or drill the crap out of the bottom lid :p
     
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    Hi, can I just ask if anyone of you have considered/have already got an Expresscard SSD for Win Vista/7 Readyboost function?

    Is it any good to boost system performance (either gaming/running memory eater program)
     
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    The q9000 should hit 2.8ghz now dead if i can get in touch with tester again :) he says he will write one day haha, but so far completely anonymous o_O.
     
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    Sweet ! Let's go harass him :D

    @cena , I tried readyboost on a 16gb SDcard and my system became unusable , very very slow ... an express card might work but we don't really need it as it won't be any faster as it already is.
     
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    Have someone an idea here how to solve without modification the gpu overheating problem?
    I used cpu genie to undervolt the cpu and is fine from 2Ghz trough 1.6Ghz
    anytime working with 1.050 V which is the lowest set on laptop bios (i think i have 1.0U), somehow i can get lower but ok. I played 1 hour Tomb Raider Legend at max graphics and get overheating errors from gpu.
    yesterday i played with one external fan an noticed that even with stress the cpu not going over 70 degree C but the gpu after 5 minutes of Furmark reach 80 C.(playing with fan means i keeped close to the hot air outcome to help the hot air leave my laptop at the gpu cooler site, and keeping at 80 or a bit lower is ok for the lappy)I have an external laptop coole from cooler master but doing nothing at all, the air is blowed under laptop but is far away to be enough to cool down the two major heating unit. Just my hdd get cooler with 1 degree. Blowing directly in the hole under the inside fan giving 2-5 degree cooler on cpu side but not doing anything on gpu side.
    I want to solve this if someone has an idea. Everything is stock in my MSI GT725Q.
    Thanx for help
     
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    Sena,
    i read somewhere ower the internet that if u want to try to make your laptop faster than u can use a flash or anytype of memory card. They usualy becomes dead faster but u can do it. Use anytype means usb, mini pcie or express card slot connection even esata. Format it and use for swap, and use just this driver for it and ur system will speed up a bit. Depends on the write and read speed of it. It wont double ur speed but it can be measurable.

    Try to find the article. its written for usb flash under xp.
    Regards
    Me
     
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    i'm gonna say this flat out, readyboost is a waste of time, theres no real measurable gains in speed youre gonna get, its designed to serve and a solution for machines that dont possess enough memory to run efficiently with larger programs, mainly for older machines that have been forces to burden a new os and demanding programs.

    if you plan on using a ssd card or a flash drive, any cheapo one will work, however, with read/write speeds of cheap flashdrives being maybe 1.6mbps thats insanely slow compared to system memory and the bus it runs on...

    yes you can get faster flash drives or ssd cards for expresscard slots, but for omething with decent speed you'll pay the price you would for that memory upgrade or a faster hard drive.

    turboboost has taught us that that idea is a failure, simply because you have to use the same program that really only loads the same things once, games will see no benefit, but maybe some in something like photoshop, and for the cost of a decent readyboost solution you dont gain true performance but something unattainable during normal usage.

    the only thing that those cards are good for is if you are in desperate need of storage space, and even then a bigger hard drive will give you much better read/write and storage space for a lower cost.

    its a nice idea and i'm still tempted to play with those ideas, but their cost is an unneccesary waste of money.

    as for the program using up the drives, yes that is a side effect also, flash drives are rated at a certain amount of times they can be written to and erased, as such they were never meant to be used as an alternative to ram, mainly because they are a different type of memory technology meant for long term storage. This partially why defragmenting a SSD is a terrible and destructive idea, you're basically killing your drive.

    As for the RAM in your computer, that type is called volatile memory and is designed with nand technology allowing it to write and rewire multiple times and withstand incredible amounts of wear.

    look it up sometime on wikipedia for an interesting read. (hahaha yes i noticed that i made a joke about ram)
     
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    You said it would be an interesting read
    :SLEEP:

    Now read about ROM, that is interesting ;)
     
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    Only if you're not interested in making any changes ever :p
     
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    It's crap , go for the Hitachi 7k500 , it's faster.
    ok may not "crap" but from what i've read , it's slightly faster.
    How's the Q9200 ? Was it worth it ?

    WD Black is still the best out there though :p
     
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    yeh i read a few reviews and it looks pretty good

    and i havent recieved the q9200 yet.. so we shall see haha :rolleyes:

    have you got the barebones bios and use setfsb to OC?

    Blazin
     
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    So i guess everyones dumped AS5 and theyre using mx3 now? is that right? Im curious to see if theres another paste out there that can give me an even cooler approach if possible, then i may consider ocing my machine.
     
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    MX-3 and ICD have both been said to run cooler, and safer :D.
     
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    just bought myself some of that 24 carat diamond paste, and some zalman ramsinks, im determined to drop the temp of this machine. This will keep me entertained till i can get my hands on a gx740. Maybe I'll use my tax return for that.
     
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    Sweet , let me know about your temps.

    By the way , Catalyst 10.6 Alpha been leaked

    EDIT; Got my ramsink thingy this morning , good height but still to tall for the CPU area. Thermal adhesive seems good so far.
     
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    What ramsink have you got?

    Blazin
     
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    All quite on the Western Front Anything new going on Dead2thworld ?

    PS: those 512 SSD's look awful tempting as does a 1 gig 4850 ATI but cant seem to find the ATI's anywhere.
     
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    Nothing much , doing a clean install at the mo .. Soo boring!

    SSD's are tempting but prices are way too high. :eek:
    Should be able to get you hands on one in the marketplace , and there's some websites you can check too , will post the links here later. ;)
     
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    Lambofreak I like, love laptops

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    You all smell!
     
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    I do believe it is infact you who smells :cool:
     
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    you can get 48s on the forum, i know theres a couple of them that didnt sell yet, as for the card, getting them is the easy part, now you have to get yourself a heatsink for the bugger... I havent had any luck. Though i've pretty much given up, i sold my advent 7555 the other day with the 9600mGT, so i have an ati hd4850 512 from msi, lemme know if youre interested, idk what im gonna do with it just yet.
     
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    Couldnt you have modded one auto?

    And didnt rk or frosty or someone buy heatsinks on ebay and sellem at twice the price? i mean it could possibly be worth it if you can get the card working lol,
     
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    Lambofreak I like, love laptops

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    You're right :cry:

    Hey all, sorry I stopped posting here, found a supraforum that I go on now, because I love wasting money on my car :D.

    Will still post here when I have a problem I can't fix :p.
     
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    Haha ok lambo, do be sure to show us picks of your modded lambo :D
     
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    Lambofreak I like, love laptops

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    Hehe I wish...

    If you don't object I will post up some pics of the "Supra" :p within a couple of days.
     
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    Yeah man, it'd be pretty awesome to see (Y)
     
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    well you see, thats the thing cat, i know theres better deals out there than paying a premium to rk for something that costs half as much and still gives the manufacturer profit.

    Margin irritates me when its too large. No offense to RK, thats the nature of buisness,

    As for making one, yes i "could" but i dont have anywhere near the right tools or the time to carefully construct one, i'd have to buy everything since, and iraq is hardly the place to be trying to make things like that, I don't really have enough time. On top of that, that my advent has been sold to my boss so now i get to decide if i wanna sell this card or get something different.

    Im halfway tempted to get an alienware and grab a slave card from the marketpace for $400, buut taking mobility into consideration i think im just gonna grab myself a gx740...

    Alienwares are just too bulky to comfortably carry when you travel. Now that I think about it, I kinda wish that MSI would make different colors for their laptops, silver and black was really stylish, and a nice change from red/black...

    However my laptop does looks significantly sexier with the ati & intel core2 quad stickers on it = )

    as for the 4850 i have, anyone wants it, send me a pm. I think its time to get rid of it, the things pretty much brand new, i just wished i couldve gotten some use out of it.
     
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    How much you want for it ? Roughly ?

    Na , avoid the alien better go for the Gx's .. dx11 , more power for less ..
     
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    Or sager/clevo at least, but the alienwares haven't all been perfect xD.

    And yeah, how much will the 4850 be? people will jump all over it to be honest.
     
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    Yeah don't forget the clevo/sager :p , I will definitely go for them next time.

    I think my stupid card is faulty ...
     
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    Why do you think its faulty?

    I can only OC mine to 540/890 when running 3dmark lol, otherwise i get direct3d errors :rolleyes:
     
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    Same blazin,

    Mine acts strange some time, but i've given up on the whole gpu ocing thing ^^,
     
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    Coz i've been getting this stupid msg for the past couple of days "a video hardware error prevents windows from working correctly"

    I've tried troubleshooting it in any way possible , didn't work. So F it ...


    EDIT : @ Blazin , na , it's hard to get one of those , i've looked everywhere. Cata is looking for one too :D
    Removing the grill will help the air flow.

    Extreme sticker is more appropriate with our CPU :p Got a lame blue c2quad with mine ..
     
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    Hmm i did have that all the time at one point dead, try revert to the o'l MSI drivers?

    Its really odd, i think within the next few weeks i will get this q9000 upgraded :D

    And yeah we all want new bottoms haha.
     
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    You finally made up ur mind ? :p Ask Blazin about his before ordering.

    That's the only driver i haven't tried , will check it out ;)

    Before it was atikmdag and now this :D i'm cursed !
     
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    Yeah, i got really ticked at the amount of times i had ati kmdag, made it difficult to make high score vantage runs lol

    Is it possible some of your applied paste where the pads were have stopped making contact with the HS?
     
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    Double checked and they seems fine , temps are still very good , even fully oc'd.

    I will do a clean install without any Oc and see what that does .. Does anybody smells clevo ? :p
     
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    At this point, God knows, 4850 seems like a fairly stable card, sinceyou have an official MSI machine, how about reinstalling the vbios too? Or maybe you still have warrenty??
     
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