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Testers core isnt that high however, im sure his memory was 1100+?

Will hope he notices these posts and drops in a reply

 

Yawp, it was way more than that, the flash on his gpu made it 650/1300 i think. Im not sure dont count me on this. But, stock max is 590/900.

 

Now come on, for a laptop thats crazy right??? we all hear about these 2k laptops hitting 15k on 06 with crossifre but 12k on a single gpu, and the shere power of his clocks are fantastic.

 

Woohoo! Just felt like beeing random! Got the mamba razer and nc2000 zalman cooler. Pics up later. Adios!!

 

I have the bios for the gpu for flashing. He almost reached 13k but the orb wouldnt let him save it in orb because his gpu said standard vga. I believe. Ira somewhere hrre. I dont knoe what page.

 

Ahh that sucks, and yes, please do show the nc2000, with your 725 on it, im curios to know looks and size, oh and benchmark temparatures a bit

Cheers fronzen.

Cata

 

Yes for sure, right after the manny pacquiao and rickyhatton fight. I will definitely report back. The zalman nc2000 seems like its a great fit and it covers the whole bottom with openings for memmory/gpu/harddrive, mostly everything. The build is verry verry sturdy and its pure aluminum. My recent antec to go with ballbearing fans was alright, made the laptop sit on cold air, but, t wasnt cutting it, all the air comes out on the left side and noticed nothing. So, i returned it at staples, went to frys and got me the zalman nc2000. I was gonna order the antec with a humungous fan but, im in information system class and repairs, and we wer studying how pure aluminum depletes heat. So i guess im believed it and give this zalman a try. The box it came with is proffesional looking. And it fits til 20 inches.

 

So I've got a really stupid question for you. It seems like everyone here is devoting a whole lot of time, effort, and in a few cases, money into raising their 3DMark score. So what? What does that score mean? It seems like all that hacking your system is leading to as many crashes, and in some cases completely ruined systems for what? Can somebody please tell me what you are actually doing with your system now that you couldn't do when it was loaded with the basic stuff? I mean, what makes it worth all the headaches?

 

that is a dum question. that's like why people like making there cars faster. it is the thrill of getting higher numbers. seeing how your computer can perform. before changes and after changes. i love benhcmrking. seeing my numbers go up in fraps.

 

I cant f*cking believe Tester's clocks.
Its like putting my laptop on fire, i wud get some 120*C or maybe more with those clocks.

To put simply "Its F*ckin Insane"

 

Works for me. I just didn't know if there was a real-world application to all this tweaking that I was missing out on.

 

Hi @ all




575/1115 @ new 1.100V (HD4850 Mod-BIOS) (normally the GPU-VCore is @ 1.05V)
24% OC/667MHz (NB-BIOS Settings)

Unfortunately, I will no longer to be found in the ORB (3DMark06)
I use the ATI Driver 9.5 beta and the CCC from the DNA ATI 9.2.
The 9.5 beta does not recognize the graphics card as Mobility HD 4850.
Damn!
It shows only a graphics card of the HD4800 series.

Anyone who wants to test beta 9.5...

=> Vista x86/x64 ATI 9.5 Beta (do NOT works @ Windows Seven!!!,I've tested it)

=> XP x86/x64 ATI 9.5 Beta

no rapidshare account?...please download it from archiv.to (very fast hoster):

= > Vista x84/x64 ATI 9.5 Beta

= > XP x86/x64 ATI 9.5 Beta

 

Theres the legend himself ^ he breaks limits

Thank you very much tester, will give the 9.5 Beta's a try i think, any performance gains my friend?

 

just rename the line that says:
ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
to
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850
in the inf then reinstall. and then orb should show it....

 

@ johnksss

thX for the info
I will make later a new bench.

@ catacylsm

mmmmh, at this moment I playing only Empire Total War on the GT725.
There is no difference between 9.4 vs. 9.5, but @3Mark06 it's about 150-200 points more.

 

@tester
Were you in The deep freezer?
I'll burn my nb with those clocks.
Hw did u do it?
Thermal paste or nb cooler?

 

Better question is what are your temperatures when the GPU is at full load? That 1.1v makes it pretty much a Mobility 4870, so granted that the thermal budget isn't too much, core should be able to hit 600mhz, maybe a tad higher.

 

That's my problem. I do not know whether my sensors show the correct Temps..

idle:


last:

at least 56 Grad! max. 60 Grad!

no changes at the Graka (paste/cooler is original)
no notebook cooler








"Deep freezer" working only @ 575/1115 when I change the GPU-VCore to 1.1V.
@580MHz GPU Clock and 1.1V = 3DMark06 crashes

@570MHz CPU Clock and 1.05V (stock) = 3DMark is working

 

hmm, well 24 degrees for a notebook GPU is amazing, but also impossible. So it could be the drivers or a faulty sensor. Are you able to read temperatures via HWMonitor?

Also, I'm guessing the high memory clocks might be taking away from the core. Have you tried lowering the memory clocks before upping the core?

 

Hey Tester, not sure if you told us already or not, but if possible can you write up some guide for the whole overclocking and bios modding process for those of us who are less experienced with extreme overclocking?

 

Im really assuming, but i may be wrong, ur sensors are a bit on the wrong side, or if its not, thats really cool. Considering the fact that there is only 1 internal fan and its for the cpu only. When i saw your 24*C on the last pages before, i started to trip out, cuz mine was going 55*C idle and i wanted to return it already, i tought that was too hot. But later on, i found out it was a really normal temperature. Last week i went to a lan party here in san diego, some of the people have gt725's we all compared our temps on idle and full load, they were all the same, and i was really happy with that. I have bought the zalman nc2000 silver, my idle was 55*C, now with zalman on max, i see a 6-8*C drop on my gpu. Its about 48-50 idling now. And im really impressed. Im still working on pictures and details with the cooler and the laptop. I will post it up later on. I might change my silver to a black one also, since i believe black depletes/is attracted tomore heat. Just because.

I played crysis warhead, mine tops at 81*C before. With the zalman, i tops at 75-78*C. Impressive huh. I got pictures to prove and i will report back since the pictures are too big and needs some editing and theres alot! For you guys's viewing pleasure.

 

Thats some great temparature drops thanks frozen!

 

Mine min is 46*C jus after waking up the lappy frm 2 hr sleep, otherwise on boot it is 58-62*C.

Tester use Everest and post temps.
Plz.
Coz even i am using slight elevation for lappy with room temp at 23*C and I get high temps.

Maybe Tester got the "High Yield card".

 

@ Roomtemp. 20° C

coming soon (next week)
Thats also not very difficult.

 

Chris, if everest is reading your gpu like that, then, im assuming your gpu sensors are right. Unless its just semi faulty. My cpu is the same like yours also. But when i turn on my zalman, its such a breeeze 25-28*C. Im not hoMe yet i cant post my pictures with pure awesomeness.

 

all these numbers. i can't believe i'm missing this. great job tester keep it up. you deserve rep.

 

Chris, i want an answer on thizz question

Ichime, no, we cant read the gpu temps via hwmonitor. Only cpu/hdd/screen

 

Oh sorry

Yes, I did it but without an increase (GPU-VCore), I can not OC over 570MHz.
3DMark crashed always @ eg.g 575/1100 (or lower Mem Clock).
Only after I had raised the GPU-Vcore, 3DMark worked stable @575MHz.

 

no problem

1: also try running in balanced mode.
2: windows or ccc settings set to quality. then ease off some of the quality settings to performance settings.
start by using your best setup runs and watching the first 15 seconds of each stage. that way if the fps are not up to par, you can stop the test and make changes then rerun it again.
example: test one 3dmark when the fps is at like 88 to 92 and it stays there for your best run, then this is your starting mark. you know you have to be at least 89 and up in the first 15 seconds. if it's not, stop the test and make changes.

 

Ok, so we now know it is possible to get 12k in 3dmark06. But how does this translate into the real world scenario? I remember raising 3dmark06 scores by almost 1k with my old 9800gts but I think I only gained like 3 fps in crysis.

So, is pushing the 4850 to its utmost limit going to at least give us a sizable increase in fps?

 

dont use the scoring system, but only look at how many frames per second...
it's better to use vantagemark for this. it can match almost any game if you get in there and re arrange the test options

 

Curious tester, how are your temparatures so low?

And could you run a furmark for a few minutes and give an fps count,

That would be great, cheers man.
(Only if you have time)
Cata

 

Holy Sh*t!
I cant believe it!

Somethings is definately wrong. (with my eyes or tester's lappy)

He has crossed mobility 4870's clocks 550/888.
4870 in Asus W90 has GDDR3.

 

Really? I thought all 4870s were GDDR5? In that case, we can play catch up!

 

anyone have an idea what sound card would be the optimal purchase?
i'm planning on buying a set of atk-ad700s.. would like to maximize the value of the purchase by improving on the gt725s sound card.

and i'm pretty illiterate when it comes to this stuff.

 

Heres The Pictures of the Zalman NC2000 and my GT725-074 as I promised to all of you. Especially to catacylsm.// I still havnt took of the plastic films hehe keeping it clean. I take it off and put it back after use. I have not much time to comment on these pictures as im doing all these on my iphone. Its so hard to put captions. lol ill do it later on. And for the temperatures, Ill post it up later on when I get home. ENJOY

 

Cool!
I'll be getting a Cooler Master Notepal Color Infinite, any suggestions?
I dont get Zalman here.

 

I don't know what to say about Tester's temps.. other than he has a top-binned gift from god vid card / cooling solution (which is stock), or there are some differences in the version he has fromt he US one. 20-30C temp difference? That's HUGE. I upgraded my thermal paste, got an NZXT Cryo cooler and 2 EverCool NB-MA1 fans to attach to the two vents and got what? a -5C at the most difference. Oh and that just means that I am now at 54-60C idle like everyone else. In game (WoW) I am at 74C average, and in L4D I am over 80C. And whoever said (too lazy to look who it was) that the 1 fans cools only the CPU... sorry bro, but think / look / research again. The fan is meant pull cool air from the bottom outward on the two vents which each have a heatsink fin, cooling the metal and thus cooling GPU and CPU/NB combo heatsink. It's a terrible terrible design don't get me wrong, but it does work.

As for an update, I called MSI out on not doing a DAMN thing about my notebook and not telling me what they did (*COUGH* did not do *COUGH*) and they simply replied "Forwarded to tech department"... 2+ days (working days) and no response. Good times. Never an MSI again.

 

Thank you very much tester

Yeah, i too am over 80 with some games, curious as to if tester changed the pads/paste that MSI used (im not too sure)

I will definately aquire one of these nc2000's as i have seen alot of them doing really well with cooling.




Fronzen, is the slider fan power control?

 

Sorry for double post

Caz, your idle temparatures are right though, the max mine gets under extreme conditioning is 86 for gpu (which i suppose is alright because its not 90), if you want to get an exact readout for gpu use xtreme burn, stability test at native res, that reads the sensors too.

Dont forget that room temparatures can also make a difference.

 

pls help ! when i override my card ma games run slow ... for ex my farcry 2 was goin slow when override option was on and when i turned off it went smooth.... can u temme tehe reason .... and gta4 runs fine on tis laptop ?

 

Yes sir, the slider is the fan power control. When its on full blast. xman, it makes wonders. Andxif you look at the picture where i showed the zalman and bottom of the laptop, it blows air thru all those vents. When you touch the top of zalman, uoull be like whoa! Ice cold!!

 

Aha, that seems great to be honest, although im trying to decide my temparatures, i have both hwmonitor from faisal hero (the one that reads gpu sensor) and hwmonitor latest, and there is like an 8*C different between them.

 

I'm sure it's been mentioned but has anybody successfully installed 64 bit vista/win7 on the gt725? The msi website only offers 32 bit drivers and I'm just wondering if anybody somehow got drivers for 64 bit?

 

Zerb, 32 bit drivers on the msi website are universal so it should work fine, it just lists 32 but there 64 too

 

Oh really? That's awesome! Do they work with windows 7 64 bit? (rc1 is out btw, or soon, depending where you get it)

 

Hey guys,

I'm considering getting this laptop and I have a couple of questions:

1) Is there a difference in overclockability between the similarly clocked P9600 and T9550?
2) Does this 17 incher really only weight 3.3kilos?
3) Does it have a built-in microphone?

 

OC in laptops are influenced by heat. T's are hotter than P's.

It does weigh 3.2kgs only.

Yes it has a inbuilt microphone.

Somebody said abt override here, so yes the OC via CCC is negative.

 

That's my reasoning as well, but I want to be sure rather than regret it later. Perhaps it can draw less power and therefore can't go faster?

OC via CCC? What?

 

lol, all these acrynyms. I always thought the T's were cooler, but I'll take silicon's word for it.

Edit: Back to my question from earlier, has anyone tested the 32bit vista drivers with the 64 bit windows 7?