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I typed a longer reply but the forum ate it
Blazin23 I'm worried it won't run newer games ok. I'd rather have a lower native resolution than risk having to run something at non-native resolution.

 

you are welcome my friend , btw , AMD Releases Industry's First WHQL-certified Drivers for Windows 7 , did you try it ?

Windows 7 64-bit

http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?driver=VideoCard/win7-64-suite

Windows 7 32-bit

http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?driver=VideoCard/win7-32-suite

 

Aha, will try them as soon as i get in on w7 64bit

Thats pretty awesome, AMD NEVER RELEASE DRIVERS MUAHAH! lol

 

The 725 is about 100 dollars over my budget, but wanted to know if it is worth the extra cash?

Some gaming and blu-ray as well as HD streaming.

Thanks

 

Its worth every penny.

Guys jus discovered that Dell M1730 with T9300 @2.5ghz and 8800M GTX SLI gets 11.5k in 3DMark06 and Tester got 12.3k so his nb is beating a sli nb.

 

How is the screen quality?
trying to decide on a gateway fx desktop/laptop or hp desktop at bestbuy with blu-ray

 

That comparison would only be fair if the 11.5k was frighteningly overclocked. If it is a stock benchmark, it should be compared to the GT725's stock figure.

 

ok, I am more concerned with resolution and quality for blu-ray and gaming

 

Blu-Ray is only read, you cant burn with this drive.
Screen Quality is better than dell,hp its in range of enthusiat nbs.
Gateway does nt hv such a powerful laptop and hp sucks.
Alternative to MSI is only expensive Asus or Sager.

 

M1730 has T9300 @ 2.5ghz and 8800M GTX SLI, so it is an even comparison.
Plus M1730 has very less scope of OC.

Anyways 10.5k(gt725) vs 11.5k(m1730)?
The cost factor is huge and m1730 is heavy and comes with 230W adapter.

 

thanks, would the gt725 be a better buy over an asus g50vt-a2
17" screen would seem nicer

 

Well, if you take the warranty out of the equation, a resounding yes. MSI has a better GPU and bigger screen with only slightly more weight and size (you have to use a 17" bag for the asus anyway).

Upside of the Asus is the warranty and the tank-like build and a touchpad/palmrest coating that doesn't come off within a month. Also, a second hard drive bay can be handy.

 

I was going to buy that one, but i rung round loads of places that had it marked as out of stock, and they said that they couldn't order them in, so they assume that the 087 is now discontinued and replaced by the 210uk.

Also, i agree that a 1680 screen is better if you want higher fps, but with a 1920x1200, you can still lower the res to 1680! and also, what is the point of having a blu-ray drive if you do not have an HD screen. (i know you can plug in an external monitor throught the hdmi port, but it defeats the object of having blu-ray built in to a laptop).

 

I thought the GT725-075 was high res for blu-ray.
maybe I should just get a desktop, looking at gateway fx i7 or dell xps i7

 

the msi gt725-075 is 1920*1200 the 074 is 1680*1050

 

Desktop:
Gateway Model: FX6800-01e 1099.99us
Dell Model: SXPS-122B 999.99us
HP Model: m9515y 1079.99us
or
Laptop:
MSI GT725-075 for 1599.00

I am torn between which to pick.
I do not care about portability, just want best system for the money that will last a few years.

Thanks

 

what is the specs of it. just post links.

 

I really don't like the look of screens not at the native res, they look all blurry. I think I'm going to get a different laptop as I can't find the -087UK model anywhere, a Nexus from Kobalt, it's more expensive though

 

Here they are:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=abcat0501002&type=category

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=abcat0501003&type=category

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GT725-075...ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1241627456&sr=1-3

 

Then buy a desktop. Really, if you don't care about portability, there is no reason to buy a laptop. Desktops are cheaper for better performance. You have to remember that a 4850 in a desktop is clocked higher than a 4850 in a laptop as well.

 

ok, which of the desktops listed would be a good choice?
I would have to add blu-ray to two of them, not sure how hard that is.

 

Try the discussion board here instead

http://www.desktopreview.com/

As someone who has recently read through 200 pages of this thread, the last thing it needs is more off-topic discussion to water down the useful info for GT725 owners and prospective buyers.

 

get the dell i7

 

depends on the user... here are quite a few users above that mark with a dell m1730. and vantage scores of 10.5k on gpu....you only have to look...
http://service.futuremark.com/searc...0&hardwareshadows=-100&softwarefiltering=-100
is he beating some of them? yes
is he beating all of them? no.

 

Is his notebook being extremely cost effective
Yeah!

There are some really powerfull NB's showing on the market, and to be honest the prices are getting dam right awesome!

 

was never knocking the price. that was a given....

 

Definately, i wonder if MSI every have plans for hybrid/crossfired NB's

 

Why would it be easier to upgrade?
My desktop computer has an E6300, which is 1.83ghz by default, but is overclocked to 3-3.3ghz all the time. I have to say that the difference in ALL games I've played (CoH, DoW 2, Crysis, and many others) is HUGE. You'd have a hard time being competitive in an intense online game assuming it doesn't utilize all four cores (the vast majority of game do not!) and so you're stuck with 1-2 cores running at 2ghz. I'd much rather have a 2.4-2.66ghz dual core and o/c it for gaming.
(Can the Q9000 be overclocked well at all?)



Question: RK have an option to upgrade the 5100 wifi card to 5300. Would that offer any benefit for this laptop? I read that it needs to have enough antennas built in for it to make a difference, but I'm pretty clueless about this aspect of computers. Can anyone clue me in? Is it worth 45$? (I'll be using the wireless connection very often)

 

Hmmm out of the all the single threaded games i play, 2GHz is fine? never had any problems once with it, and everything is maxed out.

Q9000 can be fsb clocked to about 2.5Ghz from what i hear.

 

5300=450 mpbs
5100=300 mpbs

but.... you would need to be on a high bandwidth wireless network or N and higher to see these speeds. wireless g routers...you can stick with 5100

 

What's a standard overclock for a Q9000 that won't require liquid nitrogen cooling? (that is to say, by normal means)

How much less battery time would you get with a Q9000 as opposed to one of the dual core P CPUs? If you shut down 2 cores you get more battery and/or less heat?

 

i take it you didn't ask him yet. because he covered everything your asking..

 

Ahhhh I missed that. I'll look it up.

The silly thing is that the Q9000 model comes with BluRay and higher resolution but costs less than just the BluRay upgrade on the P8600 model.... although the P8600 costs much less than a Q9000.

 

i would have to take the quad...i do more working than gaming. and i want my computer responsive at all times. (anything having to do with more than 2 cores).
and the quad can be operated at 2.5 all day every day. that's the stock speed of the qx9300. win/win if you ask me. you might not stack up a set of high numbers in benching, but if you look at the fps with both chips...it's like a 1 to 4 frame difference. that's pretty dammn close. but when doing rendering projects or folding at home...that dual core is gonna get smoked. (personal opinion)

check the difference between the two...dual vs quad
curtesty of striker
http://www.intel.com/performance/mobile/extreme/index.htm?iid=perf_mobile+extreme

 

You knw sumthing Q9000 has least cache.

Q9000 is only $358 while P8600 is $281.


Another thing guys,
I jus tried playing GTA IV on Battery and got 5FPS- that too on reduced settings.
Has anybody had a similar experience?

 

was wondering what would be the best system to run here
i will use my laptop for graphic/web design applications and of corse for gaming

would you advise me to go for a 64 bit operating system and if yes wich one
vista home - vista ultimate - xp 64?

what advantages will this bring me?
thanks

 

Try out the new windows 7 RC. Just came out. Supposedly faster if not as fast as xp and looks like vista. Win win! And go 64 bit.

 

is windows 7 stable? will all applications run correctly?
so if i understand well windows 7 is as fast or faster than xp but better than vista.
any other reason why i should go for windows 7?

 

Can't gurarantee that everything will work flawlessly with win7 becåuse it's still new and not in retail stage yet. But from what I've read, there isn't too many problems with it. And it's free, so may as well give it a shot, and install the programs that you need to see if they work.

 

I havent had any problems with w7 64 except the fact i cannot get catalyst to work

 

Yes I did it and always it comes back the same error message.
"This Driver is not available for this version." (so similar)


Yesterday I tried to install from a friend (@ TeamViewer) the DNA 9.4 @ Windows 7. After a restart did the sys. the 4850 not properly recognize.
Has anybody the same problem with the DNA 9.4 and Win7?

 

Yes tester, i had that for 3 hours straight

If it wasn't that then i got this driver is incompatible with the operating system (altho the 64bit ini was selected.)

In the end i just reverted to using the Windows Released drivers (WDDM1?) i think or something or other, then i tried to install DNA cata onto that but no sucess yet, will keep playing around with it i think, i wonder if we can get the Windows 4850 ini? And mix that with dna.

 

tHx for your answer.
O.K., I will try to reproduce my install, because the 9.4 DNA works @ my GT725 with Win7 x64 perfectly.

be patient!

 

Hmm awesome, i did try DNA but it just kept skipping because of something.

 

Whats the reason you guys hate Vista for?

 

Ill stay on vista for now i guess. I have no problems. Maybe later!! Do i just dl windows 7? Then thats it? How boit drivers? The one came with the 725 works? Heh

 

yeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

I have it!!!!



wait a moment!

damn ATI!

Win7 and the DNA 9.4 are working def. without the ReadyDriver Plus!

edit:
O.K. guys, please be patient.
I must install Win 7 new!
...because if you did it once, it can no longer reproduce. damn!!! ;(

 

Am I right in assuming that I should have got an OEM Windows CD with this laptop? I got a sealed green Windows Package, on opening it, it turned out to be a quick start guide to windows with a piece of cardboard stuck in the middle but no CD. It has a CD Key on the back as well.

I haven't been able to connect to the internet on the laptop as I'm getting the dreaded Local Access Only errors even though all my other computers connect instantly to the same connection. Having tried everything I was going to reformat but now need a Windows CD.

I'd like to stick with Vista but may have to go back to XP pro just to get it up and running.

 

Update your intel 5100 wireless card. What kind of anti virus are you using
O

 

O.K. guys


1. install win7
2. install all online win 7 updates (without the recommend ATI update from Win)
3. reboot

the situation now:


4. install the chipset drivers and reboot

the situation now:



5. install the "Intel Storage Manager" (choose the Vista Driver 32 or 64bit)
6. reboot (maybe you must reboot again, wait at the message) and later please activate Win7 with a key

7. download the DNA 9.4 form http://www.donotargue.com/list.php?c=dnaati and unpack it!

8. download the orig. Win7 Drivers from ATI (choose there "Windows 7 32 or 64bit = Mobility Radeon = ...HD 4000 Series)
9. unpack it but do not install it!!!

10. now install manually the orig. ATI Drivers *.inf (not the DNA!)

choose this:

...and choose this:


at the end an error message will come, ignore it

11. now install manually the DNA Drivers *.inf

choose this:

...and this:


at the end will be show a successful install

12. reboot



its done!